Why moving to the Sinai peninsula is the solution for Gaza’s Palestinians

The Sinai Peninsula comprises one of the most suitable places on Earth to provide the people of Gaza with hope and a peaceful future.

By Joel Roskin, JPOST,    DEC 25/23

The 365 km² Gaza Strip has remained a hot potato in Israel-Egypt relations since its conquest by the Egyptian Army in 1948 as part of Egypt’s failed attempt to annihilate the newly-born State of Israel. Egypt invaded Israel along two main axes, reaching the outskirts of Jerusalem and only 20 km. short of Tel Aviv, but the Israel Defense Forces pushed off this offensive. These battles generated a wave of refugees that found haven in the Gaza Strip, which remained under Egyptian military control until 1967.

Since 1948, and up until the current partial release of some of the Israeli babies, children, and women taken hostage by Hamas terrorists, the Egyptians have been significantly involved in the politics and economy of the Gaza Strip. The Egyptians locked the residents of Gaza and the refugees of the 1948 War in the Gaza Strip, and, with the backing of the United Nations, still deny them the right to rebuild their lives in all Arab countries, including in the adjacent Sinai Peninsula of Egypt. This harsh policy was one of the major and long-term catalysts for the intensifying human stagnation of now circa 1.8 million inhabitants within the Strip.

Beyond the abduction, mutilation, burning, rape, and murder of 1,200 Israelis and other nationals, the Hamas terrorist invasion of Israel on October 7 destroyed many Israeli agricultural villages. This barbarian murder-fest led the IDF to conquer the northern Gaza Strip and the Hamas-infested Gaza metropolis as part of Israel’s goal to destroy Hamas terror capabilities. As civilians were ordered to move south, the southern Gaza Strip became a haven for most of Gaza’s residents.

The battles in the northern Strip generated significant damage and destruction of buildings utilized by Hamas. Damage to the immense terror-tunnel system further destabilized the metropolis’s substrate. Major portions of the metropolis are considerably incapacitated and cannot be simply fixed. Rather, the damaged and destroyed structures must be completely torn down. The tunneled – and consequently exploded and bulldozed – soil must undergo extensive environmental and engineering rehabilitation.

In other words, the metropolis has to be fully evacuated, redesigned, monitored, and only then rebuilt to provide habitable and economic conducive conditions. Such an effort requires unique expertise and immense funding and will take considerable time that cannot be calculated. Therefore, the war is anticipated to end with a unique humanitarian challenge of how to construct a better future for the people of Gaza.

Since Israel’s unconditional turnover of the Gaza Strip to the Palestinian Authority in 2005, Gazans have completely failed to generate a productive Palestinian-administered entity, despite generous economic support, mainly from America, Europe, Qatar, and the UN. This may be associated with the coupled effect of an intrinsic hatred-focused, fanatic, anti-Israel Islamic culture, and links with Iran, along with limited geographical conditions, poor natural and human resources, and a high population density. This situation raises serious doubts that any type of future self-sustainable efforts will yield a stable and free socioeconomic culture and promising future in the Strip. A creative solution is needed ASAP.

Sinai’s promising characteristics

The adjoining Sinai Peninsula, in essence, is the exact opposite of the Gaza Strip, comprising one of the most suitable places on Earth to provide the people of Gaza with hope and a peaceful future. Covering 60,000 km² (165 times larger than the Strip), its population is barely around one-third of Gaza’s, making it one of the emptiest places in the Mediterranean region. Although under Egyptian governance, it is an integral geographic-geological continuation of Israel and the Gaza Strip, with which it shares a 200 km. and 14 km. long border, respectively.

Therefore, the geographic setting of the Mediterranean coast of northern Sinai is also a physical continuation of the Gaza Strip with ample, shallow groundwater in the northeast. Here, due to the intensive smuggling of arms to Hamas via Sinai in the last few years, Egypt fully destroyed the residential infrastructure bordering the Gaza Strip, and expelled the local population.

In northwestern Sinai, Egypt has invested immensely in building for agriculture, including freshwater canals. Furthermore, Egypt has surprisingly wired Sinai with excellent infrastructure, overshooting its civilian and industrial needs. These include an array of paved roads and highways connected by tunnels beneath the Suez Canal to mainland Egypt.

