T. Belman. Just because the MSM jumped on Trump’s remarks, doesn’t mean they are right. Of course, if there is nothing untoward, Trump will accept the results. But should there be substantial fraud affecting the results, Trump is signalling that he may contest. Of course Trump will wait for the election before announcing whether he accepts the results. Its only prudent. Had he replied, “Barring no fraud, of course I will accept the results.”, he would not have been subject to the same attack. But it means the same thing.
GOP senators, Republican National Committee scramble after candidate’s comments, promise to ‘respect the will of the people’
BY JONATHAN LEMIRE AND BILL BARROW, TOI
Donald Trump’s allies struggled late Wednesday to defend his refusal at the final presidential debate to say he will honor the results of the November election should he lose, with condemnation arriving from both Republicans and Democrats alike.
Sean Spicer, the chief strategist of the Republican National Committee, which is supplying much of the Trump campaign’s get out the vote and voter outreach efforts, said the national party would “respect the will of the people.”
“I cannot speak for what he thinks,” Spicer said.
South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham said in a statement that “Mr. Trump is doing the party and the country a great disservice” by suggesting the election is rigged, while Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake called the New York billionaire’s statements “beyond the pale.”
After spending the past few weeks claiming without evidence that the November election will be “rigged” in favor of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, Trump was asked directly by Fox News anchor and debate moderator Chris Wallace if he would concede should he lose to Clinton.
“I will look at it at the time,” Trump said. When pressed moments later, Trump added simply: “What I’m saying is that I will tell you at the time. I will keep you in suspense.”
Clinton called Trump’s comments “horrifying.”
Billionaire Mark Cuban, one of Clinton’s top supporters, called Trump’s words “a slap in the face of every American in the history of this country, the Constitution and our democracy.”
“That’s what we’re proud of,” he said. “So, for him to question that, that’s disqualifying.”
Trump’s remarkable comments came just hours after his running mate, Indiana Governor Mike Pence, said on CNN “that we’ll certainly accept the outcome of this election.” And Trump’s daughter Ivanka, arguably his most influential adviser, said earlier Wednesday that her father would “do the right thing” when she was asked if he would concede after a defeat in November.
The debate answer left his own team scrambling in the aftermath of the debate. Kellyanne Conway, his campaign manager, at first responded to questions about the comment by saying he “would accept the results, because he’ll win the election.”
“So, you know, absent widespread fraud and irregularities, then, we’ll see,” Conway said. “What he’s saying is we have to see what happens.”
She later rejected the outcry over Trump’s comment, saying it’s “not fair” to suggest Trump is undermining the prospects of a peaceful transfer of power.
“You’ve got to listen to everything he said,” she argued. “Al Gore did not accept the results of the elections and he said he would. He actually conceded to George W. Bush on election night in 2000 and then called and retracted his concession.”
Gore pulled back his concession only after updated vote count results in Florida showed the state too close to call, throwing the outcome of the election into doubt. When the U.S. Supreme Court later halted a recount, leaving Bush ahead in Florida and giving him the election, Gore conceded and asked the country to accept Bush as the nation’s next leader.
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, another of Trump’s top allies, said the Republican nominee had good reason to be suspicious about potential fraud. “There are indications of a lot of fraud around by the Clintons,” Giuliani said.
In fact, there is no proof that voter fraud is a widespread problem in the United States. A study by a Loyola Law School professor found that out of 1 billion votes cast in all American elections between 2000 and 2014, there were only 31 known cases of impersonation fraud.
Sebastien Zorn Said:
I want you understand that I DO NOT ALWAYS VISIT A MANS PLACE , even when invited.
@ honeybee:
honeybee, it seems the catholic church is in the business of campaigning for Clinton. It is not the message but the messenger. Is not a law that says religious institution should not be involved in politics. They could loose their tax exempt status. Separation of Church and State.
http://www.tmn.today/2016/10/pope-benedict-xvi-forbid-catholics-voting-hillary/?source=Rob
@ honeybee:
honeybee Said:
I gather you were one of the three people who visited my site since this exchange was posted. I am humbly honored. Sebastien Zorn Said:
https://youtu.be/EzVxsYzXI_Y
@ Sebastien Zorn:
Keep your day job !!!!!!!!!!
mar55 Said:
Since you mention it, I do have a humor blog on WordPress — no politics, or at least serious politics — that I’ve been keeping on and off for the last couple of years. I have wisely disabled the comments. And, yes, I know it needs editing; I’ve been too lazy. But, for what it’s worth its: https://pinchinat.wordpress.com/
mar55 Said:
Know this one? It’s a chestnut but I’ll take a chance:
@ bernard ross:
LBJ brought electricity to South Texas !!!!!!!!!!! Need I say more.
@ honeybee:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/entertainment/books/1990/03/04/the-mystery-of-ballot-box-13/70206359-8543-48e3-9ce2-f3c4fdf6da3d/
?
honeybee Said:
no but he had a rep for “getting things done”
@ bernard ross:
LBJ tweaked something mighty in Texas. Ever read about the voting rolls in Duvall, County.
honeybee Said:
Jamaica….. and they were a democracy with elections too…. they tweaked it a little.
mar55 Said:
Pleeeeeeeeeeze I am the only comedienne on the pundit.
