by Chris Farrell, GATESTONE INSTITUTE • December 2, 2021
- Given Germany’s notorious history of brutally stigmatizing various minority populations, it is shocking and outrageous that a German “research institute” and the Hamburg-based weekly news magazine would sink to such sleazy malice.
- The U.S. Constitution is not “waived” due to disease or natural disaster. We must beware of politicians and other officials who seek to exercise power through “mandates” without a single vote or the active exercise of informed consent.
- COVID-19 is a serious disease, but it bears constant repeating that the recovery rate now is between 97% and 99.75%.
- We must resist authoritarian impulses and exercises by various officials seeking to consolidate power and impose their will over the constitutional processes and guarantees we enjoy. Our Constitution was designed and ratified for exactly such challenges and it has endured 231 years through a myriad of challenges far more grave than a virus.
COVID-19 is a serious disease that can have deadly consequences. The good news is that now the recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%. As the world approaches its second full year grappling with the ever-mutating virus and the public health response, some serious public policy and political questions require attention:
“o persists and succeed the nascent state of this totalitarian regime must not appear as being totalitarian.”
I think the key word here is “nascent”.
What will happen when it matures, is anyone’s guess.
The PTB are boiling the frog slowly but in the end the frog will be cooked.
But why argue? We will wait and see.
Here is an interesting book:
Friendly Fascism: The New Face of Power in America Bertram M. Gross
@Reader
I first saw Dr. Desmet’s comments on an interview with Reiner Fuellmich. I found his discussion to be a fascinating analysis that also combined with some research I did many years back. Since then I regretted not sharing his comments. It seems he is making the rounds and has received a good bit of attention recently, deservedly so I believe.
Regarding the topic you raised about him being too optimistic on the continued tolerance of dissenters while the system crumbles around them, I believe an explanation on this view could be gleaned from CJ Hopkins analyses on what he terms the pathologization of totalitarianism in which we are now living. To persists and succeed the nascent state of this totalitarian regime must not appear as being totalitarian.
Ted posted Hopkins most recent essay analyzing this point a few days ago here:
https://www.israpundit.org/pathologized-totalitarianism-101/#more-63675756
If you have not read it, you should. It is a long essay, but very well worth the read IMHO. I read it first prior to revisiting the topics covered by Dr. Desmet’s analysis and then I re-read it afterwards. Desmet and Hopkins approach their analyses from differing perspecives, but are very complementary, I believe, describing a single issue given their own unique backgrounds.
@peloni
Thank you for posting that Dr. Desmet video.
It is all about the psychology of the mob and how it works (“mass formation”).
It also explains (indirectly) why we repeatedly witness a mass anti-Jewish psychosis after a population experiences an overwhelmingly stressful situation.
While you feel he might be too pessimistic, I think that he is too optimistic, especially about the possibility that the dissenters will “survive outside the [totalitarian] system” while quietly watching the system crumble (this reminds me of the solution the dissenters employed in “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand but is it really possible in real life?)
@Bear
No worries…
Regarding the use of objectivity when examining data, you should choose a better standard than objectivity if you have the patient’s care at heart. Science is an open discussion where inferences are judged with the utmost sense of objectivity. Medicine is a subset of science, however, it pursues a standard which is quite distinct from science. In medicine, objectivity is NOT the standard of a clinician’s discretion. In medicine we are not counting photons in a given space, we are dealing with people’s lives. Biological systems, once toxified, are not necessarily within our ability to repair, eg causing the development of a blood clot following the injection of an experimental vaccine. The experimental product has to prove its worth and its safety and a clear benefit by considering these two parameters against a certain risk.
In medicine we judge everything by a standard called the Precautionary Principle. It is not objective. It favors the patients health. This is what a doctor is suppose to do. They don’t consider the vaccine and the patient in an objective space, and no one should ask the to do so. The vaccine has to be proven as safe. Safe for children. Safe for babies, safe for the unborn. Safe for pregnant women. Safe from causing gene mutation. Safe from causing heart disease. Safe from causing cancer. I could go on, but the point is the onus of certainty of the proof lies with the manufacturers to prove the worth and safety of their product beyond any doubt. This is the very purpose for which VAERS was created, and the precautionary principle demands that the vaccine be proven to not be responsible for all the safety signals created within hours, literally, of the vaccine administration. I could go on to examine the effectiveness and then the actual concept of benefit, but I think my point is clear.
