350 women rabbis sign letter condemning Trump ‘hate speech’

T. Belman. This is disgusting. The letter and the article are both hit pieces. First of all the letter describes Trump as having “denigrated people by race, by nationality, by their gender and by their most intimate, personal challenges.”. I have followed every Trump utterance and can honestly say that their accusation has no factual basis. All his utterances when read in context do no such things. The letter also mentions his infamous 2005 video. There is no defense to it. It is what it is.

What makes this a hit piece is that they don’t in any way apply their principles to Hillary Clinton’s utterances. Isn’t there a commandment against “bearing false witness” or “coveting your neighbors” anything. What does Judaism have to say about her abusing her husband’s victims or smearing a 12 year old rape victim or her abuse of her underlings. What about labeling people “deplorable and irredeemable”? On all this they are silent. They say that Trump doesn’t speak for them i.e., “not in our names”. Does this mean that when Hillary does what she does, she does it in their names?

The article pissed me off because it stated:

“Coming one day after Trump rattled much of the world by suggesting he would refuse to accept the outcome of the election (unless he wins), something a major party nominee has never done before in the history of the republic, the letter cast the candidate as threatening the very fabric of the American idea.”

Firstly there is ample precedent for doing so. It is his right to do so and calling on the rule of law is is totally in line with the “American idea”

GOP nominee’s ‘concept of the human person and the human body’ is incompatible with Judaism’s teachings, say spiritual leaders

BY ERIC CORTELLESSA, TOI

WASHINGTON — More than 350 women rabbis have signed a joint letter released Thursday condemning Republican nominee Donald Trump for behavior and language they passionately characterized as an assault on Jewish values.

Without delving into his myriad controversies on the campaign trail — many of which have drawn the repeated ire of the organized American Jewish community — the letter says that the words of Torah are fundamentally “incompatible with Donald Trump’s concept of the human person and the human body.”

The letter, entitled “Women Rabbis Condemn Trump Hate Speech,” was deliberately planned to coincide with Simhat Torah, the annual time of year in which Jews around the world conclude and then restart their reading cycle of Judaism’s holiest text.

One of its signatories, Rabbi Julie Schonfeld, executive vice president of the Rabbinical Assembly who delivered an invocation at this year’s Democratic National Convention, said in an email to reporters that the idea derived from a similar letter sent by Christian clergywomen, which accrued more than 1,000 signatures.

The letter, which as of this writing has 353 signatures, described Trump as having “denigrated people by race, by nationality, by their gender and by their most intimate, personal challenges.”

It also alluded to recently released audio and video from 2005 in which the real estate mogul can be heard boasting about making unwanted sexual advances on women. Since then, 10 women have come forth and accused him of kissing and groping them without their consent. Trump has denied the allegations.

“His callous descriptions of uninvited physical contact and even sexual assault offend our understanding of appropriate relationships between human beings,” the letter said.

The missive is a strong rebuke to a candidate who has often cited his Orthodox Jewish son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and converted daughter, Ivanka Trump, to emphasize his commitment to Israel and the Jewish community.

“Judaism teaches that a person’s utterance of words is in fact a powerful deed. Humiliating someone, even privately, and especially publicly, is a serious form of emotional violence that causes tangible harm and is therefore forbidden by our faith,” the women rabbis stated.

“Consequently, we find Donald Trump’s denigration of so many people and groups to be an ongoing assault he perpetually carries out before the entire world,” they added. “He does this recklessly in the name of our society. As women rabbis and as Jewish leaders in the most sacred and joyous season of our year, we say ‘Not in our names.’”

The letter has been signed by a number of prominent American female rabbis, including Rebecca Sirbu, who heads Rabbis Without Borders; Renee Goldberg Edelman of Temple Sha’arey Shalom in Springfield, NJ; and Lauren Holtzblatt of Adas Israel Congregation, the largest Conservative synagogue in Washington, DC, who was listed by The Forward as one of the most inspiring rabbis in 2016.

