TUCKER EXPLODES OVER CRUZ

HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY ATTACKED COPS ON JAN 6?

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  1. @ READER-

    As you well know I wasn’t trying to enlighten anyone, least of all you, as this would be impossible. You know it all.

    I know it’s all in good humour and maybe tongue -in-cheek, but you always seem to be looking for a scrap. I’ll always accommodate you. I’m a bit pugnacious myself -as you know..

    TEEEDDD—I see I’m now logged in as MAX RUTMAN. Your system has played these tricks on me before but I hadn’t mentioned it. Last time, I logged out and then back in again. But this time I want you to see it.

    Max is surely a good guy but, to put it delicately -I prefer my own name,

    O.K. I’ve just seen my post in print, under my own name. So your computer is schitzophrenic.

  2. @Laura. As for idolizing Trump, how many of his amazing accomplishments on behalf of Israel, the US and world peace can you name? If you can’t think of any, I could go on for several paragraphs listing them. Here’s just a few: He got out of the Iran Deal, He brokered the Abraham Accords, He signed and enforced the Taylor Force Act, He recognized Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights, and was prepared to recognized Israeli sovereignty and right of settlement in at least the parts of Judea and Samaria where Jews already live, He implemented the Jerusalem Embassy Act, He cut off aid to the PA, UNRWA and the UN Human Rights Committee. He threatened the ICC with sanctions on behalf of Israel, he extended title VI civil rights protections to Jewish and pro-Israel students on college campuses, he made America energy independent, ,he defeated the Islamic State, assassinated Soleimani and Al Baghdadi. He started no new wars but made peace between several warring parties. He revived the US economy with the lowest unemployment for all groups in memory. Brought back industries Obama said were never coming back.

  3. @Laura

    He could have dealt with election integrity BEFORE

    He tried. I remember reading about it. He was blocked at every turn. He also called for extra security for the capital on Jan. 6 but was blocked by congressional leaders, by the military, by the courts. It was clearly the most broad-based coup d’etat in US history. And then the actual insurrectionists proceeded to occupy the capital with thousands of troups. I suppose the Maidan Revolution in the Ukraine was their trial run in case they should lose the White House.

  4. @Edgar G.

    went to the Capitol to exercise their rights as citizens

    Thanks for enlightening me.

    I didn’t know that taking over government buildings is our right as citizens.

  5. The issue here is not how many cops were or were not hurt on the 6th of January Capitol “whatever”.

    The issue here is an attempt by Trump supporters, no matter how “peaceful”, to disrupt the counting of electoral votes which was instigated by Trump and Giuliani in order to give the victory to Trump.

  6. @LAURA-

    You keep referring to a “cult”. If you stopped doing this your posts would be far more interesting. I’ve always found them so.

    84 million people of the same political mind, can hardly be called a “cult”.

  7. @Laura

    I don’t really care to revisit the Bibi issue, as we have really discussed that at length. Suffice to say, I think Bibi made a mistake in prematurely acting and in judging how Trump would interpret this fact.

    Trump did not sow the seeds that led to the violence that took place on the Capital. It was a coordinated assault by insurgent actors and police abrogating their duty to conduct crowd control measures while encouraging and entrapping the earnest protesters, armed with cellphones and Trump banners, to go on an unguided sightseeing tour so they could later be said to be party to the insurrection being staged. To lay any of this at Trump’s feet is as irresponsible as accusing him of not preventing the Russia hoax or the Impeachment hoax from taking place. It is not idol worship to recognize the fact that the Capital Police were responsible for the security of the Capital, and the National Guard was present at Trumps orders to assist while it was told to stay off Capital grounds in writing. It is one thing to expect someone to do what they are responsible for doing, but it is another thing altogether to expect the man to anticipate the malignant actions of a coordinated attack between the Congress, his VP and assault troops to stage an attack while entrapping the public as victims of the staged crime.

    Regarding his son, I have to confess I really am not sure of this story as to its validity nor its details so I can’t honestly share any comments. I also do not know when Trump was alerted to the actions at the Capital nor of his actions after he left the stage(something which the Dems are quite anxious to find out as well).

