What is the rationale for recognizing the non-existent state of Palestine.

By Caroline Glick

The New York Times online debating forum Room For Debate asked me to participate in an online forum regarding the rationale for recognizing the non-existent state of Palestine.

Here’s what I wrote:

rally ukWhen Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Lofven announced his decision to recognize the non-existent state of “Palestine” earlier this month, he inadvertently gave the game away.

Lofven said, “A two-state solution requires mutual recognition and a will to peaceful coexistence. Sweden will therefore recognize the State of Palestine.”

The Palestinians refuse to recognize or peacefully coexist with the State of Israel.

Like his coalition partner Hamas terror master Khaled Mashaal, and despite his sweet talk to Western audiences, PLO chief Mahmoud Abbas  has pledged,repeatedly, over decades that he will never, ever recognize Israel. During his speech to the UN General Assembly last month he reverted to PLO language from the 1970s, referring to Israel repeatedly as “the occupying Power,” and “the racist occupying State.”

So when Lofven recognized “Palestine,” he joined the Palestinian campaign to destroy Israel. He used the language of the “two-state solution,” to reject the Jewish state.

Former British foreign minister and Labor MP Jack Straw went a step further this week as he addressed his Parliament before its lopsided 274-12 vote to recognize “Palestine.”

The vote, he explained, was not about advancing peace. It was a straightforward bid to harm Israel.

In his words, “The only thing that the Israeli government…understands is pressure.”

Lofven, Straw and their colleagues throughout Europe aren’t stupid. They know what they’re doing.

They know that Gaza, which Israel vacated nine years ago, is a terror state run by the genocidal jihadists of Hamas.

They know that if Israel succumbs to their political and economic warfare and cedes its capital city and historic heartland to its enemies, it will be unable to defend its remaining territory.

And they know that like Gaza, those areas will quickly be taken over by Hamas, which will use them to launch a war of annihilation against Israel in conjunction with its jihadist brethren in surrounding states.

In other words, they know that in recognizing “Palestine” they are not helping the cause of peace. They are advancing Israel’s ruin.

If they were even remotely interested in freedom and peace, the Europeans would be doing the opposite. They would be working to strengthen and expand Israel, the only stable zone of freedom and peace in the region.

They would abandon the phony two-state solution, which as Straw and Lofven revealed is merely doublespeak for seeking Israel’s destruction and its replacement with a terror state.

With strategic blindness and moral depravity now serving as the twin guideposts for European policy towards Israel, Israel and its supporters must tell the truth about the push to recognize “Palestine.”

It isn’t about peace or justice. It’s about hating Israel and assisting those who most actively seek its obliteration.

Originally published in The New York Times. 

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  1. @ honeybee:

    “Never learned phonics, I have problems hearing sounds”

    What does the audiologist have to say about that?

    “my typing skills lack.”

    There are online exercises (and courses) galore.

    “Say what” about what? Got a reading problem?

    “You should be arrested for the unrelenting manner in which you torcher the English language.”

    Better to “torcher” it than to torch it.

  2. @ yamit82:

    “There is no good without bad/no such animal as evil in Jewish thought it’s more like like Ying&Yang…

    “You don’t believe that gnostic poppycock any more than I do. Evil is real; you can’t intellectualize it away.”

    “Eastern understanding got it. You essentially christian Greeks didn’t”

    “The very fact that you keep constantly (desperately) trying to define me as ‘other’ is as close to proof positive as one can COME to showing that YOU don’t ‘get’ that nonduality bilgewater any more than the “essentially christian Greeks” did. You just misapply it — only in a different way from how they misapplied it.”

    “Never occurred to you that’s it’s you who has misapplied it and not me.”

    Nope, never did. I’m very sure of myself in that department. (Drives you batty, doesn’t it, that assuredness?)

    “Then that would destroy the whole house of cards you have built for yourself…”

    It certainly would, if I HAD built for myself such a house of cards. But what you don’t get is that I don’t do the building. What building may be done is not my doing. (Just can’t conceive of that, can you?)