The facts demonstrate that the northern Sinai Peninsula is an ideal location to develop a spacious resettlement for the people of Gaza. Its open areas, along with the existing infrastructure, can easily host large-scale development projects that, if led by the Chinese and supported by local labor, for example, can easily mature in just one to two years.

Firm American and international guidance lined with financial and operative support can surely pave the way to this creative and prosperous solution and jointly help Egypt’s dire demographic and economic situation that is challenging its political authority. Israel will also be cooperative in sharing its hi-tech-oriented agricultural capabilities with Egypt as it did following the Peace Treaty in the early 1980s.

If Egypt bravely chooses to change its rigid, old-fashioned policy of keeping Palestinian Gazans in constant distress and consents to such an endeavor, its geopolitical gains will be threefold: It will be hailed by the international community as the savior of the dire plight of Gazans; it will strengthen its status as a leader of the Arab world; and it will finally fulfill its 30+-year-old plan to settle the Sinai and strengthen its control of this zone.

However, history has taught us that Gazans, despite their complaints about their humanitarian situation, may object towards genuine rehabilitation programs. This stubbornness substantially relies on their desire to destroy Israel, which repeatedly comes at their own expense. The ongoing obliteration of Hamas, which terrorizes Palestinian Authority officials and many Gaza residents, may pave the way to the emergence of the proposed Sinai solution, if presented in a wise and discrete manner that conforms to the Middle East mentality.

The writer is a geologist and geographer, and a faculty member of the Department of Geography and Environment at Bar-Ilan University. 

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  1. Besides for Trump’s mercurial nature why I am leery of him towards Israel in a second term are the following:

    But his comments following the Oct. 7 attacks have raised eyebrows. He has described Hezbollah, an Iran-backed terrorist group, as “very smart,” and he was critical of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu immediately after the attacks

    https://thehill.com/policy/international/4304401-trump-israel-hamas-war-let-things-play-out/

    Haley and DeSantis clearly support Israel. Does Trump in the future? We know he did in the past.

  2. Trump will not turn on Israel. Even if his relationship with Bibi is strained, Trump’s base is pro Israel, except for a few white nationalist weirdos who got lost and don’t know where they are. I watch Monkeywerx and NY Prepper on Youtube, Christian Zionists, and if you read their comments section, you will have no doubt that Trump’s people love Israel and Jews.

  3. @Peloni you did not answer the question will Trump (if he becomes POTUS again) turn on Israel if Bibi is PM? Kindly answer the question!

    Perhaps you are dodging the question because you are also very leery that Trump will not support Israel if Bibi is still PM!!!!!! So you are trying to justify Trump’s future behavior towards Israel?

  4. @Bear

    He turns on allies, friends and people like Bibi clearly acting in the best interests of Israel.

    Actually, Bibi provided the fraud with a great deal of legitimization in the early hours of the contested election, potentially influencing people who might have otherwise approached, judged or investigated the claims that the illegitimate election was not systemically illegitimate. In fact, it was not Bibi’s position to weigh into the election at all nor the post election fallout, and he should have awaited the results of the election contest which was raised on the night of the election as the fraud was evident for all to see. By not doing so, he made it difficult for other nations to not follow his lead. After all, who more than Bibi had paralleled Trump’s journey of abuse by the Deep State’s lawfare tactics. With this in mind, if Bibi could certify the election as legitimate enough to endorse its outcomes without awaiting the official results, which are certified as decided on the Safe Harbor date, who might be so brazen as to not accept the fraudulent results as a fait accompli on November 8. Notably, there were some who did wait, and Mexico’s president was among those who withstood the demand that he follow the lead of Bibi and others whose support helped establish the atmosphere of normality around an election which was completely illegitimate.

    You say that Bibi acted in Israel’s best interest while he actually lent support to an antisemite, leading an antisemitic party, which had antisemitic goon squads roaming the US beating Jews and looting Jewish neighborhoods, albeit not exclusively of course. Indeed, he made a decision that Trump would not be successful in his election challenge a month before that challenge was made, and THAT was NOT his decision to make.

    Just as Bibi stated, “leave me out of it” with regards to Trump running in the 2024 election, this should have been his position regarding the yet decided election result. As I noted, the votes were not yet counted in the contested election and the safe harbor date was still a month away. and, as Trump noted, Bibi was very early to make the decision that the election outcome was decided, and in an election where the result was not contested, it would of course have been routine to make such a decision. Yet Bibi knew that Trump had not conceded and would be challenging the election results within the month.

