Yaalon: If there’s a disengagement, let Gazans get their own water and electricity.
By Elad Benari, Canada
Strategic Affairs Minister Moshe Yaalon said on Friday that Israel’s 2005 disengagement from Gaza is not yet complete, since Israel continues to supply Gazans with necessities such as water and electricity.
“I think that we theoretically disengaged from Gaza but we didn’t really disengage,” he said during a gathering in Tel Aviv. “The world considers us as being responsible for what happens there. We provide them electricity with which they manufacture the rockets they fire at us. We provide them with water and energy and they use that against us. If there’s disengagement, I want to complete that disengagement. Let them desalinate their own water, produce their own energy, let them be connected to Egypt. Then the situation will be clearer.
“Our policy is to against Gaza is deterrence,” said Yaalon. “Targeted killing for them is a significant event. It’s not a stable situation, so the best defense is to attack. Extracting a price from them is what creates the deterrence. If there was no such deterrent we would receive rockets every day.”
Addressing the situation in Egypt, he said, “Egypt will remain unstable for a long time. Economically, Egyptians will have 87 million mouths to feed. In terms of security, the only border that does not threaten Egyptians is the one with Israel, but it’s a very problematic security situation as the main problem for us is the Sinai. The Sinai Peninsula has become a haven for terrorism.
“There is an exploitation of non-governance which began already in the days of Mubarak,” explained Yaalon. “An infrastructure of terrorist organizations, including Al Qaeda, supported by Iran and Palestinians for whom it is convenient to leave Gaza can be established in the Sinai. Sinai is Egyptian and we have a peace treaty with Egypt. We do not carry out targeted killings in the Sinai, so the terrorists have much greater freedom. We demand that the Egyptian regime show determination and sovereignty, and this will be tested.”
Yaalon warned against Egypt’s attempts to change parts of the treaty it signed with Israel, saying that “for us this is not an option. If they want to put in a military force, we’ll talk about it. But it would be a very bad precedent if we start opening agreements. President Morsi is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, but his statements have been cautious. He does not mention Israel, but on the other hand is forced to work under constraints. Although he would very much like to open the peace agreement, at the end of the day he is forced to say that he is committed to it. Because if that does not happen, American money would stop flowing into Egypt. That’s why an agreement that isn’t backed by interests is not worth the paper on which it was signed.”
Yaalon also spoke about the peace process with the Palestinian Authority and said, “[PA Chairman] Abbas does not say he wants two states for two peoples and denies the existence of the Jewish people. He also does not say that this agreement that will bring about the end of the conflict and an end to his demands. The argument with Abbas is about the very existence of Israel.
“When Condoleezza Rice heard [former Prime Minister] Olmert’s proposal [to Abbas] she was surprised by its generosity, but Abbas refused immediately,” said Yaalon, adding, “I was not surprised by his reaction, because for him to agree to a solution of two states for two peoples is disastrous. He needs the conflict sustained over time. As well, as long as the PA educates young people to wear explosive belts and blow us up, there will be no peace or coexistence. Now the people of Israel know that we tried and it does not work. Abbas has no interest in reaching an agreement with us, but he will blame us. For the past twenty years, the worst terrorist attacks took place during periods of concessions. That’s why we need to stand firm.”
Still fundamentally wrong – Where proponents of an agreement with the Arabs are dangerously wrong is in the assumption that they can bypass the genocidal feelings in the Arab population by signing an agreement with their tyrant. Foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman had a profound insight a while ago when he said that peace can only be achieved between nations, not just between leaders. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/158258 – Avigdor should have good insights more often. Unfortunately he has embraced Ehud Barak’s proposal for disengagement from Judea and Samaria now.
Abbas this… Abbas that… Abbas….Abbas. – Abbas is merely today’s ruler in the PA, with only a small base of popular support. Here today, gone tomorrow. Same for Yaalon, Bibi, and all the rest. But the land belongs to the Jewish people. Your politicians are administrators paid by the Israeli people to carry out policies according to the party platform. But the Likud platform is fraudulent. It hasn’t been implemented in years. Likud MKs know it. And the voters know it. Voters are signing blank cheques based on pure faith. But faith belongs in the synagogue, not at the voting booth.
