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no to nuclear Iran, no to two-state solution, no to bi-national state
Max Said:
Actually Obama publicly accepted Israels positions(recognition of jewish state, settlement freeze is not a condition, historic jewish link to Israel,etc) which signals to me that Obama and the GCC have “bigger fish to fry”: Assad, hezbullah, Iran and the restoration of Sunni arab hegemony. (enemy of my enemy?)
Max Said:
the plan is what has been unfolding as i stated months ago: the sunnis against the shias to counter Irans usurping of sunni arab hegemony.
Max Said:
Lets see if the Sunni arab mercenaries in Syria in alliance with lebanese sunnis turn to this next. Its better for Israel if others do this work. Note the sunni/allawite conflicts in Lebanon and the Mikati resignation, the Bahraini designation of Hezbollah as a terror group, and increasing Lebanese sunni and druze assertiveness.
Max Said:
so far things have proceeded well for Israel in a very chaotic time: Hamas is on a leash to egypt/Qatar; PA is relatively quiet except for symbolic protests; all of Israels enemies and detractors are weaker(Egypt with a failed state, erdogan’s caliphate dashed, Syria in chaos,EU in trouble financially and socially, ,UN just an empty noise affecting nothing, etc) Israel during this has grown stronger and improved relations and interests with Greece and Cyprus and established herself as an important regional player. Everyone else is shooting themselves in the foot while Israel is growing from strength to strength in reality while giving the others the appearances. The interests of Israel re Iran are congruent with those of the GCC arabs and this IMHO is the most influential factor at work under the table.
Max Said:
Not weird at all and everyone is writing about it. When I told you this before you said I was a crazy conspiracy theorist. Please note that the following are all fighting to topple assad: US/EU/Turkey/Sauds/Qatar/Qaeda/Salafi/MB; it is not a coincidence. As I said before the Benghazi episode was about the US involvement with Turkey/Saud/Qatar to supply arms and mercenaries to Syria while denying such involvement. The Gaza cease-fire with Qatar/Egypt/MB involvement was part of an overall plan to defang Iranian proxies(Assad,hamas, hezbullah), I beleive that Israel is in on the deal. Hamas Iranian influences were removed, Meshaal gone to Qatar and wants presidency of PLO,Hamas placed under Sunni supervision of Egypt/Qatar; Qatar requested Israel to make massive investment in Gaza(think gaza offshore gas fields). The Plan is that the US is furthering GCC interests to reestablish sunni hegemony to thwart Iran who is their biggest fear. After this I expect moves on hezbullah followed by the internal destabilization of Iran through the internal and external kurds(note this weeks kurdish/turkish truce),internal and external sunni dissidents and foreign jihadi mercanaries plus reawakening of internal secular iranian dissidents. Please note Bahrains declaration of Hezbullah as a terror organization(I expect the EU to follow suit when convenient to them(after all why de-fang Syria but not Hezbullah?)Please note at the same time the “give a dog a bone” pal faux state immediately followed by qatar/jordanian visits and talk of the revival of the 1980’s Jordan pal confederation proposal. I beleive that Saud/Qatar has put the Pals on the back burner as Iran has exploited the Israel card against their own hegemony. I do not believe that any of this has to do with the furthering of democratic principles but is purely to do with perceived interests vs Iran and restoring Sunni/GCC hegemony. All sides in Syria are against Israel and the Jews; therefore Israels interest is a weaker Syria,hezbullah and Iran. If Israel is smart they will, along with Turkey and Jordan, carve out buffer zones inside Syria to further their own interests.
In my opinion Turkeys involvement is primarily due to Obama’s desire to strengthen the Nato/EU/ muslim link through what he believes to be a moderate muslim state. I don’t believe the arabs want Turkeys involvement at all and that they see him like they see Iran, as a threat. Erdogan early on courted Iran, Syria and Iranian influenced Hamas and was also trying to dislodge arab hegemony. Erdogan wants Turkish hegemony and the restoration of the Ottoman caliphate. Erdogan has foot in mouth disease and his behavior is killing his pretentious hopes. However, he is part of Nato and the US military defense system. If he gets to re inject himself into the “peace process” this will upset the arabs and may actually, in the confusion, further stall the “progress”. 🙂
It is my view that the Syrian situation was pre-planned. recently a JAN leader said that Israeli need not fear the FSA foreign mercenaries because after Assad they will move to a different arena. These are paid foreign mercenaries, “jihadi” “useful idiots” who have been operating since at least the 1980’s when the US/Saudi/Pakistan INI used the jihadis against the soviets in afgahnistan. Ca plus change……! Let us hope that their next arena is hezbullah and Iran as opposed to Israel. Right now I believe it is Hezbullah and Iran but anything is possible.
