This past July, unknown assailants threw a firebomb into the home of the Dawabsha family in Duma. The mother, Reham, and the father, Saad, along with their 18-month-old baby Ali were killed. Four-year-old Ahmed was critically injured.
Authorities immediately alleged that the assailants were members of a Jewish terrorist organization.
The accusations were widely disregarded by members of the national-religious camp, and by the Right, more generally. But following news that Jewish suspects were arrested for the crime earlier this month, those early allegations ring truer than before.
The Right had good reason to raise an eyebrow at the allegations. The IDF, the Shin Bet and state prosecutors have a long history of open discrimination against the Right.
In 2001, 14 years before the Dawabshas were murdered, then-attorney-general Elyakim Rubinstein retracted five-year-old indictments against members of Eyal.
Eyal was a phony terrorist group put together in 1994 by a Shin Bet agent provocateur named Avishai Raviv. Its purpose was to demonize the national-religious community. As the most outspoken critics of the Oslo peace process with the PLO, the national-religious community was targeted for demonization.
Raviv and his colleagues had for years sought to entice members of the community to carry out acts of politically motivated violence. And when all else failed, he formed a fake terrorist group and invited reporters to film its fake swearing-in ceremony.
The Shin Bet’s history, along with IDF Central Command’s longstanding policy of portraying alleged Israeli vandalism of Palestinian property as the moral equivalent of Palestinian terrorism against Israelis, has led many law-abiding citizens on the Right to take allegations regarding Jewish terrorist cells with a grain of salt.
But this week we learned that this time the allegations may well be true. Just as bad, this week we discovered that not only do Jewish terrorists exist, they have supporters.
Wednesday night Channel 10 broadcast a video of young people dancing at a recent wedding in Jerusalem. The wedding was of friends of the men recently arrested on suspicion of involvement in the murder of the Dawabsha family. Rather than dance around the bride and the bridegroom, as is the custom at Jewish weddings, wedding guests held up rifles, guns, Molotov cocktails and knives and danced around a photo of baby Ali Dawabsha.
The message was clear. The guests at the wedding weren’t waiting for indictments or a court verdict.
They were sure their friends murdered the Dawabshas – including their baby – and they supported the murder.
Here is the place to note that the suspects are innocent until proven guilty. The film is not evidence of guilt.
But the video does show that Jewish terrorists have supporters and those supporters believe that child killers are heroes.
How are we to relate to this state of affairs? How are we to respond to the increasingly sure knowledge that there are Jewish terrorists and that those terrorists have supporters? Among those supporters are hundreds of people who have tried to shift the discussion from the act of terrorist murder the suspects are alleged to have committed to a discussion of allegations made by their attorneys, that since their arrest the alleged Jewish terrorists have been tortured by their investigators.
How are we supposed to react to those who rush to every open microphone and accuse the state of torturing the terrorist suspects, rather than consider, for a moment, what these men are suspected of having done? How are we to react to people who, even in the presence of evidence insist that the state is completely evil and the suspected terrorists are simply victims of discrimination? Those who blithely accuse counterterrorism investigators of torturing terrorist suspects while ignoring evidence and the nature of the crime itself, are terrorism apologists. In behaving as they do, they serve as the moral equivalent of anti-Zionist leftists from Breaking the Silence and its sister groups who libel Israel internationally.
Both groups of terrorism apologists use anti-Jewish rhetoric to harm the Jewish state. Both groups libel Israel with false allegations of torture that neither would dare to raise against any other country.
There are of course difference between the two groups.
Breaking the Silence and sister groups like B’Tselem are funded by foreign governments.
They disseminate their blood libels against Israel to foreign audiences. Their goal is to transform the anti-Semitic mood in foreign lands into anti-Semitic policies by foreign governments.
The ultimate goal of such groups is the destruction of Israel. They seek Israel’s destruction because they believe that Israel is illegitimate and should be replaced by a non-Jewish state of one sort or another.
Unlike their leftist counterparts, terrorist apologists on the Right do not receive foreign funding.
They do not direct their actions to international audiences.
They don’t seek the adulation of the likes of Roger Waters or John Kerry. They don’t encourage Europe to wage economic warfare against Israel or the US to abandon Israel at the UN. They don’t legitimize Arab terrorism.
Their target audience is the Israeli public. They wish to convince the public to accept the legitimacy of the Jewish terrorists by painting them as victims.
But these terrorists are not victims. In their manifesto, the terrorists make clear that they wish to bring about the destruction of Israel. They view terrorism as a means to achieve that aim. One of the consequences of terrorism is that it weakens Israel’s international standing. And in their manifesto, the terrorists say that they seek to use Israel’s “weak points,” including its diplomatic weakness in order to destroy it.
By falsely accusing the state of committing torture, right-wing terrorism apologists are advancing the cause of the terrorists just as surely as Breaking the Silence members advance the cause of Palestinian terrorists when they disseminate their blood libels about IDF “war crimes” to European and US audiences.
Given the similarity of their actions and goals, it should be clear that terrorism apologists on both sides of the spectrum must be shunned.
This brings us to the nature of the terrorism that these apologists justify.
Are Jewish terrorists who seek Israel’s destruction different from Muslim terrorists who seek Israel’s destruction? In two key ways they do differ. First there are the numbers. Whereas there may be a few hundred Israelis who have joined terrorist cells, tens of thousands of Palestinians are members of terrorist groups in Judea and Samaria alone. Gaza of course, is governed by a terrorist group.
Second, there are their support bases.
Jewish terrorists are condemned and rejected by every major and minor political force in Israel.
Although their support base may have grown in recent years, it still numbers no more than a few thousand people on the fringes of society.
In stark contrast, the Palestinian Authority and all private and public Palestinian institutions of note lionize Palestinian terrorists. Jailed terrorists and their families receive generous governmental compensation. The general public views them as national heroes and children are taught from preschool on to follow in their footsteps and kill Jews in order to destroy Israel.
Wednesday, as Israel’s entire rabbinical and political leadership stood as one and condemned the wedding guests who glorified Jewish terrorists on the video, Fatah – the terrorist group and political party led by PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas – published a post on its Facebook page praising the terrorist murderers who the same day killed two Israelis and critically wounded a third outside the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem.
For counterterror and law enforcement bodies, fighting Jewish terrorism poses the same challenges as fighting Islamic terrorism. In both cases, the central challenge is to target and arrest terrorists and infiltrate their networks while continuing to respect the civil rights of the surrounding population.