    Regarding the election, he had no way to enter the election legal contest prior to the election. There were court cases taken up to prevent the changes to the state election laws and the SCOTUS bumped them. Had he made physical moves to secure the election, with the efforts of the crooked FBI or DOJ, it would have been claimed he was interfering with an election, because he would have been. That being said, Trump should have focused on the fact that there would be an election contest following the election. Sundance noted Trump should have replaced Rona McDaniels with an expert in election interference to prep the groundwork for the “real election” after Nov. 3, and I thought this was a sound point of criticism at the time, but it would likely have changed nothing, given what we know now. Still the reality is that Trump failed in the appeals because he could not find a legal firm with expertise in election law to keep the case due to the attacks by the Dems and Antifa, while the courts refused to hear the cases, punting due to standing (read as “rank cowardice to fulfill their sworn duties and make a ruling”). This was a coordinated assault on the entire country, financed by foreign as well as domestic actors and focused on these matters never seeing the light of a court room, and it worked. Meanwhile the FBI and DOJ stood down while each acted to support the fraud.

    So, how exactly would you have acted to protect the election? Of the dozens of ways the election was stolen, how many would have been plugged by your knowledge in 2020. I once shared your criticism here, but the reality is that this election was stolen from dozens of vantage points and secure with the self-sidelining actions of the Judiciary. Could he have done more? Well I referenced above what I thought on this.

  8. The reason I brought up Bibi was to cite an example of the cult-like worship of Trump that even here on a pro-Israel site, most defended Trump’s attacks on Bibi. You want to attack Cruz for his comment, fair enough. But why is it that no one can criticize Trump in the slightest without being called a traitor or Trump hater etc.? Why is it that Trump gets zero blame for anything? He could have dealt with election integrity BEFORE the election when rules were unconstitutionally changed in some swing states. His own son was desperate to get him to act on 1/6 when things got out of hand. Yet Trump bares no responsibility? Of course, the lying democrats grossly exaggerated what took place, but it wasn’t nothing either. Trump seems to thrive on chaos. He knows the democrats always overplay their hand and therefore knows in the end he benefits from their overreaction. So maybe he didn’t have a problem with the mayhem. But 1/6 was NOT an insurrection or an act of terrorism.

    You can shift the story to Trump, Tucker and Bibi, but those are other stories.

  9. Cruz was speaking specifically about the violence inside the Capitol, certainly NOT the majority of peaceful protesters.

    Whatever you think of Carlson, O.K. But you are saying Carlson “feigned outrage”. He didn’t need to. What Cruz said was so outrageous that it was much more than a lie. It impugned the Patriotic Peaceful people of all ages, colours and beliefs, who went to the Capitol to exercise their rights as citizens.

  10. You are right. I over reacted. I am proud of the support I gave Trump and believe without reservation, that the election was stolen. My use of “pompous asshole” was inappropriate. Perhaps “arrogant” is more accurate.

  11. @Felix
    If we can agree that fraud vitiates everything, we might be able to have a conversation, so long as you set aside your invectives. The system was wrought with corruption. Even as the corruption became clear and obvious, as with HRC’s unsecured email server holding top secret documents was revealed to the world and the investigation found no wrong doing while handing out immunity from prosecution agreements to all of her aides. Trump came to reform the entire system. So they blocked him, setup a silly keystone cops farce that should have been prevented by the courts, and should have been exposed by the most trivial of tabloids, but, it was, instead, carried forward by the great news agencies and periodicals of the day as a damning rebuke which turned the reform presidency into one of constant defense, even as a great deal of reforms were still enacted. This was made possible because the govt, the media and the courts were all caught in the corruption that was meant to be overhauled. Why, else would they have supported, tolerated or sanctioned the charade.

    Fast forward 4yrs, add a staged pandemic and a good bit of gross election tampering. When the fraud was enacted, the FBI and DOJ should have pursued a dozen aspects of it, but, instead, after a couple of weeks and no investigation, with an indignant smirk faux clairvoyance of Barr claimed their was no evidence of election fraud. This left the investigation in the hands of the public alone, without subpoena power and facing an incoming administration which benefited from the fraud. Left to their own resources, the public have stumbled but undaunted, they have carried on with great success in producing massive evidence of fraud in many states.

    There are currently cases in progress. One case based on the infringement of the liberties of minorities – American Indians, Latinos and African Americans – stands before the Supreme Court, others in state courts and on their way to join up before the Supreme Court as well. Still other cases are yet to be taken to court, so we will see how this all plays out. There is a great deal yet to be decided, but I have to admit that given where things stood a year ago today, things do not look that bad, many setbacks, yes, more to come soon, perhaps, but the public will not accept this fraud as fact, even if you and others find it pleasing to do so.