If the leadership is so adamant to go ahead with land-for-peace deals, then submit the proposal through a referendum to both Israelis and PA/Gaza Arabs. Ask the people. If the Arabs are against it, what’s the point of having another land-for-terror deal.
QUESTIONS: why doesn’t the younger generation of politicians have more clout? The same old names keep reappearing at the top of the list.
For voters the choice is so narrow every time (sigh!) between the bad and the extremely bad.
Israel is a young country. Why is it being run by those in their 60s and up? It’s not as if those elder statesmen have an admirable record either. Some of them should have retired in shame years ago.
What are young MKs with energy and good ideas up against? Why hasn’t there been a party revolt yet? Kadima split from Likud, but it was to do harm to Israel. Why not a revolt for the good of the country?
Is there a shortcut to upset the business-as-usual mode entrenched in the present party/electoral system?
My definition of Gaza is an outlaw haven where only the top outlaws have a decent standard of living. Are they the ones living in the gaudy mansions on the coast? Are they the ones who take the profits of the new resorts on the coast? Are they the ones who vetoed a sewer system which could have been constructed when Qatar was financing the resorts? Are they the ones who vetoed a new desalinization plant which the U.N. offered to build for the children of Gaza?
Are they the ones who force Gazans to live amidst puddles of poop?
The Israeli unJews, elites or any other label applicable, have invested billions on the fabricated peoples enterprises. The Peres Fund was heavily invested in their telecom systems. Others are deep into other sectors.
They will not ever allow true disengagement… That never was the unJews plan and the general knows that.
The plan was and remains to destroy any and all Jewish personal, national and Heritage properties and Icons. The agricultural sector of the Kibbutz movement also wanted to smash competition from Gush Katif farms.
The true disengagement is impossible as Egypt cannot even maintain its own population or wants the strip.
The true solution is clear to those willing to accept reality.
Gaza: how delusional are the Jew-hating leftists?
A famous “American-Jewish linguist” who is idolized by the Jew-hating leftist goyim, was originally not allowed by Jewish Israel to visit the West Bank from Jordan.
Undeterred, recently he flew to Egypt, and freely entered Gaza from Egypt. Presumably, in both Egypt and Gaza, he did not find a single Jew (?other than himself). And once in Gaza, in an entirely predictable manner, he gave his usual diatribe: that Gaza is under occupation from the Jewish Israelis, and is completely blockaded by them, with the implication that Jewish Israelis are savage nazis, and the gazans are the poor, innocent victims of the Jewish nazis, held hostage by them.
And this insanity was uttered by someone the Jew-hating goyim consider to be a “genius”.
But to top it off, I recently read this comment in The Guardian: “Just because they chose the name “Islamic Jihad” for themselves, does not mean that they are actually islamic jihadists”. The writer, a typical Jew-hating leftist, is claiming that Islamic Jihad has only an incidental relationship to islam, and they are really palestinian “freedom-fighters”, fighting a just war against the Jewish nazi occupiers in the only means they have available (i.e., murdering Jewish babies). And therefore, Jewish Israel must recognize them as true “partners for peace”, and negotiate with them for the just return of “stolen palestinian lands.”
In psychology, the leftists are trapped in something called “a self-reinforcing delusion”. With time, they will just become more and more delusional, more and more fanatical, and more and more obsessed with killing Jews. And for normal Jews, the idea of being able to have a rational dialogue with them is itself a type of delusion.
LOL, I always get a kick out of Yamit’s comments about Israeli politics.
True but one would need to be deaf and blind and severely brain impaired not to agree. Yet it took Yaalon many years and many Jewish dead and maimed for life to realize it. Yet saying this it has not caused him to oppose publicly or leave the government in protest when his PM did make concessions and offered many more that have yet to be accepted. He as part of the governing elite must share equally with BB, the traiterous concessions made to our enemies he above decries.
Hot off the presses: Ya’alon: Israel would welcome US-Iran talks, if they work
I would remind readers that General Yaalon when head of military Intelligence recommended ceding the Golan to Syria for a paper peace agreement.
While subsequent events may have tempered his Zeal for Land giveaways I would not consider him to be ideologically right wing but a rational military mind whose concern is primarily security butcan there really be an ideal secure situation in Israel?
He is to be preferred over BB, Livni or any other animal and rodents in our political ZOO.