In both cases, when investigators are contending with active terrorist networks, they are sometimes compelled to use unpleasant interrogation techniques.
As numerous courts, ministerial oversight committees and the Knesset have determined, these techniques are not torture. They are legitimate interrogation methods and they are used sparingly and only when they are required to protect the public from terrorists who target the innocent.
This brings us back to the wedding video and the difficulty we experience in accepting that Jewish terrorism exists, support for Jewish terrorism exists, and both need to be dealt with.
There can be little doubt that Jewish terrorism would be far easier to fight today if the Shin Bet and the state prosecutors had not made malicious use of agent provocateurs to demonize the national religious camp in the 1990s. So too, if IDF commanders and the civil administration were less quick to support anti-Israel European-funded NGOs against Jewish communal interests in Judea and Samaria today, community members would have less trouble believing the worst about Jewish extremists at the fringes of society. Indeed it would be far more difficult for overzealous defense attorneys to convince anyone that suspected terrorists have undergone torture.
But while the public has legitimate grounds for suspicion, it is no longer possible to dismiss the allegations of Jewish terrorism. There are members of the nationalist camp that wish to destroy Israel.
They are willing to commit terrorist attacks against Arabs as well as Jews to achieve their goals.
As a consequence, just as the vast majority of the public demands that the government take all necessary measures to destroy Palestinian terrorist groups, so the public must demand that the government destroy Jewish terrorist groups.
Just as we decry apologists for Palestinian terrorism, so we must shun apologists for Jewish terrorism.
In recent years, as the movement to delegitimize Israel from the Left has gained momentum, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu has taken to referring to Israel as “the one and only Jewish state.”
To Zionist ears, his constant refrain often sounds grating. Why bother mentioning the obvious? But today his characterization of Israel rings true.
Indeed, it is a reminder of what we can lose, and what we must do everything we can to defend.
We have but one Jewish state; we will never have another one.
Warts and all, Israel must be defended from all of its enemies. Jewish terrorists, like Palestinian terrorists, are not victims. They are enemies of the state. Their apologists – like apologists of Palestinian terrorists – are also enemies of the state.
We must fight and defeat them all with equal determination.
www.CarolineGlick.com
One regretful tragic episode compares very weakly with tens of thousands attacks otherwise. The facts in real numbers is that there are specific less endangered sectors here and usually those are sectors that hate Judaism and Jews. I have no intention to be part of that crowd, ever.
I am not in the feel good line since I see plainly bad situations brought upon our people. Intentionally I may add. One would assume that has been made quite clear by me.
There has been since before 1948 a gruesome a system wide planned unilateral persecution of Jews by the so called left, I call that aggregate unJews, renegades, people that join BDS and call Arafat “partner” rather than joining Jews. In fact harming, betraying Jews.
And then there is the pretend ones such as Rivlin and a number of others.
People that systematically cause pain and harm to us.
Including nut not limited to torture and that is not alluding to ongoing brutality against Jewish youngsters.
We all saw Amona and much more.
Most of the generals in the Oslo scheme come from that element. No other is ever allowed to form a staff otherwise. Notables are Rabin, Lipkin Shahak, correctly named Halutz, the stocks expert, to mention a few. Ya’alon, Gallant are also communal settlements material.
I do not see that the so called israeli demokratiahhh flag carriers that viciously assault young Jews ever deal with Zoabi and other such on any terms.
I mean, it is gruesomely blatant.
Jews in Israel and abroad should try and find ways to unite the Jews and as opposed to dividing us. We are stronger together. If we believe our ideas are better we should try and convince those with different views and not label them evil by some form or other.
Yes both sides call the others names. This is so easy. It is so much harder to try and convince someone else to see it your way, even if a little.
@ Bear Klein:
OK. Lets see if my friend bear klein can get to the real thing.
I am talking about since we have been blessed by the Oslo peace thingy by Rabin, Peres, Beilin, Gillon and other such luminaries> The Oslo derivative as we all know is presently and for some years been operated by Netanyahu.
Initially kibbutzim did represent a line of defense and were part of warfare taking many and cruel casualties.
I lost several of my old country friends in those awful years.
I would like information about since OSLO please.
I am not going to spend time researching but our records are very good.
I am glad to be aware that for the most kibbutzim are not visited by the beasts.
Terrorist attacks against Israel before 1967 including many Kibbutzim including
Givat Hiam. http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/Terrorism/Palestinian/Pages/Which%20Came%20First-%20Terrorism%20or%20Occupation%20-%20Major.aspx
Arab Terrorists do not care about the Jew’s politics only that they are Jews, they want to get rid of all of us. People whether right or left living within green line, past green line should not make artificial divides among the Jews. I many time tell leftists that they should not besmirch the residents who live past the green line as the Arabs want us all gone. The members of the right should not spout faulty theories implying that the Arabs are not attacking Kibbutzim because many of them are leftists.
The terrorists attack Jews in Israel when and where they can. They want us all gone.
So I read the theory that Palestinians will not attack Kibbutzim, Really? Sure??
Deaths 39 (38 civilians including 13 children,[1] 1 Israeli soldier) + 9 attackers
Non-fatal injuries 71
Most cities and villages in Eretz Israel have been attacked by Rabin and Oslo caterva and presently Netanyahu’s “peace partners”.
QUESTION: Which kibbutz has been invaded, invaded by said beasts and its people slaughtered in their homes?
I am not talking about transiting mixed crowds being massacred by the islamic ghouls, as part of that slaughter of “victims of peace” there could have been any number of people from various origins being murdered.
It might have been one school bus from a collective farm RPG’d and some kibbutzim attacked from Gaza in the Gaza belt during wars.
Those kibbutzim joined joyfully “disengagement”. I worked in support of the laboratory of the Ashkelon Power Station and most employees were from kibbutzim. I know their views.
I am talking about the inner land kibbutzim.
Thankfully they seem for the most immune from visitations of Rabin’s et al “peace partners”.
YOU JUST DO NOT ATTACK YOUR OWN SIDE IN A WAR
I mean never! You never do this.
Alex Ferguson the legendary manager of Manchester United never once in his whole life once attacked one of his players in public.
In a war it is even more imperative to never attack your own people.
The big question today is how this can be fought against.
First of all there is need for a new party in Israel that will do what I say above, and that is to stand with the Jewish people at all times and in all conditions without any exception.
