In my opinion, Beck should not be wading into Israeli politics. Its OK to support Netanyahu or to support keeping J&S but it is not OK to get into the protests. Ted Belman
Controversial American radio personality Glenn Beck has come out against Israel’s housing protest expressing his support for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
“The 200,000 people on the streets of Tel Aviv are demanding change in Tel Aviv and standing against Benjamin Netanyahu, who are these people?,” Beck wondered on his radio show last week. “They’re obviously from the hard left,” his fellow broadcaster Steve Burguiere said.
Burguiere based this claim on the protesters’ list of demands from the government, and mocked such demands as those for enshrining the right to housing in the law. “It worked out well for the Soviets,” a third broadcaster noted.
Watch Glenn Beck discuss Israel’s ‘tent protest’
When Burguiere noted the demand to “increase personal tax brackets for top earners,” Beck said: “Oh, OK, so hate the rich.”
“And you know what the thing is about Israel, there’s no land. There’s no undeveloped land there, at all,” Beck said sarcastically.
Burguiere responded with: “That would be a way to lower rents, wouldn’t it, if you increase development.” Beck retorted: “Yeah, especially in Judea and Samaria.”
Beck repeated the words Judea and Samaria several times, emphasizing the word “Jew.”
“They now call it the West Bank or something, but its real name is Judea and Samaria.”
Leftist financing?
The three proceeded to mock other demands such as mortgage relief, stopping the privatization of health facilities, raising the minimum wage and providing free education to children from the age of three months.
Referring to the Tel Aviv housing protesters, Beck said, “I’m wondering if there’s any financing behind any of that.
“Why even look, why even look to see if there is any global leftist financing involved in Tel Aviv. And you know what, do not even look to see if there is any Islamist movement that is joining them.”
Burguiere replied: “I’m sure that’s not possible, you see the Left and Islamist extremists they hate each other, they never worked together.”
I think all the above discussion in part justifies Becks presence her.
We argue over minutiae forgetting that the important thing necessary to handle the present problems is unity in action after considered discussion; this discussion should be apolitical with a practical outlook
We need the courage to act and go against world opinion – we need to root out and finish what Cast Lead did not
There is no country in this world that would tolerate what we are suffering today
Social problems will always exist and have to be broached but as Herzog [ his heart is in the social welfare of this country] will tell you there are no quick solutions – IMO BB has handled it correctly and wisely but the problem lies with our Army which is in a mess and still working acc to ‘concept’ and NOT acc to the facts and future assessments which they have had in their hands for over the last 10 years +
eg Erdogan was and probably still is a fervent Hamas supporter whilst Mayor of Istanbul
There is no point in any discussion with him
So lets cool it and let Beck have his day- he has not made aliya!
Yes, yes; I GOT that from your earlier posts.
What I’m trying to tell you, Yamit, is that this trade-off is essentially a first step in the conversion of the MedinatYisrael economy from a planned one to a market one. It would’ve been absurd to assume it could’ve been successfully transformed all at one time. There are whole entrenched bureaucracies to confront, and they’re always the same everywhere. They always have their own self-perpetuating & self-aggrandizing agendas to perpetuate, and they’re always there regardless of which govt comes today & goes tomorrrow. But let the progressive freeing of the economy become stalled, and abuses begin to appear.
What they perhaps failed to teach you is that whether the govt partners with the corporations or owns them outright, in practice the consequence is essentially the same: the ever closer binding of the people to the state. Fascism & Socialism are opposite sides of the same Statist coin. Flip it & it doesn’t matter which “side” lands facing up: the coin itself is counterfeit.
The question is, do you want to go back to the fleshpots of Mitzra’im & central planning
— or do you want to continue the journey to economic freedom?
Granted, there can be no standing still, in any event.
@ dweller:
You and Eugene are wrong see clip from about the 6 min mark to the 14 min mark. He is preaching to us and not his Christian global audience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH2mI74X0f8&feature=related
@ Bill Narvey:
Narvey you are as Lazy as you are obtuse. I said the left could never generate the numbers actively protesting and many times their number who support all or parts of what they are protesting. Learn to read. I said that many of the complaints are justified but the dispute is over solutions not defining or identifying the complaints base.
I showed you clips that with an open mind and a few Google clicks you could have found all the information needed to reach a balanced and fundamental understanding of our social problems. I gave you headlines to show numbers and some context assuming you if you were really interested were capable of doing some homework by yourself. I was mistaken
Try this mr lawyer.