Anyone who is looking for an objective opinion on an experimental vaccine has no insight into the purpose and use of medicine. So, it is fairly noted I am not objective. I am only looking to fill the huge holes of doubt in the data to support a conclusion they are safe and effective as was and is claimed…Think of it as being a patient’s advocate. This is where medicine needs to be.
@ Peloni, I believe you look at data I just don’t believe you are objective. So I don’t pay that much attention to your comments. No liable just not sold. Which does not mean you are never correct but I simply have sources I rely on. No offense meant.
@Bear
I suspected this.
For what it is worth, I do look at the data, all the data, quite contrary to the libel you repeatedly lodge at me. I have many question, questions you may not agree with, but they are always based on the data, missing data, or distorted data, and the massive safety signals, which you seem oblivious to address.
Well, many do dwell on public health messaging, as they are not so happy as to have close relations and association for medical advice as you. Also, many bad policies are put in place to only support such messaging as is evident with the deleterious choices made over the past two years regarding lockdowns, masks and no treatments.
@Peloni, clearly working on being healthy, exercise, proper nutrition, and keeping your immune system strong is the way to go! Something I have been doing for a long time and is part of my way of life.
@ Peloni, Okay I accept that Public Health messaging would be improved if they mentioned things such as D3. I do NOT dwell on the public health messaging. I long ago found that it was far less than ideal to put mildly, confusing and not well thought out.
I only pay attention to certain sources that I find credible, objective, science and data driven. Yes, I missed your point because I had NOT read it.
@Bear
Actually Bear you miss the point entirely, or perhaps this was one of the posts you just didn’t read. It’s not the doctors and its not the hospitals that I am speaking of as you would recognize if you had read what I wrote. It is Public Health messaging which is not for the doctor or the hospital systems. Public Health messaging is entirely focused on Vaccines and masks and distancing when the reality is that Vitamin D, good exercise, and healthy diet and lifestyles will KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF THE HOSPITALS!! It will also give people something to do to actively combat the virus and improve their mental health which is also never addressed by Public Health messaging.
This is where Public Health messaging should be focused seeing that the vaccines are so effective they do not prevent the spread and they do not prevent people from being hospitalized and dying. You can read what you like and take what you like from it, but kindly do not mischaracterize what I wrote, simply so you can disagree with it. Doing so suggests a sinister motive.
People with Covid die in the Hospitals. Keeping them out of the Hospitals should be the entire focus of all public policy and public health messaging. Instead they will push their vaccines as it profits them well, but this one trick pony seems to be failing to keep people out of the hospitals as has been noted quite often of late. Public Health messaging should be focused on providing guidance to save lives, not sell product. They have never focused on healthy lifestyles and Vitamin D guidance to protect people from hospitalization, not even before there were vaccines to sell. They closed gyms, they forced people into homes for months on end, with no word about the known fact that the virus spreads indoors, as it concentrates there.
NO MENTION of Vitamin D.
NO MENTION of HEALTHY DIETS
NO MENTION of EXERCISE
NO MENTION of VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS
NO MENTION of TREATMENTS
Just get your monthly subscription to a vaccine that is actually directed against a variant two years old. Oh, yea, and of course use a mask that also doesn’t prevent spread, and keep 6ft apart, even though the virus is airborne not droplet based.
If they were focused on saving lives they would be pushing people to pursue healthy lifestyles and Vitamin D and they don’t. Public Health has a focus of informing the public, not the patients of any, or even every, hospital system, as you are likely aware. The Hospitals advising patients to use Vitamin D is well and good because they actually see patients(curious if you know the levels they are advocating??), BUT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON AVOIDING BEING SUBJECTED TO THE CARE OF ANY HOSPITAL.
Anyone who has not read this article Ted posted today REALLY should, even if they do not read what I write.
https://www.israpundit.org/court-orders-hospital-to-administer-ivermectin-dying-covid-19-patient-recovers/
It is a very soft telling of a horror story in which the hospital was adament to not treat their patient according to his families wishes.
