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no to nuclear Iran, no to two-state solution, no to bi-national state
Trump and Biden are two separate people which states an obvious. So that gets us nowhere. Absolutely nowhere.
But Trump and Biden represent two American parties which are there in the end to promote the interest of America and it’s Imperialist RULE in the world. By any means including war.
I oppose totally those who seek to draw a distinction between Trump and Biden in regard to PRECISELY the above.
There must be no distinction drawn by Israpundit between Trump and Biden. Both these men represent the sheer evil of American Imperialism in our world.
There’s no fundamental difference. Each has superficial differences but not fundamental.
@Sebastien Zorn
Thanks.
@ al It’s nice to see youse guys keeping your conflcts civil, pardon my French.
@Raphael
Personally, I think that the US government was taken over by the big business interests (huge corporations), and that’s who the “Shadow Government” really is, not that they necessarily dictate to the government officials directly what to do but the government policies end up fulfilling the desires of these corporations.
Many people would wonder what is so bad about it – it should make the government more efficient but, in fact, it tends to ruin the country since the interests of big business are concentrated on going after short-term profits which doesn’t necessarily serve the needs of the country and its population.
@ Reader
Yes, You make a good point. Whoever the sitting president is, or whatever party is in power at the time, seems to make little difference as to the course the country takes, at least in the short term. Presidents are figure-heads, and everything that happens during their reign, especially what’s reported on the MSM, is pure theatre. As so perfectly illustrated by our current sock-puppet president, it doesn’t matter if they can do anything at all.
The real movers and shakers (the Shadow Government) are the ones calling the shots. Wouldn’t it be interesting to know who these people are and what their agenda is. Are they even Americans? Do they work in concert, or do they just work independently toward a common goal? The US foreign office, definitely has its own agenda. I wonder if any one person really knows what’s going on, or if there is a single unifying theory of how our country (really) operates. It seems that the deeper you dig, the more convoluted things become.
@Raphael
Trump and Biden are very different men but the US and its aims remain the same no matter who happens to be “on the throne” at any given time.
You don’t really believe that every US president is actually capable of radically changing the country’s foreign policy to suit his whims, do you (even an absolute monarch is not capable of something like this, and the US is a republic, not a monarchy)?
Especially considering the really low caliber of the last few presidents of the United States who could not be presumed to run a grocery store successfully on their own if they had to, much less a huge country which desires to singlehandedly rule the whole world.
@Felix
That’s a rather extreme statement, isin’t it? Biden and Trump working together to rule the world? And they’re both fascists? You may not like either man, but they couldn’t be more different. While Biden might be a fascist, Tump certainly is not. While Trump was perhaps tough with Russia, his dealings were forthright. He is a businessman, not a duplicitous politician. He said that he could ‘work with Putin’, and I believe the opposite was true. If Trump had been in office, this war would never have happened. This is Biden’s war, to be sure.
@FelixQuigley
I realize that your arguments are political and not personal, and I actually appreciate that you are very direct in stating them.
However, they are perceived as personal and insulting by some people, e.g., peloni, who then cannot let go of their own interpretations and keep talking to themselves about them while possibly distorting the meaning of the original post.
It is like that Marx brothers’ video that Sebastien Zorn posted recently where Groucho works himself up getting preinsulted before meeting the ambassador of Sylvania for “peace talks” and ends up slapping the ambassador’s face before the man gets a chance to say one word.
Marx Brothers War between Sylvania and Fredonia
https://youtu.be/m9Wh66FXZJQ
I had the same experience with a couple of my posts where the response actually distorted the meaning of what I posted.
It’s impossible to convince others of anything because they understand things differently due to the fact that their brain works differently from yours.
You can be right 100% and it wouldn’t matter.
@Michael S
For your information, the American linguists insist on exploring “politeness” which they assume is part of the linguistic rules of discourse as a very important topic in every language.
You are not aware of the rules of discourse because you live them.
The French rules of discourse are pretty much the opposite from the Anglo (American/Canadian/British) ones.
This whole fight here started by peloni is happening because someone here is not following the Anglo rules of discourse and it is perceived as an insult, and your response to my post proves it.
Reader I feel disappointed in your position. This is part of the spiel by Belman and Peloni that I attack people. You feed into that. It is a very vicious attack on my character. I do attack people on the basis of political struggle yes. But to even hint that I go about attacking people personally is just a vicious lie. Reader I reached out to you and asked you to read my piece here on this very thread. And my thoughts on the video at the top posted by Ted. The first reply to such lies by these two from a little home studio. But I also raised the totally central issue. A person like Bartlet can be a fighter against against Fascist Azov but an avid supporter of Hamas.
THEN WHAT FOLLOWED the mountains of lies and viciousness from Peloni totally unconnected with the video and my position also on the Palestinian supporting left like Bartlet – well it astounded me.
And yet you have attacked me Reader and problem is I expected better from you. I asked you to read what I wrote and his reply but you say nothing as if it was of no concern to me. And you aim to lecture me. Well I know myself very well so not needed is your lecture. So what you say is a lie as is Belman also lying when I am accused of attacking personally. Always politically, against Fascists, those supporting Fascists, Trump anti science and Imperialists. So disappointing you are to me.