Protests Force Israel to Confront Wealth Gap
Inside Story – Has the Arab Spring arrived in Israel?
Well said, Eugene.
Ted my reply to dweller #19 didn’t make it through.
@ dweller:
I’m all for real market competition but we don’t have that either. We have traded government and trade-union monopolies to Corporate monopolies.
Take cell phones we have 3 or four companies all owned by several of our 14 family oligarchs, who own all the newspaper and media conglomerates and cable companies who own the gas stations and the telephone company that used to be a state owned company. They all charge the same rates and all have similar marketing options. We have three or four main banks all owned by some of those 14 oligarchical families. Change their names to Italian sounding names and you would not be mistaken as to who and what they are. BB and Livni privatized government assets for 20 cents on the dollar and who did they sell them to? You betcha those 14 families, who stripped them and redivided them allowing some to go under after depleting their values, sent their long time workers packing and some if not most lost their pensions and benefits because the creditors came first. Mostly to the banks who are owned by the Oligarchs. If I go to an Israeli Bank I would need at least 150% collateral against even a modest loan but the wealthy get what they want unsecured and when they default as too many have the banks to compensate for their losses take it out of the little guys by piling up on the fees for everything.
These same oligarchs own the politicians as they finance their campaigns and I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes far beyond just financing campaigns. When I see politicians who aside from public service, never held a private sector job becoming multi millionaires, the question goes begging from where their millions? Government salaries of politicians are Ok by Israeli standards but multi millions?
When I went to school we were taught that the merger of state and corporate power is called fascism.
OECD report rates child poverty in Israel among highest
By RUTH EGLASH
05/03/2011 19:00 JP
Israel and Mexico have the highest rate of child poverty among the 35 member countries of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), with more than a quarter of children living in poor households, a new report released by the Paris-based organization has revealed.
According to the report, which is entitled “Doing Better for Families” and provides detailed data on families in all of the member-countries, child poverty rates in Israel are several times higher than in Denmark, which has the best record, and highlights that roughly one in five children lives below the poverty line.
The report also notes that while most countries with high levels of female employment rates tend to have low child poverty rates, Israel, Portugal and the United States are the exceptions to this rule.
over 25% of Israelis are living below the poverty line
Concentration of wealth one of the highest in the world in Israel…This is the primary cause for most of the middle class discontent
Yamit, Nuances are lost on Beck? Beck sees the world in black and white?
You are a fine one to talk. Virtually all of your opinions on various issues are devoid of nuance and your trademarked debating style is to starkly see issues in black and white. Technicolor has passed you by.
Now as to your points:
1. My question was Are the protesters justified in their protest in whole or in part? Your answer – YES For a one dimensional pundit, that yes answer says it all. For the rest of us that answer says nothing, but whose side you are on. When it comes to BB, we already know from your anti-BB harangues that you would cheer and agree with anyone who damns BB.
2. my 2nd question – What if any position should the government take in that regard? Your answer – There are many issues that must be addressed ea. one should be dealt with on it’s own merits and within the governments ability to address them seriously.
That answer is prolix compared to your 1st answer, but it offers only a generalized platitude, but nothing of informative reasoned substance in relation to the issue at hand or for that matter any specific issue.
3 My question – Were Beck’s words reasoned, fair and justified?
My goodness, you are getting wound up Yamit, you are really getting into it, not that have said anything coherent, save your dig at Beck not having a clue.
Speak for yourself Yamit. You live in Israel and it is you who does not appear to have as clue.
What’s with you anyway? You refer me to 3 videos, the first being about residents of South Tel Aviv who are concerned with illegal immigration into the country that has come to their neighborhood in particular. Other than these Israeli residents appearing frustrated and angry, there is nothing in the video to explain what has set them off and very little as to the context of their concerns.
The videographer chose an outspoken fellow who spoke of igniting a figurative war against illegal immigrants. Clearly the videographer was seeking to negatively portray this fellow as representative of everyone in South Tel Aviv having concern over illegal immigration.
The question is always, what are the facts and circumstances that led to these concerns? Are these residents rightfully justified in their frustration and anger with their own government for not halting illegal immigration or protecting their neighborhood from whatever concerns or threats to their own well being that illegal immigration poses? The video answers none of these questions in any meaningful way.
