Peloni: Following Carlson’s interview with Candace Owens, this should not be surprising, even as it is it remains quite disturbing: “They don’t care about their country at all”
Carlson’s comments came during an interview with Saagar Enjeti, the conservative host of the popular web series “Breaking Points.”
Tucker Carlson, the populist pundit who led Fox News’s evening lineup until his ouster in April 2023, said in an interview this week that Ben Shapiro of the Daily Wire “[doesn’t] care about the country at all,” accusing him and other pro-Israel voices of being “focused on a conflict in a foreign country as their own country becomes dangerously unstable.”
Carlson rattled off a series of challenges facing the United States– financial instability, insecure borders– and asserted that “they’ve said nothing about that, and they’re focused with laser intensity on foreign conflicts.”
Carlson contrasted this supposed apathy to his own concern for the US: “I have no choice,” he said, “I’m from here, my family’s been here hundreds of years, I plan to stay here— I’m shocked by how little they care about the country, including [Shapiro].”
Carlson’s comments came during an interview with Saagar Enjeti, the conservative host of the popular web series “Breaking Points.”
Enjeti, who hosts the panel show alongside Krystal Ball, a progressive, asked Carlson “what explains this…literal allegiance to narrative on Ukraine, [and] on Israel,” asserting that “so many of these people don’t seem to have this same level of care about actual American citizens.”
In a post to X on Saturday, former American ambassador to Israel David Friedman condemned Carlson’s comments, writing that Shapiro “is an American patriot who cares deeply about our country.” Friedman noted that “among other issues, Ben has been a forceful advocate for closing our Southern border and ending the massive inflow of Fentanyl that is killing our youth,” an apparent allusion to Carlson’s suggestion that Shapiro was neglecting those topics.
“@TuckerCarlson says that since Ben supports Israel he doesn’t care about America,” Friedman wrote. “I hope he doesn’t really mean that. It’s a shameful thing to say and he should apologize.”
Carlson: wealthy people heard a ‘dog-whistle that commanded them to worship Zelensky’
Speaking about Ukraine, Carlson told Enjeti that “every single person in the top one percent for income and influence…heard this weird frequency, this dog-whistle, that commanded them to worship Zelensky, and I’m not exactly sure what that was.”
It was not the first time that Carlson, the 53 year old heir to the Swanson TV dinner fortune, had challenged American support for Ukraine’s wartime leader. On the first episode of his online program following his firing from Fox News, Carlson described Zelensky, who is Jewish, as “sweaty and rat-like, a comedian turned oligarch, a persecutor of Christians, a friend of Blackrock.”
He also referred to him as “shifty,” “dead-eyed,” and as “a person who would enjoy flooding villages or starting a famine.”
“It’s painful to even quote that,” said Ian Bremmer of the Eurasia group, in a response to Carlson’s statements. “These are all antisemitic dog-whistles, with a sprinkling of blood libel, plain and simple.”
The Anti-Defamation League also denounced Carlson’s comments about Zelensky as antisemitic: “This is exactly the type of dangerous, hateful content that has no place in mainstream public squares,” the group said.
@Michael I am also an American citizen who also wants the best for the USA. So correct me if I am wrong in your view that is not possible? That is the view of Tucker.
I agree the USA needs to fix its border and immigration. I vote in US elections and have split my adult living time between the US and Israel. More in US because of a business in US. Sounds like you are saying I should not concern myself about US and only Israel. Correct me if I am wrong on that?
You sound very defensive about Tucker. Nothing false about what I am saying. Seems I made a general comment and you thought it was directed at you. I guess if the shoe fits wear it!
Michael a non answer to my questions above will make it clear what color your heart is towards Jews.
Bear,
Tucker insulted Zelenskyy in pretty much the same way people on Israpundit have. When I was a kid, we used to say,
“Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me”.
Tucker’s main point, and mine, is that as long as the US Treasury continues to be raided and our southern border is wide open, we cannot help anyone — not Israel, not Ukraine, not anyone else — and we are being destroyed as a nation. As much as people like Shapiro, understandably, want us to pour our treasure into Ukraine and Israel, we have a far greater responsibility to protect our own country.
Please allow us Americans to be as concerned about our country, as you are about yours — and lay off the libelous insults.
Thanks, Ted.