    By the way, this is not an attempt to justify Trump’s anger, but a rational observation that foreign leaders should not lend their support for contested election results prior to those results being both complete and certified.

  5. @Peloni

    Quote

    “@Felix

    I challenge you to show me where I associated Trump with Antisemitism.

    I said indeed the opposite.

    Well you just stated that

    Trump could copy the German Fascists”.

    I am tired of you taking a text and excising selectively to present the exact opposite meaning

    In my book that is lying

    So I have drawn my conclusions and they are most firm.

  6. @SebastienZorn

    Quote

    “@Felix “You guys are the greatest liars and the greatest falsifiers. I think on Earth”

    Is that like

    Barnum and Bailey Circus, Greatest Show on Earth?

    Could we sell tickets? ?

    And, what about outside of Earth?

    Could we capture alien audiences?

    What’s the exchange rate on Marsestine these days?”

    End Quote

    Not at all.

    Really it is about being lied about.

  7. @Peloni
    Quote
    “Perhaps you mean something other than you are writing, because I have discussed your specific comments quite carefully, and you have yet to do more than make generalizations that my responses are lies.

    In point of fact, I am glad to hear that you are not suggesting that Trump is or will become a antisemite, but your comparisons to Hitler/Nazis/German fascists do not make this clear.

    So, since you are not saying that Trump is destined to follow the path of the Hitler/Nazis/German fascists, what is it you have been trying to say?”

    End quote

    Let me inform you that I mean what I write and I write what I mean

    Nor have I been “trying” to make certain points…as you put it. My points were very clear.

    It is you who has problems with reading and comprehension.

    It is not my fault concerning your lack of comprehension skills.

    My writing was extremely clear.

    If you chose to ignore what I wrote then there ain’t a lot I can do about that.

    Moreover I do not think I SHOULD DO

    It’s not my job to explain to an adult ideas that are extremely well expressed.

    Rather I have been forced to face reality. You were not accidentally but wilfully lying.

    You still have not shown where in anything I wrote that I associated Trump with Antisemitism.

    That was the central thing that 3 others and yourself were making.

    You cannot win here Peloni because I know what I said and I know that you have lied.

  8. @Felix “You guys are the greatest liars and the greatest falsifiers. I think on Earth”

    Is that like

    Barnum and Bailey Circus, Greatest Show on Earth?

    Could we sell tickets? 😀

    And, what about outside of Earth?

    Could we capture alien audiences?

    What’s the exchange rate on Marsestine these days?

  9. @Peloni, the important question is if Bibi is still PM if Trump becomes POTUS again will he still support Israel? Since all things are so personal (and he offends so easily) with Trump I am very leery that he will not support Israel in a second term, if Bibi is still PM.

    What do you think will Trump still support Israel in a second term? Especially if his daughter and son-law do not join a new administration.

  10. @Readef They were all books with sexual content. When I was growng upin New York City in the 60s and 70s, we had no access to such books.

  11. @Felix

    I challenge you to show me where I associated Trump with Antisemitism.

    I said indeed the opposite.

    Well you just stated that

    Trump could copy the German Fascists

    Are you specifying the German fascists to mean someone other than the Nazis who are the quintessential antisemites of the 20th century? or are you using the comparison to ‘German fascists’ for some other purpose.

    Perhaps you mean something other than you are writing, because I have discussed your specific comments quite carefully, and you have yet to do more than make generalizations that my responses are lies.

    In point of fact, I am glad to hear that you are not suggesting that Trump is or will become a antisemite, but your comparisons to Hitler/Nazis/German fascists do not make this clear.

    So, since you are not saying that Trump is destined to follow the path of the Hitler/Nazis/German fascists, what is it you have been trying to say?

  12. You guys are the greatest liars and the greatest falsifiers. I think on Earth.

    I challenge you to show me where I associated Trump with Antisemitism.

    I said indeed the opposite.

    You make it up as you go along.

    Really no shame.

    But I did say that Trump could copy the German Fascists, Biden could also , I mean the whole ruling capitalist class and in conditions of great economic collapse, virus attack and global warming chaos, would be driven outside of parliament and could create Fascism in America.

  13. @Bear

    Trump decided it was beyond the pale that Bibi congratulated Biden when he officially won the Presidency.

    Actually, Bibi congratulated Biden on November 8, less than five days after polls were closed, while votes were still being counted, and over one month before the safe harbor date in a contested election. As Trump said, “He was very early, like earlier than most.”