There is also a big need to discuss how to fight. The youth in Judea and Samaria, AND IN ISRAEL, are certainly the answer. I say this for many reasons but have not the space here to explain but will in the future.
In general there are too many people sitting around and about on ossified positions. Minds have to be really opened up to find the correct way forward.
I see the reactionaries among my Facebook Friends very clearly in their miserable silence and refusal to defend these imprisoned youth against Netanyahu.
But without a centralised disciplined approach the individual can do nothing
A list of the Oslo victims is available with includes all members of Israeli society left, right, religious, secular and kibbutz members. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/victims.html
THE INFAMOUS “WEDDING VIDEO” LOOKS TO ME LIKE A PHOTOSHOP FRAUD JOB
I have watched this video on Youtube and I can make neither head not tail of it. It is broken into by interviews in Hebrew which I do not understand. From point of view of video it is rubbish type production, filmed from back, obviously on a basic phone, but somehow there is a close up focus of some guy on shoulders stabbing some photo…somewhere. It is on the basis of this weird production that the leaders of Israel and writers like Caroline Glick go to town in condemning the settler youth. Either there are some silly people who do not know anything about strategy and tactics in a war (which I would expect from directionless youth in any country) or else the video is photoshop rubbish. Big write-up on Al Jazeera. Big silence by far too many of my Facebook Friends. Big need to come out and defend all Jews all of the time everywhere.
Publicado el 24 dic. 2015
The following goes along with the Youtube video…QUOTE…”Israeli police have seized a video of Jewish youths dancing at a Jerusalem wedding three weeks ago with guns and knives. The video also shows one masked youth holding up a firebomb while another is seen stabbing a photo of Ali Dawabsheh, the toddler who was killed in the Duma firebomb attack this past”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFL-MJGu4a8
@ bernard ross:
Ya’alon is a hatchling out of the kibbutz Stalinist incubator schools. Poison all the way against anything Jewish and Jews in particular.
Zoabi and her monsters, the perverted degenerates in the ha’aretz sewers who lower the flag out of “respect for Rabin=Peres and their islamic partners and plot to destroy us all can do so w/o a problem.
You all will notice that to the best of our records virtually no kibbutzim have been attacked by the islamic filth associated with the Oslo co murderers. Meanwhile almost 2000 residents. Over 10000 maimed for life. Pogroms effected against a combined total of just about the same number.
The layer you mention are Netanyahu’s aktion team at present until he re unites with livni and lapid.
a storm in a teacup, a fabricated “threat”…. all in order to justify, and cover up, that first criminally inciting declaration by Yaalon, BB, Erdan and Rivlin that Jews burned babies which provoked the muslims to revenge burn and stab Jews.
where are the investigations of all the inciters of the pals, their schools, erakat, abbas. Looks like yaalons application of this law is only to settlers, nationalists and Jews seeking prayer….
the megalomaniac seeks to equate valid criticism with murder.
what terrorism, I dont see any, there were a couple of individual crimes over the last couple of years and the Duma arson, where no evidence of any credibility has been submitted to support, to date, the libelous declarations that Yaalon and his crew keep repeating like Goebbels. Submit the evidence, get indictments, have a jury trial and ONLY after the verdict, call someone guilty……. until then STFU!!!!!!! that is what responsible leadership does.
Bear Klein Said:
from one paragraph to the next, Caroline disagrees with herself. First she establishes the historical dishonesty and bias of Shin Bet and the GOI wrt settlers and in the next paragraph changes her mind becuase the same dishonest institutions made an arrest. She offered no evidence to support her change of mind. read my critique of her article above where I listed in detail why her article is a superficial analysis and neglects major facts. I also show how she changed her mind without providing support for the change of mind in evidence.
I am not surprised by her seeming turnaround. In the past I often lauded her ability to identify a problem but rarely did she come up with solutions. One thing I noticed over the years of reading her column is an apparent loyalty to BB. She rarely criticised him and when she did it was in friendly terms. This article appears to me to be merely a repeat of the same narratives that we should beleive in those that she proved were dishonest. For me, any attempt to use the video as a pretense of evidence in the Duma arson can only be hugely dishonest, and anyone with the slightest knowledge can see that the submission of the video by the gov is devoid of any relevant evidence which proves that its purpose is again to demonize the mystery suspects AND anyone who supports them. The gov has circle its wagons around their global allegations and have decided, trial or not, that the Jew will swing. A trial is a mere formality for fools. Caroline, as expected, has jumped on the bandwagon in support of her dreamboat. Any mention of the video as an attempt to manipulate opinion against suspects is rooted in criminal intentions to circumvent LAW.
A better understanding of what these crooks are up to is to watch the film “Breaker Morant”.
It is heartening to see that the state of Israel can soon be rid of the entire justice system because all they need is Yaalon who luckily, before the torture confessions he extracted which confirmed his prophecy of jewish baby burners, can be investigator, inquisitor, extractor, judge, jury and executioner. What would Israel do without such a clairvoyant who has no need of trial or jury. He shows no leadership or discretion in proclaiming before trial verdict the guilt of Jews it is a waste of time to hold a trial after yaalon has already convicted them to the world and is readying his noose without shame. In my view Yaalon is a megalomaniac drunk on power… but let us not forget that behind him in the background, pulling the strings, is BB… instructing his appointees on releasing the trial balloons.
Rubbish, they have been convicted and only the rope remains to be noosed… a fair trial is impossible after Yaalon, BB, Erdan and Rivlin have proclaimed to the world that Jews burned the baby. Any Jews they bring to trial will be convicted because the 4 made sure to declare it loudly over and over to the world and to put the nail in the coffin they added a video of dancing jews which should be evidence enough to convict any jew off the street they bring to the courthouse. LOL, the Prime MInister, the Defense Minister, the Interior Minister and the President have staked their reputation on whichever mystery murderers they bring to court. The 4 have made sure that the jew will swing. They could bring my dead grandfather to court in a coffin and I am sure he would be convicted.