@Peloni actually maybe I do not miss the point.
I know of complete hospital systems in the USA who believe in vaccines but also standard protocol advice their patients to get D3. Kaiser for one example. So I do no longer read most of your postings and all these articles. After I determine one has a viewpoint that is heavily influenced by political viewpoint I conclude that they can no longer be objective, so no matter what their background I take their views with a large grain of salt.
@Bear
You miss the point. There is an inconsistency, but it lies at the Public Health level. This should be at the core of public messaging, and yet it is spoken of never. I am glad that your doctor friends are supportive of this, but it is not a focus of public health messaging and never has been. The virus acts on the ill, the obese and those who are suffering from metabolic stress. Public health is vaccine first, second, third, and fourth. Regardless of the opinion of the vaccine’s use, especially since the immunity is failing after a few months time, the public health message should be focused somewhere on people becoming more fit, more health conscious, and Vitamin D, as important as it is should be shouted from the pulpit in every nation as vitally important, because it is vitally important, of which, apparently, your doctor friends are supportive, which they should be as they are actually doctors and not medical bureaucrats, who have not put hands on an actual patient in years, if ever. Perhaps your doctor friends could reach out to the medical bureaucrats to push for such a policy move as publicly stating to the public to elevate the Vit. D to 50+ and to focus on good health as a primary measure against the virus. Instead people are being boxed in their homes forced towards a lack of exercise with pro-sedentary measures with no supportive measures or counseling to counter the ills of forced home confinement. There is no discussion of the lack of ventilation inside a closed home where the virus breeds and infects the whole house hold, hidden from UV, where people become Vit D deficient, getting fatter, and generally less healthy and just a bigger target for the virus, whichever variant comes along. Instead, all the Public messaging is vaccine vaccine vaccine…It is terribly inconsistent or rather consistently unproductive to push people towards adopting health factors that will put them, with or without a vaccine that provides partial protections, without advising them towards measures that could actually offset the useless measures of lockdowns, masks, etc. This is why it should be an issue, but isn’t, as you note. If Vitamin D levels were elevated, with medical testing of course, to an appropriately high level this virus would be much less successful in a population properly motivated towards healthy routines.
@Peloni my doctor friends who are all educated believers in vaccine are UNANIMOUS in advocating proactively for patients taking D3. Why would this be an issue. There is nothing inconsistent about this!
@Michael
Yes, I have come to share fewer videos, those which are more unsettling or more revealing, because I had expected this is true for many.
The purpose of Dr. Desmet’s comments, though, were not for those you are trying to dissuade from the narrative. It is really for those of us who are trying to dissuade them, to better understand what we are dealing with and how to be more successful in doing so. Just FYI.
In any case, keep talking to those who will listen, as much as possible. It is important. It is frustrating, but it is important.
@Bear
Good to note Bear…Though I have conversed with you, a good bit I believe, on the topic of the vaccines, both directly and also indirectly, I have never heard you share this fact. I had always suspected that this should be your perspective based on your comments of “personal choice” but I remained uncertain on the topic. And yesterday you advocated for D3, again very glad to hear your perspectives on these views, less commonly voiced among the vaccine advocates, such as yourself. They are each very important points to support, in my opinion.
None will have any surprise by my views that the vaccines cause certain injury to thousands, but I am coming to a consensus view that the vaccines may provide absolutely no benefit as well, which actually shocks me and is quite changed from my former opinion that they must support some benefit – I’ll discuss the breaking research supporting this another time more fully.
In any case, I too believe in personal liberty, but more than this I believe in medical autonomy. So long as the vaccines are legally available, which is within the control of the shareholders so it is unlikely to change, a person’s choice to vaccinated themselves or their children should lay with each individual following supportive guidance, not coercion, by an attending physician, not a nurse, not a shop keeper and not a pharmacist, complete with fully informed consent as to all the possible risks and perceived benefits.
Hi, Peloni
I don’t have time to watch any more videos on this; and even if I did, this would not dissuade people from rejecting the (so far) prevailing narrative.