  14. @Felix

    And as I said in my massively lied about comments, by Peloni and Sebastien Zorn,

    There were no lies shared in response to your silly comparison of Trump/MAGA to Hitler/Nazism. Yet since you disagree, please detail the ‘lies’ you claim were made in either mine or Sebastien’s response. I’ll wait.

  15. @Reader

    You pose the question

    “I don’t know how many Chinese Mao killed, I do know that under Mao the Chinese population nearly doubled.”

    I doubt this person making the claim would have any idea.

    He will have heard all kinds of lying garbage which is rife in both American capitalist parties

    And he just spews out the garbage.
    Likely he has independently researched nothing.

    That is why I think America can go the way of Fascism.

    And as I said in my massively lied about comments, by Peloni and Sebastien Zorn, a massive economic crisis would likely be the trigger.

    Whatever party or coalition of parties would be “controlling” things!

  16. @Reader, I support Trump. This jeffbalb is repeating propaganda. There is not the slightest bit of evidence that Trump is like Hitler. It’s just a silly meme that some credulous people believe. BTW, politics aside, how did Trump live in New York City and socialize and do business with all those New York Jews? I lived in NYC in the good old days when New York was very Jewish, and if Trump were a closet antisemite, he wouldn’t even have wanted to live there.

  17. I found this comment on another website (several days ago):

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/florida-district-pulls-many-jewish-and-holocaust-books-from-classroom-libraries/?utm_campaign=most_popular&utm_source=website&utm_medium=article_end&utm_content=6

    jeffbalb
    1 day ago
    I’m not Jewish but I can tell you the US is Germany in 1938 now. It isn’t safe to be a minority here, especially a jewish minority. It amazes me how many American Jews support Trump. I’ve read a lot of history, it reminds me of “Jews for Hitler.

  18. @ketzel2

    I don’t know how many Chinese Mao killed, I do know that under Mao the Chinese population nearly doubled.

    Besides, even if Mao killed more Chinese than Nazis killed anyone (which I doubt), does it make the Nazis look good?

  19. @Sebastien Zorn

    Please give examples of dictatorships that killed far more people than Nazi Germany (except for the USSR because these numbers are inventions of the Western historians).

    Nazis are people who want to see all Jews killed. That’s what a Nazi is. Nothing else.

    I disagree because this definition implies that if the Nazis were not antisemitic, they could be considered good guys.

    For your information, the Nazis’ crimes involve a lot more than trying to kill all the Jews (which is a crime unique in itself, of course), and the crimes of Germany as a whole in the first half of the 20th century are unique in their scope in the history of mankind.

    The Turks tried to kill all the Armenians in 1915 and succeeded in killing of ~50% of them (the other 50% were lucky to be on the Russian territory, and the Russian army threw out the invading Turks) – when Turkey had German soldiers on its territory who witnessed the deportations.

  20. Egyptians by the way have always opposed large amounts of Gazans living in the Sinai. They have a hard enough time in controlling the Sinai without more terrorists being moved the Sinai. As said before this is also potentially dangerous for Israel.

    I also do not want large amounts of Gazans or any Palestinians moving to Jordan as it is potentially dangerous for Israel in both the short term or long term.

  21. Trump has always had Jewish friends and close advisors. Trump was the POTUS who did the most for Israel. Comments from anyone that Trump is a NAZI are plain erroneous and made to sensational someone’s dislike for Trump.

    Trump is no antisemite either as some claim. Yes he does throw Jews under the bus occasionally as a group while not watching his usage of words. He does speak bluntly and not with great refine on many occasions.

    Trump is my third choice on the GOP ticket after Haley and DeSantis. Trump will likely win the nomination if he wins the first few primaries and maybe become POTUS again if he does not get convicted of any serious charges. He is ahead in the polls but there is a year to go and a large percentage of those responding in some polls are undecided.

    Trump is not my favorite for various reasons (e.g. throwing his advisors and allies under the bus, chaotic management style, disloyalty to allies like the Kurds) but he is way better than Biden, who is a complete disaster for the USA.

    Curious if Trump will treat Israel as well if Bibi is still PM when Trump takes office. Trump decided it was beyond the pale that Bibi congratulated Biden when he officially won the Presidency.