@Reader
Good interview with Gagnon.
Regarding the reported captured general, his name is Roger Cloutier, and he is a thee-star general assigned to the NATO and closely associated with bio-weapons program. When Russia first made the claim of his capture, NATO responded and stated he was in Turkey and provided photographic proof of such. Revealingly, the photos appeared to be of him in photo-ops that did not lend themselves to support the serious situation that NATO in which positioned itself in this war with him appearing at cultural sites, suggesting the photos were from some time previously. Also, to support this conclusion, some of the photos were geocoded with time-stamps of the previous year. In the month following this situation first being reported, there is a growing doubt of Cloutier’s capture as some believe that he was successfully rescued during one of the multiple French helicopter rescue attempts. So, at this point it is really anyone’s guess.
There was also some suspicion that there might be a biolab in the 6+ subterranean floors of the bunker at Avastahl plant which was built to house 40K people. It will be interesting to see if this is true. The speculation arises from the significant number of outbreaks originating from this area in recent years.
Hi, Peloni. You told Reader,
Thank you for rescuing American dignity from Reader’s rampage. Imagine, Americans being accused of being too polite! One wonders where the world is heading! 🙂
A very interesting interview about the war in Ukraine:
@FelixQuigley
It seems to me that peloni is getting hung up on what he perceives as insults or criticisms.
Maybe peloni might try to be less sensitive and you might try to be less critical of those who post here otherwise all you’ll get in response is resistance to your ideas which are actually good.
@Reader
A cultural thing, eh? Seriously? To associate the lack of support of Russia and specifically Putin with being evidence of fascism is simply beyond any logical association in any land where common sense is valued. Is that a Russian thing? Or a French thing? Chinese maybe? No, it is not a cultural thing. It is just a silly association between two unrelated things – a lack of support of Putin on one hand and the proof of fascism on the other – which have no relationship whatsoever. Silly, cynical and illogical. It isn’t about being polite, it is about making dishonest associations with a vile ideology that I would expect we could all agree has no relationship to your love or hatred of good old Putin.
Reader I agree with you but it’s too far from the point here. Read what this person did to this comment of mine. Just please read it. This comment of mine is so important.
“About two weeks ago I wrote on Israpundit about the close similarity between Hamas and Azov and how a main tactic of BOTH was to embed themselves in schools, hospitals and among civilians. Not one person on Site took it up. But it has a great importance.”
My comment there is so important and at the same time pretty inoffensive to anybody
And just look at the barrage of insults the guy replied with. All of which seems to be working whether he means to or not to get away from this FOR ME key issue of the really identical politics of Azov and Hamas
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“Not one person on Site took it up.
With all do respect and not meaning to be overly harsh with you, you insult everyone who does not agree with you in every particular by suggesting they are Fascists. You also use the same overly broad brush to paint Trump and the Hand Sock Biden as being of a similar motive and mind set, which is ridiculously impossible to support. Hence, as you scorn dissent, you would still expect these ‘fascists’ to interact with your commentary? Regardless of the content of your remarks, your tone is toxic, unpleasant, overly harsh and overtly imbalanced. I have tried to explain this to you, but you seem to be impervious to any input, so as you try to silence people, they will ignore you, if for no other reason than to avoid your petty tactics which are remarkably routine, and that is unfortunate, IMHO.”
You tell me Reader what was that reply all about!!!
Peloni
You start your latest with a dirty insult
“I bear Felix no animosity beyond the repeated insults that he casts about quite readily, though I do not believe it is beyond my place to note the unpleasant character of these statements. ”
Unpleasant indeed. But in general to answer wastes much time.
You have actually worked here and it is undeniable to obscure the ENORMOUSLY IMPORTANT messages in this video from this San Francisco couple who are obviously working in a home studio against all the billionaire Media
To such an extent I wondered if you watched the video even past the first few minutes.
I am never disheartened. I simply turn my attention to my own Twitter @FelixQuigley
I am giving maximum exposure to this couple from San Francisco
To illustrate my posts I have discovered unique pictures taken when the Russian Army liberated Auschwitz in 1945. The pictures tell a story hidden by the Media.
The other thing in this video I am exploring is on the one hand the good reporting done in Donbass by a certain reporter Eva K Bartlet and here is the problem her Antisemitism re Gaza, Hamas and the IDF and her coverage of the war against Hamas in Gaza. So the universal problem is also there in this very video – the extreme Antisemitism re Israel in the Left which Bartlet for me is represented.
Note how Peloni handles this!!!
I have also charged that there are people on Israpundit who support Fascism. What’s the big deal? They do.
I oppose Trump and see Trump as the other side to Biden Imperialism. Also Peloni what’s the big deal? You don’t agree well too bad.
I also oppose Trump on his Anti Science. That totally remains. That’s my number one objection to Trump.
This in Ukraine is not a civil war. It is a proxy war by the United States of America to destroy Russia and China with existentialist dangers.
This is not a personal issue for me in any way. It is a political struggle against a person with Trumpian Republican Imperialist views.
