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no to nuclear Iran, no to two-state solution, no to bi-national state
no to nuclear Iran, no to two-state solution, no to bi-national state
@ neurodoc:
Who is more antisemitic? Trump whose daughter is Jewish or the Flaming Liberal Left who hate G_d, deny our History, hate everything and anything associated with the Jewish people and do their best to destroy our only Jewish State. Need examples? Get a life!
@Austin
I know the history. If I had a nickel for all the church services I’ve played, I’d be a wealthy man. Never seen that before or since. Eliminationist anti-semites do not have the right to self-determination. Or anything else, in my book.
@ Sebastien Zorn:
Sebastien, yes the Queen has no political role in government, but she has a great deal of influence which is used quietly, and very little occurs there that does not have the approval or at least the acquiescence of the Queen. The Crown has always worked that way since they became a Constitutional Monarchy -I think after James the Second was chased out of the country.
As for surprise about the Jew with horns… I’ve mentioned it a couple of times on this site, it’s the definitive Book on how Anti-Semitism progressed.
It’s called “The Devil And The Jews; The Medieval Conception Of The Jew And Its Relation To Modern Anti-Semitism”. Read it, you’ll be glad you did. I suppose you know that all the gargoyles on the tops of cathedrals and large old buildings represent Jews, generally with horns, hooves and tails…… The book tells you all about it. You can look it up under “The Devil And The Jews”.
If you’d already read it then you shouldn’t have been surprised.
@ bernard ross:
@ Ted Belman:
Second Addendum:
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Also, recall I said to one of the other players who was Jewish, “it’s times like this, I’m filled with a deep sense of gratitude I don’t speak a word of Ukrainian.”
Which inspired the following humorous observation:
The world (the “nations”) mocks us Americans as fools, or thinks us arrogant because most of us can only speak English. People come here from little countries, even Russian, African and Asian countries with really different languages, both written and spoken, speaking 5, 6 languages, and that’s the best we can do.
This is obviously because they start learning other languages when they are 5, particularly English, which has become the world’s lingua franca — so some of it with us is just laziness — whereas we don’t learn our first second language until high school or close to it which is too late start learning to think in other languages and memorizing vocabulary. (I had trouble memorizing the multiplication table in third grade, but I’m glad I finally mastered it or I couldn’t write comments on this site.
So, you see it was all worth it, the best possible outcome in this best of all possible worlds, thank you, Dr. Pangloss (based on the real Leibniz, thus inspiring the novel “Candide” by the otherwise anti-semitic schmuck, though that’s not relevant here, Voltaire and therefore giving us the musical, “Candide” by the great great Jewish-American Composer (one of America’s greatest) Leonard Bernstein – truly one of our national treasures – both nations.)
But, you know, if you think about it, maybe our greatest weakness is our greatest strength, after all. We’re a big-hearted people. All of our ATMs are in 16 languages, we not only don’t deport most of the people who sneak in, we pin medals on ’em – unlike the Ukraine, say, where this whole mess started because Obama and the EU engineered a coup to oust the Ukraine’s elected pro-Russian President and installed a Ukrainian nationalist who announced to the 60 percent Russian speaking majority of the Crimea that from now on all business must be conducted in Ukrainian — truly a case of art imitating life:
in “Bananas” by Woody Allen from the early ’70s, the President of a newly victorious revolution in a spanish speaking country in the Carribean announces that from now on the national language is “Swedish.” — we liberate other countries on request, running away with our tails between our legs when we get critized for it, and we go into debt to our enemies rather than make them pay for it! All the while, beating ourselves up for the next 20 years for being such a bad, bad, bad people.
But, you know, I think, if we understood even a fraction of what other people were saying about us in their own languages, I think we’d be in a really bad mood.
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That being said, like most other things that happen, it was all for the best because it fulfilled the requirements of God’s grand plan which is to provide me with comedy material.
