@Michael Nixon did eat corned beef and cabbage. I think his diet sounds very appealing. Of course, I haven’t eaten meat since the 70s. Just went back and have been eating my way down memory lane. I do love cottage cheese, especially with ketchup, since then and I remember trying and liking head cheese sandwiches with mustard. I read an article that said Nixon’s chef denied he liked cortage cheese and ketchup. It was President Ford.
President Grover Cleveland’s
One of President Grover Cleveland’s favorite dishes was corned beef and cabbage. Corned beef is not considered an Irish national dish, and the connection with Saint Patrick’s Day specifically originates as part of Irish-American culture.Mar 17, 2019 https://apnews.com › article
Five interesting facts about corned beef and cabbage – AP News
Presbyterian President. Can you say that 10 times fast?
Hello, Sebastien,
“Jewish immigrants from Central and Eastern Europe were making corned beef from brisket. “And what we think of today as Irish corned beef is actually Jewish corned beef thrown into a pot with cabbage and potatoes,” Esposito concluded.”
I learned this years ago on israelnationalnews.com . — can’t remember if it was Tovia Singer or Daniel Ben Avraham. My wife and I have been celebrating St. Paddy’s Day with corned beef and cabbage for nearly 50 years. Tonight, we will be serving it at a pot luck.
Éirinn go Brách! 🙂
@Michael Actually, it’s Irish and Jewish. Happy Corrned Beef Cabbage Day. You may address me as Rav. Unless you think it’s too corny.
@Michael
“Celebrate National Corned Beef & Cabbage Day with Quaker Valley Foods!”
“National Corned Beef and Cabbage Day celebrated on March 17 is dedicated to the simplicity of cured meat on a budget. The corned beef and cabbage combination was created decades ago by Irish immigrants. The meal has since become a flavorful favorite in the United States and other parts of the world as well.
The dish was created to fit the budget of Irish Americans who could not afford their homeland’s favorite pork and potatoes. The beef component was used to substitute for pork while the cabbage served as the vegetable replacement. The corned beef and cabbage combination is easy to make and is enjoyed with sour bread, wine or beer.” https://nationaltoday.com/national-corned-beef-and-cabbage-day/
And, to think, you said I ain’t got none o’ that old timey religion.
“Jewish immigrants from Central and Eastern Europe were making corned beef from brisket. “And what we think of today as Irish corned beef is actually Jewish corned beef thrown into a pot with cabbage and potatoes,” Esposito concluded.”
“Celebrate National Corned Beef & Cabbage Day with Quaker Valley Foods!”
“National Corned Beef and Cabbage Day celebrated on March 17 is dedicated to the simplicity of cured meat on a budget. The corned beef and cabbage combination was created decades ago by Irish immigrants. The meal has since become a flavorful favorite in the United States and other parts of the world as well.
The dish was created to fit the budget of Irish Americans who could not afford their homeland’s favorite pork and potatoes. The beef component was used to substitute for pork while the cabbage served as the vegetable replacement. The corned beef and cabbage combination is easy to make and is enjoyed with sour bread, wine or beer.”
“Jewish immigrants from Central and Eastern Europe were making corned beef from brisket. “And what we think of today as Irish corned beef is actually Jewish corned beef thrown into a pot with cabbage and potatoes,” Esposito concluded.”
Obviously, you need to study religion a bit more. Nixon was certainly a Quaker, and a US Navy veteran. I don’t know, though, whether or not he ate corned beef and cabbage 🙁
@Michael Quakers are pacifists and have always played a central role in every anti-war movement. I attended many meetings at their church in the East Village from the time that I was active in CARD, Coalition Against Registration and the Draft, which President Carter was trying to restore, in 1978.
“Since the 1660s, when English Quakers decided to abstain from wars, Quakers have used non-violence as a powerful tool for seeking peaceful solutions to conflict. This doesn’t mean that Quakers are passive in situations of injustice. Instead, Quakers resist with nonviolent tools rather than outward weapons.”
.
Mar 8, 2022
“Quaker Pacifism in the Context of War | Friends Committee On National Legislation”
Peace Witness and Relief Efforts during the Vietnam War
Quaker action during the 1954-75 Vietnam War focused on three different areas – peaceful protest against the conduct of the war itself, counselling for American conscientious objectors of all faiths, and humanitarian aid to both North and South Vietnam. The AFSC’s International Relations Division was also involved in many diplomats’ conferences aimed at ending the war….” https://www.quakersintheworld.org/quakers-in-action/315/Peace-Witness-and-Relief-Efforts-during-the-Vietnam-War
“The Quakers opposed such activities as the declaration of American Independence, which led to the Revolutionary War (1775-1781), because they believed that “governments were divinely instituted and that they should only rebel should the government disobey the laws of God.”[8] In 1695, a Quaker named John Archdale had …
“A core belief of Quakerism is pacifism, which meant that Friends did not engage in violence. Quakers represent a key third group in the American Revolution that chose political neutrality”
“Quakers Battle of Guilford Courthouse (U.S. National Park Service)”
@Michael Quakers are pacifists and have always played a central role in every anti-war movement. I attended many meetings at their church in the East Village from the time that I was active in CARD, Coalition Against Registration and the Draft, which President Carter was trying to restore, in 1978.