    And we haven’t even been allowed to look at a single ballot in 5 states yet. There are nine months left, if not longer, so check back next year for an update.

  12. Free Market System is not perfect because it has human beings in it and they tend to be flawed. The system with some checks and balances allows for the greatest growth for mankind ever and maximum freedom of the individual and society.

    The communist system is flawed in concept and execution and has lead to the death, subjugation, misery and poverty of countless millions. Yet there are arrogant fools who they and their kind should rule the world.

  13. Peloni about the fraud the world of the rotting capitalist system is full of voter fraud including Ireland but in what state did the Republican side prove a case in the courts and how is the libel case concerning the voting machine libel going and where have you written on that?

  14. Well Ted Belman I’m not pompous and calling me an asshole is totally out of order. And please tell me where I attacked you on a personal basis because I am totally mystified. Is this what you mean?

    *Their leaders of all stripes had backed this man to the hilt. Especially Ted Belman.

    And they backed a loser.

    That is a very dangerous thing for Jews to do.*

  15. @Felix

    The election was not lost because of Covid. It was lost because of an insurrection. It didn’t take place on Jan. 6, but on Nov. 3. Regardless of what you believe or do not, hundreds of thousands of votes have been shown in multiple states as being illegitimately cast when the contest were a fraction of that, and in some cases, a fraction of a fraction.

    The Jewish “leaders of all stripes” did most certainly not back Trump though they should have. Those who did, including Ted, supported the man who has consistently performed the greatest service to the Jewish people in every avenue of life, be it that they live in the US, around the world and particularly in Israel. He recognized Jewish territorial rights to their lands and Capital, he extended legal protections in the US not previously extended to the Jewish people, and he provided the world a more level playing field in which the normalization of terrorism and an over-dependency upon the US, as well as an overt manipulation of the US, was no longer to be tolerated.

    His opponent took the form of a career politician, supporting Globalist goals, including the subjugation of Israel, and a return to the policies that have wrecked the US economy, siphoned off the jobs and profits to both the ‘allies’ and enemies of the US, and sought to manipulate, marginalize and vivisect the Jewish State. The only merit to be had in supporting this Hand Sock Bobble Head masquerading as the Dem candidate from his basement bunker retreat by any Jewish leader was to gain a seat at the Liberal table from which the Jewish people were routinely a target of the Liberal Stormtroopers in the form of BLM, Antifa and BDS activists. Indeed these Leftist leaders qualified the only American President to have Jewish grandchildren in the White House as a bigot, an antisemite and a villain, even as he fought the scourge of antisemitism more vigorously than anyone ever has even attempted to do, even as he would visit the survivors of the violent acts brought against our people in Philadelphia and CA.

    Your willingness to play stupid to these simple realities betrays either your consistently great ignorance or your repeatedly terrible judgement. Whichever characterizes your motivation in doing so, your words are quite false and speak quite poorly of you. Hence, your characterization of Ted, Israpundit and the many bloggers posting here can only bask in the fact that you find us as frauds – high praise indeed from one so consistently wrong on every topic.

  16. @ Felix;
    You are forever attacking me personally. Do it again and I will ban you.

    As for your attacks on Israpundit regarding its support for Trump, it will be proven correct.

    The only reason I did not remove your comment is that I wanted readers to known how much of a pompous asshole you are.

  17. @EDGAR

    I believe Laura is referencing the email exchange that came out last Spring related to the close association between himself and Hubter Biden. He has been an ardent critic of the Left and the reality of his association with them is not really material to his criticism of Cruz. I remember when he first came on Fox with when he still wore the bow tie. He was a co-founder of the DailyCaller and he used to be on CNN, but who cares, so was Lou Dobbs, as CNN was a major magnet for talent before they went full on Pravda.