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A side-note, if you don’t get my sense of humor, “Culture” being an absolute defense these days, “But glorifying terrorism is part of our culture” – Abbas, and similar crap from Black Lives Matters sympathizers, — my sense of humor is in some ways, distinctively, Hungarian, or maybe Hungarian Jewish, or maybe Hungarian Jewish from between the World Wars when most of the grownups I grew up around were socialized – (and let me tell you Ephraim Kishon was our national hero, or the equivalent). And surrealistic solipsistic humor is a central component.
For example, there is a story about Ference Molnar, Hungary’s greatest playwright – he lived here for a time, many of his plays were produced on Broadway in the 20s and famous movies and musicals were adaptations of his work – (i find myself quoting this a lot:) He customarily wrote in cafes until 4am and then woke up in the afternoon. He got Jury Duty, in NY. Somebody dragged him out of bed and into a cab at 8 am and he saw all the people thronging the streets at rush hour and said, “Does everybody have jury duty, this morning?”
Yogi Berra is, in a way, America’s answer to Ference Molnar. He said, “Oh, nobody eats there anymore. It’s always crowded!”
@ bernard ross:
@ Ted Belman:
Addendum: Good article about important book:
The ‘New Anti-Semitism’ Comes of Age – And How to Deal With It
Acclaimed author Phyllis Chesler charts the rise of a new kind of Jew-hatred, and explains why her book is more important now
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/188231
The New Anti-Semitism: The Current Crisis and What We Must Do About It
https://www.amazon.com/New-Anti-Semitism-Current-Crisis-About/dp/0787978035
@ Ted Belman:
@ bernard ross:
Well, I found this video:
From the Alex Jones channel entitled, “Alex Jones Puts Anti-Semitic Caller in His Place!!”
https://youtu.be/W-4C7myX0vg
OK. Alex Jones is a proponent of the new anti-semtism but not the old. In this video, he angrily says to a Nazi, “if you want to kill all the Jews, you have to go through me.”
But, he spreads blood libels against Israel.
He also claims the Queen of England is a corrupt despot who shut down the Canadian Parliament. The Queen of England has no actual political power. It’s just symbolism.
“TORONTO — The Canadian prime minister dissolved Parliament on Sunday and called for an early election next month in hopes of strengthening his Conservative minority government’s hold on power…On Sunday, Harper visited Governor General Michaelle Jean and asked her to dissolve Parliament. The governor general is the representative of Queen Elizabeth II of Britain, who is Canada’s head of state, but the position is purely ceremonial and obeys the wishes of the prime minister.
“Between now and Oct. 14, Canadians will choose a government to look out for their interests at a time of global economic trouble,” Harper said after the meeting.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/world/americas/07iht-08canadaFW.15951020.html
I don’t have any problem trusting the New York Times on a non-controversial topic like this. And of course he thinks it, like everything else, is a globalist conspiracy. When he starts accusing Israel of globalist conspiracies, corruption, manipulation, racism, etc., he is spouting the modern version of the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, Ford and Hitler, all of which spread blood libels about a malevolent international Jewish conspiracy to take over the world.
He is promoting the current anti-semitism, even if he explicitly denounces the original and already discredited one when the caller, who is a real Nazi, I mean a real Nazi, praises it, along with Henry Ford and Hitler.
So, you know, there’s degrees of anti-semitism. Most of the anti-semites I have met have Jewish friends, spouses, girl-friends, boyfriends, co-workers, teachers, relatives that they like.
He’s an anti-semite. And a loon. But, he could be worse. However, I wouldn’t trust anything he says without independent verification.
Also, let’s bear in mind, most Americans are not anti-semitic, though that could change if they keep letting Muslims in. Israel’s strongest support in America comes from Evangelical Christians not Jews, many of whom march in lock-step as Progressives first, fitting the adage — where Israel is concerned –, “with friends like this…” He wants influence. He would be a fool to admit to anti-semitism in the U.S. if he wishes to influence more than a fringe. It helps him that anti-semitic web-sites label him, get this, “a Zionist Shill”.