Just imagine being held before indictment in any normal democratic nation and finding out that the Prime Minister, President, Defense Minister and Interior Minister had just declared to the world that you are guilty. I find Israelis to be gullible in not noticing what happened when the 4, in my opinion crooks, declared to the world that Jews burned a baby and then later submitted as the only justification for their announcement in chorus a video with no connection to the crime… as if it were some sort of evidence of something. One has to be an idiot to not see how dishonest these behaviors were and to trust such folk with anything
@ Bear Klein:
I have experienced Glick’s writings, all of her articles, or 90% plus! video appearances in debates and lectures, including her latest book, cover to cover; which was a feat as the book was not very well written or organized and/or ambiguous, not well thought out and not of any present value. I believe I used the term, OBSOLETE. You used the E word, not I. I would put it this way, for me Caroline has let me down and I have downgraded her to just a garden variety self serving manipulative political hack with questionable reasoning and intellect. I wonder who helped her write her JP articles over the years. Bet ya she had a very talented ghost writer assistant, because this article was NOT written by the same person whom I long respected. Unless as I suggest here and now that just maybe she has had some sort of episode. Maybe she is depressed, has family issues, that could be. I think she needs to clarify precisely what she means here, as it is ambiguous, for her own good and certainly that of The Community. If she has information not yet made public, which she can not divulge at this time, she needs to emphasize that, as she has, based upon the posts here, disappointed and profoundly angered people who once admired and respected her.
From the plethora of posts which followed mine, which have delved into this Caroline article, which by the way, every leftist NGO and propagandist , including the likes of J Street and the likes of Neturei Karta; can now cannibalize to vilify Jews everywhere, not just a few individuals in some group, it is clear to me that Glick’s comments HERE are ill considered and pre-mature. Words have meanings, especially these words, the Words of Glick in this amateur article. Has she blown her cerebral cortex? I do not see how she rehabilitates herself, which is why I postulated that this article is PERHAPS an indication of her political and business realignment. Time will tell whether I was correct or not. I stand by my remarks 100%.
@ Bear Klein:
I disapprove the use of any means outside persistent, but not underlying harmful interrogation against legally held detainees. More so if the interrogated are held w/o representation, sleep, food, sanitary facilities, medical attention, etc. “Administrative detention” must be removed from the scene.
Transparent procedures must be the standard for Jews or anyone else. The whole justice system must be transparent for everyone.
Waiver deviations from the rigid standards cannot possibly be allocated to hired personnel.
Only the Knesset by a super majority may provide strictly controlled latitude to use strong arm ways against detainees.
The questions are clear and must be answered in full.
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
My deduction based on Bennetts comments are that the one suspect the 17 year old was put under psychological disorientation stress to make him vulnerable after the Shabak got word after of an imminent attack from the persons friends.
The Shabak I was reading is after approval from its director and so other higher ups can do this under strict supervision. I do not believe (nor want to believe some of the allegations from the lawyer).
I think Administrative Detention is a dangerous mechanism and allowing it against Jewish citizens is highly questionable. Is it then allowable to use stress techniques to prevent loss of life in
a “ticking bomb” situation. The Supreme Court said in 1999 only then could use the stress techniques. Torture was made illegal against all people. The stress techniques work very well against the Arab terrorists and they regularly give up their accomplices and plans. This is why when you arrest one terrorist you are able then to arrest many more. This has been done effectively since the second intifada.
So the question for an independent commission is it valid to use these techniques to save the lives of Arabs? Will saving the Arabs also save Jews for subsequent retaliation that does not occur?
@ Bear Klein:
At that time I still was a veteran likud Central Committee member, also a former Sharon election campaign chairman. I later resigned from the likud.
Ya’alon methodically planned the military operation against Jewish people alive and dead, towns, farms and Synagogues during “disengagement” and much as Netaniyhau did, he also AFTER all was set, pretended to oppose.
Sharon never liked Ya’alon. Few do… Sharon did not play games and dumped Ya’alon for hapless Mofaz.
I also changed away from the Sharon elements and that caused an attempt against my life. Details available in private,
Both Ezra and Mofaz refused to investigate and so did the so called supreme court.
I have all the documentation and copies are in the hands of several folk overseas.
Will bring it back to bear, so to speak.
Did the shabak torture the sequestered Jewish folk?
While we were typing on Israpundit I found the following:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/205534#.VoAKU1JGh2A
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
Read the links and quotes as to Glick’s position before and after the disengagement she was clearly against it! I have provided a sample of quotes and links. You chose not to read them?
I am also for an independent inquiry about Administrative detention and allegations of torture( I have written that on Israpundit previously sorry you missed that also).
As I wrote I am not sure how you actually get to an independent review. You said the public would vote. I am not sure how that would work, meaning the specific mechanism. Do you have a specific mechanism for candidates for this independent review commission?
@ Bear Klein:
Unless if we, the people obtain immediate answers to torture charges and other crimes by the routinely vicious goons of the shabbak, etc, the people will pursue sternly the right of discovery of the truth past and present.
I could care less how Carmi Gillon feels or pretend to feel about his organization being suspected of torturing Jews and others for decades. Fact is that he is guilty as an accessory to thousands of Jewish people murders by being an active promoter of Oslo criminals. All “victims of peace” that ghastly criminal gang caused will be present the day Gillon is to face a freely elected tribunal.
As to Ms. Glick. We could care less about overseas pahformances. Both her and he liege have produced abundant videos of their speeching meets overseas.
We demand to know her position during disengagement and after. And how does she know that the kidnapped young Jews are guilty BEFORE even their own “judges” pass judgment?
We demand to to know if torture was used by the shabak to extract confessions from the sequestered young Jews.
Is that clear bear?
Do some people wrongly need to slander Caroline Glick to discredit her because her article disagrees with their narrative?
http://carolineglick.com/sharon_the_coward/ In this article she also mentions Sharon firing Yaalon (Chief of Staff IDF) for opposing the disengagement and appointing his lackey Mofaz.
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Column-One-The-irony-of-the-expulsions-from-Gaza-410016
I give a flying petunia about Glick post disengagement move to a better view of what the Oslo disaster dragged into our land. Including but not limited to thousands of “victims of peace”.
And the Oslo criminals better understand that justice will be done upon those that planned Oslo and promoted the murderous “partnership”. Talk about soul searching? That will be one of the options for the Oslo criminals to opt for. Justice nevertheless will be done.
We keep exacting records about the ever variable positions of the people within or near government.
I am not too sure about Ms. Glick’s change of heart regarding disengagement.
Without theatricals, to be credible Ms. Glick must publicly reject support for disengagement and derivatives, all of those.
But lets not engage on lateral issues.