But who controls now pretty much the discourse even by sheer quantity on the site of Israpundit.
My time is being wasted. Note Peloni has effectively blocked the very content of this memorable video. Or do not note it. Your prerogative,! C’est la vie! But perhaps one or two may really internalise as I have done it’s very important lessons.
@peloni
Maybe it is a cultural thing?
Americans tend to be very touchy about “politeness” while other peoples can engage in a lot of “straight talk” (aside from plain swear words) without taking it personally.
@Raphael
@Felix
I sincerely agree.
I bear Felix no animosity beyond the repeated insults that he casts about quite readily, though I do not believe it is beyond my place to note the unpleasant character of these statements. As he found my comment to be abusive, while it described his own comments as being being abusive to others, I was happy to offer my honest apology and I was sincere in the statement, for it is not my intent to emulate any abuse towards him or any other of our company. I have enjoyed and gained from the shared commentary of all contributors on this site over the years, and that would very much include the input offered by Felix. But I will continue to object to what I find objectionable, such as describing anyone who does not stand with Russia on all matters as being a Fascist, for it is demonstrably a lie, a libel and terribly unfair, all of which I believe is not demonstrating any animus for Felix, himself, but for the untruths he is championing as being truthful, while they are not.
@Felix and @Peloni, I don’t understand this acrimony. We can certainly disagree, agreeably, can’t we? Or, if not, then let’s just grow thicker skins. FWIW, I find that both of you have interesting things to say, (whether I agree or not).
@Felix
If you find my comments condescending, accept my apology and ignore it as you have surely have already done so. That was not my intent, but have a nice evening as well, in any event.
Peloni
I consider your post totally condescending but you must understand it does not matter.
The reason I give you a very wide birth is you take something and blow it up amazingly. I just said people didn’t take it up and please hunt for it yourself – or don’t!!! Also your way of taking a phrase out of context. Not good Peloni. So have a nice evening.
I am far too busy to worry myself too much over all of this. So please keep your condescending remarks for some other. No real need to reply.
@Felix
This is a civil war. Many people who would be most supportive of the Russians fled to Russia many years ago, but many of those who remained will celebrate the long hoped for arrival of the Russians, just as many others will protest the same events which they long dreaded might come to fruition. This later group are likely to be among the millions of hapless souls left to flee what they perceive as the coming onslaught of Russia’s emancipation of these lands, long held by the Azov and other Ukrainian forces. As they flee they will carry their stories of ruin and hardship, just as they participated or ignored the hardship that was visited by the Ukrainian nationalists over the past 8yrs upon the people of the Dombas.
So there are two groups of people, two stories to tell, two perspectives and two national models that brought this contest into existence. As I have noted, it is a Civil War, which only means that there is nothing civil involved in the approach or execution of the war by either side. It is brutal, personal and purposefully penalizing. Russia has honestly been quite restrained thus far, as compared to the force and devastation that they have the ability to bring to bear, but that might change if they are drawn into a greater war, which is much more likely given that they have no good faith partner with whom to negotiate – ie, it was a most regretful move that Zelensky made in betraying the agreements made in Istanbul.
@Felix
With all do respect and not meaning to be overly harsh with you, you insult everyone who does not agree with you in every particular by suggesting they are Fascists. You also use the same overly broad brush to paint Trump and the Hand Sock Biden as being of a similar motive and mind set, which is ridiculously impossible to support. Hence, as you scorn dissent, you would still expect these ‘fascists’ to interact with your commentary? Regardless of the content of your remarks, your tone is toxic, unpleasant, overly harsh and overtly imbalanced. I have tried to explain this to you, but you seem to be impervious to any input, so as you try to silence people, they will ignore you, if for no other reason than to avoid your petty tactics which are remarkably routine, and that is unfortunate, IMHO.
However, given you may have a point of substance to share in this analysis, and though I read all comments on Israpundit, I don’t recall the comment you are referring to. Can you either direct me to your previous comment or re-post it. No guarantee that I will respond, but if I find it relevant, I would be certainly interested in gaining from your insights, despite these criticisms I have shared with you.
https://youtu.be/UppxrKiNkzg
Natali and Clayton Morris. This video is worth watching. It is worth it even to see the people welcoming and even blessing the Russian soldiers. To do that when Azov was in control would be immediate execution for sure. As the German Nazis did in 1941. I continually point out that Donbas and Crimea are now in the nation of Russia. Nation is an important thing
About two weeks ago I wrote on Israpundit about the close similarity between Hamas and Azov and how a main tactic of BOTH was to embed themselves in schools, hospitals and among civilians. Not one person on Site took it up. But it has a great importance.
There was a line at the beginning left out. This is it again.
The war by the United States of America by Biden and Trump is to create their Fascist control over all of earth. In the immediate it is against the nation of Russia
The nation now includes Crimea and Donbass
In another real dimension is physical protection against Fascist Ozav.
Felix, Darlin, what are you smoking?
America by Biden and Trump is to create their Fascist control over all of earth. In the immediate it is against the nation of Russia
The nation now includes Crimea and Donbass
In another real dimension is physical protection against Fascist Azov.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FelixQuigley/status/1520667519660531712