The other 3 videos of the protesters and their chants could have been of the throngs of people we have seen in Wisconsin, Greece, Britain, France, Egypt, Tunisia, etc. demanding social justice, rights, entitlements and calling for the fall of their governments.
Since these people having various issues with their governments all call for their government to fall, without other political parties stepping forward to offer these dissidents what they want in order to propel the sitting government to fall and a new government with new policies to seize power, these protesters are rightly called left wing anarchists. The demands they make are all based on left wing ideological views, that can be summed up as what they want, they expect others to pay for.
Perhaps some of their grievances have some basis in fact. One can’t get that from the screams of an angry mob calling for social justice, for affordable housing, free education, etc. etc.
Could Israel solve the housing crisis and rising costs by expanding further into J & S? That would increase the housing supply, reduce demand and thus prices.
I expect that if this mad cap mob on the streets of Israel are as left wing as they appear to be, they probably would be advocating against expansion beyond the green line. In other words, this mob wants BB’s government to simply make housing in Israel less expensive by waving some kind of Jewish magic wand.
Given that, I also expect the mob to be calling on Israel to simply make a 2 state solution peace deal with the Palestinian by offering more and if that isn’t enough then even more. These protesters however, fail to see that it takes 2 to make peace and so far, the Palestinians are not interested in peace with Israel unless it is without there being an Israel.
So Yamit, if you actually do understand what the Israeli mobs are demanding, whether they are justified in their demands, whether the government has failed to meet their demands if reasonable, etc., please go for it and let us all know your in depth analysis of the issues this angry mob is raising.
Incidentally, I listened to Beck’s radio show. I did not find anything offensive or untoward about it. What he is saying is pretty much proven in spades by the chants of the Israeli dissident mobs.
As I said Yamit, if you have all the facts at your disposal that are germane to the issues raised by these mobs, please do explain all the issues and the nuances that go along with them so we all can gain a better understanding of what is going on.
SHmuel HaLevi Said:
Killing me softly with his song…
Most of them are just the same.
We owe to many quite a bit. In particular to Mr. Beck, Dr. Vineyard and others.
Regretfully our people’s line of thinking and action have managed to allow the production and promotion by a twisted media hatcheries of a sequel of very bad leaders for many years. And not only here in Eretz Israel. We have much to do with teh advent of the fellow at the WH as well.
Today Mr. Netanyahu represents the most recent advanced model on that line of “leaders” which includes the likes of Rabin, Peres, Sharon, Burg, Olmert, Perets, etc.
How bad are we off? Imagine Peretz being one of the front runners to lead “MAPAI”… Unreal.
We as a people must say thank you to theose non Jews the at least try to cover up for us a bit.
At the same time we must promote NEW LEADEWRSHIP and that will never be allowed “from within”.
The TEA PARTY in the US should serve as a general idea to us.
We must have an “PITA BREAD PARTY” here. By any other name.
Great comments and opinions. I do not wish to direct this to anyone in particular. I am now 52 years young, at my half century mark, I decided that it was time to get out of the USA. My family and I sold everything we could to get here. So, I can talk and walk at the same time as well as my wife and kids. It has not been an easy move, but we are here happy to live in Israel as a proud Jewish Family. http://karatechamptv.com/index.asp my web page and movie to get to know me.
Now let’s get down to some business, first of all Glenn Beck has the right to freedom of speech about anything he wishes to say about Israel. he is not hurting Israel as we all have seen with the UN and some self hating Jews living in the USA and elsewhere. The Liberal mind is the biggest danger to Western society and it is now seeing their fruits of their work take place. From their involvement in some of these tent protests to code Pink that attempted to crash the Glenn Beck talk.
Anyone who is a friend of Israel is a friend of mine…let’s put it that way. I have seen and talked to IDF veterans and now have the honor of training some pre-IDF teenagers. I know what I teach them could save their life and prevent grief for their families. My whole life, I always gave my best effort and never asked for a handout. I won a University scholarship and had to have 3 part time jobs while going to University full time to make ends meet. I am no cry baby and never will be one.