Simply put, millions of people, worldwide, have collectively gone nuts. The writer of Hebrews says,
“(Messiah came to) deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.”
That’s what we’re dealing with today: The world has become a herd of gnus, feverishly stampeding to flee phantom lions. Since there are no real lions in pursuit, we need to target the illusion and expose it for what it is.; but unless one deals with the fundamental problem of fear of death, this is a difficult task.
I would sum my views up like this. The vaccines are positive for health of individuals and society!
However true Liberty requires that individuals decide for themselves if they want something injected into their bodies. So I am against Mandates!
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To combat this condition, you must continue to engage, in as polite and convincing a manner as possible(it’s hard to do this as people are dying, but sarcasm and shouting matches simply lead towards the affected people being more entrenched in their psychosis). Humor is useful and the “Come on Brandon” slogan epitomizes the degree to which such a thing can be used to open a dialogue with the two captured groups, though the more faithful will likely be less open than the center group who are simply supporting the narrative and not true believers, yet in any case.
This is, unfortunately, not the solution, it only prevents those ensconced in the collective narrative from going deeper into their new mental arrangement and it helps dissuade the center third(or more) from becoming true believers. In this way, this center third(or more) may gain the sense of courage to move towards reality thru the continued sharing of polite and rational dialogue. In this way the center third(or more) could be swayed towards liberation from the associated crowd mentality before they become true believers, and instead do what they see as being rational and obviously correct, ie support reality rather than the convenient narrative that is factually flawed.
To break those ensconced in MFP, ie the true believers, you can offer an even more triggering sense of fear than that provided by the initial trigger(the virus), along with a new narrative to addict those caught in the MFP. Such a trigger could be the loss of personal freedoms or loss of the control of people’s children, for example.
If I have lost you along the way, you might watch the video below. You might watch it in any case, really. Dr. Desmet has done a lot of research on this topic. He is hopeful that the narrative will eventually eat its own, as it were, as totalitarian regimes are always self-destructive. He notes that we should expect the rise of a global totalitarian state where an opposition may be tolerated but that the global totalitarian state will, most likely, quickly self-dissolve. A bleak outlook, but that is his opinion. Hopefully he is wrong.
https://youtu.be/uLDpZ8daIVM
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This becomes a fortress upon which any loss or sacrifice is rationalized in the new social construct. In our current situation, the virus eradication via vaccination is the arrangement that provides a sense of inner purpose(removes anxiety) and collective association(removes isolation), and, thus, resolves the psychological pain.
Those affected are trapped in a state that will not accept reasonable arguments because these arguments are associated with breaking with the narrative which formed this new arrangement and which provides both the massive social connection and the escape from their anxiety.
This is MFP and it is what we are caught in today.It narrows the vision of those affected to only see the facts that support their narrative. They lose all sense of empathy for the casualties cause by their battle to support their narrative, be it the vaccine injuries, job losses, economic collapse, nothing matters. They also lose all sense of personal loss that comes as a cost of supporting the narrative, ie family, friends, values. They also become completely intolerant of anyone with a non-narrative related perspective – these outside voices quickly become their enemy, no matter the source, no matter their evidence. Meanwhile anyone supporting the narrative will be raised higher in the minds of those captured by MFP. The people who first propose the narrative are lifted to the position of exalted leaders.
Leaders in the MFP actually have an even more narrowed focus than the public that follows them. They are convinced their ideology will bring people to a state of paradise. This is why they are comfortable with sacrificing part of their followers to establish the totalitarian state – their ideological fiction will benefit everyone and it is well worth the sacrifice.
Also, MFP does not affect everyone and this is key to seeking a resolution. Probably a third of the public are ensconced by MFP, a center third(or more) is initially immune to its effects but they go with the dedicated crowd and overtime will become accepting of the narrative if intervention fails, and the remaining third(or less) are immune to the effects of MFP.
Those of us immune to this trap of MFP can reason with those caught by MFP, we can offer facts and data and numbers of dead, even scarred children, even dead children. None of this will matter. You are trying to reason with a group who are not willing to be reasoned with. They are our friends, our loved ones and our family, we may have known them from our youth, but they have entered into a mental plateau where reality is perceived differently, ie they are trapped in an emotional state that will not accept reasonable arguments, like a religious order. This is because it is associated with breaking with the narrative that provides the massive social connection that also provides them their escape from the sense of anxiety which they found in this new mental arrangement.