The questions at hand for the Duma tragedy are…
Has the government ordered the torture of sequestered young Jews to extract confessions or not in the Duma case? This is to be answered with either YES or NOT.
A people elected Independent Investigative Commission shall then extract every item of information required to corroborate either claim.
Did the sequestered persons perform the Duma crime?
Also a YES or NO answer is required and the same Commission shall determine the truth.
Were Jews earmarked by the PTB to be guilty before Duma was professionally torched?
Was such choice made during the torching or after?
Has the government effected torture upon sequestered persons in the past?
“Administrative detention” is in fact, sequestration of citizens by force.
Generally that is a prelude to torture.
How shall the people go about to ferret out the truth?
Spare me trusting the demonic “Jewish Sektion” or the self selected judges.
I will not even mention trusting Netanyahu or Weinstein, etc. Ya’alon? One must be totally insane to trust that specimen.
We demand to know the truth. An INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIVE COMMISSION must be elected by the people to find out.
@ woolymammoth:I do not agree with Glick’s version of a one state solution. This does not make her evil.
I have seen her in person in various locals overseas and in Israel giving speeches being a great advocate for Israel and against the leftist view of the conflict and Israel. Demonizing her because one does not agree with on a point or another is mistaken in my opinion.
A series of videos on Youtube on her demonstrate her strong support of Israel.
It all comes down to leadership…leadership first, leadership second and leadership all the time.
Mr Netanyahu in sending his loyal IDF men and women into Gaza in July 2014 gave direct instructions to leave Hamas standing. As I hope to show following the scientific law of cause and effect that leads relentlessly to the latest vilification of the youth movement of Judea and Samaria. The IDF itself is plagued by bad leaders. No matter how brave the young lads and lasses of the IDF were and are they are not equipped to fight Netanyahu and Barak in an intellectual and political manner.
But dialectics teaches that everything is in flux. The reality of the world is really the reality of matter in continual motion. This can easily be proven by simple scientific experiment. The type kids of about 8 or 9 can easily grasp, yes the kids can grasp it but the wooden header teachers often can not!.
With this concept there is also another dialectical rule. That there are also cause and effect in this continual movement.
Yes indeed the cause of present death and stabbings was that failure of Netanyahu to give the brave IDF brave orders. The effect is also that Mr Netanyahu has a guilty conscience.
Netanyahu is a sensitive man and he will understand that this is at the root of his unease. But he is also a sensitive political fighting and ambitious man and this means that he works to cover his past bad decisions.
Here begins a mental process which we cannot follow precisely but of which we know the effect.
Psychologically it may be and most likely is a cause of personality breakdown…a real disorder
Mr Netanyahu and his clique among whom are Rivlin set out to demonise the hilltop youth. To draw attention from his own grievous past sin…not defeating the enemy in those fateful days of July 2014 thus giving rise to recent stabbings of Jews by the Antisemitic enemy, in turn cruelly distorted by the Media in the West.
A complete red herring. the appeal to Jewish piety. Jews are potentially as bad as the Arab haters (this clique teaches) and they know very well and play on (use) this Jewish weakness conditioned by the exile mentality and thousands of years of fearful exile persecution.
But as Bernard has pointed out Hate can be Fascist hate and can also be righteous and anti-Fascist hate, that is (turn the tables) hatred of the Fascists.
Hate can be reactionary. Hate can also be progressive.
The problem is that Netanyahu did not have that righteous hate in the slightest degree otherwise he would have inspired his loyal men and women in the IDF to finish off the problem in those days of July 2014. Destroy the enemy. Totally destroy Hamas/FatahPLO
On the other hand a child is a child and a child needs to be guided in how to fight (I plan to write some things on the child Malala and how she is used) . Netanyahu falls down in that adult responsibility. Clearly and provably fell down by not removing Hamas/PLO-FATAH in July 2014 (Operation Protective Edge the name tells all). Killing righteously in battle. Calling them to trial. Executing them like the Israelis did to Eichmann. At the same time remove Netanyahu and his wife from their house and power. Give them both small but useful jobs to do. End their political lives thus ending the potential damage they can do. Rivlin too and many others.
His responsibility 100 per cent right down the line.
Tell these like Netanyahu to release these children this very minute.
To SHmuel
Also ppksky, woolymammoth and Bernard
Just to address this point you make that the video which Glick plays on at great length proves nothing at all.
I have long been interested in this aspect of how to carry on a political conversation in conditions where you are faced by the state, and all states by their very nature have more power than you have.
To draw the discussion on this out a bit look at my own home country. Few give the real reason for the Good Friday agreement which created new political state institutions in Ireland and in Britain in relation to the Ulster problem, the real reason being that the republican movement was infiltrated by British Intelligence to the very top level of leadership of the IRA and Sinn Fein. Note also that this had a very long history. One of the first Intelligence Maestros who hit the north was a man called Frank Kitson in the Civil Rights days and who had come straight from the Mau Mau insurgency in Kenya, which Goldhagen refers to as a genocide situation.
It seems reasonable to conclude that you SHmuel are right when you suggest that this dance wedding affair smells to high heaven – so easy given press censorship to set this up. The practice of Rivlin is not the practice of one man but the practice of a whole layer inside of Israeli society with roots in the ideological CONFLICTS inside of the Bolshevik Party, later transmitted into the Israeli situation with Ben Gurion treachery on the Atalena affair, the only truthful report of which comes from Begin’s Book, The Revolt.
Furthermore as I hope to write more on (I have had a bad cold this past week) these are mere children in these outposts in Judea and Samaria and they are in need of adult guidance
But the only guidance that they see is a state which is betraying the Jews. All lines point back at Bibi Netanyhau and his treachery in the last war against Hamas. His guidance to the IDF men and women was a guidance of treachery. Glick is an inconsequential little person and only a useful cog in this whole treachery.
(If new to my writing I am an Irish atheist Trotskyist opposed to Antisemitism)
@ bernard ross:
Remember one and all.
The American revolution was all about regime expulsion and electing a new government system. So was the French revolution. San Martin, Bolivar and many other patriots in the Logia Lautaro did the same.
Nonsense to revolution planning. Those Jews kidnapped now have been listed as targets by the renegade unJews for a long time. Rav’s Kahane’s family in particular has been murdered methodically by operatives likely responding to the same core for decades.
I expected this as I saw exactly the same libretto played by the Juntas – Peron against what they called “vende patrias”.
