T. Belman. When I wrote Are you a vaxxer or an anti-vaxxer? I commented ” I recently took notice of some incendiary remarks directed to the institutions and people who support vaccinations including accusations that they are supporting crimes against humanity, a la the Nuremberg Code.”.
The article below takes issue with the video and the incendiary remarks. It separates the wheat from the chaff.
How Israeli Ministry of Health, deleted thousands of testimonies
This is an expensive PRIVATE propaganda piece anti Vaxx full with factoids which have no hard evidence presented by a hired propagandist. Any statement out of many must be backed by iron clad evidence. No such evidence was given. Nothing is said about benefits of the vaccine, but it undermines the morality of a Jewish state which is wrong because it is not true. Even if wrong promoters of the vaccine have good intentions and did not provide vaccine to kill or harm anybody. As statistics show 6500 Israelis died BEFORE vaccine was available. About 1200 died AFTER vaccine availability 80% of which were unvaccinated. This is official Israeli statistics open and not denied by Israeli politicians, Israeli physicians and Journalists.
Every medication, vaccine or food may have side effects. But every symptom that a person comes with can be “noise” of symptoms and maladies that a normal population has. Myocarditis occurs in populations without vaccines. With vaccine the incidence is slightly increased but not in a statistically significant way. Most cardiologist concluded that there is no relations between Myocarditis and vaccine. Further no death were reported due to myocarditis. Same for every “side effect” that the propagandist reported.
We know now that the Pfizer and other vaccines are effective for 6-7 months. Those who claim vaccine side effects can claim so for this period of time. Those who claim long term effects of the vaccine have no case. By now 2,4 billion doses of vaccine were given world wide and no “vaccine epidemic” happened.
In dealing with Covid pandemic there are two strategies:
1. Prevent Covid from all that we can.
2. Treat Covid if Covid happens. Molnupiravir by Merck is a “Tami flu” like medication which is on the horizon pending approval of the FDA. I thought that anti vaxxers will embrace the drug as an alternative to vaccination. But NO. Berenson rejected the medication because Merck developed the drug with Emory University as much as Pfizer developed the vaccine with BioNTeck. Researchers must be paid for their intellectual property or there will be no research.
All said, I believe that draconical measures taken, shutdowns, masking, distancing, some times enforced by police such as in Australia, was not justified. Turning vaccination issue into a political war is what the media wants, it is what politician want, it is what anarchists want. The vaccination cult war has to stop, financing anti vaxx crowd must stop. Further, if you want a voter ID how can you oppose “green cards”?
I opposed mandatory vaccination (“mandate”) because it assumes that a virus can be totally eradicated. No, it cannot happen.
In 1918 the Spanish flu eventually subsided without medications or vaccines. Millions developed “natural immunity” at the cost of 50.000.000 dead. Covid pandemic could have had similar result if left unchallenged. Today people live in better homes, better nutrition, better hospitals, better treatments. Their chances to survive a pandemic are better than in 1918. No treatment, no vaccines will increase the mortality from 5.000.000 to much higher, may not be 50 million but millions more than presently died.
The Mandatory Vaxxers and the anti Vaxxer destruct our attention from millions of infiltrators coming from every corner in the world loaded with infections diseases, chronic illness, drugs. Our irresponsible reckless government is hiding behind the backs of Mandate vaxxers and anti vaxxers.
Isaac Barr MD FACC
Ted, my post here seems to have vanished. Misdirected?
No sympathy from me for Clinton; Adam; but I am happy about the recovery of a genuinely good man, Adam West:
Allen West Backs ‘Other’ COVID Protocols, Says People Shouldn’t Be Forced to Take Shot
Darragh Roche 3 days ago…
“West, who served as chairman of the Texas Republican Party from 2020 to 2021, shared a video message on Facebook on Monday after he returned home from hospital, where he received treatment for the virus.
“He had previously said he was taking “Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin protocols” through a statement issued via his Twitter account on October 9. Neither drug is recommended to treat COVID-19.
“West, who is unvaccinated, thanked the staff at Medical City Plano, an acute care facility, after explaining that he had been discharged and was now back at home.
“He said he had received “monoclonal infusion therapy” and thanked frontline doctors for “recommending protocols to make sure I was on the right track.”
“One of the things that I’ve learned—there’s so many other protocols out there that we should be recommending to people,” West went on.