@Michael. The reason your comment was held in moderation was because it had too many links.. I think the limit is 4.
I never tolerate or accept people who make excuses for Jew or Israel hatred.
No matter their background.
Ted,
My post of January 4, 2024 at 9:01 am does not appear on the left column, though it does appear in the “comments” window.
Peloni,
Whether or not these charges are false, is up to the courts to decide; and I haven’t seen any of these anti-MAGA attackers pursue that matter there. Until proven otherwise, yes, they are indeed false.
@Michael
The allegations of antisemitism leveled against Carlson ARE NOT FALSE. He is unabashedly describing Shapiro and Israel’s supporters of having dual loyalties due to their support for Israel. This is not something which is being attributed to him, but which he is actually saying. Your desire to save this antisemite from the charge of antisemitism has led you to try to suggest that Carlson’s statements are in someway comparable to those which Trump made while being falsely assailed by Greenblatt and the ADL, and it is only to your discredit that you should try to do so. Carlson’s antisemitic comments here, while being quite clearly made, are not the first time which Carlson has put forward his support of such antisemitic bile. He began to openly embrace this position during his outrageous interview with Candace Owens to whom he extended his platform to extend the reach of her antisemitic polemic and to which Carlson agreed.
It is not OK to be an antisemite, not ever, not for anyone. Antisemitism is not an American value. Jew Hatred is not the path towards making America Great Again, and polluting the MAGA narrative with Jew Hatred aids those who would undue Trump’s movement because Jew Hatred is not consistent with the MAGA agenda, not even slightly. For anyone supporting the MAGA movement, such as yourself, to not be moved to highlight the distinction between false charges of antisemitism made against Trump and the real antisemitism espoused by Carlson and Owens is intellectually lazy and utterly deceitful.
I have watched with great care the entire exchange by Carlson, both in the above interview as well as in his interview with Owens. He is not being smeared as an antisemite, rather he is simply guilty of being an antisemite, despite your best efforts to ignore the Jew Hatred which he has clearly espoused in these conversations. Antisemitism is not part of any solution, it is actually part of the problem which plagues America and the world today.
So it is not I who must wake up, but rather it is you who needs to actually listen to the above interview as well as the one with Carlson and Owens. If you actually agree with the antisemitic diatribes championed in these dialogues, I guess that there is little need to discuss this topic further.
Peloni
Wake up, Peloni. This IS the topic. Show me a popular pro-MAGA blogger who has stood up to censorship by Face Book, YouTube and Twitter, and I will probably be able to show you someone who strongly supports Carlson, Musk, Bongino, Trump, Bannon, and others who, at one time or another, have been called “antisemites”. It’s gotten to the point that I don’t trust anyone who HASN’T been smeared in this way.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/17/trump-history-antisemitic-tropes/
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/12/11/2066895/-Fox-News-host-Dan-Bongino-promotes-anti-Semitic-theory-that-inspired-terrorists
https://muse.jhu.edu/article/662554/summary
https://newrepublic.com/post/172744/elon-musk-goes-full-antisemite-george-soros-dumps-tesla-shares
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/07/08/twitter-gave-free-rein-jack-posobiec-publish-antisemitic-hate-and-disinformation
https://www.instagram.com/mandanadayani/p/CsAnMRPOGrd/
I used to watch Tucker often. His shows were often interesting. He interviewed interesting people and offered new insights to counter often age old stale ideas. I agreed with most of his ideas. But I realized a few years ago that he was also a propagandist. More importantly to (I’m an unapologetic Jewish activist) I noticed that despite his often defence of the little guy, he never once defended Israel who was suffering from constant existential threats from not just Iran but too man suicidal arabs terrorists to count. Unlike Hannity, he never once invited Bibi on his show. After Oct 7 he remained silent. The red lights were many with him. Finally he first interviewed Kanye West and let him get away with spewing real antisemitic vitriol to millions of viewers without even a comment. More recently he interviewed Candace Own and they virtue signalled together subliminally about the wealthy Jews who only care about themselves. Please read my blog post on this: https://leonupsidedown.blogspot.com/2023/11/tucker-carlson-candace-owens-and-ben.html
He needs to be tossed into the trash can. He wins the hypocrite award of the year!