The system here is Israel is not the best, bureaucratic, chaotic and selfish. However, that is coming to an
end soon,and I will wait patiently for this time to come. I will do my best to represent Israel as a fellow Hebrew and Israeli citizen proudly. Glenn Beck has put many a Jew living in the United States and other countries…not by design at all…on notice. Where is George Soros where you need him….OOOPS he is here already. Soros(Georgy Schwartz is his original name) these are the types of Jews by name only..not faith that are on notice. “Give me”, “Oh they hurt my feelings” type of guys that want revenge and “Social Justice”. A one world family singing “We are The World”. Well frankly, Libya and Egypt are prime examples of their meddling in and around Israel.
They hope to do the same to Israel,and they are beginning with some of these young spoiled minds with the tents. Of course, don’t forget about the characters in power as a Defense Minister Ehud Bark who wants a new 200,000 shekel car paid by you and me. He is here, because he dressed up like Donna International and killed a few terrorists….if it was not fabricated. Yes, there are legitimate gripes of high taxes and various types of it as well. Whose fault is that? Israeli citizens let this military establishment get out of hand; along with the handout mentality, so prevalent throughout this country go haywire.
Take these young kids that some of you are complaining about, and explain to them that money does not grow on trees. Next get some legitimate leadership to say enough corruption, monopolies and high taxes. How about a little bit more of that government land go to the free market of Israeli citizens first and then maybe foreign Jewish investors. You all seem to forget that the most expensive land in Jerusalem is owned by Arabs. If an Arab sells to a Jew in Israel…he is a “dead man walking” by his fellow Arabs..period. If a Jew sells to an Arab he brags of how much he sold it for. Well, he forgot to count the Jewish bodies that it took to get it and protect it.
Yes, since Glenn Beck is the only Jew(oooops…I mean Goy Man) that has guts to say “Stand Up For Israel & By Israel”..let him. Until people decide to lose a million dollars of their own money to do it let them. He lost about a million on this project. I know of fellow Jews who have been ripped off by Israeli’s in business scams and goys alike. Just ask Donald Trump who is suing an Israeli Company for taking his name and vodka product without his permission here in Israel.
Well once we as a Jewish people world wide become better people…I mean better Hebrews. Israel will be able to stand up on its own two feet and walk away from this mess we are all in now! Yes thank you Glenn Beck!! Remind the Jews to stand up for themselves; so someone else does not have to it for them any longer. See me speak with Dr. Modechai Kedar at The Hebrew University September 7th against this so called ‘Two State Solution”. I will not only do it once, but again and again!!B”H’
Beck came to Israel to show support and to mend fences. Good. He should stick to his purpose and not go off tangent and pontificate on the protests. It undermines his primary purpose.
Normally I’d be inclined to agree with you in such a sentiment, Ted.
But that’s based on the assumption that the international left will not try to make political hay out of it with its own intervention, and its own palaverings.
If the left stays out of Israel’s economics, then yes, the right should stay out of it as well.
But only if.
You’d rather have a higher tax on car purchases?
More govt involvement is likely to drive housing costs higher, not lower.
The Israeli economy has come a long way, Yamit, since the days — not that terribly long ago — when it was overwhelmingly the product of central planning.
It could take a couple of years to get a freakin’ TELEPHONE installed in your flat.
In your building.
And then only if you provided a bit of baksheesh to grease the palms of some govt bureaucrat, who could put your name a little higher on the list.
The cure for insufficient market competition is more of it, not less.
So how many Jews will be left that Beck supports.
I happened to catch Beck on his radio show and he was talking about those who didn’t agree with him. First, he went after Mina Fenton and and made a big deal about being a “former” council member. Then he and his co-host went after Rav Kook and mocked his name over and over again and called the right a bunch of kooks. As I’ve noted before, how many Jews will be left when he finishes castigating those Jews he disagrees with. Considering his remark “make the Jews pay for what they did” I suspect there will be few Jews left that he will support at the end of the day. I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt on this rally but after his mocking of Rav Kook I have no use for the man.
I’ve noticed he consistently brings up what Ruth said to Naomi but I wonder, does he know that Ruth was a convert and thus a Jew.
Those who want to support him can do so each and every day but I, for one, will remain suspicious of him and his motives.
Thanks for those clips Yamit. That one of the Golani singing before going into battle, makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Inspiring stuff.