“This should not be about forcing people to take a certain shot but we should be offering and making sure that people are aware of all of these protocols that are out there,” he said.”
— https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/allen-west-backs-other-covid-protocols-says-people-shouldnt-be-forced-to-take-shot/ar-AAPq5nM
It is interesting, although very sad, that former president Bill Clinton is suffering from a urinary infection that developed into septicemia, a form of blood poisoning. These are among the adverse reactions that some physicians and nurses have reported seeing among vaccinated, especially recently vaccinated, individuals. I wonder if President Clinton has recently received a booster shot, the third shot of a vaccine. If so, someone should investigate the possibility that he is having an adverse reaction to the vaccine.
Clinton as been in poor health for many years. He had to have double bypass surgery on his heart more than twenty years ago. Both his age and his many medical conditions make him a prime candidate both to covid and to adverse reactions to vaccines.
President Clinton is in an ICU, which suggests to me he is gravely ill. His PR people have claimed that he was placed in an ICU mainly to protect his privacy–which absurd.
I am very critical of President Clinton because I believe he has been guilty of sexual misconduct, lying to the public and even under oath, and accepting what amounted to bribes. Despite this I wish him well and a full recovery. After all, in spite of his misconduct he has also “done the state some service, and they know it” (Shakespeare). And no one deserves to suffer such a dreadful illness.
Ted, separating the wheat from the chaff is no easy task. I don’t think Dr. Barr succeeded in doing this, since he impugned the character and integrity of the persons who narrated and wrote the video rather than providing evidence that what they said was false.
In order to separate the wheat from the chaff, we must first of all view as “chaff” posts that pin hostile labels on those they disagree with rather than addressing the facts and alleged facts that are in dispute. The people who make this kind of appeal are appealing to the feelings and prejudices of their readers rather than addressing the issue in a rational way and sproviding us with evidence that their point of view is correct.
In regard to the controversy over whether the vaccines now being used to prevent the illness should continue to be used, I think there is some right and some wrong on both sides.
The “pro-vaxxers” are accurate, in my opinion, that the vaccines have reduced the number people getting sick from, and especially becoming seriously ill or dying from Covid19. However, they have been wrong to dismiss the evidence that hundreds of thousands of people have had adverse reactions to the vaccines, and that some of these individuals have become very ill or even died shortly after being vaccinated. Scientific evidence for this, such as the numerous postings about adverse reactions on the VAERS system. does exist.
The pro-vaxxers are most seriously wrong, however, in the efforts to discourage the use of or even bad the use of drugs that have demonstrated, by many scientific studies, to both reduce the risk of contacting the disease and help many sick patients to recover. This attempt to discourage th use of medications that have been shown to be effective in treating Covid19 is unconscionable, and difficult to explain except as the result of corruption of some kind.
The “anti-vaxxers” are wrong , in my opinion, when deny that the vaccines have brought about a substantial reduction in the number of people getting seriously ill or dying of Covid19. They are also wrong, in my opinion, in denying that unvaccinated people have a higher rate of Covid19 illness than unvaccinated people.
But they are right that the vaccines should not have been authorized for mass usage before they had been properly tested according to the established testing protocols that have been required of all previous vaccines; that possible side effects of the vaccines and reported adverse reactions to them should have been carefully monitored by review boards; and that use of the vaccines should have been halted once it became clear that there were a very large number of adverse reactions. Most of all, the “anti-vaxxers” are right that individual choices by both patients and physicians should be permitted as to whether that individual should be vaccinated or not. instead of vaccine mandates. Where there is evidence that there is some risk in taking a vaccine or any other medication, the right of the individual to decide for him/herself whether the vaccine would be to his advantage must be upheld. Also, the right of a doctor to obtain and prescribe medications that have been shown to help prevent and heal the illness, if according to his best judgment a patient would benefit from them, should not be violated.
The doctor/patient relationship should be sacred.
Full Article with all stats for anyone interested: https://theweek.com/coronavirus/1006016/covid-19-was-the-no-1-killer-of-americans-aged-35-to-54-last-month-and-no-2
I was watching TV and one of the doctors from Ashdod Hospital was explaining that they closed down their Covid ward because of lack of need. His view was that the booster campaign in Israel was strongly curtailing new cases of Covid-19.
That appears to be the overall consensus in Israel.