  22. First reply still in moderation in which I quoted Hitler’s first essay from the Jewish virtual library in 1919 in which he called for a scientific antisemitism to get rid of all the Jews as a race. I prefer substantiated comments instead of unsupported assertions and hyperbole. Don’t you?

  23. @Felix I will say this. If you think you are going to get any traction among Jews by carelessly throwing around loaded terms like, “Hitler’ and “Nazi” to describe anybody you don’t like, you have miscalculated.

    Particularly 2nd generation Holocaust survivors like me.

    Hamas and its supporters are Nazis. Nazis are people who want to see all Jews killed. That’s what a Nazi is. Nothing else.

    Mussolini invented fascism and wasn’t antisemitic until the late 30s, and there have been many dictatorships that committed mass murder and even genocide and conquered other countries and that killed far more people than Nazi Germany.

    Hitler and his minions murdered 6 million Jews.

    Hamas and Fatah are Nazis.
    The Iranian Mullahs are Nazis.
    Farakhan is a Nazi.
    The “Black Hebrews” or whatever who murdered Jews in Monsey NY and New Jersey are Nazis.
    Robert Bowers is a Nazi.
    The Muslim Brotherhood are Nazis.
    jihadist Muslims are Nazis.
    The Grand Mufti was a Nazi and so his his movement.

    Hamas and those who sympathize with it are Nazis.
    the 18 to 24 year olds who said Oct. 7 was genocide and who said in the same poll that they agree with it are Nazis.
    The demonstrators shouting, “from the river to the sea” and “gas the Jews” are Nazis.

    Nazis murder Jews. That’s it. End of story.

    There’s two kinds of Nazis, the good ones and the ones who are still breathing.

    To put it in biblical terms:

    They are Amalek.

    Got it? Good.

  24. My reply disappeared when I hit enter.

    @Felix
    The upshot was: a) HItler wanted to get rid of all Jews from the beginning. Trump has been just the opposite.

    b) Nazism isn’t just fascism. It’s fascism plus kill all the Jews. Hamas are Nazis.

    c) What your are doing amounts to Holocaust Denial. Nothing other then the “Final Solution” the industrialized murder of 6 million Jews distinguishes Hitler from other mass-murdering conquerors.

    d) Mussolini defined fascism as “everything within the state, nothing outside the state.”

    e) He actually implemented the same “Bismarckian “New Deal” that Roosevelt did. He was a socialist.

    f)Trump, Republicans and American conservatives generally, are free-marketeers.

    g) You are trying to evoke outrage by calling what you oppose Nazism to piggyback on the horror that name still generates though this generation has forgotten why but all it does in the end is provoke yawns and then the real Nazis come out of the woodwork.

    All the 18 to 24 year olds who say , Oct. 7 was genocide against the Jews, but that it was a good thing.

  25. @Feilx

    “You make another needless point aiming to cloud powerful discussion.”

    No, that is what you are doing. Re-read my comment which I finished after your comments.

    I was explaining how such a movement as MAGA could become a Fascist party “

    No, there is nothing inherently antisemitic about fascism. Mussolini was no antisemite until the late ’30s when he became dependent on Hitler.

    What you are doing is minimizing the Holocaust which is the latest form of Holocaust Denial.

    It is what the New York Times did during the Holocaust by printing stories about its unfolding in the back pages surrounded by other atrocity stories from other places.

    Moreover, as Peloni pointed out, “National Socialism” was a socialist movement founded by a former 2nd generation leader of the Italian Socialist Party!

    Mussolini, who coined the term, defined it as: “Everything within the state, nothing outside the state.”

    That is not Trump or any Republican. Just the opposite.

  26. @Felix

    If people do not want to discuss the strategy of the Nazis especially Hitler in their seizure of power,

    Well this in fact is the point. Hitler did seize power. Neither Trump nor MAGA have. In fact, Hitler’s rise to power included a relative parliamentary victory followed by a False Flag seizure of power and supported by the German Judiciary. Contrasting with this, yet again, Trump won a massive absolute victory, lost power after a False Flag was committed against him, and was not supported by the American Judiciary.

    Based on ideology militantly opposed to science, extreme nationalism, gun culture, will lie to order, savage distorters as seen in their falsification of Global Warming and virus origen, extreme hatred of Communism and hiding (very consciously) usually an explanation of Stalinism.

    Let us look at these one at a time.