Just as much I expect thousands of more assaults against Jews and the start of MEGA disengagement and “desaparecidos”.
Note that no names are given as to who is being kidnapped. This is also classic to anti-Semitic regimes we all know well.
Netanyahu was always an arch enemy of Eretz Israel and Jewish Heritage. Very sophisticated smoke screens have been used to mask the clear markers he left on his trail.
While his father was alive he maintained a subdued, at his level one may say sneaky, appearance or cover to hide his real self from his very solid father. The moment his patriarch died, all restraint was removed.
Netanyahu’s is a pathological liar. He simply cannot either face by himself the results of his acts and plans or convey true messages to the people. He betrays routinely. That is why he always attracts the worst garbage to flow with him… He uses them time and time again. Barak, Ya’alon, Livni, Olmert, Ben Ami, (it was reported drafted Ben Ami to conduct certain underhanded maneuvers overseas), etc.
Netanyahu WILL AGAIN re “unite” with Lapid, son of Sharon’s staunch ally during disengagement, Lapid the father, clos associate with two infamous and recorded anti-Semites in his party, and certainly will re mate … politically… with Livni.
Netanyahu’s active support, participation in Sharon’s, livni, olmert, ezra, ya’alon, moffaz, and the other seven that Sharon fished out of the likud cesspool to form a “party” tailored for the “disengagement, was not circumstantial. De livni has since then “formed” or joined at least three more such sewers.
He would have joined Sharon happily but he was ordered to pretend to stay out.
Netanyahu gleefully froze Jewish construction.
Just as gleefully destroyed many Jewish holdings, farms, parts of villages and villages. Naturally lied about re constructing.
INTENTIONALLY danced with cardboard props and speeched while in fact allowing Iran’s nuclear plans to prosper.
Abandoned for all practical purposes Temple Mount.
Seriously compromised for the benefit of the Vatican, King David’s Mausoleum.
Allowed full time construction by the EU and the islamic partners of his, all over our land.
Netanyahu runs the “Jewish Sektion”.
TORTURE. Special shock troops and operatives, agents provocateurs, all of that substrate by the thousands, receive from Netanyahu huge budgets which are part of the knesset approved cash lines.
I have little doubt on that Netanyahu-Weinstein-Ya’alon ordered torture to be used against the Jewish youngsters they kidnapped at night. Tasers, batons, psychopaths, breaking bones of civilians was not enough.
AND torture has been routinely used against others as well.
BOTTOM LINE: NO regime that establishes special units such as the “Jewish Sektion”, police “yassam” contingents, as well as military units, does that to play ping pong with those they pursue.
Having said all the above and not for the first time, and much more is still to be disclosed…
NO SANE JEWS MAY call for the violent removal of the filth in question. Besides being suicidal to try to do so millions can override the scum buckets sternly but not resorting to offensive violence.
WE, all of us must propose NEW NATIONAL government structures and ask the people to dump the filth now pretending to lead here while freely voting outside the combina to select the new form of government we need.
Presidential, Parliamentary, Monarchic, or other forms of government may be ELECTED by the people.
THERE are few worth saving from among the flotsam betraying the people.
Carefully vetted Jews must be our representatives.
Special care must be taken to block out the known and even unknown to the public unJewish caterva.
The DUMA operation, from its very start, even before the ashes were cold, was charged to specific Jews by the gruesome renegades rivlin, netanyahu, y’alon and others.
That was the plan and it is my guess from before DUMA was performed.
The follow up was to somehow “find” some fellows with religious tint they could make to “confess” by bribery, blackmail and or torture.
I have been informed that an Internationally respected number of Jurists are being invited to be part of an Independent Investigative and Executive Commission to ferret out all that is true and inform the people about DUMA and much more.
Yeah, right! Let’s be equally determined to fight Jews who pose no threat to us and to fight Muslims who want to torture our families to death. What could be more rational? All Jews who break the law are indistinguishable from genocidal jihadists.
Good woman. Shitty column. All she left out was the Barney Frank debasement: “This makes me so ashamed to be Jewish!”
I am never ashamed to be Jewish, although this is one moment when I am ashamed that Caroline is Jewish. I deplore Jews who equate Jewish imperfections with Gentile depravity. God, that’s annoying. Knock it off, Glick.
So shun me. I fail to appreciate the moral equivalence asserted in this column, so let the shunning commence.
I will not reciprocate, Caroline, as I am too meek and docile to engage in shunning. I will merely content myself to observe that you have regressed from being a proud Warrior Jewess to being Netanyahu’s servile comfort woman.
They must be desperate if they are trotting out the “monarchists” as their big conspiratorial threat. Jews stabbed every day and they come up with those who want a monarchy. They need a national conspiracy and threat in order to satisfy the legal requirements for torture… that is why they are pushing this comical conspiracy as a threat
So now we get once more the great canard that there is even ONE SHRED of equation between pal terror and so called unproven Jewish terror. I have seen no evidence of any widespread Jewish terror. there are one or two proven murders and the duma canard. It is a crime to even utter an equation.
the Jews are at war with the enemy collective who calls themselves pals.. of that there is no doubt. as long as the pal leadership teach their children that Jews are sons of apes and pigs in their mosques, schools…. train their toddlers to call to kill Jews on TV…. as long as they kill jewish civilians and children… there should be no qualms in such a war to take revenge of the same nature in return. When they cease their incitement and terror then they deserve consideration. It is my view that it is best if every anti semite is DEAD. The criminals in ramallah should be dragged to detention and tortured the same as the GOI is doing to Jews. The left wing Israelis who are paid as foreign moles to incite murder against Jews worldwide should be dragged to the gallows. The double standards of demonizing a few dancing Jews must end.
@ bernard ross:
Are not videos popping in a very timely fashion?
When donia Clinton needed one to misdirect all the people regarding Benghazi, VIOLA! There came da video.
All hell is breaking loose regarding the beasts of the “Jewish Sektion” torturing Jews held in their dungeons…
And… Voila da video pops again.
And may I add?
Peron and Junta chums always had either pictures or recordings handy to use to block searches to find their torturing, murdering and turning the bodies into desaparecidos.
I understand from sources that an international Jurists Independent Investigative and Executive Commission is being organized.
The people shall ferret out the facts.
Absolute rubbish from Caroline… the video proves NO SUCH THING!!! They might support the murder, they might desire the murder…these are all speculations… but nowhere does it prove a that they were sure their friends commited the murder.