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@Raphael
@Michael
How to become unstuck from this tar baby. To answer this, even partially, you must understand by what actually formed the tar baby to which we are now stuck, and this is not a small topic, but I will try my best to describe it.
The world is caught in a state of mass formation psychosis which is not easily explained. This involves a breakdown in society based around the development of irrational thought processes. These, alongside a lack of social connection, reinforces the irrational thought processes. Taken together, they lead towards an established mental disorientation. The mental disorientation when exposed towards an unexplained source of anxiety, ie anxiety that is not defined by a source or cause, but which is very present, then develops into a negative emotional state where you are trying to resolve a state of anxiety to which you can not identify the source. The final element that primes a person for MFP is a generalized psychological discontent or anger that can not be controlled. The generalized psychological discontent is the most painful experience possible and, when considered with the other elements, leads to a loosened psychological tether, a psychological bond that is looking for something to which it can form a bond to explain the anxiety and allow for a resolution of the psychological pain. Taken together these prime the psyche for MFP and provide about 1/3 of the general public as being maleable towards being captured by some manipulative character or spontaneous campaign to alleviate this psychological pain.
When the psychological pain becomes great enough, a proposed narrative can be established to identify anything, such as the presence of a novel virus, as the object causing the anxiety. This central object which is now labeled and identified as the cause of the distress by the accepted narrative will allow people to control their anxiety, regardless of how damaging or how absurd the narrative actually is/becomes. When society begins the collective and exhaustive effort/battle towards the destruction of the established object of anxiety(virus via vaccine), a new social bond develops as a result.
The consuming nature of battling against the identified object of the people’s anxiety takes on a presence of establishing and maintaining a central connection to other people and, thus, becoming part of the mass, or crowd. In this sudden social movement together by the many individuals comprising the mass/crowd, there becomes an established, rapid, collective movement from a lack of any social connection(negative social connection) to a new massive, collective social connection(positive social connection). This rapid shift creates a new mental intoxication from the removal of the mental anguish associated with the social isolation and built-up anxiety in people, and doing it together creates a new social order.
This new arrangement creates a hypnotic state, something akin to euphoria, by the collective crowd, a state they do not want to exit. The facts and reality of what they are doing is not appreciably relevant. What is relevant is the intoxication gained by the new arrangement in which supporting the collective narrative reduces the psychological pain by removing both the unidentified anxiety(now associated with the virus irradication) and alleviates the social isolation(associated with the collective cooperative aimed at the new religion/dogma of “believe the science”).
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I don’t think covid is or ever was so deadly as to justify the extreme measures taken against it. If the “world community” had done nothing, there would have bee3n six to eight weeks of a substantial increase in hospital;izations for, and deaths from infectious deasease, followed to a return to normal for hospitalizations and deaths. At least partial immunity would soon be acquired by much of the population because they will be infected, although many without symptoms. The vaccines and the lockdowns have increased, not reduced total cases of illness and death. Deths from covid may have been diminished, but deaths and serious illnesses from other illnesses have increased as a result of the “side effects” of both the lockdowns and vaccines, as well as the overemphasis on covid cases, leading to neglect of prevention and treatment for many other diseases.
Thanks, Peloni.
Raphael, I don’t think we are punching a tar baby. We are continually repeating the obvious, knowing that EVENTUALLY people will come around. As Benjamin Franklin once wrote, “A lie stands on one leg; truth stands on two.” Millions of people need to change their minds, one at a time.
The article goes on to ask:
It frustrates me that these questions are still being asked. Of course the vaccine status is being used as a litmus test to see who is obedient, and to stigmatize or punish those who are not.
Secondly, I find it puzzling, if not incredible, that good people are still arguing over “the data”. Why waste the time? The people that we are told to trust have been lying from the start, and their sycophants only parrot the party line. There is ample proof that the “official data” has been falsified, obscured, or repressed, to promote their agenda. Call that a “conspiracy theory”, if you will, but it ceased to be a theory once the truth was revealed. So, let’s stop pretending that we are having an honest, two-way discussion. We aren’t! You can’t discuss or debate with liars.