Coming one day after Trump rattled much of the world by suggesting he would refuse to accept the outcome of the election (unless he wins), something a major party nominee has never done before in the history of the republic, the letter cast the candidate as threatening the very fabric of the American idea.

“We condemn Donald Trump’s behavior and words because they demean women and men, Republicans and Democrats, Americans and our friends and allies around the world, and people of every race, nationality and religion,” it stated.

“Trump’s toxic words erode the integrity of our political institutions, our civic traditions and the customs of civility in public discourse upon which we all rely for our safety and stability.”

The letter did not mention Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

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  2. @ honeybee:
    Are you calling me “Mr. Shane” for some reason ….say like connected to ‘Gallagher and Shean” Or maybe Alan Ladd who played the title role in the killer Western movie “Shane”…which by the way, I thought very good. Except I couldn’t bear that kid whining “Shane” all the time, got on my nerves after a while….

    Or is there a Mystical Hidden Meaning known only to Honeybubbela……..

  3. Austin Said:

    I knew she’d been around for a long time, although i’ve never heard her sing,-not my kind of music-

    Janet, who has sold over 100 million records, is widely regarded as one of the most successful female solo artists of all time.

    and now she walks about in a black tent with just her face sticking out like a pathetic nobody that her husband is hiding liking an embarassed relative. Watching the two of them together says it all… he might as well be walking his dog.

    Janet is said to have taken a while to adjust to life in Qatar, due to the restrictions placed on women – and the fact she’s had to give up designer clothes.

    BWAAHAHAHAHAHA
    Austin Said:

    a Muslim who looks like a European of some sort. Maybe his family is Albanian or Bosnian or whatever.

    The star is believed to have become a Muslim after marrying Qatari billionaire Wissam Al Manna, 41, in 2012.

    at least she married into money and a thriving tent business.

    Our exclusive pictures show the couple looking relaxed and happy as they shopped in London earlier this week.

    the pictures dont give me that vibe at all… to me she looks like she is trying to poke her head out of a hole in the tent but cant get it through. Perhaps its just the pregnancy blues.

  4. Austin Said:

    Taking advantage of the “Edit” to point out that at last I know how to highlight owing to good instruction

    I am bursting with nachas, so proud of you Mr. Shane, that I am tap dancing.

  5. Austin Said:

    , I’d be hard pressed to restrain myself from slapping them in the face

    I would laugh in their faces, I have done that before, I just laugh at them.

  6. I guess the Johnson Amendment — which Trump and the GOP 2016 platform call for repealing — is only applied to Conservative Clergy. Isn’t this grounds for some kind of class-action suit?
    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/24030-trump-repeal-johnson-amendment-that-muzzles-pastors. Shouldn’t the institutions these 350 represent lose their tax-exempt status if they don’t disavow and fire them?

    https://prod-static-ngop-pbl.s3.amazonaws.com/media/documents/DRAFT_12_FINAL%5B1%5D-ben_1468872234.pdf

    “The Johnson Amendment refers to a change in the U.S. tax code made in 1954 which prohibited certain tax-exempt organizations from endorsing and opposing political candidates.
    Johnson Amendment – Wikipedia”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_AmendmentWikipedia

    —
    Though, I admit — all other things being equal, as they obviously are not — it annoys me when religious leaders throw their weight around in temporal matters. Apropos of nothing, I could’t resist this chestnut (one of my favorites):