    In any case, regardless of Tucker’s sincerity to the Right, he is a news commentator. He provides a point of entertainment while presenting a conservative voice within the accepted guidelines of Fox, and has moved the needle to the right more than once. He has a large conservative following which Cruz expected to use to wash himself of his very poor choice of words. Tucker was right to accept him on the show while not giving him a blind pass to ignore this statement – otherwise it would have been a mark on Tucker to add to the sentiment of the Hunter emails. Had Cruz chosen to use this moment to focus on the contingent of govt and Leftist criminal elements planted within the crowd, it might have have been more useful to himself and the Right, but instead he chose to pretend what he said was either not material or accidentally spoken, neither of which are believable. All around, for someone who believes he has a chance at controlling the party after Trump, I think this was an error in judgement that followed an error in judgement.

    https://toresays.com/2021/05/24/exclusive-dear-tucker-dont-be-ashamed-own-it/

  18. Not that it’s expected on Isrspundit but Fascism IS an issue in this new strange world needs discussion.

    Of course everything, and the stated aim of overturning the vote was a serious matter, centred around Trump which includes all of Fox. And Israpundit!!!

    It is a fact that Trump headed for a victory on November 2020

    But then there was an – let’s call it an occurrence.

    This was the virus called Coronavirus Sars-2.

    From there Trump lost the election.

    Here I must emphasise I am no supporter of any American imperialist party and as regards the Republicans and Democrats I see both as Imperial on the world scene – as in destruction of Yugoslavia.

    But as regards the defeat of Trump in 2020 I look there. There may have been fraud but to ignore THAT as I describe I call YOU a fraud and sadly most of you ARE.

    To sum up. The people were scared. Trump lost it on that stage with Fauci and Blix.

    There were very serious consequences for the always endangered Jewish people.

    Their leaders of all stripes had backed this man to the hilt. Especially Ted Belman.

    And they backed a loser.

    That is a very dangerous thing for Jews to do.

  19. @ LAURA-

    I thought Carlson has been with Fox for years. I recall listening to him when he became a host. As a strong Republican, he would often have differences (on screen) with his wife, a staunch Democrat. They joked about it.

  20. Prosecutors: Jan. 6 rioters committed more than 1,000 assaults on police
    The new statistic underscores the violence of the attack and the fact that prosecutors are still hunting for dozens, if not hundreds, of suspects.

    The rioters who participated in the Jan. 6 insurrection committed more than 1,000 assaults on federal officers, according to a review of body-cam footage that prosecutors described in a court filing late Wednesday.

    “Based on a review of the body-worn-camera footage conducted by our Office, the footage displays approximately 1,000 events that may be characterized as assaults on federal officers,” wrote Emily Miller, the federal prosecutor leading evidence-collection efforts for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Washington, D.C.

    I also googled forf how many people were charged with the felony of assaulting a police officer and found this

    Six of those who pleaded guilty to felonies have pleaded to charges related to assaults on law enforcement and face between eight and 20 years in prison.

    I do not know what jailtime they will actually suffer. I am not aware of any sentencing has taken place.

    I wanted to set the record straight.;

  21. @ LAURA-

    Whatever you think of Carlson, O.K. But you are saying Carlson “feigned outrage”. He didn’t need to. What Cruz said was so outrageous that it was much more than a lie. It impugned the Patriotic Peaceful people of all ages, colours and beliefs, who went to the Capitol to exercise their rights as citizens.

    And of course he didn’t invite Cruz, Cruz asked to be on the show. And his denunciation of the Jan/ 6th scufflers was a total lie and no “explanation” could change it.

    AND…his “explanation” was SO weak and shifty, that it was worse than none at all. Why shouldn’t Carlson take advantage of his and tear a few strip s from him. He thoroughly deserved it. And that’s what Carlson does, and it’s what garners him top billing every evening.

    He’s good at it. and Cruz seems to be bad at “explaining”. So perhaps he should be more careful when he next opens his mouth.

    I’m not even an American, and couldn’t care less about the US political; scene, except where it concerns Jews. And Trump was GOOD for Jews. And, anyway, you know that the “riot” was a staged affair by sleazy government agents. Trump supporters had nothing to do with it, especially those in solitary confinement for the past year.

    I think you could write a pretty good post about THAT…??

  22. CRUZ- was very clear and positive, and could NOT be misunderstood. Now, having been hauled over the coals by Carlson in no uncertain terms, he wants to “explain” what he “meant”..

    This is a culprit, exposing his guilt. There is no way that a person who attacks a policeman should be defined as a “terrorist” unless he IS a terrorist . A police attacker could be a petty criminal wanting to get away from arrest, or a drunk whom the officer is pushing around, who strikes out at him. He could be mentally deranged……

    They way Cruz was babbling away trying to prevent Carlson from bearing sown heavier, was sickening, a desperate attempt to divert the public scrutiny, drowning listeners with words. He was talking non-stop whilst breathing in and out..