The discussion NOW should be, how do we get unstuck from the totalitarian Covid tar baby.
@Michael
Yes, I wrote on this last week. It is worse than this though.
First the study you cited. It is based on research by a cardiologist named Grundy who uses a PULS test which tests for several markers in the blood that are associated with different heart diseases. The test is used to foreshadow the possibility that the person being tested will develop one of several disease processes that will cause a sharp reduction in blood flow to the heart over the next 5yrs. Grundy noticed that his patients who were vaccinated developed a sharp increase in the scoring on this tests such that their values on average went from 1/11 chance to 1/4 chance of developing one of these heart ailments over the next 5 yrs. This was shocking, but not really surprising when we consider the ever expanding research that is displaying the realtiy that the vaccines have very damaging effects on the heart. We know about the the vaccine infecting the pericytes, which are the cells just below the surface of the blood vessels that lead to the heart. We know about the preliminary diagnoses of death due to myocarditis secondary to the vaccines from a world reknowned pathologist. We know that spike is terribly damaging to the hearts on rats when injected into the bloodstream, albeit, these are rats. We know about the athletes collapsing after vaccination. We know that the vaccines have a label warning about myocarditis. So we know a great deal that should indicate to us that Grundy’s research, though terribly distressing, should be seen as supportive of these other findings rather than really astonishingly unforseen. Now, the other side of the coin is that this PULS test alone is important and calls for confimatory analysis based on Grudy’s report. Which brings us to the next development…
Now the very latest news. The Cardiologist Consultant for GBNews(it’s a British news group) reported that he had a whistleblower who actually works in one of the Cardiology depts in one of the more prestigious English Universities. The whistleblower stated that his dept had conducted imaging studies that actually confirmed Grundy’s work. Imaging is not a blood test. It’s actually looking at the thing being described rather than bloodmarkers. So this might be via radiology, CT scan, Echocardiogram or MRI, or some form of actual conclusive imaging which displayed supportive analysis for the findings on the PULS testing. The whistleblower told the Cardio Consultant that the imaging study was being held back from publication because they feared that their funding would be cut from PHARMA. Now this shouldn’t be really surprising either, but many found it to be so.
The Cardio Consultant also noted that he had spoken to several Cardiologists in England and they told him that they were seeing more and more cases of younger patients since the vaccine rollout. In case this point is a bit obscure, Cardiologists don’t see young patients, it’s really rare in the scheme of their routine patient load who are usually older(40+ with increasing numbers with increasing age). The Cardio Consultant then called for a halt of the vaccine mandates due to all of this and suggested an investigation by the English Committee on Vaccines and Inocullations(Sorry, the name of the group is something close to this). So, yes, I heard about Grundy’s report, but it was much more revealing than just his findings.
Hi, Peloni. Have you seen this yet?
https://twitter.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1466422613043990537/photo/1
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New study and warning from the American Heart Association: mRNA vaccines dramatically increase risk of developing heart diseases from 11% to 25% ”
Text:
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712
“Abstract 10712: Mrna COVID Vaccines Dramatically Increase Endothelial Inflammatory Markers and ACS Risk as Measured by the PULS Cardiac Test: a Warning
Steven R Gundry
Originally published8 Nov 2021Circulation. 2021;144:A10712
“This article has an expression of concern
“Abstract
“Our group has been using the PLUS Cardiac Test (GD Biosciences, Inc, Irvine, CA) a clinically validated measurement of multiple protein biomarkers which generates a score predicting the 5 yr risk (percentage chance) of a new Acute Coronary Syndrome (ACS). The score is based on changes from the norm of multiple protein biomarkers including IL-16, a proinflammatory cytokine, soluble Fas, an inducer of apoptosis, and Hepatocyte Growth Factor (HGF)which serves as a marker for chemotaxis of T-cells into epithelium and cardiac tissue, among other markers. Elevation above the norm increases the PULS score, while decreases below the norm lowers the PULS score.The score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years. Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines (vac) by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients….”
Excellent summary