“Decomposition!
Over the last few weeks, the momentum has clearly shifted in favor of the rebels, and barring setbacks and surprises, the liberation of the north and south will be completed by the summer. The battle for Damascus will continue to pick up steam, then, all hell will break loose along the coast and in central Syria. The fragmentation continues.”
http://www.syrianrevolutiondigest.com/
That’s a maximum time line. Routs can come at any time in any place. Assad’s Armed Forces have been sliced in half. His armour is unaccompanied by infantry and thus the tanks are known as Zippos.
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I sorry for you peeps that Obama came to assassinate Israel, And I’m sorry Bibi is a traitor. I guess all your leaders are bought and sold. I wouldn’t be too sure that the nukesubs will vindicate – some politician will betray that option.
I just don’t understand which country the traitors have picked to retire. Anyone know?
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Very weird that Obama has empowered JAN (AIQ) in Syria by refusing to arm and befriend the secular groups a totally blown opportunity. The revolutionaries feel betrayed by the West – it’s something that will affect the politics for generations. Assad will fall the JAN will be very very powerful and well armed – AQ will have their own country once again.
What is Obama’s plan or does he have a plan?
I think Obama wants to abandon the middle East as an Isolationist – probably his imperative is to be adored as a black President who was a ‘Peace President.
A peace President that left the world in pieces.
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Well see yas later . or maybe not.
Ya really should have fought to win in Gaza and Lebanon. Evolution doesn’t reward quitters.
Now the time to wipe out Hezbollah as if ya didn’t know – easy to justify with all the weapons transfers and easy to do now that they are preoccupied – they are not doing well in Syria and the revolutionaries don’t regard them as ‘prisoner-worthy’.
But I guess Bibi is too busy wiping playing kissy with Obama.
@ lily:
Osama is sipping tea in Tierra del Fuego,Agentina with Roosevelt,Stalin and Hitler!!!!!!!!!
Remember, Osama was given a respectful Muslim funeral by being supposedly dropped into the sea, we never saw the capture, the body, the funeral… And the person who helped locate him was given up and captured. I saw on the news Hillary’s face when she was looking at the video of the attack and she looked horrified. So, what really happened and where is Osama, oh yes, with Elvis sipping tea in Barbados. So, with other leaders…
@ yamit82:
I wrote you a comment about bad boys and backsides,but I think I was spamed or something, goole ” Don”t Feed Me No Line” Georgia Satellities. And a Good Passover to you. Are your sure your not a southern boy?
@ Felix Quigley:
Is there a bloody dictator in the world you don’t support?
@ yamit82:
Could have ooled me Sugar Pie,I slways know th bad boys!!!!!!!!!! Here is a song from me to you ,google,” Don”t Feed Me No Line” Greorgia Sattlies. Still a failure at linking,despite the best effort of Bernard Ross and a teenager.
Bad boys are more fun,don’t tell anyonne I said that “Sweep it under the carpet”.
dionissis mitropoulos Said:
I don’t sweep I vacuum.
Honey Bee Said:
I have no problem multitasking? 😛
Didn’t know I was in trouble, but I’m the type who thrives on trouble. 😉
My comment to Felix in moderation
Felix Quigley Said:
If I remember correctly It was Imperialistic Russia who invaded Afghanistan and got their stupid Slavic asses handed to them by a bunch of primitive tribesman.
If I correctly remember The Loss in Afghanistan so weakened the USSR that it led to the eventual release of the more than a million Jews from national imprisonment within the USSR. Most came to Israel and Israel took off as an economic powerhouse spurred not only by numbers but we inherited some to the best brains in the USSR. Laws of unintended consequences clearly at play in our favor. Now for the historical Irony. Most of the Mujahedin who beat the Russky’s were ethnic Israelite who trace their history to the Assyrian expulsion of our 10 Northern tribes.
Funny how Jews are central players in all historical events.
Milosevic and his nefarious wife were no friends of ours and in fact when they held power were open and hostile supporters of our enemies. Even if we wanted to support him there was little we could do and to go against America and Nato was certainly not in our interests, since you believe otherwise you spell it out because I don’t see it and never had although I have said that the Serbs got the short end of the stick but they themselves were as responsible as anything else. Don’t expect Israel to be more Serbian nationalistic than the Serbs themselves.