    If he really always refers to a police attacker as a terrorist, then, with all his verbal and mental skills he doesn’t know the language.

    And he didn’t contact Carlson, to appear on his show, so that he could apologise, until he felt the HUGE backlash from Conservatives all around the country. Particularly in his own state. Until then, he wa sO.K. with it.

    I could go on, and on, but……….it was just pathetic. He got nailed. !!

  23. I think that Tucker Carlson is doing harm by continuing to bully Cruz and accuse him of lying and being on the wrong side of the January 6 issue. Patriots need to stick together if the Democratic Party dictatorship is ever to be replaced by a restored American Democracy.

    Tucker Confront… – Zero Hedge – Journal / Blog / Timeline
    Tucker Confronts Cruz For Calling Jan 6th A “Terrorist Attack”, Senator Apologizes For “Sloppy…Dumb” Comments
    Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News,

    After encountering a huge backlash from conservatives for describing the events of January 6th 2021 as a “violent terrorist attack,” Senator Ted Cruz apologised and admitted that his language was “dumb” and “sloppy”.

    Cruz appeared on Tucker Carlson’s evening show Thursday, apparently at his own request, and attempted to back track on what he said, claiming that he’d been referring to attacks on police.

    Carlson said to Cruz “There are a lot of dumb people in the Congress. You are not one of them. I think you’re smarter than I am. And you never use words carelessly. And yet you called this a terror attack when by no definition was it a terror attack. That’s a lie. You told that lie on purpose, and I’m wondering why you did.”

    Cruz responded “When you aired your episode last night, I sent you a text shortly thereafter and said listen, I would like to go on because the way I phrased things yesterday, it was sloppy, and it was frankly dumb.”

    Carlson interjected, urging “Look, I’ve known you a long time. Since before you went to the Senate, you’re a Supreme court contender. You take words as seriously as any man who’s ever served in the Senate. And every word you repeated that phrase. I do not believe that you use that accidentally. I just don’t.”

    Cruz again described his language as “a poor choice of words,” claiming that “as a result of my sloppy phrasing, it’s caused a lot of people to misunderstand what I meant.”

    “Let me tell you what I meant,” The Senator continued, explaining

    “What I was referring to are the limited number of people who engaged in violent attacks against police officers. I think you and I both agree that if you assault a police officer, you should go to jail.”

    “That’s who I was talking about. And the reason the phrasing was sloppy is I have talked dozens if not hundreds of times, I’ve drawn a distinction. I wasn’t saying that the thousands of peaceful protestors supporting Donald Trump are somehow terrorists. I wasn’t saying the millions of patriots across the country, supporting president Trump are terrorists,” Cruz declared, adding “And that’s what a lot of people have misunderstood that.”

    Carlson continued to say he doesn’t believe Cruz.

    “Hold on a second,” the host shot back, noting “What you just said doesn’t make sense. So if somebody assaults a cop, he should be charged and go to jail. I couldn’t agree more. We have said that for years, but that person’s still not a terrorist. How many people have been charged with terrorism on January 6?”

    Carlson continued, “Like why’d you use that word? You’re playing into the other side’s characterization, that… allows them to define an entire population as foreign combatants. And you know that so why’d you do it?”

    Cruz responded, “The reason I’ve used that word for a decade, I have referred to people who violently assault police officers as terrorists. I’ve done so over and over and over again. If you look at all the assaults we’ve seen across the country, I’ve called that terrorism over and over again.”

    The Senator continued, “That being said, Tucker, I agree with you. It was a mistake to say that yesterday. And the reason is what you just said, which is we’ve now had a year of Democrats in the media, twisting words, and trying to say that all of us are terrorists trying to say you’re a terrorist, I’m a terrorist.”

    “And so look, I don’t like people who assault cops and, and, and I stand up and defend cops,” Cruz carried on, adding “The reason I use that word is that’s the word I’ve always used for people that violently attack cops. But in this context, I get why people were angry because we’ve had a year of the corrupt corporate media and Democrats claiming anyone who objected to the election fraud.”

    “I guess I just don’t believe you,” Carlson said.

    “And I mean that with respect because I have such respect for your acuity and your precision.”