    One Pope, in the Dark Ages, decreed that all Jews had to leave Rome. The Jews did not want to leave, and so the Pope challenged them to a disputation to prove that they could remain. No one, however, wanted the responsibility… until the synagogue sexton, Moishe, volunteered.
    As there was nobody else who wanted to go, Moishe was given the task. But because he knew only Hebrew, a silent debate was agreed. The day of the debate came, and they went to St. Peter’s Square to sort out the decision. First the Pope waved his hand around his head. Moishe pointed firmly at the ground.
    The Pope, in some surprise, held up three fingers. In response, Moishe gave him the middle finger.
    The crowd started to complain, but the Pope thoughtfully waved them to be quiet. He took out a bottle of wine and a wafer, holding them up. Moishe took out an apple, and held it up.
    The Pope, to the people’s surprise, said, “I concede. This man is too good. The Jews can stay.”
    Later, the Pope was asked what the debate had meant. He explained, “First, I showed him the Heavens, to show that God is everywhere. He pointed at the ground to signify that God is right here with us. I showed him three fingers, for the Trinity. He reminded me that there is One God common to both our religions. I showed him wine and a wafer, for God’s forgiveness. With an apple, he showed me original sin. The man was a master of silent debate.”
    In the Jewish corner, Moishe had the same question put to him, and answered, “It was all nonsense, really. First, he told me that this whole town would be free of Jews. I told him, Go to Hell! We’re staying right here! Then, he told me we had three days to get out. I told him just what I thought of that proposal.” An older woman asked, “But what about the part at the end?” “That?” said Moishe with a shrug, “Then we had lunch!”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_humour#Types_of_Jewish_humour

  7. @ Marianne Tioran:
    It’s funny – they support Gay Rights, but they don’t seem to mind Gays being butchered by ISIS in Miami, or being hanged in Gaza and in the Iran their beloved chimp-on-crack and cur dog Hillary make obscene deals with and cozy to.

    Bottom line is they’re whores – and ironically a substantial amount of them are Lesbians – for me, and my late beloved Zaydeh not a single one would ever be considered to be a Rabbi.

    They don’t stand with Israel, they sure don’t stand with the Jewish people, and they sure as hell don’t know Torah.
    And if they admire Jew-baiters like Obama, Kaine and Hillary. they’re not Jews, period even if their deluded congregants think they are.

    Heck, they’re not much woman either.

    Filth. Lying filth. Period.

  8. bernard ross Said:

    I agree with this 100%. The same with Jews defending muslims against islamaphobia who will later be seen to be a 5th column in alliance with, and defending, those seeking to destroy America. They are the dumbest of all possible jews, completely ignorant of the real danger jews have NEVER been able to stop fearing

    Everything I wanted to say on this subject has already been ably presented by others, and has been read by all. I can only endorse it with my own 100%…

  9. Alan Rockman Said:

    I’ve been raised to never hit a woman and I pride myself on that, but if any of these sluts came up to me and did their smear Trump, uphold the poor, little cockroaches, oops, Palestinians, I’d be hard pressed to restrain myself from slapping them in the face

    Why restrain yourself, you have my permission at least, and I’m sure of many others too.

    Taking advantage of the “Edit” to point out that at last I know how to highlight owing to good instruction . Quite an achievement for a computer nudnik like me.

  10. @ bernard ross:
    What surprises me, and I’m sure many others, is that she’e 50 years old. I knew she’d been around for a long time, although i’ve never heard her sing,-not my kind of music- so I just looked it up. She was 50 in May, and married to a Muslim who looks like a European of some sort. Maybe his family is Albanian or Bosnian or whatever.

  11. they all need to go back to school and learn the torah better, what sin really is, since they support abortion and homosexuality, and what teshuvah means

    better yet, they have no morals of their own if they support hillary, so they should turn in their little kippas

  18. AS an earlier poster said, Women Rabbis are an oxymoron. More than half of these sluts who stand before a pulpit equate Palestinian rights with rights of Jews – EVEN WHEN THE PALESTINIANS KILL BABIES AND THREATEN TO KILL MORE JEWS.

    I honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see the name Sharon Brous in the list. Missy Brous, from one of the more “hip” – make that un-Jewish temples in L.A. is always banging the drums from Gays, Illegals, and yep, you guessed it, Palestinian Moslems.