Here he debates David Duke:
David Duke Debates Alex Jones (8-18-15)
https://youtu.be/VuXNMkBJbNg
I just starting listening to it. Duke is way more anti-semitic than racist. No wonder he was able to praise Obama a while back.
I agreed with much of what Bernard said but the Ukrainian “identification with Jewish Communists with all Communists” is bogus. These same Ukrainian nationalists murdered defenseless Jews during the Civil War 1918-21, and the Ukrainian Cossaks massacred Jews during the Chielminiki massacres.
In the 1980’s, I worked in a xerox shop that had among its regular customers, elderly Ukrainians bringing in Holocaust denying propaganda to save John Demjanjuk, the concentration camp guard who eventually lost his U.S. citizenship and was deported to be tried. Today, they’re renaming streets after the mass-murderers of Jews!
I played a gig in a Ukrainian church –HERE – where they had a children’s christmas play in which a medieval soldier confronted a Jew with, I kid you not, HORNS. I said to one of the other players, who was also Jewish: “It’s times like this I’m filled with deep gratitude that I don’t speak a word of Ukrainian.”
Screw the Ukrainians. I hope Russia reconquers them and steps all over them!
What do you think?
Ted Belman Said:
I agree, and in fact I am also deeply disturbed that so many Jews are involved with activities which can be seen to be dangerous to their hosts nations… for quite a while I have been concerned that those Jews are inciting to anti semitism by identifying overtly with enemies as opposed to their host nation citizenry. At the same time they are repudiating those like Trump who identify with the safety and welfare of the nations citizenry. I consider this to be existentially dangerous and as Yamit82 once said that “they are painting a target on every Jews back”. If I was not a jew I would be seeing this phenomenon and wondering if it was something “Jewish”. It is foolish for Jews to ignore this as perceptions of Jews collectively have proven to be dangerous in the past.
Ted Belman Said:
IN my view, Jews supporting Hillary and the dems are delusional lunatics in denial. The leftists, muslims and blacks who are increasingly the base of the dem party have been ratcheting up their anti semitism in the USA for the past 8 years. I have never since the 1950’s seen this level of anti semitism in the USA and ALL of it comes from those who support the dem party, I have no fear of the neo nazis or the KKK… but these others I fear are a huge existential danger to the Jews. This is why I always advise an anti muslim position and celebrate the muslim euro invasion and the arab spring… I beleive it is a good thing when the anti semites are fighting and killing each other and have less time to kill jews.
Ted Belman Said:
I did also, and I watched the video of Jones at the bottom. I did not feel that his recognition of Jews like the Immanuels, Soros, etc was anti semitic… there do appear to be leftist jews supporting these dangerous elements which are a serious danger to the USA…. a jew being engaged in such behavior invites the most serious threats. I am wondering what kind of Jews are doing this and they appear to be leftists, socialists and communists. this is what happened in some areas of eastern europe like Ukraine… the Ukrainians identified the soviet Jews who came in and killed them with all jews and considered that the germans rescued them from the soviets. The jewish bolsheviks identification with communism in my view heoped create the shoah…. the capitalist funders of hitler probably decided that the only way to stop the threat to themselves was to stop the idea from entering western europe AND that idea was seen to be spread by Jews, kill the jews and you kill the virus(idea). American Jews are probably ignorant of all this and blind to the threats but those like Soros know it all full well and appear to be inciting a holocaust intentionally. Why does Soros hate the Jews and why is he allowed to live in a time when Jews have the ability to destroy him?
Ted Belman Said:
I agree.. there has already in the past been a real jewish criminal “mafia” with meyer at its head.
Ted Belman Said:
I stopped even listening to the dem arguments when they were proven to be transparent abject liars when they tried to label Trump as an anti semite and then I saw that everyone around him were orthodox jews… and not the satmar true teitelbaums or the NK Jews…. who are supporting hillary becuase she will destroy Israel and give them more welfare.