    Cruz also tweeted the interview out, saying his words were dumb:

    I was NOT calling the thousands of peaceful protestors on Jan 6 terrorists. I would never do so; I have repeatedly, explicitly said the OPPOSITE—denouncing the Democrats’ shameful efforts to do so & to try to paint every Trump voter in America as “terrorists” & “insurrectionists”

    — Ted Cruz (@tedcruz)

    The snippet from yesterday didn’t include my passionate & repeated defense of the patriots and peaceful protestors supporting President Trump. I’m sorry that that 20-second clip led so many to misunderstand what I was saying.

    — Ted Cruz (@tedcruz)

    Tyler Durden Fri, 01/07/2022 – 08:46

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  24. @LAURA
    Cruz contacted Tucker, not the other way around. He came without a clear message and by doing so, he laid himself out to be keyholed for his obviously false sentiments about Jan. 6. When he went on that show, he should have had a clear statement to make, but I guess he expected to be able to simply talk his way out of this situation, which, quite honestly, was rather disappointing, by itself.

    His words were harsh but not unfair. I guess Cruz did not expect such a strong rebuke by Tucker, but he should have, and that was a second unforced error on his part. Tucker is a very shrewd debater, a quick wit and on Fox News, and Cruz reaped the whirlwind for his mistake of not providing a clear explanation while trusting that Tucker would give him an easy pass on his weak explanations.

  25. @ LAURA-

    No, of course you didn’t say anything about a mob, and I was not implying that you did. I was just “fleshing out” my post. The subject was Cruz on the Carlson show, and about Cruz’s “vicious terrorist attack” condemnation. It seemed to me that you were pointing at Trump for it, and that everyone else is blamed by not Trump.

    And that he was “leading the rally”, when in fact he was merely speaking at it; it had no leader as such. Well…, they were “loaded” remarks considering the subject.

    It made me feel that Cruz, for all his strong Republican credentials, was really accommodating his Right Wing view towards better relations with the Democrats. All of these politicians speak out of both sides of their mouths when it suits them. Carlson really made him wriggle and burst into a spate of yap which was thoroughly6 unconvincing.

    My opinion only of course.

  26. Nice sentiments, but sleezebag Carlson hates Ted Cruz and seized upon the opportunity. It wasn’t until fucker carlson feigned outrage about Ted’s remark on the Senate floor, that suddenly the issue mushroomed and everyone started piling on Cruz. Fucker Carlson invited Cruz on his show but never intended to accept Cruz’ explanation. So he played the game, pretending to hear him out and then proceeded to dismiss his explanation as he intended to do all along, then there was a further piling on by everyone else. It was a trap and clearly the phony fucker carlson had an agenda. Carlson is a snake and a sleezy operator.

  27. I am saddened thatTucker Carlson and Ted Cruz are feuding. I have great respect for both men. All those who oppose the tyrannical, undemocratic Biden administration should end their feuding and work together to restore democracy in America.

  28. Carlson is a scumbag and like the rest of the DC swamp always hated Cruz. He saw what he thinks was his opportunity to take him out.

  29. I don’t have an aversion to Trump actually. I support him running in 2024. The only other candidate I would consider is DeSantis.

    I didn’t say there was a mob being led to a violent attack in any way.

    @ LAURA-

    I think you are obfuscating things a little. I normally agree with 80% of what you say, but in this I totally disagree. You have an aversion to trump it seems, ….so what…Many do and many feel the opposite.

    Yes Trump was SPEAKING at the Rally, but was not “leading ” it. There was no mob being led to a violent terrorist attack. There was no mob streaming into an attack waving clubs or aces etc. In fact, there was no leader. People were well behaved. Whilst he was still speaking the terrorist” revolution against the US Govt. was being carried out at the Capitol, the property of the People.

    It was an uphill 90 minute walk away from where Trump was. And. as I recall,and videos of that speech confirm, he said “Patriotically and PEACEFULLY”…

    The one thing you have correctly is that it WAS a “rally”.

  30. I’m not calling anyone a traitor. But others are calling Cruz a traitor. I wasn’t shifting the conversation to Trump, I was responding to a question you asked of me of why I would hold any blame on him.

    You keep saying traitorous…just an observation.

  31. @ LAURA-

    I think you are obfuscating things a little. I normally agree with 80% of what you say, but in this I totally disagree. You have an aversion to trump it seems, ….so what…Many do and many feel the opposite.