Laura,
What I have in common with them is that they are Jews, misguided perhaps but Jews none the less. What I have in common with them is that they are here and share the same fate and the risks as me. When I need to depend on someone in a life and death situation or less who do I count on those in Los Angeles, NY or Paris and London; or the neighbor and the comrade in arms next to me? Most Israelis today do not necessarily belong in the ideologicl right or left camps but they have seen and felt that the left have no ans. and they will give the right a lot of slack on defense issues but less on social issues, An Israeli is considered right or left mostly based on their position relating to security and peace or war but not related to social and economic issues. Americans make that mistake. I can be a hardliner re: Peace with the Arabs but a liberal on social and economic issues here. We are still paying 250-300% tax on car purchases? A three room apt in Tel Aviv can cost up to a million dollars. The governments of Israel have ignored for decades development of the Negev and the Galilee. The Arabs have a majority in the north and will become a majority in the South unless something is done soon. The dead sea has been destroyed by greedy exploitation of government companies. Over 500,000 foreign workers are working here and another 300,000 illegals from Africa Asia and god knows where else including several hundred thousand illegal Arabs that nobody knows how many. Half the population is at or below the poverty line here. You don’t have to be a leftist communist to begin to demand that something should be done and soon.
No government preempts protests over social and domestic issues. To effect change they must be forced to react to pressure from below and in this case I see a confluence of agendas of the left and right mostly ad-hoc.
Bottom line few here are happy or satisfied with BB and his gang because they haven’t done anything positive for the country and the people. This is not a classic American left=right political protest movement. The problems are real the argument is over solutions.
Laura
See Beck’s speech on Ted’s post tonight. It was 100% directed towards or at us. Even were I in agreement in much of what he said I resent him saying it to us and especially in Israel.
Here are 3 clips why we don’t need him: Read and listen to the words, The unit involved is one of Israel’s elite combat units.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jw0Q0yeeXo&feature=related
Zochreini Na with words.wmv “Please remember me” This is what the soldiers wee singing before battle in the first clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhS3eeKzlfk&feature=related
“Fear Not, Israel”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v0ioXtXPD8&feature=related
comment to Narvey blocked.
YES!
There are many issues that must be addressed ea. one should be dealt with on it’s own merits and within the governments ability to address them seriously.
Watch video of Beck Ted posted tonight!!!
I said that the left and whoever finances and supports them may have been the original organizers but this majority are participating not for their social agenda different groups have different grievances. The left couldn’t on their own get more than 20-30, 000 demonstrators for any cause except the Rabin carnivals. Most of the half million demonstrators around the country don’t identify politically with the left.
Watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-y24SzbCY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5dsNvcNY7Q&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8u8cjS-TiM&NR=1
No!! He doesn’t have a clue. He lives in a monopolar world of black and white, has no concept of nuaances especially within anothers cultural context.
No because he didn’t identify the problems, their cause or solutions. All he did was to paint the protest with a leftist communist brush while ignoring everything else. He cherry picked statements by those who claimed to be spokesman and different spokesman said different things to different media outlets.
No it has to do with A- It’s none of his business. B- He claims to love and support all Jews yet he derides certain Jews reform rabbis, Liberal Jews, leftist Jews,socialist leaning Jews and religious Jews who don’t think or act like he thinks they should… According to his neo conservative and largely reactionary newly found Christianity.
There is a lot of Chutzpa for Beck to come to Israel and preach courage to Israelis. To preach the bible to us, and to tell Jews in their own country how he thinks they should behave. If he supports the Jews and Israel it’s clear that if he is sincere, that he only supports some Jews and only an Israel that behaves like he believes we should. That sounds to me like a very conditional support.
I agree, these protesters are trying to embarrass Israel on the world stage, make it seem like the country is a terrible and repressive place. It plays into the hands of Israel’s enemies around the globe.
Yamit, I disagree with this. You have nothing in common with left-wing, post-Zionist Israelis who hate their own country and favor surrendering territory to enemies. You always reject the genuine friendship of gentiles like Beck yet leftist Israeli Jews have been your worst enemies.
I see your point Ted, but the thing is that these protests did not necessarily originate spontaneously from the Israeli people but from foreign left-wing sources funding this.
Yamit, you are absolutely right about Israelis being the most courageous people. However I don’t think Beck is talking about restoring courage to Israelis, but is prodding Americans and westerners to have the courage to stand with Israel. At least that is how I see it.