    “About correcting errors in syntax or spelling in others comments or submitted and posted texts,, Let’s face it you can’t help yourself.

    Of course I can. Have you any idea, any CLUE, just how much syntactical & other compositional garbage I ignore in a single day???

    These comments about my ‘corrections’ are stupid. You’re just looking for scars, and coming up with diddly shit — throwing at the wall everything you can find, fabricate, or finagle (and hoping something’ll stick) — and you know it.

    — And the very fact that you’ve been driven to resorting to this rinky-dink, mickey-mouse crap is telling evidence that you’re scraping the bottom of the barrel in your desperate quest. . . .

    OCD!!!

    Keep guessing. . . . Your wild stabs in the dark are a thorough-going gale of giggles.

  3. Most people do not comprehen what being the “Chosen People” means nor do most Jews.

    The Jewish people were chosen for a specific reason: The status of being collectively Chosen means that G-d’s Plan for Humanity will be made manifest and will be implemented through the Jewish people — both the righteous ones and the evil ones.

    “And when they came into the nations, whither they came, they profaned My Holy Name, in that the nations said concerning them: These are the people of the L-rd and they are driven forth from the land! But I had pity for My Holy Name which the House of Israel profaned among the nations whither they came. Therefore say unto the House of Israel: Thus saith the L-rd, G-d: I do this not for your sake O House of Israel, but for My Holy Name… And I will sanctify My great Name which hath been profaned among the nations which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the nations shall know that I am the L-rd, saith the L-rd, G-d, WHEN I SHALL BE SANCTIFIED THROUGH YOU BEFORE THEIR EYES. For I will take you from among the nations and gather you out of all the countries and will bring you into your own land.” (Ezekiel 36)

    However, the status of being collectively Chosen also means that, collectively, the gentile nations will eventually suffer G-d’s Wrath when they join together to oppress the Jewish nation (see Genesis 12:3; Numbers 24:8-9; Deuteronomy 32:43; Isaiah 59:17-19; Jeremiah 2:3; Ezekiel 38:3 – 39:6; Joel 4:1-2; and Zechariah 14:2-13).

    There is a famous story in which the Kaiser asks Bismarck, “Can you prove the existence of God?” Bismarck replies, “The Jews, your majesty. The Jews.”

  4. @ honeybee:

    Always loved these lyrics as well!!!!!!

    May God bless and keep you always
    May your wishes all come true
    May you always do for others
    And let others do for you
    May you build a ladder to the stars
    And climb on every rung
    May you stay forever young
    May you stay forever young.

    May you grow up to be righteous
    May you grow up to be true
    May you always know the truth
    And see the lights surrounding you
    May you always be courageous
    Stand upright and be strong
    May you stay forever young
    May you stay forever young.

    May your hands always be busy
    May your feet always be swift
    May you have a strong foundation
    When the winds of changes shift
    May your heart always be joyful
    And may your song always be sung
    May you stay forever young
    May you stay forever young.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhxBwYkxlXs

  5. @ honeybee:

    An Introduction to Edenics
    By Isaac Mozeson (www.edenics.org)

    “I will restore to the peoples a pure language, that they may call upon the name of the Lord to serve him with one consent.” – Zephaniah 3:9

    If the link between the ear and the sense of balance is a relatively recent medical discovery, why is it that the ancient Hebrew language has the same linguistic root for both words? Science fiction, or science fact? Is Hebrew the first human language?

    Only Hebrew language dynamics with its built-in synonym and antonym system explains why LeaF and FoLio (LF=FL) mean the same, or why a person who knows Hebrew well can fully understand English, Basque or Swahili.

    The majesty of Hebrew is only faintly visible in its offspring. Yet, some continue to maintain that most words are random, meaningless symbols which evolved from your basic caveman grunting.

    Hebrew, with its right brain/left brain neurological keyboard demonstrates that Greek and Latin are merely grandparents, while Hebrew is the common ancestor, the original computing language of our biological random access memory, which was scrambled during the output stage by the Master Prog rammer (Tower of Babel story in Genesis).