    Yes Trump was SPEAKING at the Rally, but was not “leading ” it. There was no mob being led to a violent terrorist attack. There was no mob streaming into an attack waving clubs or aces etc. In fact, there was no leader. People were well behaved. Whilst he was still speaking the terrorist” revolution against the US Govt. was being carried out at the Capitol, the property of the People.

    It was an uphill 90 minute walk away from where Trump was. And. as I recall,and videos of that speech confirm, he said “Patriotically and PEACEFULLY”…

    The one thing you have correctly is that it WAS a “rally”.

  32. @Laura
    You keep saying traitorous…just an observation.

    Look, none of this has anything to do with the fact, fact mind you, that Cruz made a gross error, either by accident or for some other reason. Whatever the reason, you have to admit this much at least. I do not believe it was because he was being sloppy, or because it’s his usual stump speech to law enforcement.

    He was bold enough to come out and picked Tucker’s show to change the very poor politics surrounding the situation, but his excuse was shifting(more than one) and not convincing. I am looking for a reason why he would have made that statement, I can’t think of one. But Cruz should have. He has been a very strong conservative voice within the Senate, but those words will haunt him for some time. But it isn’t because of Trump, nor Tucker(totally agree with you on him) or anyone else. As @stevenl said, it was an unforced error, and his base is quite keen to acts of betrayal by their leaders, especially when the attacks are directed at them.

    You can shift the story to Trump, Tucker and Bibi, but those are other stories. None of these men are infallible, but this was a landmine that Cruz set off. His attempt to undo the damage was not very convincing, and I am sorry that this is the way I see it, but I do. And I think it is a fair view to hold, even if you do not hold it.

  33. Perhaps you could explain why the issue of election integrity wasn’t dealt with BEFORE the election, when various states unconstitutionally changed election laws. And how long did Trump wait on 1/6 before responding to the scuffle at the Capitol and telling the protesters to get out? Apparently his own son was desperately trying to get his father to put a stop to it. Is it traitorous to even ask these questions? But of course Trump can do no wrong. But Ted Cruz has the mob piling on him. I’m not one to go along with the mob and I’m not a cult follower.

  34. @Laura
    This has nothing to do with Trump, unless Trump was the reason why Cruz made his statement(??).

    who dares to go slightly off the reservation,

    Cruz did not go slightly off the reservation. His words betrayed the reality of January 6. They betrayed the people suffering in solitary confinement over the past year and supported the political show trials used to prosecute political speech. It wasn’t a slight mistake. It was a gross error, and I found his explanation glaringly unconvincing.
    Regarding this part of your comment

    but somehow Trump always escapes blame when he was the one who led the rally.

    What does that mean? Why would you blame Trump or anyone for holding a protest in support of election integrity and transparency? I suspect you mistyped here, or maybe you can explain why you would hold any blame for Trump of anything here.

  35. How stupid to take the bait. But I agree that it was not an insurrection. In fact I’m convinced it was a set-up and Pelosi made sure that would happen.

    I watched the whole thing many times, I saw a later identified FBI agent break a window. I saw Capitol police open fences, and doors, and usher people in, who looked like tourists, visitors on a sightseeing trip to their own public property, paid for by them, The People.,

  36. I recall those of you here who defended Trump over Bibi, so that tells me all I need to know about the cult-like devotion to Trump. Bibi’s a “traitor”, Cruz is a “traitor” and anyone else who dares to go slightly off the reservation, but somehow Trump always escapes blame when he was the one who led the rally.

  37. @LAURA-

    You talk about “breach of The Capitol Building”. I watched the whole thing many times, I saw a later identified FBI agent break a window. I saw Capitol police open fences, and doors, and usher people in, who looked like tourists, visitors on a sightseeing trip to their own public property, paid for by them, The People.,

    Regarding “warfare” or “Insurrections” etc. the only times I read about “a breach”, is when I read Wellington’s Campaigns in The Peninsula” by Maj. Gen. C.W. Robinson, as well as other Napoleonic writers. where BREACHES in fortifications often occurred as needed. . The American Civil War, and the Spanish Civil war in the 1930s are other examples of sieges and “breaches” (Of course there are “breaches of Frust, and of faith” which seem more applicable here.)

    But NOT on Jan 6th 2021.