@ yamit82:
Yamit, you’ve proven that you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to Beck. The term “Restoring Courage” is not directed at Israel or Israelis, but rather at non-Israelis around the world who sit idely by while Israel and its people are attacked and defamed by people who seek its destruction and the murder of its people. “Restoring Courage” is meant to encourage people around world to stand up and say that they recognize evil and that they will not be silent when a good and free country like Israel is being attacked, no matter how politically incorrect it is to side with Israel. I don’t think you have listened to anything Beck has said on the subject. Beck has been the most vocal supporter of Israel in the US media for years. You are right that when Israel is attacked after Beck leaves, he will be back in the US in his studio doing his radio show (where else would he be?), but he will be on the radio defending Israel and fighting the political forces on the left and anywhere else that seek Israel’s destruction. There are many battles that need to be fought, including political ones, especially in the US where the mainstream media is virulently anti-Israel (not to mention the Obama Administration). The trouble is, Yamik, your too stupid to recognize a friend when he’s right in front of you.
As for Beck’s comments on the housing protests, he is ridiculing the idea that governments should be doing everything for people that they should do for themselves. This is a bad idea everywhere, and Beck is against it everywhere. It inevitably leads to dependance on the government and a loss of individual freedom. Not to mention huge government debt that leads to the idea that it is okay to take money by force from some one who earned it legally and give it to some one who didn’t. (this is usually refered to as theft or armed robbery.) Another thing that government debt leads to is the inability of government to do the things it was meant to do, like defending the freedom and lives of its citizens, because it spent the money on welfare rather than defence, police, firefighters, etc. And of course it hurts the economy by taking too much from those who create wealth (wealth leads to more tax revenues, so you want more rich people).
Just because some one points out that a bad idea is a bad idea doesn’t mean that he is interfering in internal politics. It means he is pointing out a bad idea. And he is also pointing out that the same people are behind it who are behind it in the US and else where, which makes it even more appropriate to talk about. Further, Beck has been right about almost everything that he has said about the mid-East and he said it long before it happened. He was riddiculed for saying it and for defending Israel, but he was still right, so it might be wise eo listen to what he has to say.
Stop shooting your friends and aim at the enemy.
Ted, this protest comes from the left. Many non-Israelis with only passing knowledge of internal Israeli politics, have on Israpundit, other pro-Israel blogs and in largely the Jewish media, opined on the dangers posed to Israel internally and externally as regards Israel’s world image by the Israeli left that speaks out against Israel.
Reform non-Israeli Jews as you are aware, are particularly consumed with a number of Israeli policies that also prompt discussion on Israpundit. One of Reform’s (& Conservatives as well) has to do with the grip the Orthodox Rabbis in Israel hold over issues such as conversion which is thus both a religious and political issue.
Yes, this protest is internal and comes from the Israeli left. Their raucus protest has however, been picked up by the world’s media and they do raise questions about Israel, about Israeli government policies and Netanyahu’s governance in particular.
This protest thus has not only internal political consequences, but potential international ramifications. Those ramifications could work their way into anti-Israel political advocacy/activism.
There are really 4 issues worthy of discussion:
1. Are the protesters justified in their protest in whole or in part?
2. What if any position should the government take in that regard?
3. Were Beck’s words reasoned, fair and justified?
4. Even if the answer to question 3 is yes, should Beck have offered his view in that regard and a supplemental question, is the fact that Beck is not Jewish, factoring into thinking that his weighing into an internal political issue was not appropriate?
@ Ed Katz:
It really doesn’t.
well what I feel towards BB is not much different than what I felt for that big mouth demagogue Begin who is mostly responsible for our current situation. You should have heard what I had to say about Sharon and Olmert Peres and Rabin I helped bring down BB in 1999, it was some of most productive work in Israel. Nobody forced BB to take the job he fought long and hard to get it. BTW he is no better this time than the last a leopard does not change it’s spots. Get rid of BB and see our position improve, at least it won’t be worse.
AS FOR YOUR CHAPPED ASS? I’M NO EXPERT BUT WHY DON’T YOU DO WHAT YOU ALWAYS DO BEND OVER IN THE SHOWER.
Don’t know anything of the sort but even if true, who asked him to? Not me nor anyone I know.