    The Hebrew they don’t teach you in Hebrew school

    What does that mean? Quite simply, that Hebrew didn’t develop through evolution. Someone consciously created Hebrew words by adding a third letter to the two-letter root cells (such as making n-sh-k from the n-sh root cell). What’s more, this means that our “caveman grammarian” had the alphabet at his disposal when creating words, whereas the normal process is the opposite: alphabets crystallize from spoken languages. The presence of the alphabet means that Hebrew was a written language from the beginning; it did not pass through the standard stage of being a spoken-only language.

    Hebrew did not appear from nowhere. Its concepts are traceable to the Ancient Egyptian and proto-Semitic. But at some point someone built a new language on the basis of those. The language was not for Jews only: Moabites used it, too. The language wasn’t static, but continuously evolved along the preset grammatical rules. But it couldn’t have appeared naturally.

    The Hebrew has yet another way of forming roots: concatenation. Simply, a root xyz would be made of xy+yz root cells. Such a process is also anything but natural evolution of language.

    “The Hebrew language is possibly the greatest available weapon against leftists. Think of this carefully. If you need proof of God, this is it.”

  6. The bottom line is this, and if you haven’t figured it out by now, you are simply blind. The world is led by a bunch of hypocrites. They condemn Israel, yet use our technology to bring water to poor countries. They trash Israel at every opportunity possible, yet use our inventions in the field of medicine, telecommunications, computers and in saving time in traffic with WAZE. Israel has become an “ATM PIN CUSHION”, a devise into which you stick pins and hurt the machine yet – whenever you need – you use that same machine to give you as much cash as you need!

    However, like most of our problems, I blame ourselves and not Ismail Haniyeh. He is laughing at Israel, which gladly accepts and treats his sick daughter. We are the problem – not him!

    Quoted from an excellent article written by shmuel sackett
    The Hospital That Doesn’t Exist: By Shmuel Sackett

    http://www.jewishisrael.org/category/issues/articles/by-shmuel-sackett/

  7. dweller Said:

    incompetent teacher

    Never learned phonics, I have problems hearing sounds, and my typing skills lack.

    dweller Said:

    “Say what” about what? Got a reading problem?

    You should be arrested for the unrelenting manner in which you torcher the English language.

  8. dweller Said:

    You just misapply it — only in a different way from how they misapplied it.

    Never occurred to you that’s it’s you who has misapplied it and not me. Then that would destroy the whole house of cards you have built for yourself and you could never allow that to happen consciously.

    About correcting errors in syntax or spelling in others comments or submitted and posted texts,, Let’s face it you can’t help yourself. OCD!!!!!

  9. @ yamit82:

    “As you might deduce from my comments in # 4 real Jews ain’t nice.”

    “NICE has never been anything more than a cheap and inadequate substitute for GOOD (protective coloration for its absence). But OBNOXIOUS, VINDICTIVE, and MALEVOLENT are no improvement on it either. . . .”

    “not for we Hebrew speakers there ain’t no Hebrew equiv to your western concepts based on Greek.”

    Aint no Hebrew equivalent to “nice” either — yet it was a “Hebrew speaker” (YOURSELF) who first used it here [see above]; not me.

    “In Hebrew there are no abstract concepts.”

    An irrelevant distraction, which seems to overlook the first word in the title of the work you cited: Ancient Hebrew Thought.

    I stand by what I said:

    “Nice” is BS, because it’s typically a cheap substitute deployed by people who go out of their way to hide the fact that they aren’t good. In most instances it’s sheer camouflage and nothing but.

    But the fact that NICE is usually camouflage is no excuse for vindictiveness, malevolence & obnoxiousness. Common courtesy wasn’t introduced to the world OR to the Jews by Hellenists.

    @ yamit82:

    “There is no good without bad/no such animal as evil in Jewish thought it’s more like like Ying&Yang…

    You don’t believe that gnostic poppycock any more than I do.

    — Evil is real; you can’t intellectualize it away.