@Reader
“Marcus Garvey and his organization, the Universal Negro Improvement Association (UNIA), represent the largest mass movement in African-American history. Proclaiming a black nationalist “Back to Africa” message, Garvey and the UNIA established 700 branches in thirty-eight states by the early 1920s.”
https://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/tserve/twenty/tkeyinfo/garvey.htm#:~:text=Marcus%20Garvey%20and%20his%20organization,states%20by%20the%20early%201920s.
So, if Jews support our ally Israel, they are disloyal according to fucker carlson. Yet he, the supposed “patriot”, supports our enemy Russia.
Ironic accusation coming from a guy who has chosen to support Putin and Russia against America.
@Seb, interesting the barometer of sports participation via overall acceptance of Jews in society.
My grandfather on my father’s side was a soccer player on a Jewish ONLY Team in Vienna in the 1920s called HaKoach (the Power or Strength in Hebrew). This was a world class level team. Jews were not accepted in Austria in many things (i.e. sports teams). There was a also a quota on how many Jews could be in a trade union.
So I think the barometer is wider than just sports. Workplaces, industries, schools. Accepting Jews as equals.
Jews have excelled in the USA in many professions and industries. Things have been open to them more than in most countries. However they are still outsiders to many, even when admired as a group or individual. Discrimination does not happen on a legal level.
However it is very obvious that from the leftist Universities to the skin head types there is still widespread Jew hatred.
The Pat Buchan’s and now Tucker Carlson are more subtle in their Jew hatred than the Pro Hamas or BLM types. However it is exists and in not insignificant numbers. Carlon’s type of attack may work on the non-intellectual who feels Christian American’s are the victims. They already do not like Jews because so many are Liberals. So they may stick Jews all in one big fishbowl.
Bottom line for Jewish survival in the long run only Israel can work for large numbers of Jews.
@Sebastien Zorn
Can you imagine a podcast on the topic “Do Blacks/Hispanics/Hindus/Poles/… still have a place in American society?”
If Carlson dared to say something even remotely similar about Blacks to what he is saying about Jews, he would cease to exist as a celebrity or even as a meaningful entity immediately and he couldn’t claim freedom of speech or MSM censorship in his defense, and he knows it.
And Michael, the hypocrite, knows this also.
Deeply caring about the United States does not exclude caring about other countries too. As long as not the the detriment to the US.Especially, the US is not an isolated island and its population not a rootless mass. No matter how long one’s family have been living in the United States.
– Jonathan Tobin podcast
“Tobin is joined by historian Jeffrey Gurock of Yeshiva University, whose new book, Marty Glickman: The Life of an American Jewish Sports Legend, discusses the obstacles faced by Jews in that era.
According to Gurock, acceptance of Jews in sports is a barometer for their inclusion in American society. He says that after the Oct. 7 Hamas atrocities in Israel and subsequent surge in antisemitism, the question of Jewish acceptance and the memory of historical Jew-hatred is more important than ever.
Gurock also points out a clear connection to the antisemitism that Glickman faced in the Hitler-run 1936 Berlin games and the massacre of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics. Avery Brundage, the head of the U.S. Olympic Committee in 1936, deprived Glickman and another Jewish sprinter, Sam Stoller, of their opportunity to win almost certain gold medals. Later, it was Brundage who dismissed the massacre of Israelis as insufficient to stop the summer games in 1972 or to honor the victims’ memories appropriately.
While Gurock acknowledged the dire state of affairs with antisemitism on the rise, he believes that the sports world, where outcomes are objectively rather than subjectively determined by equity, demonstrates that Jews have far more allies in 2023 than they did in 1936. That can be seen, he said, in the way professional teams have expressed solidarity with Israel. That is a bright spot in an otherwise dark time.” – Dec. 27, 2023
https://www.jns.org/do-jews-still-have-a-place-in-american-society/
@Michael
Don’t try to pivot or change the topic. We have been specifically speaking about Carlson’s use of the charge of dual loyalty to disarm the arguments being made in support of Israel since October 7, so let us stay on point.
It would appear that you still refuse to recognize the charge of dual loyalty as being antisemitic. I continue to be disappointed in your partisan interpretation of what constitutes Jew Hatred. Antisemitism is not a Left or Right topic, something which should only be eschewed when it opposes one side or the other. In fact it is more important to actually call out such villainy as it appears in those who champion our values than those who oppose us, specifically because our champions represent us, and our silence or support in their exploitation of Jew Hatred implicates us by our silence, or as with you in this moment, with your support.