In Tunisia necessary to defend Ben Ali
You got to be kidding? We should support an enemy dictator? How would we do that? Why should we?
The Lr-d works in mysterious ways.
In order for Israel to regain our Sinai Lands again there will need to be another war that we prevail. Mubarak to my disappointment refused to go to war but he was in his last days in any event old and sick and no heir apparent because Egypt rejected his son. Tin pot dictators come and go; transitions are seldom smooth, always a conflict over succession. Mubarak was a dead dictator walking and it wasn’t Israel who dumped him it was the Americans. Did you expect Israel to go at it with the Americas over Mubarak.. How could we? and why should we have?
If you hate America so much go fight them don’t expect we Jews to do your Commie dirty work for you . Organize your factious workers of the world and do your revolutionary thing. Even in Greece and Cyprus that should be ideal fodder for your commie revolutionary mills, they are tuning right not left. You seem to be the kind that wants and needs others to do you revolting and fighting for you. I guess you hope to be there to pick up the pieces afterwards? Never works out that way. I think you commies will have to do your own fighting and dieing in the future.
No crying over spilt milk Gaddafi was decadent and stupid. History is not kind to either.
Maybe but I don’t see how after-all he never asked us for help and even if he did, not sure what we could do. Lets say the Jewish proverb is applicable: “Do not rejoice at the fall of your enemy but don’t rush to pick him up either”
Chaos, civil war and a weakened Syria can’t be much worse than what we had under the Assad’s when they had full control over Syria. If the result is that 60-70,000 Missiles with some armed with CB warheads are removed as a direct threat to us then it can’t be bad. If a war ensues against us we will handle it and maybe even become stronger by the result. My principle is never start wars but if one is imposed on us then fight to win by totally defeating the aggressor and extend our borders and national sovereignty. Our current borders are not acceptable nor sufficient for either our current and certainly future needs
@ yamit82:
Yamit 82, if you kept your mind on the female backsides instead of mililtating. you woudn’t be in so much trouble.
Felix Quigley Said:
I don’t know if Yamit militated against doing all those things, or even if some of them were the right (or the intelligent) thing to do. But i do know that Yamit doesn’t seem to be the sort of person who sweeps things under the carpet.
In Afghanistan it was necessary for Israel to defend Russia from the American propaganda and against the CIA
In Yugoslavia it was necessary to defend Milosevic
In Tunisia necessary to defend Ben Ali
In Egypt to defend Mubarak
In Libya to defend Gadhafi
In Syria it was necessary for Israel to defend Assad against US Imperialism
Israel did not do so.
You Yamit82 militated against doing all of those things here. Now start sweeping it all under the carpet.
yamit82 Said:
Whether or not the rumors are true, Assad cannot trust any one in his inner circle. In a totalitarian state, its impossible to separate fact from fiction. The only thing that is clear is that Assad may have made too many enemies to keep his grip on power. We shall see!
yamit82 Said:
Not to mention their stealthy operatives and spies from the animal kingdom.
UPDATE: Russia Today News (pro-Assad) says the rumors are not true because Assad’s inner circle told them so.
UPDATE: Here we go…..
The Jews and their robots are being blamed for the ‘disinformation.’
Zionist bedouins created an Al-Assad articulated robot, will show him dead along with Damascus streets in chaos, to bring about panic and demoralize the Syrian people and the army, to enable terrorists to take advantage of the situation. Just like they did with the fake GREEN SQUARE footage in LIBYA.
Those Jews and their evil robots are at it again.
Canadian Otter Said:
Hardly anyone!!
Chaos to follow for many years, whether the rumor is true or not, until some other strongman takes power.
BTW, did anyone ask Obama what would be happening had Israel followed his advice and surrendered Golan in exchange for a “peace agreement”?
Didn’t anyone ask Obama what good does statehood do to Muslim countries, when they are forever killing each other and threatening Israel? What makes anyone think that the State of Nazi Palestine will be any more peaceful and respectful of human rights?
If Israel had not abandoned Gaza there would be no need to beg the USA for money for the Iron Dome.
If Israel had not abandoned the Sinai, Israel would be much more more secure and the area more peaceful.
Doesn’t anyone use all this powerful evidence to counteract pressure from the Israeli left and international anti-Semites to partition tiny Israel?