“Since the 1660s, when English Quakers decided to abstain from wars, Quakers have used non-violence as a powerful tool for seeking peaceful solutions to conflict. This doesn’t mean that Quakers are passive in situations of injustice. Instead, Quakers resist with nonviolent tools rather than outward weapons
.
Mar 8, 2022″
“Quaker Pacifism in the Context of War | Friends Committee On National Legislation”
Peace Witness and Relief Efforts during the Vietnam War
Quaker action during the 1954-75 Vietnam War focused on three different areas – peaceful protest against the conduct of the war itself, counselling for American conscientious objectors of all faiths, and humanitarian aid to both North and South Vietnam. The AFSC’s International Relations Division was also involved in many diplomats’ conferences aimed at ending the war….”
“The Quakers opposed such activities as the declaration of American Independence, which led to the Revolutionary War (1775-1781), because they believed that “governments were divinely instituted and that they should only rebel should the government disobey the laws of God.”[8] In 1695, a Quaker named John Archdale had …
“A core belief of Quakerism is pacifism, which meant that Friends did not engage in violence. Quakers represent a key third group in the American Revolution that chose political neutrality”
“Quakers Battle of Guilford Courthouse (U.S. National Park Service)”
@Michael Nixon came from a Quaker family background.
…and? FDR was Episcopalian; Wilson was Presbyterian. What of it? I’m not any of the above; but my wife has been cooking corned beef and cabbage anyway.
@Michael Nixon came from a Quaker family background.
Americans have always been anti-war, at least in the North. Woodrow Wilson, FDR 1940, Nixon 1968 — They all won their election to President on anti-war platforms, then proceeded to get us into WWI. WWII and four more years of Vietnam.
There was the Lusitania, then Pearl Harbor, then the Gulf of Tonkin. What will it be this time? I doubt that the critical moment will be the downing of a drone, nor blowing up a pipeline. We’ll have to wait and see.
@Michael Nixon did eat corned beef and cabbage. I think his diet sounds very appealing. Of course, I haven’t eaten meat since the 70s. Just went back and have been eating my way down memory lane. I do love cottage cheese, especially with ketchup, since then and I remember trying and liking head cheese sandwiches with mustard. I read an article that said Nixon’s chef denied he liked cortage cheese and ketchup. It was President Ford.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pa5nw7/richard-nixons-diet-was-extremely-70s-even-less-appealing-than-trumps
@Michael
Presbyterian President. Can you say that 10 times fast?
Hello, Sebastien,
I learned this years ago on israelnationalnews.com . — can’t remember if it was Tovia Singer or Daniel Ben Avraham. My wife and I have been celebrating St. Paddy’s Day with corned beef and cabbage for nearly 50 years. Tonight, we will be serving it at a pot luck.
Éirinn go Brách! 🙂
@Michael Actually, it’s Irish and Jewish. Happy Corrned Beef Cabbage Day. You may address me as Rav. Unless you think it’s too corny.
@Michael
“Celebrate National Corned Beef & Cabbage Day with Quaker Valley Foods!”
“National Corned Beef and Cabbage Day celebrated on March 17 is dedicated to the simplicity of cured meat on a budget. The corned beef and cabbage combination was created decades ago by Irish immigrants. The meal has since become a flavorful favorite in the United States and other parts of the world as well.
The dish was created to fit the budget of Irish Americans who could not afford their homeland’s favorite pork and potatoes. The beef component was used to substitute for pork while the cabbage served as the vegetable replacement. The corned beef and cabbage combination is easy to make and is enjoyed with sour bread, wine or beer.”
https://nationaltoday.com/national-corned-beef-and-cabbage-day/
And, to think, you said I ain’t got none o’ that old timey religion.
https://youtu.be/YDDEqgmGIVg
“Jewish immigrants from Central and Eastern Europe were making corned beef from brisket. “And what we think of today as Irish corned beef is actually Jewish corned beef thrown into a pot with cabbage and potatoes,” Esposito concluded.”
https://forward.com/food/366122/corned-beef-and-cabbage-is-so-jewish-on-st-patricks-or-any-day/#:~:text=Jewish%20immigrants%20from%20Central%20and,and%20potatoes%2C%E2%80%9D%20Esposito%20concluded.