    “Eastern understanding got it. You essentially christian Greeks didn’t”

    The very fact that you keep constantly (desperately) trying to define me as “other” is as close to proof positive as one can COME to showing that YOU don’t “get” that nonduality bilgewater any more than the “essentially christian Greeks” did.

    You just misapply it — only in a different way from how they misapplied it.

  10. @ yamit82:

    “But since when has your spelling ever been an issue for me anyway? As long as it doesn’t keep me (or anybody else) from deciphering your meaning, why would it matter to me? The only context in which I recall discussing it at all was one in which I’d suggested that it was the trauma caused by your resentment of a cruel, impatient, insensitive, or incompetent teacher that prevented you from learning whatever it was that s/he was trying to teach — in this case, presumably, spelling.”

    “Say What??????????????”

    “Say what” about what? Got a reading problem?

    “Don’t mean to be getting into the middle of this, David (let alone, side-track your exchange). But I note that you corrected your original ‘ipse’ to ipsa, which is indeed correct. Now, though, you need to correct the rest. The expression is RES IPSA LOQUITUR.”

    “You are some piece of work. Do you ever connect your own dots?”

    Why would I need to connect them? — I know where I’m coming from.

    You, OTOH, seem to have real difficulty connecting my dots.

    I offered the correction because — based on David’s recent [above] alteration — it occurred to me (correctly, as it turned out) that he might like to have the expression accurate. So I offered it. What is your problem???

  11. @ dweller:

    There is no good without bad/no such animal as evil in Jewish thought it’s more like like Ying&Yang… Eastern understanding got it. You essentially christian Greeks didn’t

  12. dweller Said:

    NICE has never been anything more than a cheap and inadequate substitute for GOOD (protective coloration for its absence).

    But OBNOXIOUS, VINDICTIVE, and MALEVOLENT are no improvement on it either. . . .

    not for we Hebrew speakers there ain’t no Hebrew equiv to your western concepts based on Greek. In Hebrew there are no abstract concepts.

    Abstract thought is the expression of concepts and ideas in ways that can not be seen, touched, smelled, tasted or heard. Hebrew never uses abstract thought as English does. Examples of Abstract thought can be found in Psalms 103:8; “The LORD is compassionate and gracious, Slow to anger, abounding in love”. As you noticed I said that Hebrew uses concrete and not abstract thoughts, but here we have such abstract concepts as compassionate, gracious, anger, and love in a Hebrew passage. Actually these are abstract English words translating the original Hebrew concrete words. The translators often translate this way because the original Hebrew makes no sense when literally translated into English.

    Anger, an abstract word, is actually the Hebrew word (awph) which literally means “nose”, a concrete word. When one is very angry, he begins to breath hard and the nostrils begin to flare. A Hebrew sees anger as “the flaring of the nose (nostrils)”. If the translator literally translated the above passage “slow to nose”, it would make no sense to the English reader, so a nose, is translated to “anger” in this passage.

    A deer and an oak are two very different objects and we would never describe them in the same way with our Greek form of descriptions. The Hebrew word for both of these objects is (ayil) because the functional description of these two objects are identical to the ancient Hebrews, therefore, the same Hebrew word is used for both. The Hebraic definition of is “a strong leader”.

    “A deer stag is one of the most powerful animals of the forest and is seen as “a strong leader” among the other animals of the forest. Also the oak tree’s wood is very hard compared to other trees such as the pine which is soft and is seen as a “strong leader” among the trees of the forest.”

    Ancient Hebrew Thought
    By Jeff A. Benner

  13. dweller Said:

    But since when has your spelling ever been an issue for me anyway? As long as it doesn’t keep me (or anybody else) from deciphering your meaning, why would it matter to me?

    Say What??????????????

    Don’t mean to be getting into the middle of this, David (let alone, side-track your exchange).

    But I note that you corrected your original “ipse” to ipsa, which is indeed correct.

    Now, though, you need to correct the rest.

    The expression is RES IPSA LOQUITUR.

    😛 😛 😛 You are some piece of work. Do you ever connect your own dots??????

