Ted Belman
The UN Security Council is due to vote today on an Egyptian draft resolution that would demand that Israel “immediately and completely cease all settlement activities”.
As I have often stated, the Arab States, though they need Israel’s help have never altered there demand Israel’s agreement to the Arab Peace Initiative.
This Egyptian sponsored resolution is another example of how intransigent they are even though they need us desperately.
@ Ted Belman: Me too. Thanks.@ Edgar G.:
@ Ted Belman:
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@ bernard ross:
Well, I think we didn’t think it above our station to debate the F35 after it was clear nothing could be done about it for the forseeable future. Why don’t we take it upon ourselves here to debate these options? Hmmm? There’s all kind of expertise here, including military people. Let’s think about it and start speculating, shall we? The reason it’s crucial is that I suspect people are more scared than they need to be because they just haven’t thought it through. Somebody has to. Fear will lead to more sacrificing of our own to Moloch. Like Sinai. Like S. Lebanon. Like Gaza. Like Oslo. It can always get worse. We’re a long way from Masada, Dorothy.
Don’t know where else to put this but I want to introduce this article from last year I just found somewhere:
“According to Israel Hayom, Idrisi told Kanaan — whose findings were the basis for an article that appeared in Haaretz in 1970 — that the mufti “was gearing to enter Jerusalem at the head of the Muslim Arab Legion squadron he’d created for the Third Reich. The mufti’s plan was to build a huge Auschwitz-like crematorium in the Dotan Valley, near Nablus, to which Jews from Palestine, Iraq, Egypt, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, and North Africa would be imprisoned and exterminated, just like the Jews in the death camps in Europe…“It’s a historical fact that the grand mufti was an accomplice in this,” said Schwanitz, as cited by Israel Hayom. “He was the top non-European adviser to Hitler on the process of eliminating Europe’s Jews. It would be absurd to discount the mufti’s role in encouraging Hitler and other Nazi officials to carry out the final solution.””
https://www.algemeiner.com/2015/10/27/report-jerusalems-grand-mufti-planned-construction-of-crematorium-in-israel/
I remember reading somewhere that when deportations to Auschwitz were temporarily halted due to protests from the neutral countries, the Grand Mufti wrote an angry letter to Himmler, if I recall, and got them resumed. And when he gave international radio speeches — in which he urged Arabs to kill Jews wherever they found them — he cited the actual number of Jews in the world, which only somebody with top clearance to access death camp records would know. Organized the Bosnian SS which mass-murdered Jews. Systematically murdered all Arab friends of the Jews and any other opponents during 1936 and 1939. Not an isolated crank. One of Hitler’s right hand men. This is the face of Islam. This is the face of the Pals. He’s their George Washington!
It’s not just impractical to make any concessions to these racist killers. It’s morally wrong. One should only negotiate with one’s friends and rivals. One should just defeat one’s enemies. Crush them until they surrender unconditionally or will never get up again. Which ever comes first.
Sebastien Zorn Said:
as this scenario pops up every few months one would expect that the GOI and PM have already done this exercise and have numerous plans in place ready to go….. and yet I cant help wondering if there is actually no plan……. after all, there was so much whining, cajoling, kvetching, charts with red lines for a long time over the iran issue…. complete with childs drawing of spherical bomb with lit fuse…….. and when it was over nothing happened from the PM or the GOI…. apparently it was just a drama to keep folks occupied and distracted.
@ ArnoldHarris:
I agree with all of your points but the first. I remember nobody answered me when I asked the following pointed question and more than once. I believe it is central.
What is the worst that could happen, in the event that the
Security Council made some kind of devastating binding resolution, if Israel just told them, “No.” What are the pros and cons of refusing or even withdrawing from the U.N? What are some scenarios of how that might play out?
War games folks. That’s what Generals do. They don’t just go in blind. Chess. What could happen if we do this or that, and what then, 20 moves down the road. Let’s have some alternate scenarios here. That would be a constructive exercise. Maybe somebody with actual power or influence would read something and say, “hmmm.” Or maybe not. But nothing ventured, nothing gained.
And, wait a minute, wasn’t it tabled? Has it been untabled? I mentioned in an earlier post that whereas Arutz Sheva has articles nobody else will touch, like about terrorist attacks — I read a piece once by the founder that said that “she?” was riding on a bus which was attacked and nobody reported it and that’ s why he/she founded the paper — but apparently they are not always the most up-to-date in their news briefs. Jpost and Breitbart had the news of it being tabled before Arutz Sheva. According to Breitbart yesterday, Egypt withdrew its proposal less than an hour after Trump condemned it and demanded Obama veto it. I just went to Breitbart and see a new article that says that Obama worked with the pals to help craft it.