Statistically this has been shown to be true in reported cases and the downward trend which is continuing steadily lower.
“FDA and CDC ignore reports of serious Covid-19 vaccine injuries from highly credentialed pro-vaccine ICU physician” (https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/whistleblower-fda-and-cdc-ignore)
https://clarion.causeaction.com/2021/10/12/whistleblower-icu-doctor-describes-nightmarish-covid-vaccine-injuries-to-fda-cdc-says-agencies-havent-replied-i-can-no-longer-silently-accept-the-seriou/
Dr. Barr’s attempts to disparage the real hardships and tragedies that have developed following the vaccination program as being background “noise” was not just cold and unsympathetic, it was demeaning and dismissive to the nearly 800,000 people suffering from these hardships. The 8,600 cases of myocarditis have been reported in 4months. This is not background.
A real focus must begin to deal with the damage to that these compounds are causing to the millions of people across the globe. This would be true if the numbers were a fraction of what is reported rather than the truth that the reports are a fraction of the real damage.
We must stop accepting these harms are acceptable “noise” which is exchanged for the antibody production associated with these harmful vaccines. Without considering anything other than the cases reported in VAERS in the US, there are 1500 adverse events per million fully-injected people, and that comes to 1 adverse event per every 660 people(https://covidcalltohumanity.org/2021/09/20/fda-advisory-committee-votes-against-booster-shots-vaccine-risks-outweigh-benefits-especially-for-children/). This is not noise. By supporting such a terrible standard, safety concerns are ignored and such harms will continue.
Dr. Barr, without going point by point basically has it correct. Naturally everyone will not like what he says. As unfortuantedly Covid and its treatments or its prevention (vaccines) have become a political issue to many.
The 10 autopsies in Germany that were recently reported by the renowned pathologist Dr. Peter Schirmacher, known as one of the 100 most influential pathologists in the world(https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/08/05/media-blackout-renowned-german-pathologists-vaccine-autopsy-data-is-shocking-and-being-censored/), noted myocarditis in several of the preliminary reports recently released(https://originalrebel.net/2021/10/04/press-conference-in-reutlingen-germany-on-research-data-found-by-autopsies-from-covid-19-vaccine-deaths/ around 35min mark). Dr. Barr may be unaware of the preliminary results of these autopsies as the media was quite good at keeping them quiet.
Myocarditis is often diagnosed on autopsy alone, but the simple reality is that autopsies are not being performed on vaccinated patients. This is also why the other adverse effects, which Dr. Barr minimizes by referring to them as “side effects”, are not being diagnosed as the cause of death. Pathologist find evidence of these symptoms on autopsies, but you need to do the work to find the evidence. So, of course, the fact that these adverse effects, including myocarditis, are not noted on autopsy as the cause of death is a direct result of having no autopsies conducted, sort of a self fulfilling prophecy. That should be put to the test by having some actual autopsies performed.
Also, the recent report of McCullough and Rose, the former, an expert on cardiology-renal medicine and the latter, an expert on VAERS, states that
Dr. Rose has requested that any legitimate scientist, physician or data analyst who can challenge her findings contact her because it would give her a great deal of relief to know what she found was somehow wrong. No one has, at least as of the end of last month(https://covexit.com/vaers-what-do-the-data-tell-us/).
The advocacy for and against the vaccines is unhelpful, just as is suggesting that the nearly 800,000 adverse efffects in VAERS, including 24,000 permanent disabling events and 16,000 deaths and 8,600 cases of myocarditis, are all simply ” “noise” of symptoms and maladies that a normal population has”.
We should all want an honest answer on these side effects. To suggest that anaphylaxis shock following injection is not related to the injection is disingenuous and wrong. So too is suggesting that a patient developing myocarditis in weeks after the injection as being “noise”. Since June, there have been over 8,000 cases of myocarditis “noise” developing following injections.
The harms and consequences of these matters must be made whole by the society that brought them on their unsuspecting victims. We should at least recognize the crimes society has committed. That at least would be a good start. Pursuing a just retribution for the responsible parties would be a good followup.
What static. Really. We know from VAERS that more deaths and serious injury has been reported for covid shots than all other vaccines combined for over 3 decades. It’s an ‘early warning system’. They should have stopped it at that point. They don’t even talk about VAERS or YELLOWCARD etc. Also and suspiciously we have seen systematic delisting of safe effective inexpensive early treatment options.
