Trump Reportedly Refuses to Disavow Antisemite Nick Fuentes Despite Advisers’ Pleas

T. Belman.  I don’t believe this.

Sources tell The Guardian that Trump ‘fears he might alienate a section of his base’ by renouncing Fuentes, after the former U.S. president had dinner with the Holocaust revisionist and Kanye Westnew-hdc-logo

Haaretz  Nov 28, 2022


Nick Fuentes, left, former President Donald Trump and Kanye West.

Donald Trump has refused to disavow Nick Fuentes, the notorious antisemite and white supremacist, with whom he met at his Mar-a-Lago resort, according to two people familiar with the situation, The Guardian reported on Monday.

The two talked over dinner, which was also attended by Ye, the performer formerly known as Kanye West, who has also been called out recently for antisemitic remarks.

According to The Guardian, Trump rejected “the advice from advisers over fears he might alienate a section of his base.” The former U.S. president has neither totally disavowed nor criticized Fuentes on his Truth Social account, “despite efforts from advisers who reached Trump over the Thanksgiving holiday,” the British newspaper noted.

“Trump ultimately made clear that he fundamentally did not want to criticize Fuentes – a product of his dislike of confrontation and his anxiety that it might antagonize a devoted part of his base – and became more entrenched in his obstinance the more he was urged to do so.”

Milo Yiannopoulos, the white supremacist and right-wing provocateur, took a different angle on the meeting.

“Nick and Ye didn’t discredit Trump’s 2024 campaign with that dinner meeting,” he posted on Gab. “Trump did that himself by having the most boring low energy announcement speech in history. He did it by continuing to suck the boots of the Jewish powers that be who hate Jesus Christ, hate our country, and see us all as disposable cattle according to their ‘holy’ book.”

Yiannopoulos added: “Trump WILL start putting Jesus Christ first in His campaign messaging or he WILL be left in the dust of someone who does. It’s that simple. We’re done putting Jewish interests first.”

Last week, Trump confirmed that he had dinner with Kanye West and Holocaust revisionist Fuentes at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida. Fuentes has publicly questioned the number of Jews killed by the Nazis.

The far-right extremist applauded Trump and urged him to adopt a more outlandish stance on the campaign trail in 2024. The New York Times and Axios reported on Trump’s appreciation of Fuentes over the meal. Trump is “very impressed with Nick Fuentes,” West later claimed.

The meeting would likely go down as Trump’s most notable affiliation with radicals who have a history of making explicit antisemitic remarks.

While lawmakers from both American parties, organizations, and Jewish leaders strongly denounced the former U.S. president for hosting avowed antisemites, the majority of the Republican party chose a more opportunistic course of action: either criticizing the meeting’s occurrence without mentioning Trump by name, dismissing it as politically unwise, or remaining completely silent.

The Republican Jewish Coalition, which disavowed other GOP officials for collaborating with Fuentes and recently hosted Trump (via satellite), made its own criticisms without mentioning Trump by name.

“We strongly condemn the virulent antisemitism of Kanye West and Nick Fuentes, and call on all political leaders to reject their messages of hate and refuse to meet with them,” it said.

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  1. “Racializing Antisemitism:
    Black Militants, Jews, and Israel, 1950–Present”
    Eunice G. Pollack

    “Enforcing ideological conformity, one Afro-American Studies department conducted what some dubbed an “inquisition,” when it discovered that in his recent book a faculty member, an African-American Jew, had condemned what he considered the novelist James Baldwin’s antisemitic statements. He escaped the siege and was spared “a trial” only by agreeing to transfer to the Judaic Studies department.”

    https://sicsa.huji.ac.il/sites/default/files/sicsa/files/acta36_pollack.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3CYlrxfkrJEyY9QTitkKYTHMvgJPfmsGnh1-t17Q-fDaf6OKExYjXWE00

  2. @Reader Actually, it is a book that somebody posted as a PDF which is the only reason I wouldn’t recommend Ted post it as there might conceivably be copyright issues involved. There is also an archive of her articles at JNS which also comes up if you google her name. Her article on Whoopie Goldberg is also enlightening. WG’s views are not the prodiuct of ignorance but part of the mainstream of black nationalist thought going back to Elijah Mohammed’s alliance with Nasser in 1957 and then propagated and expanded upon by Malcolm X not only before but afterhis Mecca trip where he supposedly abandoned racism and manifested today by BLM, West, Irving, WG and Co.

    She is an important contemporary historian and commentator. Thanks for the find.

  3. @Ted Belman
    @Sebastien Zorn

    The article about significance of the Jewish votes proves the Republican point that “The #$& Jews don’t vote for us anyway”, and Trump is a Republican especially beloved by the lowest common denominator conservative (see: Ye, Fuentes, Proud Boys, etc.) in addition to some of the regular conservatives.

    You have no idea of the real level of antisemitic feeling and tradition among the Blacks and other Americans – that’s why I recommended the JNS articles by Eunice G. Pollack (and others) which nobody here wanted to read.

    You are making the usual Jewish mistake of assuming that there is a small proportion of bad people called “antisemites”.

    In reality, there is a majority of basically decent people who simply cannot stand the Jews (I found this out when I got to work with them as my colleagues) but they keep quiet until things get bad and they have to take out their grief and frustration on the usual scapegoat.

    The tide has turned.

    We are in that cycle of the Jewish history which is going to be very, very bad for the Jews of the Diaspora (I am not saying that it is going to be trouble-free for Israel but in WWII the Jews there didn’t experience the German atrocities).

    I already mentioned here that Trump could be trying to wash away the “stain” of being too chummy and friendly to the Jews to prove that he is not beholden to them.

  4. @Sebastien Zorn

    I LOVE THE JNS ARTICLES!!!