  14. As you might deduce from my comments in # 4 real Jews ain’t nice.”

    I hear you, Yamit. I would say, in my experience, that Jews are nice–extremely nice–to their friends, but dreadful to their enemies. I’m the same way, really. I’m kinda like my grandfather remarked: “Watch out when I run out of cheeks.”

  15. @ yamit82:

    “As you might deduce from my comments in # 4 real Jews ain’t nice.”

    NICE has never been anything more than a cheap and inadequate substitute for GOOD (protective coloration for its absence).

    But OBNOXIOUS, VINDICTIVE, and MALEVOLENT are no improvement on it either. . . .

  16. @ honeybee:

    “I have been extraordinarily careful with my spelling and yet I have not receive even the slightest positive acknowledge from yourself.”

    Big girls don’t need that. Their satisfaction comes from the accomplishment itself.

    But since when has your spelling ever been an issue for me anyway? As long as it doesn’t keep me (or anybody else) from deciphering your meaning, why would it matter to me?

    The only context in which I recall discussing it at all was one in which I’d suggested that it was the trauma caused by your resentment of a cruel, impatient, insensitive, or incompetent teacher that prevented you from learning whatever it was that s/he was trying to teach — in this case, presumably, spelling.

  17. yamit82 Said:

    As you might deduce from my comments in # 4 real Jews ain’t nice.

    All one has to do is read the comment between dweller, Stern, and yourself to deduce that.

    yamit82 Said:

    3 comments were spammed

    And the day’s just half over for you.

  18. The Birkat ha-Minim ( “Blessing on the heretics”) is a Jewish prayer of blessing on heretics in general, and sometimes Christians, though in this context “blessing” may also be a euphemism for a curse. The blessing is the 12th of the Eighteen Benedictions or Amidah

    The writing of the benediction is attributed to Shmuel ha-Katan at the supposed Council of Jamnia which was inserted in the “Eighteen Benedictions” as the 19th blessing in the silent prayer to be said thrice daily, the Amidah. The benediction is thus seen as related to the Pharisees, the Development of the Hebrew Bible canon, the split of early Christianity and Judaism as heresy in Judaism, the origins of Rabbinic Judaism, Origins of Christianity, Christianity in the 1st century, and history of early Christianity.

    The Blessing was useful as a tool for outing minim, because no min would recite aloud or reply amen to it, as it was a curse upon minim

  19. dweller Said:

    Don’t need to read it.

    I know it by heart.

    Pronounced it (actually sang it), quite literally, THOUSANDS of times, after meals

    — before I grew up.

    You make it sound as if it were scriptural, however.

    It isn’t.

    The rabbis, in fact, eventually made alterations to it

    — and may make further ones, in time, as well.

    Huh?????????????????????????????????????????

    Birkat ha minim

    The blessing is the 12th of the Eighteen Benedictions or Amidah

    The writing of the benediction is attributed to Shmuel ha-Katan at the supposed Council of Jamnia which was inserted in the “Eighteen Benedictions” as the 19th blessing in the silent prayer to be said thrice daily, the Amidah.

    The benediction is thus seen as related to the Pharisees, the Development of the Hebrew Bible canon, the split of early Christianity and Judaism as heresy in Judaism, the origins of Rabbinic Judaism, Origins of Christianity, Christianity in the 1st century, and history of early Christianity.

    The Blessing was useful as a tool for outing minim, because no min would recite aloud or reply amen to it, as it was a curse upon minim

  20. We’re talking about recognition of a country with no defined borders, with no declared capital that has expansionist aims.

    All charges lodged against Israel in the past as if that makes its existence controversial.

    Sweden and the UK don’t seem to mind Palestine meets just the same set of criteria and can be readily forgiven because its run by Arabs.

    Way of the world.

  21. @ yamit82:

    “…’For the apostates let there be no hope. And let the arrogant government be speedily uprooted in our days. Let the notzerim and the minim be destroyed in a moment. And let them be blotted out of the Book of Life and not be inscribed together with the righteous. Blessed art thou, O Lord, who humblest the arrogant’ (Schechter).

    Reading this dweller?”

    Don’t need to read it.