I was born in Chicago, due to the extreme negligence of my Mother.
@ mar55:
If you have to ask, no.
“@ Sebastien Zorn:
Sebastien, I have to leave the film for later. I’m going to share it with a couple of people at my shul. Are you as funny
as the Latma episodes?”
bernard ross Said:
Tex/Mex border ??????
@ Sebastien Zorn:
Sebastien, I have to leave the film for later. I’m going to share it with a couple of people at my shul. Are you as funny
as the Latma episodes?
bernard ross Said:
send them to me, I need catfish bait.
@ mar55: Obama Loves Israel-Latma TV https://youtu.be/QGvKpD29a2g
Many Latma routines are available on Youtube with English Subtitles and they are priceless. Hope you feel better.
“Latma is very funny. I do not speak Hebrew and their antics are so good that often I find myself laughing. Congratulations!”
I have not been very well.”
@ mar55:
I got an error message and I can’t try to find it some other way, because I don’t know what it’s called. It’s always helpful to provide the title and quote a little of what you are responding to — because the comments are not always consecutive. “MUST SEE! This is making political satire GREAT!!! Hillaryous !” I also recommend selecting and copying what you write (control a for select all, control c for copy then click on a blank space to de-select) before sending, in case it doesn’t go through for any reason. Then, you can just hit control V to paste it, and you may have to edit it, because it won’t go through if it’s too long.
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed /mPG0jk_uxNc?rel=0
@ Sebastien Zorn:
Latma is very funny. I do not speak Hebrew and their antics are so good that often I find myself laughing. Congratulations!
I have not been very well. Today I’m missing shul altogether.
I enjoy going to the late afternoon service to end Shabbat and today is not possible.
Regular service is full of people who their presence has more to do with showing off than religion. In the afternoon we have our regulars and some of the young people often participate. We pray, share a very light supper and we talk. We share, sing and back to chapel.
Last Monday and Tuesday were very enjoyable. I went only in the morning. Next Monday and Tuesday the same. Life is wonderful even when you are old.
@ bernard ross:
The French’s tanks have two choices. Neutral and reverse. When they cannot manage, they call the Americans for help. After everything is solved, go back to hate the Americans.
Keep reminding us how terrible we are to spend so much money in our military. They spend more in social works and in giving the workers very long paid vacations. Meanwhile the reason they have so much money to spend in social work is because they depend on NATO. They depend on us to do the spending while they can have an easier life.
The video was muslims rioting in Paris. The musloids turned the vehicles to make it impossible for the police or anyone to go into the muslims only zones. A policeman who was wounded had to be carried out by other policemen because the
ambulance could not reach him.
During many years they kept giving them welfare and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
We had for a while health savings account and when my husband had a knee replacement we use them. It was helpful.
I think that allowing the people to get medical insurance at other states where the rates might be cheaper could work. Competition has always worked.
Trump relies on many different people and opinions to conduct his business. If he does the same as President we will have an efficient government. He has created many jobs in his business. I would love to see Giuliani as AG. He takes no prisoners.
He was a good mayor in NY.
Just on the security and the military I’ll vote for Trump.
Thank you for your always well thought comments.
@ mar55:Bingo! All anybody could talk about in the early ’80s on the Left was Gramsci. (They tried the New School Stuff in the 60’s and ’70s. It didn’t empower them so they dropped it) But Gramsci works. It wasn’t unconscious. Also, Thomas Kuhn, who coined the term, “Paradigm” which people were using to the point where I thought I would tear my hair out. I thought they were just being pretentious. Now, I understand.
Caroline Glick has taken that head on:
“In 2009, I founded the Hebrew-language satirical media criticism website Latma, (latma.co.il). Latma uses satire to critique the Israeli and Western media’s radical leftist bias. The concept guiding Latma is that the main reason the Left is able to force Western societies to agree to its crazy policies is because the Left controls popular culture, and through that control, leftists dictate what is cool and what is not, and what is socially acceptable and what is not. That power in turn intimidates people into accepting policies and positions that they oppose morally and intellectually.”http://carolineglick.com/caroline-b-glick/
This 1969 Satirical Film, about an advertising company that gets taken over by a radical Black Leftist executive, though couched in the language of the time, was really quite ahead of its time in showing things to come:
Putney Swope, Directed by Robert Downey, Sr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPgId7RgQ2E
this one shouldn’t have the edges cut off: https://youtu.be/OPgId7RgQ2E
@ Sebastien Zorn:
That is also where the US Marines anthem comes from.
All this originated in Italy with Gramsci’s ideology followed by the New School in Frankfurt, Germany. During the second World War they moved to Columbia University giving birth in the US to all the liberalism we have today. It is more complicated than that but, when you analyze the history of this crazy thinking it all goes back to the origin. Italy. This forum has people with common sense. Something very rare nowadays.
Obama Christian? My foot. Amalec. A bastard son of a muslim.
I have been for the last few months disseminating information to help TRUMP. Just the thought of Hillary who had the nerve to scream at Bibi for 45 minutes frightens me.
She is anti ISRAEL and anti anything decent. That word does not exist in her vocabulary or behavior.
@ bernard ross:
You mean from her emails? That makes sense. Whew! What a relief! I guess, it’s ok, then.
“I would think the russians and chinese already know about the 4 minutes”