Peloni,
You should write user agreements for software, or Congressional bills.
I notice that there’s a universal “antisemitism” ouitrage lately, against anyone who opposes media censorship (viz Carlson, Musk, Rogan et al). Only the MSM seems to be exempt.
@Michael
Actually, I am quite fond of America. It was formed from the only revolution which led towards increased liberty without massive bloodshed or enslavement of the people. Indeed it is a great irony that the revolution was targeted against the control of the English govt, but due to careful circumspection and cautious deliberations, America came to be designed around a system which parsed what the Founding Fathers deemed to be the iniquitous aspects of the English system of govt, and by doing so built an entirely new form of government, conserving what was useful and elevating within the old British model and their Judeo-Christian set of values. By doing so, they conserved the kernel of history, heritage and honor around the pursuit of personal liberty with a wary eye to the inevitability of tyrannical temptations. The result was a remarkably important moment for the world, IMO, and I have never tired of admiring its value or import and relevance.
All of this being understood, you may relate to my great anathema for anyone who tries to manipulate, distort of pervert this system or the Judeo-Christian values which it upholds as paramount. I would challenge with ease that, though Carlson has made some very important stands to preserve America from those who would destroy the nation, Carlson has himself acted to distort and pervert those values in pursuit of vilifying his enemies and in the same moment vilified entire subsets of Americans, ie the Jews and the ardent supporters of Israel. To be frank, Ben Shapiro is a man for whom I have limited support, but I think it is fair to expect that we each draw what distinctions lie between us and our opposition without falling to such well and obvious dog whistles as Carlson found to be useful in needlessly mischaracterizing Shapiro as being unpatriotic due to his support for Israel. It was in fact a failing within Carlson’s character which chose this path, a path which fails to judge a man for his actions and instead demonizes him for his faith and/or opinions. This is the antithesis of the meritocracy which America has come to represent, and which Carslon himself would likely describe to be at least part of the essence of what is great and good about America. We need all the support we can find to cherish and champion the return of America to her former greatness, but using antisemitism or antisemites to achieve that goal will only result in the restitution of a perverted distortion of what we are fighting to achieve. This is nothing which I want nor which I would support, and it saddens me to recognize that there are those who believe in America’s greatness but which would walk the road which Carlson and you find to be praiseworthy.
Hence, it is this fact, and not because “[Carlson] sticks up for our country” as you falsely suggest, which drew my ire for Carlson and his loathsome commentary. He has betrayed the very nation which he claims to cherish with his repulsive use of antisemitism to try to gain support for his battle of beliefs with his arch nemesis, Shapiro, and though there are any number of topics upon which I likely disagree with Shapiro, it is Carlson’s calumny which drew my disgust of him, and notably, I am quite shocked that you would defend him as readily as you have done without the slightest hesitancy or qualification, thus making me quite certain that my objection to his distasteful actions in this matter are all the more relevant and important to raise.
Harvard’s ties to the Nazis:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-century-before-claudine-gay-harvard-helped-nazi-germany-improve-its-image-in-the-west/
Zelensky is a good man defending his country which is under invasion by the Russian pigs, second to muslims as the worst people on earth. Fucker carlson and his buddy putin are the pieces of garbage who should go straight to hell.
I’ve always known fucker carlson is a pile of shit. I’ve tried to warn conservatives about following self-proclaimed “conservatives and believing whatever they tell you. He’s an antisemite and conspiracy theorist, which usually go hand in hand. Everything he has ever told his audiences has to be questioned. There’s a very good reason why FOX fired him. They did not want to be associated with such a crackpot.
@Adam
The full interview is posted above if you click on the second photo. Just FYI, and I agree, the full interview is well worth watching.
Fox News fired Carlson because he was about to cause Fox News to lose a lot of money.
He knows perfectly well what he is saying and why – it is stab the Jew and hear him scream (plus legitimize and spread the Jew hatred) which provides great entertainment for the great majority of people and always works, unfortunately.
