T. Belman. Amir says that Israel’s goal is to destroy Hezbollah rather than the limited goal of returning Israelis to their homes. This is similar to our goal of destroying Hamas in Gaza.
He also said that we are now readying for war with Iran. He said we are in a race for time to destroy the nuclear facilities. But he didn’t say that we are going to bomb them. Instead he mentioned Regme change.
Here in my part of the world we have a saying, God helps those who help themselves. Israel should standup, be a man of war and push back against their enemies and with each push take more of their land back. What about the rest of the world? To hell with them. Do not say Israel does not have the resources. they have all the resource they need. They just need to turn their face to him and call upon his name. The bible describes Israel as an unfaithful wife, that has chosen a life of harlotry with the nations and turn away from her husband, which is YHVH. Israel(she) needs to repent and return to her creator/Husband, and he will fight for her. Israel cannot be destroyed. Every empire that has existed in history has tried. It is time Israel get out of bed with the nations and put her feet together and stand up for herself.
@peloni, Michael S, and eddavis,
My counsel that Israel should not go to war with Iran was somewhat misunderstood.
First, to address the claim that Iran and Israel were already at war, I would say that what has been occurring is “conflict”, but certainly not all-out “war”, in the conventional sense. Israel just doesn’t have the resources for a conflict on that level. Perhaps I’m splitting hairs, so I won’t belabor the point.
Secondly, Iran’s powerful friends….This would primarily be Russia. True, Russia would probably NOT enter the war on Iran’s behalf. But, what they will do, and in fact they have already begun, is to arm Iran with S-400 air defense systems. If Iran can impede Israel’s air power, Iran will have effectively won. The S-400 systems will take time to bring on line, but once they are active, Israel will be facing a major obstacle. The physical size of the country, and the difficult terrain, will make it hard for Israel to do anything more than to inflict isolated strikes, where a massive bombing campaign is what is really called for.
Third, Iran’s internal instability, and the general insecurity of the leadership. I think that this is perennial wishful thinking. I do not think that Iran is at any risk of collapsing, either socially or politically.
To conclude, It’s not that war with Iran isn’t desirable, or even a necessity. I just don’t think that Israel can logistically carry on a full-scale war with Iran. I think the best Israel can do is to continue what it has been doing, to re-establish deterrence. They need to work hard to drive Hezbollah out of south Lebanon, or even to assist Lebanon to expel Hezbollah, entirely, if they have a mind to. Israel must clear terrorists out of Judea and Samaria. They need to work to insure that the “Jordan Option” will be implemented at the right moment. Israel also needs to put more pressure on the IRGC in Syria. Israel will have its hands full addressing these issues, and should defer a full-blown war with Iran.
A final thought…Iran and it’s proxies have made use of ballistic and cruise missiles, but I have not heard any reports of Israel doing the same. I don’t know why, but perhaps Israel is missing the boat. Missiles are a way that Israel can reach out and touch Iran, without putting IAF planes and pilots at risk.
@Raphael
In fact, in addition to the sentiments explained by @eddavis317 and @Michael, it should be noted that Iran has left Israel no other card to play beyond the choice of
open war or complete capitulation. For example, should she choose to simply conduct a tit for tat exercise at this point, it would be tantamount to an Israeli capitulation of Iranian dominance, following which all of Israel’s potential allies in the region who are looking at Israel as the strong horse in the region will see that it is instead Iran who is the strong horse in the region, and this will only invite greater and greater attacks on Israel herself, and by more than just Iran. To borrow a line from somewhere, war is upon us, and we must acknowledge this with the dedication to our own survival which has been missing over the past many decades. Hence, Israel must strike Iran with a crippling attack which demonstrates Israel’s strong horse regional position, and it must continue to hold Iran directly responsible for every rocket fired from Lebanon, for every ship deterred from the Red Sea by the Houthis, and for every hostage which is still maintained in the dungeons of Gaza. Iran is the source of power for all of these terror centers, and it is Iran to which Israel must take the battle without any nuance or limitation on its devastation. With or without the US, Israel must act as if only one strong horse will survive this war, and that strong horse must be Israel and not Iran.
Regarding Iran’s “friends”, you will see that neither Russia nor China will fight for Iran, but will instead limit their responses to diplomatic demands and gesticular pronouncements.
As to Iran being a big country at a distance, we should recall that Iran is in fact the paper tiger which it has itself falsely described Israel to be. Her air force is still parked at the bottom of the ocean and their nave is likely to join them down their in time. Their missile defenses are themselves not invulnerable and after defeating these, Iran’s many homeland targets are quite open to being attacked at will. What is more is that Iran’s population, for all their divisive squabbles, are less hostile towards Israel than they are towards the Mullahs who dominate and abuse them. Hence, Israel has no need or use of conquering the big country of Iran but only needs to destabilize the Mullahs which have instead been stabilized over the decades with far too much Western assistance.
Consequently, while I can appreciate your concerns about war with Iran, Israel has little choice and many benefits in recognizing the fact that it is Iran which crossed the border in Gaza, launched missiles from Lebanon, and shut down the Red Sea from Yemen, in addition to launching its historic ballistic missile attack on Israel. Hence, it is to Iran which Israel must finally respond and with a terrible vengeance extending beyond anything which Iran has brought against the Jewish State.
Ed Davis,
Thank you for noting the obvious — which unfortunately, few do. If anyone hasn’t noticed, lobbing hundreds of drones and missiles directly into Israel, along with hundreds of sorties from its proxies in Lebanon, Aza, Yemen and elsewhere, is what in the days of sanity, we used to call “war”.
Raphael:
Iran is already at war with Israel. Israel can only survive if Iran does not go nuclear which it will.
https://amgreatness.com/2024/10/11/how-the-biden-harris-admin-helped-iran-get-to-the-brink-of-a-nuclear-bomb/
I keep hearing that war with Iran is imminent. This is not a good idea. It is a task that (even) Israel is not equipped to take on. Strike Iran, OK; degrade Iran and its proxies, OK. But think first before you act. Iran is a big country, quite some distance away. It has lots of resources, and some very powerful friends. No… Going into a full-blown war with Iran is an astoundingly bad idea.