    Based on ideology militantly opposed to science

    Actually, MAGA is not opposed to science, just science hoaxes, such as Covid and the notion that Climategate is anything other than a shell-game used to manipulate and tax the public into submission.

    extreme nationalism

    The failure of the world to recognize the necessity of nationalism as a form of identity and not a toxic element of destruction is the foundation for much of the ills of the world today. Hitler’s claim of being a nationalist was vitiated by his desire to conquer the world. In other words, his nationalist claims were actually international in design. As he opposed the Soviet’s attempts to seize Germany, he ALWAYS espoused a policy of world conquest which defies nationalist goals. If nationalism is a love of country, its history, its culture, and its borders, how is Germany’s hope of eliminating borders, of changing its culture, and embarking on mass murder supportive of any national goals. Contrasting with this, neither Trump nor MAGA have any interest in military adventurisms, as I explained previously. Many have explained Trump’s position as anti-war, yet I would disagree with this, as it distorts his position to be one of a pacifist which neither he nor MAGA represent. Rather they hold to the MAGA notion that war, like business, should be employed to make America stronger, more responsible, more independent, none of which includes, supports, nor even tolerates the notions of world conquest which Hitler’s Nazism was entirely founded upon achieving.

    gun culture

    “Gun culture” was opposed by the Nazis. MAGA supports universal gun rights for all people, while the Nazi’s supported gun rights for the Nazi’s alone. Notably, gun rights present a deterrence against totalitarian govts, not the contrary.

    savage distorters as seen in their falsification of Global Warming and virus origen

    These unscientific canards are not science based but science manipulation aimed at empowering the nation towards illiberal tyrannies. Much as the notion of ‘pure blood’ Aryans, this fake science is being used to institute tyranny over the US and the world.

    extreme hatred of Communism

    This is not actually fairly described as being similar between the Nazis and MAGA. Hitler envied the Communists, and wanted to replace the Communist world conquest model with his own. Like the Communists, Hitler used street violence as a form of political action, aimed specifically at imposing political capture on society. Also, the Nazi’s entire economic model was fashioned upon wealth transfer, first from the Jews, and later from conquered nations. MAGA, rather than wanting to emulate Communists in any way, simply opposes their desire to world domination, street violence, and wealth transfer.

    hiding (very consciously) usually an explanation of Stalinism

    These words make no sense to me, so you can explain further if you care to do so.

    MAGA, and Trump’s leadership of the movement, are in no way similar to Hitler and his Nazis. Actually, MAGA is the antidote to such illiberal movements as both Nazism and Communism.

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  27. Sebastien

    Trump like Biden is a fanatic for American Imperialism.

    The danger of Fascism comes from that!

    Your other points are spurious as everyone by now should know. Do I have to repeat things?

  28. Sebastien…who is arguing. You make another needless point aiming to cloud powerful discussion.

    I was explaining how such a movement as MAGA could become a Fascist party and I gave reasons too.

  29. Sebastien the joker distorted strikes again

    “Oh, God, not this again”

    The not this again reference is my often attempts to draw lessons out of the forerunner to the Holocaust, the about 2000 Pogroms in Ukraine in which about 150,000 Jews the most innocent and humble of people, were murdered.

  30. @Felix Mussolini invented fascism not Hitler. There were a number of authoritarian regimes that came into power right after WWI. Hungary was probably the first. They all murdered a lot of people.

    Hitler invented the “Final Solution”. That’s the only thing that distinguishes HItler.

    The only reason people like you like to invoke Hitler is to piggyback on the horror his name invokes.

    But, then people lose their horror. Boy who cried wolf syndrome.

    And then the real Nazis come out of the woodwork as we’ve seen.

    And how do you know real Nazis from fake?

    They’re coming for the Jews. And they say so from the beginning.

    Trump is a philo-semite and he loves Israel. And he’s no racist of any kind as his actions have proven.

    There never was a time that you could have said that about Hitler. who saw the world through the lens of race and was obsessed with getting rid of the Jews from the beginning. But, he saw himself as a scientific antisemite. The term, “antisemite”, coined by Wilhelm Marr in 1879, had replaced the older term, “Jew hatred” because it wasn’t religious but imbued it with 19th century pseudo-science..