The Jews play along by getting indignant, trying to get these people fired (which only serves to show them “how powerful the Jews really are”), explaining, educating, giving credit to the Jew haters for expressing a few right ideas, etc.
The country is going openly antisemitic (I don’t like this word but there is no better one) at the highest levels.
I think we should finally do what they accuse us of doing – band together and work for the betterment of our real (Biblical) homeland which is far from perfect but which is a true miracle – one half, ONE HALF! of the world’s Jewish population lives there, it has its own industry, military, etc., etc.
The Jewish prophecies are coming true and whoever doesn’t like it is free to jump into the nearest pond of their choice.
Forget Biden, Trump, Left, Right, Center, Conservative, Liberal, Republican, Democrat – for the rest of the world a Jew is a Jew is a Jew including those who converted to Christianity or those who are staunch atheists.
After all, this website is called ISRApundit, not TheUSpundit.
Not a penny more to their universities, libraries, museums, hospitals, “the poor, persecuted” minorities, backpacks for underprivileged schoolchildren (yes, there is a Jewish organization which buys them every year), political campaigns, and whatever else (fill in the blanks) – all donations must go to support Israel.
All the Jewish students must transfer to other universities from the most antisemitic ones or make aliyah – I heard that if you make aliyah before the age of 27, you get you bachelor’s degree there for free.
If someone calls me a kike, I would answer “Kike and PROUD!”
You have to read or view the full interview with Carlson, rather the brief clip that is views here, to get the anisemitic drift of his argument and his criticisms of Ben Shapiro.He calima that American Jews, or at least conservative American Jews, are exclusively concerned with Israel and don’t care about the United, even though it is their country as well as his. He also complains that American Jews have heaped verbal abuse on him ever since he questioned U.S. aid to Israel. This recapitulates the traditional antisemitic canards that Jews are loyal to ech other, not to their country of birth and citizenship, as well as the canard that they persecute people who criticize them, making it dangerous or costly to do so. Also making the critics heroic upholders of the truth. Actually, critics of Jewish people have rarely if ever been persecuted.
Recently conservatives, including myself, have focused concern about growing antisemitism in the U.S. and elsewhere on the alliance of leftists, balack nationalists and Islamists. The have appeared to be the most tangibible threat to the safety of Jews in the United States. But we should not forget that antisemitism has long been common among rightist Americans as well. Such antisemitic demagogues as Father Coughlin and Westbrook Pegler were antisemites. Even the magazine National Review contained many antisemitic writer and authors, until William F. Buckley took over the publication, fired the antisemites and hired some Jewish reporters. Buckley also more or less became the leader of conservative opinion-makers nationwide. It was only during this era that antisemitism was more or less banished from the conservative mainstream for the next 50-60 years.
Now however, it appears that antisemites to have reinfiltrated the conservative mainstream, led by such prominent opinion-makers as Carlson and Candace Owens reviving it. American Jews, including conservative American Jews, must pay attention to it once again.
Carlson comes from a family with very important connections, he is not someone who walked in from the street and started spouting some crap.
His father worked for the CIA.
Forget about explaining, educating, fighting back, etc. just learn from the last experience, anyway, it has been the same for 3,500 years.
The fact that it has never happen here proves that this place will be next.
Someone posted here recently (quite sarcastically, as I remember) about a German Jew who, while being beaten in the street by the “civilized” Germans, kept showing them his Iron Cross which he was given for his service in WWI; German Jews kept repeating after the war how Germany was the best country in the world for the Jews until Hitler came to power – so what – did this fact revive any of the 6 million dead Jews?
There are more guns in legal possession in the US than people, Jews are powerless against this and who matters more to the politicians – 62 million Hispanics, 45.4 million Blacks, or 4 million Jews?
Zelensky is a piece of garbage
I generally have found Tucker Carlson’s interviews enlightening. I am aware that his father worked for the CIA, and that his upbringing led to his eventual interest in conservative political ideas. I believe he was at one time involved with the CATO institute.
When he began to investigate the COVID virus and harms caused by the COVID gene therapy, he went too far to remain at Fox News.
I was glad he was able to continue his work of investigating and looking into the corruption that is destroying our country at every level of government, but mostly at the federal and state level.