Many may seek to be moral police but it is no legal crime for the Jewsih victims of decades of muslim terror organized from ramallah to desire the death of their enemy collective. If Jewish children are murdered and Erekat lauds the murderer then why wouldnt they celebrate the death of erakats children. the great crime is the murder of jewish children and the GOI negligence in bringing the murderers to justice… the murderers occupy the Mukata in Ramallah.
Abbas murdered Klinghoffer and others but he and his family and children roam free without justice having been paid while Jews commiserate talmudically about dead enemy children.
In other words Caroline avers that the GOI and the Shin Bet have been dishonest and lacking in credibility in the past regarding nationalists, settlers, zionists and Jews.
Whoa, Caroline… how did you jump from a position that the GOI and shin Bet have been dishonest with settlers to suddenly conclude that when the same dishonest players make arrests suddenly their allegations ring truer???? So if a dishonest cop makes an arrest then his allegations morph into truth???? Isnt it a more logical position to first assume that when a dishonest cop then makes an arrest it is more likely that his arrest is also dishonest and serves to cover up his prior dishonesty?
Really…. and what is it that makes the allegations of jews burning babies at Duma true this week?
Sorry Caroline, you appear to be employing the same illogical reasoning that the GOI has been using to fool folks into believing that a video of dancing hateful Jews is evidence that Jews they hold burned the babies at duma. The video does not even prove that Jewish terrorists exist in any meaningful numbers at all. It might prove that Jewish terrorists and jewish terrorism might have supporters but the video provides no evidence of any actual Jewish terrorist crime commited.
Looks like Caroline has embarked into engaging the same red herring the GOI threw to everyone else: that dancing hateful Jews are evidence of anything more than dancing hateful Jews. And why shouldnt Jews be dancing and hateful? Haven’t these Jews and their children been slaughtered and demonized for decades by the pals, the left and the euros?
The GOI, shin bet and caroline would have us mistake a video of dancing hateful jews for actual evidence of a crime.
Why would they all seek to submit this video more than what it is???? Obviously, if the right is demonized the criticism will go away, the inciting leadership would be off the hook, the shin bet can deflect the torture allegations, the left can resume their euro funded demonizations of the settlers, no one will notice the GOI negligence of the daily stabbings, the settlers can be abandoned because they will be pariahs, giving away YS will become acceptable in order to stop stabbings(the return of land for peace), muslim abuse of Jews in Israel which exceeds muslim abuse of jews in france can resume without criticism, the euros can continue their illegal buildings in YS with BB approval, more land in C can be given the PA, the orwellian doublespeak hijackers of the zionist label(zionist union) can resume their foreign mole euro funding. the status quo can resume with an even more decimate right wing etc etc etc
Everyone has forgotten what was going on before these purges and tortures of dissenters.
this is the first major fact.
The second major fact is that the main leaders..BB, Yaalon, Rivlin and Erdan made these allegations gratuituously without any reason to do so, and made them in chorus and unison in order to strengthen the allegations made without having any credible evidence that could even satisfy an indictment, never mind a trial verdict. In other words, as a substitution for evidence, they intentionally declared the allegations to the world to convince Israel and the world that it is indeed a fact that right wing settler jews burned the baby.
The third fact is that they made the allegations contrary to all normal standards of international governance and leadership in democracies whereby leaders advise citizens to calmly wait for the due legal process of investigation and trial.
Caroline has been negligent in quickly passing over these facts and negligent in NOT asking the question as to WHY these four experienced politcal, security and military leaders would engage in such an obviously unusual leadership practice.
Caroline has been negligent in not asking if they engaged in this behavior intentionally. She never analyzed whether they accidentally erred in naivete, or whether they erred under pressure. She never asked whether they might have known that the arabs would inevitably engage in revenge murders as a result of their LOUD GLOBAL ALLEGATIONS. She never asked if they might have known that Israel and the world would immediately seize upon their words and allegations and unfairly demonize settlers and nationalists as a whole.
Caroline has been negligent as she never speculated as to WHY such experienced mature leaders would INTENTIONALLY declare Jewish baby burning to the world without evidence.
Caroline has been negligent in not asking why the investigation allowed the Duma security cameras to be wiped clean during the first 2 days and why they were not immediately secured.
Caroline has been negligent in not bringing up the location of the house in the middle of the village as an obvious indication of not being a settler terrorism.
I find it odd that Israelis do not ask these very relevant questions because these questions regarding their initial allegations and conduct form the basis of the subsequent events, their own credibility and the credibility of the shin bet.
If anyone believes that torture was not used, again I may add, the person is pathetically affected. Tasers against not resisting Jews have been used and on record.
Many other police brutal acts resulted on convictions several times.
That “them Jews did it” was spread by rivlin, netanyahu and the usual elements even before the fire was out.
Certain people wanted or planned it to come out that way.
What remained for the elements in various salaried state positions was to bag at night a few hapless, unarmed, dispersed Jews from Jewish villages, torture them w/o legal assistance and, come hell or high water, get them Jews to “confess”.
Is it out of the ordinary?
Bay far not. The practice resulted on various “guilty” extractions over the years. List available.
Judges? Dime a dozen. The “Jewish Sektion” has specific pals inserted into the so called judiciary to place stamps as requested.
Celebrating at a wedding? Easy job. The JS, part of the G SS, has hordes of agents all over ready for any call.
Personally I do not doubt that many were and are happy about seeing some evening up the playing field.
The Fogel family was slaughtered while sleeping and celebration were known to have been performed by the islamic beasts.
An international panel of top level Jurists is being assembled to ferret out all of the facts.
Believing the israeli media or police or g ss or most of the secretly selected “judges”.is not quite it.
@ Bear Klein:
As you are well aware, Bear…Glick supports a one state solution in which the Arabs who live in Judea and Samaria would be given a pathway to Israeli citizenship, which, while requiring certain stipulations, could be modified, that is watered down by The Supreme Court to a meaningless series of empty exercises which no one could fail, if you get my drift. There are many radical leftists who endorse a one state solution as well….you know this….geez. This is why I emphasized Glick’s past because it is unusual and interesting.
@ Ted Belman:
My comments in no way endorsed this group or that group, it was based upon Glick’s comments alone, in a vacuum. I am, of course aware of the controversy, the investigation and the event which took place. However, I never commented upon it because it seemed as though there was no solid proof to conclude anything at this point.