  38. With the help of conservatives piling on and keeping this non-story alive.

    The Left will manipulate his words no matter his explanations.

  39. @LAURA-

    I don’t give a tinker’s damn about either Cruz of Carlson. BUT..I just heard and saw with my own eyes, that Cruz, crawlingly contrite and sad, described a very minor scuffle of a handful, in a massive crowd (most of whom didn’t even notice it,) of mostly 5th columnists, as “a violent terrorist attack”…. HE KNOWS BETTER nut it strongly looks as if he’s thrown in the the RINOs bigtime. If I had a vote it would never be for him. He’s only intent on keeping his tocchas covered.

    As we ALL know, of a half million rally attendees, NO police were killed or I think injured by the “mob”… in fact the only violent death was of a completely innocent, happy young woman Ashley Babbitt, shot without cause by a government coward who is being protected to this day and will never pay for his crime.

    the 4-5 actual deaths came about, as would be normal in such a crowd, of natural causes. YET there are hundreds on innocent people locked up, many in solitary, for no reason except an attempt to vindicate the Democrat false accusations.

    Tucker may be a phoney, ||I don’t care , I don’t know him, but it can’t be denied that what he’s just said on this video is essentially 100% correct.

    Seems like a pseudo- Nazi resurrection to me.

  40. Cruz is a mixed bag. While publicly denouncing and voting against the Iran Deal, he voted to allow it to be passed with a simple majority vote instead of a 2/3 vote in the Senate as with every other treaty change. I only heard him asked about it once and he responded with mumbling double talk. On the other hand, somebody suggested that by doing that, it enabled Trump to get out of it through executive order. Did he think it would pass by 2/3 in what I believe, at the time, was a Republican majority congress? In this case, he seems to be following along with Pence and all of the other judges and Republican officials out of what I am guessing is fear. He has taken some good positions but I don’t think I would want him next to me in a foxhole. Carlson is getting better and better at satire. He’s much wittier than even the conservative comics I have heard.

  41. Cruz made an “unforced error”. He must remember who he is talking to. The Left will manipulate his words no matter his explanations.

  42. What is more shocking is that by now Cruz should know that the “terrorists”, if he insists on this characterization, were associated with the FBI, DOJ, BLM antifa, far right etc., rather than any Trump’s supporters. Very likely 99% of the vandalisers were anti-Trump.

  43. Cruz is something of a puzzle. He’s strong and outspoken occasionally (like in going after Fauci), and other times he makes a complete fool of himself (like his recent comments about Jan 6th). I see him as basically well-intentioned, but eager to please and a waffler. The man has a weak chin even when covered by a beard.

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  44. I just don’t believe friend of Hunter Biden, long time GOP country clubber and the personification of the DC establishment, Tucker Carlson’s sincerity over his newfound populism, a persona he coincidentally adopted upon his signing with FOX news. But of course conservatives across the nation buy into Tucker’s act and blindly worship him and never ever do they question his sincerity despite his pedigree. But Cruz, who has kept his principles as a constitutional conservative throughout his career, makes a verbal misstep and he becomes the worst traitor in the world.

  45. As for Tucker Carlson, he’s a phony opportunist as I’ve said before. He was a long time part of the GOP country club establishment who remade himself into a populist because he saw which way the conservative movement was going, in order to get a show on FOX. Carlson is practically worshipped by conservatives, though he initially questioned whether there was voter fraud. Again, he wanted to keep his ratings, so he eventually did report on it. Cruz has been a solid, principled constitutional conservative his entire career and everybody piles on like a wolf pack over any verbal misstep he makes.

    Oh and let’s not forget Tucker’s friendship with Hunter Biden and him contacting him to get his son into Georgetown. But conservatives will never question Carlson’s sincerity regarding his newfound populism, when in fact he is the DC establishment personified.

    The bottom line is that Carlson is pandering to his audience by piling on Cruz.

  46. I do not like Cruz’ use of that word, but we have very few constitutional conservatives in government, I’m not going to pile on and see him drummed out of office over it. He’s not Liz Cheney or a RINO, he didn’t blame Trump for 1/6 and he sure as hell didn’t support impeachment. In his statement he was just trying to make the larger point about who was really to blame for the breach of the Capitol building.

  47. I really have no idea what Cruz might have been thinking. As Cruz made every effort to run damage control over his words from the day before, Tucker said it best

    I guess I just don’t believe you!