    Hitler wrote, in 1919:

    “Antisemitism as a political movement may not and cannot be defined by emotional impulses, but by recognition of the facts. The facts are these: First, Jewry is absolutely a race and not a religious association. …The deduction from all this is the following: an antisemitism based on purely emotional grounds will find its ultimate expression in the form of the pogrom.[1] An antisemitism based on reason, however, must lead to systematic legal combating and elimination of the privileges of the Jews, that which distinguishes the Jews from the other aliens who live among us (an Aliens Law). The ultimate objective [of such legislation] must, however, be the irrevocable removal of the Jews in general.
    ‘For both these ends a government of national strength, not of national weakness, is necessary.”–

    Sources: Eberhard Jäckel (ed.), Hitler. Sämtliche Aufzeichnungen 1905­1924. (Stuttgart, 1980), pp. 88­90. Translated by Richard S. Levy; H-German Web Site

    [1] Pogrom in Russian means devastation. Until recently, the term described exclusively the organized or spontaneous massacres of Jews. In Russia the worst pogroms occurred in 1881, 1903, 1905, and during the civil war following the Revolution of 1917 in areas controlled by the anti­Bolshevik White armies, especially the Ukraine.

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/adolf-hitler-s-first-anti-semitic-writing


    Nazis want to get rid of all Jews as a race, physically. They say so and they act on it. That’s what defines a Nazi.

  31. Peloni and Vivarto

    I had made a few serious comments

    I think this is the one you are talking about

    Far more study needed on how Hitler acted after his early release from prison in Landsberg. Especially the stage of Nazism following the economic crisis 1929. From then till 1933 he rowed back on Antisemitism and was like 95 per cent focussed on anti Bolshevism. Very factual info in Rees, THE HOLOCAUST A NEW HISTORY from revolution to ballot box…on this. Note how Trump rightwing are a near copy of this (stage)… Some represented on this very site.

    I think Fascism in America will come out of this MAGA movement despite the Democratic Party being ultra Imperialist. It has many unique features very similar to the Nazi movement. Based on ideology militantly opposed to science, extreme nationalism, gun culture, will lie to order, savage distorters as seen in their falsification of Global Warming and virus origen, extreme hatred of Communism and hiding (very consciously) usually an explanation of Stalinism.

    Not Antisemitism or hatred of Israel as the Jewish state though because the righteous Christian is a factor in this party.

    Hitler came out of prison in December 1925 and for many years stopped mentioning Jews in speeches. Others did though.

    Hitler was preparing for seizure of power which he did in 1933. And the majority of Germans in 1925 DID NOT support his extreme Antisemitism.

    What caterpaulted the Nazis to power was the economic crisis following the 1929 Crash.

    Who would bet on those conditions of economic crash not repeating in the period ahead, especially in America?

    And you already have the personality worship factor.

    And one other big one. The working class, the antithesis of Big Capital, IS totally leaderless

    There I have explained in far more detail while you simply twisted everything up and ignored every point I made.

    If people do not want to discuss the strategy of the Nazis especially Hitler in their seizure of power, and if you discard all the writings of Trotsky, then I say those people have to be exposed. That’s you.

    It is a huge issue.

  32. @Felix

    Lenin and Trotsky…Antisemitism not acceptable

    @Peloni

    Trump has been a great friend to the Jews,

    So, Trump must be the greatest Trotskyist leader of our time, right?

    Thesis, antithesis, synthesis. How ’bout them dialectics? 😀

    Or alternatively,

    Oh, God, not this again. 😀

  33. @Felix

    Lenin and Trotsky leading the Red Army fought with firstly words

    Antisemitism not acceptable

    This is a silly point of comparison. By this standard anyone who might aid the Jews or fight the scourge of antisemitism might be waylaid with the comparison to Hitler. Trump has been a great friend to the Jews, even amidst great difficulties raised against him by a great percentage of his own domestic Jewish population. Yet he raise Israel to great heights by allowing her to rise under her own efforts. He also provided extended protections for the US Jewry, again despite the troubles which the Jewish leadership in the US consistently and unfairly applied against him. Hence, even as no nations have friends, it should still be considered a real and definitively true fact that Trump was a very good friend to Israel and is in no way tied to the path of Hitler in changing this position. Trump’s own grand children have Jewish blood, and his favorite child is herself an orthodox Jew. Let us be reasonable, fair, and honest and stop abusing this great man who was a great champion for our people. Doing otherwise would only characterize us poorly for our efforts to demonize a very good, close and important ally.