Now they want to capture treatment after so many have been denied treatment?
Something stinks here.
Well stated Adam, as usual.
I don’t know if Avi Barak’s claims are true or not, but he shows many examples of what he claims are deleted posts. These things are not hard to prove, or disprove. I am more concerned about the reasons for the recent changes to the data in the iMOH, as shown in a report I shared recently. All of these matters need better answers than that they are financed thru private sources. If we consider the possibility that the govt is obfuscating the truth, where else would the funding come from. Also the govt works for the people – this is the fundamental basis of democracy. The people have questions. This is a fair and serious question if the MOH deleted complaints of the vaccine. Why would they do this, if they did this. Best we just answer the question raised. Are Barak’s claims well sourced or total BS, and Dr. Barr did not do this or even attempt to do so.
I have other matters to address with Dr. Barr’s comments including his marginalizing an increase in myocarditis, as I find this fundamentally sickening as well as bizarre for anyone to suggest, but I will have to pick at this thru the day as time is available. I will leave this teaser though, myocarditis is not a cold. You don’t get it and improve your health for having it. It seriously, often without any clinical notice, damages a vital organ beyond any repair. More later.
Dr. Barr’s comparison between Molnupiravir(MNP) and Tamiflu is concerningly poor with glaring discrepencies between the known and unknown nature of these products. MNP is a drug that induces mutations into the virus to prevent it from reproducing and Tamiflu interupts an essential enzyme associated with some cause of the flu.
Tamiflu is
https://www.fda.gov/media/77829/download
Tamiflu has been thru vigorous pre-release testing and years of post-release data supports minimal effects of treating the flu, if the cause of the flu is the correct cause and administered early enough, which it often times is not. But tamiflu has no chance of inducing mutations, either in the virus or the patient.
Whereas MNP
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8110631/
This mutagenic process must be proven to not affect the patient. As far as I am aware, they have press releases but no data has been revealed as yet. Whatever data they have to support a pre-release safety issue, however will not reduce the reality that this compound will enduce mutations along the entire virus. This is the opposite of what we would want to see happen. Such induced mutations could have the unpleasant result of creating numerous new variants that might be resistent or immune to the aquired immunity now being celebrated by the Covid recovered. I would suggest this is not a desired effect, and no such potential is similar in Tamiflu.
I can not see much similarity in these drugs other than that if not given in the first several days of infection, as with HCQ, there will be no benefit possible. This of course contrasts starkly with IVM, of course.
I regret that Dr. Barr failed to mention the use of drugs and therapies that have not only undergone rigorous testing, but have shown a clear medicinal benefit in Japan, India, Indonesia, Peru, and Mexico just to name a few. And these drugs are currently available, known as safe, and proven to show benefits and much cheaper(less important but relavent) to taxpayers.
I agree with him regarding the researchers having the right to profit for their research costs, but the research costs here and with the vaccines were covered, in part or whole, by US govt funding. For the US investment, the researchers are charging a premium cost for their product. This seems unbalanced, but this is just more evidence of the captured status of the US political class and the US state agency oversight by the target of their oversight. I would not prevent the use of a safe and effective drug just because someone profits for their investment.
I will have more to say on Dr. Barr’s comments, but LATER…
The letter from Dr. Barr gives no evidence whatsoever that the speaker of the video’s allegations are untrue. It is a typical example of what is known as an “ad hominem” attack, in which someone attacks the character and integrity of the person who reports facts that are unwelcome to him, rather than attempting to disprove the facts themselves.
Dr. Isaac Barr attacks the speaker as a “paid propagandist” and accuses “antivaxxers” as waging a “political war.” But he never provides any evidence that the speaker’s factual statements are untrue. He never even denies the speaker’s claims concerning the removal of thousands of adverse reaction reports from the ministry of healths website, the long delay in creating an adverse reaction report site, and the ministry’sfalse statements that it has received no adverse reaction reports.
As for Dr. Barr’s own statistics about the effectiveness of the vaccines in preventing Covid, he provides no source for them. But even assuming that they are accurate, they are not evidence that the hundreds of thousands of adverse reaction reports in the United States and Israel are false. Dr. Barr does not provide any evidence whatsoever to support his allegation that the adverse reaction reports are frauds posted by fanatical “anti-vaxxers” for political reasons.