However, he has shown that he is unaware of the hurt his antisemitic statements cause to Jews whether they live in America, Israel, or elsewhere in the world. It is, as all of you have pointed out, an old trope to say that American Jews by definition, are not loyal to the US because their primary loyalty is to Israel. This has been used to devalue and demean Jews as unpatriotic for over a hundred years. I believe General US Grant had a similar view of Jews for which he received plenty of negative feedback, and rightly so.
If a person is antisemitic, that should be seen as a serious character flaw, just as hating Blacks would be a serious character flaw. In fact, In the US it is now completely socially unacceptable for anyone to admit to prejudice against Black Americans or Asian Americans, but apparently it is socially acceptable to have prejudice against Jews.
I think this is a very serious problem in America, and represents another form of corruption of our morals and culture. I do not know the source of Tucker Carlson’s personal anti-Jewish feelings, or what would make him feel that Jews cannot be loyal to both Israel and the US simultaneously.
But even if I did know the source of his animus, it would not change the fact that he has made public statements that are damaging to the US Jewish community.
But while it damages the Jewish community it also damages him. That is what hatred does: it damages both the agent of hatred and the target of hatred.
The people of the US are angry about the loss of our sovereignty, since the criminals who run the government have arrogated to themselves the sovereignty that should be ours as We, the people.
It means we are going to have to fight to get back our sovereignty, and we will need to join together to accomplish this. We will also need God’s help. It is a shame to find ourselves having to fight one another at a time when we need to be uniting in the effort to bring about a renewal of our Constitutional covenant.
Maybe a day will come when Carlson will understand the meaning of his words and the harms they have caused.
I hope that will happen at some point in his life.
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Carlson is an opportunist. It doesn’t matter what he really thinks about anything, he reads the room first. Carlson or his handlers have decided his current position is best for his career and the agenda of his handlers.
He was against Trump before he changed his mind. Of course this happens occasionally, but in this case it’s likely on orders from above.
Regarding the dual loyalty thing, only Jews can’t care about their ethnic group or be seen as disloyal. For instance, NY Prepper refers to his Polish ancestry every 10 minutes and is concerned for Poland in the current war, but he’s an American patriot. No one would see a problem with being a Polish American, but a Jewish American is suspect.
People who think people should only be American and forget family history are literally advocating dissociation and hypocrisy.
I’ve found that there is a subset of Christians in the US and Canada who harbour just a little irritation towards Jews. Exact reason unknown. Most are ill-informed, even if educated and have taken a role as pundits on one forum or other. It’s very disappointing to hear his comments, but I’m not shocked. I think Friedman was right to call him out.
Those of us who understand the Gaza conflict and the goals of Islam understand that what is good for Israel is also good for the U.S.
Carlson is, what I’d call, a “soft core anti-Semite.” You know, the kind who wouldn’t necessarily burn a cross on your lawn, but wouldn’t want you to join their country club or stay at their hotel either. However, he now seems to be driving in the more “hard core” lane, becoming a latter day Father Caughlin. It’s up to reasonable-minded conservatives to call him out for what he is – a Jew-hater – and cast him aside. If they don’t, they’ll allow the Left to get away with equating conservatism with bigotry.
@Reader
https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/232949/american-public-opinion-holocaust.aspx
Which doesn’t mean there wasn’t prejudice or a minority following of antisemitic organizations or a fear of immigrants taking jobs during the Depression, or a reluctance to go to war again, with the memory of WWI still fresh in the minds of many.
America didn’t choose go to war. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and then declared war on the U.S., Germany declared war on the U.S. because it had a mutual defence treaty with Japan. America’s war was mainly with japan. America didn’t actually go to war with Germany until the Normandy invasion, June 6, 1944. Germany surrendered on May 7, 1945. Not even a year. 11 months. But, we don’t remember it that way, culturally because the evidence of the Holocaust was seared into the minds of the world. How soon they forget.
There have been violent attacks on Jews in the U.S., most of it in the last 100 years and most of it by lone individuals, but never anything like the pogroms and expulsions punctuating European history for thousands of years.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/brief-history-anti-semitic-violence-america/574228/
General Grant issued a directive expelling Jews from Tennessee during the Civil War but Lincoln angrily reversed it and Grant later apologized and as president tried to atone for it.
https://reformjudaism.org/redemption-ulysses-s-grant
All four of the Republican presidential candidates who lost to FDR were Christian Zionists who advocated rescue and Jewish statehood in Palestine.