  34. @Felix
    Your comparison of Trump to Hitler is absurd. There is not the slightest comparison to be made. In fact, Hitler was a Leftist, a National SOCIALIST, who stole the wealth of others to serve the needs of his fantasies, whereas Trump is the most conservative leader the US has arguably ever had whose source of revenues was to improve the economy and provide high paying jobs for the people. There is no aim to make war upon the world in Trump’s actions or policies, yet this was the full objective of Hitler’s foreign policies. Trump did not target, persecute, or annihilate his minorities, but rather, he funded their success, provided previously unknown protections to some (the Jews), and always sought their company and support, all of which contrasts sharply with Hitler. Trump was defrauded of the power of a second overwhelming election victory, while Hitler NEVER won any election victory, having never come to even half the votes nor even close to half the votes of any election. Also, Trump never committed any crimes whereas Hitler certainly did. The only thread which supports your fantasized comparison is that Trump was manipulated into giving up powers which Hitler never had.

  35. Vivarto

    Learn a key lesson from history

    In 1918 in Ukraine there was happening 2000 Pogroms

    Lenin and Trotsky leading the Red Army fought with firstly words

    Antisemitism not acceptable

    I learn from this words and expressed thoughts ARE important

    And they won in the end over the Antisemitists

    Now just start by saying Living along with Arabs not acceptable and we Jews cannot do it.

    Do not underestimate this step.

    To Vivarto

  36. The most succinct critique of this “give them stuff and they’ll be happy and won’t bother us” is that it’s not true, and the focus should be not on making them happy but to defang them. How to do this? There are many ways, but the main thing is, they must not have any power or self determination anywhere. So if they have a territory, they shouldn’t be in charge of it. China is the only country that understands this, but the West can do the same thing but with humane conditions.

  37. This author thinks the Palestinian problem is that they don’t have enough resources, opportunities, etc. He can easily be enlightened by looking at the behavior of Palestinians in Western countries, the mobs on the streets nowadays. Those people don’t lack for opportunities. Many of them are attending American elite universities and being placed in important positions in government and media. Does that make them any less toxic?

    People like Roskin shouldn’t even be taken seriously if they write from a position of the Freudian defense of hysterical blindness. Moving Gazans to Sinai, America, or wherever, and giving them greenhouses, television stations, 5 star hotels and teddy bears, won’t ever make them good neighbors. The only solution starts from realizing that.

  38. Far more study needed on how Hitler acted after his early release from prison in Landsberg. Especially the stage of Nazism following the economic crisis 1929. From then till 1933 he rowed back on Antisemitism and was like 95 per cent focussed on anti Bolshevism. Very factual info in Rees, THE HOLOCAUST A NEW HISTORY from revolution to ballot box…on this. Note how Trump rightwing are a near copy of this (stage)… Some represented on this very site.

  39. Many are not taking on board that there is not unlimited time. There’s the issue of a long process to defeat Hamas, and a scientific study will show, that removing Arabs is part of it. To defeat Hamas you remove Arabs. Not another way. That’s my opposition to ALL Israeli leaders. The key concept to grasp and not let go of. And the Iran nuclear bomb is pressing issue.

  40. Sinai does not work except for a small amount of Gazans. To close to Israel and very potentially dangerous. Egypt has no money and the Sinai has no resources. Disperse the Gazans in several Arab countries and Muslim countries in Africa.

  41. @Chanah Good point. The best solution is for them to be dispersed among many countries, countries without Jews. Nearly all the Jews in the world live in a handful of countries. There are 195 countries in the world. Among them countries that took in millions, tens of millions of refugees from other conflicts though of course, Egypt as a temporary transit point is the most practical route though Gaza also has ports. Muslims tend only to behave themselves when they feel themselves to be a small, powerless minority, following Mohammed’s example, Azerbaijan, Albania, and Kazakhstan being notable exceptions. And, of course, the Pirhanastinians are especially dangerous.

  42. Why do we think a long border between Israel and the new Hamastan won’t bring about the same border war? Why wouldn’t Hamas continue to lob missiles over the longer border line? They could probably reach more targets in Israel than they can from tiny Gaza. Nope, they must be moved far away from any place there are Jews.

  43. Palestinians are Arab hillbillies, than no nation, arab or otherwise should want in their midst. Containment is the only solution.

    And choke off any and all aid. Let them sink or swim, all on their own. If Jews could take a piece of sand and make it lush, there is no reason, other than stupidity, that Palestinian could not do the same.

    They are a lot like Quebecers, benefitting from whining vs industriousness