    I know it by heart.

    Pronounced it (actually sang it), quite literally, THOUSANDS of times, after meals

    — before I grew up.

    You make it sound as if it were scriptural, however.

    It isn’t.

    The rabbis, in fact, eventually made alterations to it

    — and may make further ones, in time, as well.

  22. M Devolin Said:

    “Chaos, suffering and destruction in the land of the enemies is always a good thing.”

    Well said, Mr. Ross. Reminds me of the Yiddish proverb: “Rejoice not when your enemy falls, but don’t help him up either.”

    I enjoy nothing more than to see the enemies of the Jewish people down on their luck.

    I always disagreed with that proverb. On Purim we celebrate and get stone drunk celebrating the defeat and the downfall of the wicked Haman. The book of Esther say the Jews slaughtered some 80,000 of Haman’s supporters.

    On Passover we say a prayer:

    “Pour forth Your wrath upon the nations that do not recognize You and upon the kingdoms that do not invoke Your name. For they have devoured Jacob and destroyed his habitation. Pour forth Your fury upon them and let Your burning wrath overtake them. Pursue them with anger and destroy them from beneath the heavens of the L-rd.”

    BIRKAT HA-MINIM (“benediction concerning heretics”), the twelfth benediction of the weekday Amidah (the Shmoneh Esreh prayer). The benediction belongs to the latter part of the Amidah petitions, which beseech the redemption of the people of Israel. Worded more like an imprecation (see Tanuma [Buber ed.], Vayikra 3), in its invocation of divine wrath against internal enemies to Jewish integrity and against external enemies of the Jewish people, it differs from the other petitions.

    For the apostates let there be no hope. And let the arrogant government be speedily uprooted in our days. Let the notzerim and the minim be destroyed in a moment. And let them be blotted out of the Book of Life and not be inscribed together with the righteous. Blessed art thou, O Lord, who humblest the arrogant” (Schechter).

    Reading this dweller????

    Chanukah we celebrate the defeat of the Pagan Greeks and their Jewish enablers in a 23 year bloody civil war.

  23. “Chaos, suffering and destruction in the land of the enemies is always a good thing.”

    Well said, Mr. Ross. Reminds me of the Yiddish proverb: “Rejoice not when your enemy falls, but don’t help him up either.”

    I enjoy nothing more than to see the enemies of the Jewish people down on their luck.

  24. ‘With strategic blindness and moral depravity now serving as the twin guideposts for European policy towards Israel, Israel and its supporters must tell the truth about the push to recognize “Palestine.”

    ‘It isn’t about peace or justice. It’s about hating Israel and assisting those who most actively seek its obliteration.’

    Reminds me of something I just read by Efraim Karsh in his book ‘Palestine Betrayed’:

    “And so it goes on. More than six decades after the Mufti and his followers condemned their people to statelessness by rejecting the UN partition resolution and waging a war of annihilation against their Jewish neighbors, their reckless decisions are still being re-enacted by the latest generation of Palestinian leaders. For to refuse to recognize Israel’s right to exist, long after the acceptance of this right by the international community, and to insist on the full implementation of the ‘right of return’ at a time when Israel has long agreed to the creation of a Palestinian state roughly along the pre-1967 lines, indicates that in the Palestinian perception peace is not a matter of adjusting borders and territory but rather a euphemism for the destruction of the Jewish state.”

  25. The best thing for srael and the Jews is that europe sinks into chaos. there are 2 movements which can accomplish this: russia and the internal muslims. the quicker the muslims gain strength in europe is the quicker that Europe will sink into chaos and civil strife. A balance in europe needs to be reached like that of arab spring in the middle east where neither side reaches victory and chaos and suffering are ongoing. How can this be facilitated I wonder? Furthermore, Israel should covertly aid European separation movements even if they are anti zionist. Europe has always been and will continue to be the greatest enemy of the Jews. Rather than ponder the obsessions and pathologies of the euros just operate as if they were the worst enemies of the Jews while smiling in their face. Chaos, suffering and destruction in the land of the enemies is always a good thing.