Its important for Jews to be aware of how they are collectively perceived so they dont again delude themselves about danger.
I read the vox article which quoted from from Media Matters and Southern Poverty Law Center. Enough said.
As for the reference to the Jewish mafia, I listened to one radio show of Jones in which he said there was a Italian mafia, a Jewish mafia, a Russian mafia plus others. I don’t see this as antisemitic.
They attack both Trump and InfoWars because they support each other. In fact the left attacks all of us Trump supporters as undesirable.
Lev Said:
As I said I don’t post “crap”. I post opinions and facts that the MSM covers up. There is a great deal of facts coming our on Hillary which I and many others post. On the contrary, there is a great deal to post.
My position is two fold. I love Trump’s platform compared to Hillary’s and I hate Hillary’s track record of lies and corruption and incompetence.
@ neurodoc:
Jews promoting Muslim immigration when 80% of them are antisemitic, is really sick to me.
As for InfoWars, I paid them no attention until this fall. I like their message and their support of trump. I have listened to them a lot.
I also listened to Jones’ radio show when an antisemite tried to attack Jews with reference to the Elders of Zion. Jones tore him apart for his views. Jones is against globalization. I think he attribute this in part to Jewish influence. I don’t share his views on this at all but do support Trump and his platform .
Neurodoc
You might noticed that Ted Belman goobles up whatever crap comes out against the Clintons mafia, nowadays.
Question: is there any rightful, decent, truthful, clean, attitude coming out of the Democrat’s side, dominated by the Clintons crap? No! there is nothing!
So, Ted Belman is airing crap because there is nothing else to aire in this campaign, if you believe in Trump’s position.
@ bernard ross:
Forget the name but he used to quote another neo-Nazi site full of anti Jewish conspiracy theories as truth???
@ bernard ross:
It’s obvious that neurodoc is a member of shoot the messenger clan. Always easier to do that then to delve into the facts for the truth.Right now Hillary and her gang are trying to shoot the messenger.The messenger is Trump and the message is that the American people are sick and tired of the corrupt establishment on both sides of the aisle and all their various cronies and fellow thieves.
@ neurodoc:
so much time spent on discrediting sources but no time spent on any actual subject matter posted… I noticed this about you before…. is it a technique you learned…. somewhere?
Are you asserting that clinton and clinton DID NOT travel with the convicted pedophile Epstein numerous times to his pedophile sex island
neurodoc Said:
and yet you cite vox.com
😛 😛 😛
time to give up your day job
@ neurodoc:
Maybe he didn’t notice. It’s not non-stop anti-semitism. I still haven’t heard Alex Jones’ anti-semitism. There’s a lot to wade through, it’s repetitive with lots of over-the-top hyperbole, and I’ve only heard some of it. Plus, it’s possible to be an anti-semite and have valuable things to say. Anne Coulter later revealed herself to be an anti-semitic loon in another context, but the book she wrote “Mugged, Racial Demogogery from the ’70s to Obama” – which I read quite a bit of before I put it down had a lot of interesting insights and led me to look at other books in the bibliography. I wouldn’t throw out the baby with the bathwater. The question is: Does the author honestly differentiate between opinion and statement of fact?
Granted, historians can and do legitimately support conflicting arguments by emphasizing different sets of facts or framing them in a different way. But, when the line between news and opinion becomes blurred, it’s just propaganda, entertainment, or both. It’s about “explanatory power” as me sainted History Profs used wisely to say.
Amazing (or maybe not so amazing) that Ted Belman gobbles up whatever crap, no matter how suspect or clearly bogus, that the unabashedly anti-Semitic Alex Jones puts out. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/26/13418304/alex-jones-jewish-mafia Trump and Jones admire each other, so Belman just folds in. Jews promoting anti-Semites, that’s really sick and/or crazy.
Frightening but true. Wake up America.