Oh, hell, I just read further down. It’s been untabled. They vote on it today at 3. That’s NY time. I’m in NY. That’s in 2 hours.
It being lunch time, here’s a funny piece about anxiety and digestion to take your mind off it.
Robert Benchley – How To Eat
https://youtu.be/2cCJPwEAaVA
Stop kvetching over meaningless anti-Israel resolutions that pop up whenever one of the Arab states gets a seat on the so-called Security Council. Some good reasons:
1) Israel, to the extent of my knowledge, has never been permitted to hold a UNO Security Council seat, despite its membership; which in itself renders membership in the UNO about as useful as Jewish citizenship in Hitler’s Third Reich even before the Holocaust.
2) All that counts for countries such as Israel is the ability to expand its borders and expel by one means or another any and all hostile anti-Jewish population elements.
3) Work at developing good longer-term relationships with the non-Islamic powers, including the USA, Russia, China, and India. All of them, some time or another, will inevitably feel the need to defend themselves first of all, from Islamic terrorism, and thereafter, from Islam in general.
2) Nationalism plainly means that you must serve the interests of your country above any other considerations.
Arnold Harris. Outspeaker
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@ Ted Belman:
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I think that I’m just a naturally born complainer. Seriously Ted I’ll email you privately, although I hope you believe me when I say I absolutely HATE to bother you with such trivialities. When I was emailing you before during the virus blitz, I felt I was aiding you from the outside by describing things as they were.
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@ Ted Belman:
I wrote the same thing… when you are told to go back everything disappears.. this is new perhaps a week. Either you are told for the capthcha and when you go back because it said you wrote it twice.
This is the only notice I have received. Always tell me by email so I can look into any problems. I don’t always see the comments.
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the sunni arabs and BB have understandings but BB should not rely on these as more than temporary…. the arabs simply wanted Israel removed as a talking point because it would interfere with the raising of the jihadis to war with the shia’s instead of the preferred war with the Jews. The minute the sunni shia war is over Netanyahu will find that all the “blossoming” relations with them will fade away. Folks who need to control their populations with draconian fatwas while they whore, gambol and drunk in London must have scapegoats on which to focus the frustrated needs of their ignorant lumpen.
All of them continue to teach their children that Jews are sons of apes and pigs…… duh!
Let the Saudis, Qatar and the Emirates fight it alone with Iran! Good riddance!
@ Bear Klein:
Well, I just learned something. Whereas Arutz Sheva will have news that Jpost won’t, Jpost might be more up to date. Jpost has the postponement but Arutz Sheva hasn’t reported it yet in its news briefs. Good to know. Yes, Trump taking a strong stand would do it. Remember what it says in the Republican platform which I emphasized many times during the campaign:
“We oppose any measures intended to
impose an agreement or to dictate borders or other
terms, and we call for the immediate termination of
all U.S. funding of any entity that attempts to do
so. ”
https://www.gop.com/the-2016-republican-party-platform/
Individually and collectively, the clowns on the Security Council. Especially Egypt which wants our help. They know Trump isn’t fooling around.
@ Bear Klein:
It has? I just read in Arutz Sheva they will vote on it at 3pm today, New York time.
arabs are takers, not givers. one more proof. did anyone in the ME ever hear of the phrase quid pro quo? apparently not. as for Israel yakking away that relations with the arabs are changing for the better, because they want israeli products re medicine, cyberwarfare, agriculture, etc.–it’s still a win/lose situation: israel enables the arabs to become healthier, stronger– but israel still gets slammed in the face at the UN and public forums as an evil, illegitimate state.
similar to the situation re Gaza: Israel sends every freaking day dozens of huge trucks full of cargo for Gazans; Hamas confiscates and controls the whole deal; Gazans become healthier and stronger; what does israel get in return? sh*t on its stupid face.
oh, i forgot– the israeli truck drivers and truck companies, the producers of all the goodies trucked to gaza, like the producers of all the medicines, etc., sold to arab countries are doubtlessly happy (they being a bloc of special interests) with this “deal”– even if it’s contrary to the NATIONAL interest.
At least for now Egypt has stopped its resolution. Maybe because Trump said this should be vetoed and Egypt wants to get along with Trump.
Maybe behind the scenes Obama’s people said they would veto it as written.
Because Bibi put pressure on them, possible but the least likely. If yes it probably would not be made public officially.