Herbert Hoover
Alf Landon
Wendell Wilkie
Thomas Dewey (governor of NY, there was an Ohio Congressman by the same name who was also a Christian Zionist)
As was LBJ who also forged visas for Jews during the 30s.
“Johnson’s affinity for Jews stemmed from early familial influences – his paternal grandfather and a number of other relatives were members of the Christadelphian movement, a group of fundamentalist Christians who believed Jews would one day return to Palestine and create a new Jewish state.
His grandfather admonished young Lyndon to “Take care of the Jews…. Consider them your friends and help them any way you can.”
https://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/front-page/who-was-the-first-genuinely-pro-israel-u-s-president/2017/08/30/
@Sebastien Zorn
Right.
It can’t happen here…
During WWII 60% of the US population hated Jews more than they hated Germans.
The US made sure to lock the European Jews in Europe to make it easier for the Germans to get rid of them.
I am not going to start about what is going on now.
Keep dreaming.
The Jewish history is cyclical and the cycles have been speeding up, the founders of the US are long dead, and they were an exception.
Carlson is not an exception, take a look at Michael who was impersonating a peace-and-mercy-loving Christian quoting the Scriptures until after October 7 when he lost it, I am not sure why – because God was punishing the Jews and they refused to be punished or something?
@Reader
And which has happened there continually on a smaller scale for thousands of years but never in America. Europe was founded by antisemites, The United States of America was founded by philosemites.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/ldquo-to-bigotry-no-sanction-to-persecution-no-assistance-rdquo
@Peloni, I was about to write something with the same point as you did here:
100% Correct!!
@Bear
Well said!
Notably, the dual loyalty canard is the sixth example cited in the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance working definition of antisemitism. Carlson statement was not an off the cuff remark, but a well considered statement by him, specifically raised to challenge Jews for their support of Israel. There is no reasonable explanation to support his antisemitic positions, none at all.
Of course Carlson is an enormously important champion for the Right, but this does not extend him some form of immunity for making such recklessly harmful statements as these. Rather he bears a greater responsibility for making such statements as it influences others to normalize the hatred which he has espoused against his enemies. Antisemitism is not just vile filth to be chastised by those we oppose, simply because it is convenient to a particular political viewpoint, but rather it should ALWAYS be challenged, no matter the source, no matter the context. It is even more important to raise objections to statements such as “They don’t care about their country at all” when they are made by our allies and champions than when they are made by our enemies. Some will manipulate their opinions to excuse such blatant antisemitism as espoused by Carlson, but I would suggest that it does not speak well of them to do so.
@Michael you are making bad analogies and arguments trying to rationalize Tucker Carlson’s Jew hatred.
That I am sorry to say reflects badly on you. I do not care about people’s religious beliefs unless they do harm.
Why should any Jew including myself forgive Tucker for something he regularly does intentionally. He is trying to harm Jews and Israel by saying a Jew can not be pro Israel and yet be loyal to the USA. Which is pure antiSemitism. This is an old trick of Jew haters trying to turn people against Jews.
You should stop trying to defend Carlson and do some reflection on what we the commentators are telling you here. Tucker is a Jew hater and not our friend even if he is very articulate and popular with right wingers.
By the way I would bet a lot of money that Friedman would have zero problem with someone critiquing Soros for ACTIONS. Carlson is getting critiqued for using antiSemtic canards against Jews!!
You appear to say that Jews criticizing Tucker Carlson is like criticizing your Jesus. Is that true you believe Carlson is another version of the Messiah on earth?
Or you believe he is a god? Matters not to me just curious!!
@Michael
Yes, well it seems you read so little of the article that you mis-attributed comments about the Green Tshirt war profiteer to Friedman who never made any statement about Zel. It seems to be a proclivity of some to assume the content of articles rather than to read them, supplying them with all sorts of false assumptions, such as you did here.
@Michael
Utter nonsense and quite irrelevant to anything relating to Carlson’s polemic against those who support Israel in her current struggle for survival.
@Michael
Hi, Bear
I’ve seen posters on Israpundit over the years, ridiculing Jesus and Christians for the doctrine of loving one’s enemies. Of course, you must know that it’s this very teaching that gives me the grace to put up with some people here. It seems that some of these have come up with a “superior”, more “godly” doctrine: “Hate your friends”. Welcome to Chelm!