We do know that, in the past, news events have been twisted to make it appear as though Israel had engaged in improper behavior when after investigation and trial, in some cases, it was exonerated, despite the best effort to withhold evidence by European media, which may have been complicit in framing Israel.
Those who would vilify The Jewish Residents of Judea and Samaria are going to generalize Glick’s comments in this article and use it to justify past, present and future attacks upon Jews, not only in Judea and Samaria, but in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and Haifa…even in San Bernadino.
I believe given the tendency to justify the murder of Jews, around the world based upon rumor and lies, it is improper to pre-judge the outcome of a police investigation and possible prosecution, certainly by Glick, as it gives a great opening for those unsympathetic to Jews and Israel to write and shout, Look, even the dyed in the wool Zionist CG states these positions.
The comments are pre-mature and prejudicial, and could easily be seen to imply guilt, in this particular case, Ted, in my view.
@ Bear Klein:Yes, I think that covers it. Opposition to the “two state solution” is irrefutably a right wing virtue.
@ Ted Belman:It is pretty idle to be disturbed about some Jewish group. That’s not what’s at issue. The question is, are there really anything like Jewish terrorists. No there aren’t. In the same vein, Israel is not a war criminal state or an apartheid state. The Palestinians are not an oppressed minority. etc., etc.
Glick is and has been for a longtime a strong advocate against the two state solution and an advocate for the right wing and against the view of the left in the world and in Israel.
@ woolymammoth:
@ woolymammoth:
@ ppksky:
Caroline’s history aside, I think that her analysis is right on. I, too, am disturbed by this Jewish group. I don’t like their manifesto, methods and goals. They should be banned. She correctly distinguished this group from the Jewish left supported by European governments and the Palestinian Authority sponsored terrorism.
Her article did not address the question of torture, the facts of the case nor whether or not the suspects were guilty. She focused on the existence of Jewish terrorists.
@ ppksky:
Glick worked directly under Rabin and Peres to design the implementation of Oslo. She jumped ship when it became obvious to her it was going to fail, BIG TIME and re-created herself as a right wing hardliner. She took a position with The Freeman Centre when she wanted to get out of harms way and milked that for all it was worth. But, business has not been booming for Caroline and her articles have been running flat for a long time now, over one year or more. During the effort to stop Obama’s ludicrous Iran Nuclear Deal, which is designed to give Iran immediate sanctions relief and a pathway to a nuclear arsenal, Glick lashed out. She blamed “The American Jewish Community” as a whole, rather than the powers that be in AIPAC for a petty political move on the part of
AIPAC, accusing them, The American Jewish Community, as if it were a monolith; of betraying Israel. AIPAC invited one particular democratic senator, Coons, to it’s annual program after Coons gave into Obama and “reluctantly” supported the dirty deal. What does that decision have to do with The American Jewish Community, including those who have opposed Obama from day one, it does not have anything in common at all. As we know Obama threatened the democratic senators and almost every one stood down. In so doing Caroline burnt her bridges on the American Jewish Right and has become something of a pariah. Glick is a businesswoman, listen to her promoting her book, constantly, despite the fact that it is now OBSOLETE. Trust me, she will carve out a place for herself, a niche such as “centrist”. The left will want her to keep the conservative label to show that the country has gone way too far to the right so much so even conservative CG takes pause.
Do not be shocked to see her burying the hatchet with Livni. Thanks to the right, Glick has made a name for herself which is marketable and she intends to capitalize on it, she knows where the money is too. In particular among those who are not really familiar with her, that is those on The Left, she has been off radar of those people except the occasional high visibility appearance. It will not be difficult to re-package Glick. She does her homework and memorized her lines very very well to make them appear to be spontaneous and heartfelt. That is what the leftists will remember the emotion and less the content. When the content is tweaked properly it will be time to present her as a finished product. She will probably have a different look too.
@ woolymammoth:Wow. I find it hard to believe that Glick would be somehow aligning herself with the left. Or that the left would suddenly cultivate some kind of interest in her.
Glick is an old fan of Ayn Rand. That kind of political fandom doesn’t fade away too easily. Think of the ongoing cult of Reagan worship.
I wasn’t singling out Glick personally, I was pointing out a trend among bloggers and opinions I otherwise respect.
This anti semetic(Shemetic) article written by one of the low level architects of The Oslo Accords, is less about Jewish Terrorism, as she has no proof, so it is a blood libel and more about Glick and her in process makeover designed to land her back in the leftist camp as a recent convert. (Recall that anti-semetism has been defined by three words, lies about Jews.)She wore out her welcome and took the right for all she could get, the well is dry, so it is now time cross back over the line to the more fertile lands of Haaretz. She has to prove her bonafides in order to be welcomed back in to the Soros funded clique. It will be a coup for the left to have Glick on their side and there is plenty of available treasure $$$$ to lavish upon their new darling. Glick is going to have to jump through, not some, but ALL of their hoops. Glick will be only too happy to oblige. Her book outlining her support for offering full citizenship to the Arab residents of Judea and Samaria is something the left can work with and spin. Naturally Glick will have to be de-briefed and she will have plenty of confidential information which will help to undermine her former allies on the right. She will enjoy this and has plenty of documentation, as she was incorrectly assumed to be trustworthy. She is not, never was. It has always been about Glick.
I once asked a professor of mathematics if he had any insight to share on playing the lottery. He said there is a mathematical joke about playing the lottery. It goes, “The odds of your winning the lottery are about the same if you play or not.”
I recall that when this Duma case first broke there were reliable reports that the family of the people targeted in this fire bombing had some similar experiences that turned out to be a family dispute — or something like that. Clearly that report has gone down the internet memory hole.
And also, despite all the agonizing over the prospect of “Jewish terrorism”, we have yet to see these prisoners charged with anything. Naturally, one of the problems of torturing prisoners is poor results. But here, we are not seeing any results at all. Why are there no charges? Where is the evidence? Why is nobody talking about the lack of evidence? What happened to earlier speculation about the people targeted in this?
This posing the existence of something like a body of “Jewish terrorists” is another fake narrative that Glick has fallen in with. It ought to be dried out from lack of use like the other fraud, the fake Palestinian ethnicity narrative.
Nobody really believes that there is anything like Jewish terrorists. Like playing the lottery, the odds of us finding a Jewish terrorist are about the same whether there are any or not.