    And always smearing Jewish settlers. Nice.

    By the way we excommunicated poor Spinoza for much less than these dreck deserve.

    I’ve been raised to never hit a woman and I pride myself on that, but if any of these sluts came up to me and did their smear Trump, uphold the poor, little cockroaches, oops, Palestinians, I’d be hard pressed to restrain myself from slapping them in the face.

    NOT JEWS, AND NOT WOMEN. Certainly NOT compared to my 85 year old Jewish Cowgirl mother who would spit on them for supporting the Jew-hating Mongrel.

  20. bernard ross Said:

    more and more folks will ask these questions,

    I m asked this question all the time by Gentiles who truly support Jews. What do I say, I say I cannot ,for the life of me explain why Jews vote against their won interest. Many see us as two different distinctive peoples, East/West Coast Liberal and Israelis.

  22. honeybee Said:

    Don’t worry Yankee Boy, who listens to women.

    not just women, “jewish women”
    those who have been counting all the jews connected with globalism, migrant flooding, defending muslims terrorists… they will add this to the growing list of Jewish betrayal as a 5th column. Jews think they are safe because they have been relatively safe in the US for some time…. folks notice Jews engaged in activities dangerous to their own. the global trend is to greater and more intense anti semitism… anything is again possible.

  23. yamit82 Said:

    Pretending to be Jews is more like it.

    thats why I said “jewish rabbis” instead of “rabbis”
    yamit82 Said:

    Now they have potentially half the country hating and blaming them and all Jews for the collapse of Trump if it comes to that…. Sometimes it’s wiser to remain silent for the good of all now they have painted for themselves and all other Jews a bulls-eye target collectively on all Jews…. I call them more than anything traitorous stupid faux Jews.

    I agree with this 100%. The same with Jews defending muslims against islamaphobia who will later be seen to be a 5th column in alliance with, and defending, those seeking to destroy America. They are the dumbest of all possible jews, completely ignorant of the real danger jews have NEVER been able to stop fearing. The number of americans who will hate muslims and the left who brought them in will only grow and so will hatred of the Jews…purely driven by their own actions. These idiots defend the same folks who daily abuse jewsih children in campuses and schools so even those they support and defend hate them. Soon everyone will again hate the Jews and the fool Jews are clueless. Only idiots choose the side who hates them. They are lunatics lighting a fire under the worlds Jews. They probably dont even know that Germany was the most liberal place in Europe where Jews ran to… they think things cant change in the US… they are so superficial they think its about words and not that they will be seen by the nation as traitors.

  24. @ yamit82:
    Verily, to fall into the trap of being tools for a regime and woman with infamous history of lies and misuse of public funds, and dwell on words of others over the misdeeds of a true Sinner like Hillary Clinton is a SHANDA.

  28. @ bernard ross:

    Pretending to be Jews is more like it. Some if not most of the signatories are Lezzies most don’t believe in God most are anti Israel some are pro Palestinian and none believe the Torah they speak of is the actual word of God given to the Jewish people at mt. Sinai. They are Leftists first and last Liburl at best aligned with the Democrat Party and their agenda. They are closer in thought and practice with Methodists than Judaism. They are as bad if not worse than the Neturei Karta maybe worse because they pretend their Jewishness where only ignorant Jews and gentiles recognize them as real Jews no less rabbis (sic). Now they have potentially half the country hating and blaming them and all Jews for the collapse of Trump if it comes to that…. Sometimes it’s wiser to remain silent for the good of all now they have painted for themselves and all other Jews a bulls-eye target collectively on all Jews…. I call them more than anything traitorous stupid faux Jews.

  30. Women rabbi’s is an oxymoron and what they announced just proved it. Trump went on TV and apologized unlike Bill Clinton.
    If G_D can forgive David for adultery & murder. Then G_D can forgive Trump what he said and apologized for and so can we.
    This group of women have showed their hypocrisy, bias, and stupidity.