Yes, Friedman took issue with Carlson reviling Zelensky — actually in roughly the same language that Peloni and Felix have used here. I imagine that Friedman would also take exception to criticizing George Soros as “Antisemitism!!!”
Play whatever game you want to. Just remember that unforgiveness is like taking poison, and expecting it to hurt the other person. It only hurts you.
@Michael feel free to that Carlson is godlike that is your choice. To me he is very clearly a Jew hater. If you do not see it, maybe you are not separating someone who says somethings you like is popular but is an antiSemite.
I will call out people like Tucker who are very clearly a Jew haters! He is doing the typical dual loyalty bullshit of antiSemites.
“The American Jewish Committee (AJC) and B’nai B’rith International on Wednesday condemned right-wing talking head Tucker Carlson for his description of Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky as “rat-like” and a “persecutor of Christians,” along with other antisemitic tropes during the debut of Carlson’s new opinion show.”
B’nai B’rith International told The Algemeiner Wednesday that Carlson “is recklessly trafficking here in antisemitic tropes.”
“These kinds of charged polemics only feed negative perceptions of Jews and add to a climate of bigotry,” they said.
@Sebastien Zorn
It sure looks like the Higher Authority is trying to warn us again, and I hope this time we will listen before our host countries start with their new improved versions of the Nuremberg Laws, etc.
@Reader Aliya is up. Though it’s really just a few people from here. This article is from November 29, 2023. Even from Hungary which has had few antisemitic incidents and has banned pro-pal protests!
https://themedialine.org/by-region/despite-or-because-of-war-interest-in-immigration-to-israel-very-high/
Though, personally, Ah aint goin’ nowheres. To the canard of dual loyalty I plead proudly guilty as charged just like every other ethnic group here including Anglos like Carlson and probably Michael whatever his background and in the words of “Maxwell Smart” : “And loving it.” ? That’s part of what America’s about. I feel not the slightest need to choose and I don’t believe Michael, Carlson, Owens, Clapton, and a noisy minority , many of them foreign Muslims and leftists are representative, fake polls notwithstanding.
In response to:
Reader:
“Michael’s comments here and elsewhere on this site prove that I was right when I said:
In any country Jews are aliens with citizenships who fool themselves into thinking that it is their country and they are the same as everybody else and it cannot happen here.
For Michael Jews are not Americans, they are just that “Semitic minority that no other country seems to want” and who denigrate Americans by suggesting that not all Americans are like the ones he deems them to be.
I think it is time to stop arguing and start thinking hard about what happened in Europe less than a century ago.”
Carlson is one of the most popular people in America, and for good reason — he sticks up for our country. People who hate America tend to hate him. Case in point: Peloni.
Concerning Ben Shapiro, whom I agree with on some issues, he had a blowout recently with Candace Owens, in which they were trying to decide which of them was the biggest victim. I don’t know who won, and I don’t care.
Bear, I’m really surprised at you. Call everyone in the world “Jew haters”. If that helps you sleep at night, suit yourself. If that makes you hate everyone else in the world, does that make you more virtuous than them? Some people believe boys are girls, good is bad, and up is down. Pick your choose. But if you hate a man for loving America, I think that means you hate America.
BTW. I love God, and hate the devil. Choose your team.
I just read a little of the article. I think it’s ridiculous that David Friedman, whom I otherwise deeply respect, takes Carlson’s attacks on Zelenskyy as “Antisemitic dog whistles.” This, after month after month of the likes of Peloni doing much the same thing. What I see in all this, is just a lot of people spewing hate: Jews spewing hate, gentiles spewing hate, “mostly peaceful demonstrators” spewing hate. It all seems such sport to them.
As I said, choose your team: God or the devil.
These foolish comments remind one of one of Sir Francis Bacon’s statements; namely, that man is given two eyes, two ears and one mouth that he should see and hear twice as much as he should say. Or, to bring the sentiment into the twentieth century, one is reminded of Mr Speaker Sam Rayburn’s thought: you never have to explain what you don’t say.
Carlson is a Jew and Israel hater! Classic antiSemite accusing Jews of disloyalty!