@Michael
https://nationaltoday.com/national-corned-beef-and-cabbage-day/
And, to think, you said I ain’t got none o’ that old timey religion.
https://youtu.be/YDDEqgmGIVg
“Jewish immigrants from Central and Eastern Europe were making corned beef from brisket. “And what we think of today as Irish corned beef is actually Jewish corned beef thrown into a pot with cabbage and potatoes,” Esposito concluded.”
https://forward.com/food/366122/corned-beef-and-cabbage-is-so-jewish-on-st-patricks-or-any-day/#:~:text=Jewish%20immigrants%20from%20Central%20and,and%20potatoes%2C%E2%80%9D%20Esposito%20concluded.
Sebastien
Obviously, you need to study religion a bit more. Nixon was certainly a Quaker, and a US Navy veteran. I don’t know, though, whether or not he ate corned beef and cabbage 🙁
@Michael
https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/national-govt–politics/did-nixon-deliberately-prolong-vietnam-war/qU6DC0sEQcTfxxjTSOfnIK/
@Michael Quakers are pacifists and have always played a central role in every anti-war movement. I attended many meetings at their church in the East Village from the time that I was active in CARD, Coalition Against Registration and the Draft, which President Carter was trying to restore, in 1978.
“Since the 1660s, when English Quakers decided to abstain from wars, Quakers have used non-violence as a powerful tool for seeking peaceful solutions to conflict. This doesn’t mean that Quakers are passive in situations of injustice. Instead, Quakers resist with nonviolent tools rather than outward weapons.”
.
Mar 8, 2022
“Quaker Pacifism in the Context of War | Friends Committee On National Legislation”
https://www.fcnl.org/updates/2022-03/quaker-pacifism-context-war
Peace Witness and Relief Efforts during the Vietnam War
Quaker action during the 1954-75 Vietnam War focused on three different areas – peaceful protest against the conduct of the war itself, counselling for American conscientious objectors of all faiths, and humanitarian aid to both North and South Vietnam. The AFSC’s International Relations Division was also involved in many diplomats’ conferences aimed at ending the war….”
https://www.quakersintheworld.org/quakers-in-action/315/Peace-Witness-and-Relief-Efforts-during-the-Vietnam-War
“The Quakers opposed such activities as the declaration of American Independence, which led to the Revolutionary War (1775-1781), because they believed that “governments were divinely instituted and that they should only rebel should the government disobey the laws of God.”[8] In 1695, a Quaker named John Archdale had …
“A core belief of Quakerism is pacifism, which meant that Friends did not engage in violence. Quakers represent a key third group in the American Revolution that chose political neutrality”
“Quakers Battle of Guilford Courthouse (U.S. National Park Service)”
https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/quakers-at-the-battle-of-guilford-courthouse.htm#:~:text=The%20Quakers%20opposed%20such%20activities,Quaker%20named%20John%20Archdale%20had
@Michael Quakers are pacifists and have always played a central role in every anti-war movement. I attended many meetings at their church in the East Village from the time that I was active in CARD, Coalition Against Registration and the Draft, which President Carter was trying to restore, in 1978.
.
Mar 8, 2022″
“Quaker Pacifism in the Context of War | Friends Committee On National Legislation”
https://www.fcnl.org/updates/2022-03/quaker-pacifism-context-war
https://www.quakersintheworld.org/quakers-in-action/315/Peace-Witness-and-Relief-Efforts-during-the-Vietnam-War
“The Quakers opposed such activities as the declaration of American Independence, which led to the Revolutionary War (1775-1781), because they believed that “governments were divinely instituted and that they should only rebel should the government disobey the laws of God.”[8] In 1695, a Quaker named John Archdale had …
“A core belief of Quakerism is pacifism, which meant that Friends did not engage in violence. Quakers represent a key third group in the American Revolution that chose political neutrality”
“Quakers Battle of Guilford Courthouse (U.S. National Park Service)”
https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/quakers-at-the-battle-of-guilford-courthouse.htm#:~:text=The%20Quakers%20opposed%20such%20activities,Quaker%20named%20John%20Archdale%20had
Hi, Sebastien.
…and? FDR was Episcopalian; Wilson was Presbyterian. What of it? I’m not any of the above; but my wife has been cooking corned beef and cabbage anyway.
@Michael Nixon came from a Quaker family background.
Americans have always been anti-war, at least in the North. Woodrow Wilson, FDR 1940, Nixon 1968 — They all won their election to President on anti-war platforms, then proceeded to get us into WWI. WWII and four more years of Vietnam.
There was the Lusitania, then Pearl Harbor, then the Gulf of Tonkin. What will it be this time? I doubt that the critical moment will be the downing of a drone, nor blowing up a pipeline. We’ll have to wait and see.
Corned beef and cabbage on March 17
https://therecipecritic.com/traditional-corned-beef-cabbage/
I’m told the original recipe came from a Kosher butcher in New York.