Letter sent to Rabbis and a Former Missionary Reports on Beck’s Caesarea event (UPDATED) See and Read here
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Laura Pls. pay attention. Beck touted his Israel event called restoring courage. I know of no other people that are more courageous than the Israeli people. Tonight/tomorrow Beck and his followers will be gone but it’s we who will have to meet the challenges and that means for each and everyone of us literally putting the lives of every Israeli on the line. When a rocket hits Beersheba, Ashdod or Ashkellon it targets those of the left along with those of the right. When a suicide bomber blows up a bus or a cafe the left die just as the right. Those of the left serve alongside those of the right in the IDF and when we war the left falls along with the right. When those things happen your Glenn Becks will be safely ensconced in his comfortable studio or home.
Even if you are correct re” the leadership and the financing of the Israeli demonstrations you can’t really believe that they ar all even mostly leftists. They don’t have nearly that many committed followers. Many of their complaints have sound validity in an Israeli context. We are tired of being robbed and for BB selling off our national assets for peanuts to his friends around 14-20 billionaire families who based on their monopolistic enterprises stick it to those same courageous Israelis who give three years out of their lives and another 30 days for the next 20 years yet can’t afford the purchase prices of a decent home and can’t afford the high rents and the high school fees either. We see the clowns like Olmert and BB, Olmert will wind up in jail and BB might as well if the Sate Inspector General can make a good enough case against BB.
As Zev Chefets wrote Beck is using Israel as a vehicle to assume or inherit the mantle of the leader of the Christian right in America: See Here:
https://www.israpundit.org/archives/38953/comment-page-1#comment-120147
Beck as anyone can see here, is taking sides in our internal political and economic debate. In doing so he is supporting some Jews and others not. Some Israelis and others not. He is injecting his views and Americas political contexts into ours. Besides showing his true colors he is also showing his total ignorance of our history and our domestic social problems.
From here I think he is full of it and we are being used by him to advance his agenda which is not ours.
Finally we here in Israel on the right side of the political debate have more in common with other Jews on the other side of our internal political dived that all of the Glenn Becks in the world. Every Jew living in Israel is my brother and sister, we share more than what divides us.
The Glenn Becks will never be one of us and will never be accepted as one of us by most Israelis.
Dov Shurin – We Will Not Be Uprooted!!!
Yamit, not that it matters to you, but your morbid hatred of Netanyahu is chapping my ass. Israel is having enough problems without your adding to them. Glenn Beck is putting his neck and his money in jeapardy by standing with Israel. Have you ever heard anything evangelistic from him?
I welcome Beck’s message in support of J&S, against the UN and against his government, and against the HR Orgs. These are international issues.
But the protest is an internal matter. He doesn’t know Israel and is simply applying his understanding of America to Israel. I am not saying he is not right. I am saying its not for him to make such comments.
Ted/Yamit, you have both missed the obvious. Whenever an advocate, of whatever degree of notariety wades into support of Israel, they are not just making a statement of sympathy or ideological leaning and perspetive, they make a political statement. The more well known that advocate is and in this case, Beck does have political influence with his base, his views are political.
Beck’s expounding his views on the current issues raised by the leftwing protesters is as much a part of the support message for Israel as are demands by Beck for Israel’s right to exist, her security, etc. etc. as is Netanyahu’s positions regarding the demand for Israel’s right to exist, security and the need for all Israelis to come together to stand with their nation Israel against her enemies.
Surely Ted/Yamit you are not thinking that because Beck mentioned his views on the protests, that somehow that will assist the protesters and Israel’s left wing, hurt Netanyahu politically or further enrage world opinion against Israel and Israel will thus pay for it.
Thinking that, accords Beck with an exaggerated degree of influence that his detractors either credit him with or fear he may have, when in fact he doesn’t – at least not yet.
Or are you thinking that Beck might have the degree of power and influence he is accused by Beck haters of having?
Another comment got eaten up. I’m sick of my comments being lost. What can be done about this situation?
Ted and Yamit, you are both wrong. These protesters are not acting in the best interests of Israel and if their demands are met will destroy the vibrant economy which Israel has created and thus weaken Israel in the international arena. As to Beck being an outsider and therefore he should stay out of Israel’s domestic affairs, it is highly likely that these tent protesters are being financed by outsiders like Soros. Aaron Klein has investigated this. The Israeli left gets its funding from foreign sources. Yamit, you should be directing your anger at them. At least Beck wants what’s good for Israel unlike these socialist, pro-“palestinian” brats in the tents. Israel has become a world technological and economic power. Yamit do you really want to undo that?
Beck should mind his own f..king business. His statement is political and shows he only supports a certain kind of Israel and only certain Jews.