    I was trying to get everyone here to read them and, apparently, in vain!

    Especially the ones by Eunice G. Pollack, look in Chit-Chat for the links.

  5. Yes Trump castigated liberal Jews who voted Democrat even after he did so many good things for Jews. Remember his daughter and son-in-law are liberal Jews. His condemnation of them was not antisemitic, He was simply complaining that they were ungrateful. But we, on the right also complain about the liberal Jews.
    The Jewish vote has never been important but Jewish money is.. It mostly goes to the democrats.
    Blacks number 41 million and Hispanics number 62 million in the US. Trum0p is focussed on winning them over and he is succeeding big time.
    He already has the evangelicals who number 90 million.
    There is no upside for Trump to have dinner with these three individuals. It can only tarnish him. Look what happened to Kanye after he showed himself to be antisemitic..I was surprised and heartened by the rejection of Kanye..
    Were Trump to disavow all antisemites and white supremicists can only help him not hurt him.
    If he calls Kanye out on his antisemitism, it will earn him more support, not less.

  6. @READER-

    I’m getting”slow”, as I don’t quite understand your response.. Whichever way you described the situation, it just happens that the situation was not as you thought, therefore not valld.

    Not your fault. There was just a lot more to the story than you either knew (I think you did know) or posted. It was based on a false assumption.

    Regardless of your murky comment about conversion, that fact remains that Von Epstein was a Catholic, not a Jew. AND…this is actually a false trail because it is fully documented that when Albert was conceived, the Goerings had been away together for the vital months in fact for well over a year., Albert had to have been started during that time. He was a Goering, not an Epstein.

    If he had been sired by Epstein, he still would not have been a Jew, He’d have been a Catholic, which I believe he was anyway. His mother was from Bavaria, which has always been a Catholic State and Epstein was a Catholic.

    Otherwise, he was a human freak of nature, which he wasn’t, being dissolute, a heavy boozer, libertine,4 times married -and 3 times divorced..

    Not that it’s worth arguing about. Let it drop.

  7. I have to admit that I was sucked in by “the report”, without knowing the full context. I can understand (and perhaps even excuse) Trump’s meeting with “Ye” to discuss business. I guess the question then becomes, did Ye set up Trump by bringing in the other two guys, without giving him adequate opportunity to vet the unannounced guests, or was Ye just hanging out with his homies that evening? Too bad Trump couldn’t summon up enough political savy to think it over before allowing the other two guys to join the party. The whole affair opens up a Pandora’s box of new unanswered questions about Donald Trump.

    @peloni1986

    ….all the historic steps which Trump took to support and protect the Jews in America and in Israel, both.

    There is no question that Trump did many good things for Israel while he was president, which makes this new episode all the more strange.

  8. @Reader

    Trump is courting tens or hundreds of millions of non-Jewish voters (most of whom are prejudiced in some way against the Jews) vs. ~1 million Jewish voters.

    Wrong. Trump’s pro-Israel base which is largely made up of Evangelicals is far greater than the 1 million Jews you keep referencing. Also, Trump does not need to endorse or support antisemitism to gain the Black vote. As with his pro-Israel base, his actions brought the Blacks to support him, and they will do so again, despite the fact that he is not an antisemite.

    Do you really think that Trump’s saying or doing something which the Jews find offensive would ruin his reelection chances!?

    I think it would be inconsistent with his nature, and certainly inconsistent with the expectations of his pro-Israel base. He wouldn’t do it for a number of reasons, but I won’t list them for you since you want me to keep it bekitzur.

    This is like saying that the Jews are so POWERFUL that offending 1 million of Jewish voters can cause someone to lose a presidential election!

    Straw man. You are assuming something that I never said, which I don’t believe, and I would argue against. Speak to what I did say.

    Think about it!

    I thought about it. Your thesis is unconvincing by leaps and bounds and based upon the most trivial of evidence while ignoring mountains of evidence to the contrary.

    Hope this was bekitzur enough for you.

  9. @Peloni There was considerable confusion and even lying with regard to promises of sovereignty bringing to mind GW Bush’s worthless assurances.

  10. @Sebastien
    You seem to have added a second limb to the post I responded to earlier.

    Regarding Huckabee, he would be an interesting choice if chosen, but he has no chance or likely interest in challenging Trump for control of the party and likely little appeal to the non-conservative members of Trumps coalition.

    Regarding the report of Trump backing a TSS, that was the Trump plan. He also said that he would not force the parties to accept his plan. He made good on both these premises. As Ted suggested previously, the Trump plan was destined to fail because the Pals will not sign onto any plan. This would leave Israel with the 70% of Yesha and once Mudar came to power, the JO would be operational. If Mudar did not come to power, it would still have left Israel with the 70% of Yesha, Oslo would be dead, and Trump’s TSS would be dead as well.

    One thing more to consider. The claims of politicians are always more impressive on the campaign trail than their actions are as president. Indeed, the only one whose campaign claims were less impressive than their presidential actions has been Trump. Desantis’ statement with regards to Yesha does remind me of the statement by W, and Clinton before him, that he would move the embassy to Jerusalem. Perhaps Desantis would follow thru on his claims of supporting Yesha as being Israeli, but given the fact that his backers are all the regular Globalist money men behind W, I seriously doubt he would/could break with them to support Israel’s control over Yesha, but as I explained in my earlier post to you, he would never become president, and that is the point of them backing him.

    Again, just my own views, such as they are.

  11. @peloni

    Trump is courting tens or hundreds of millions of non-Jewish voters (most of whom are prejudiced in some way against the Jews) vs. ~1 million Jewish voters.

    Do you really think that Trump’s saying or doing something which the Jews find offensive would ruin his reelection chances!?

    This is like saying that the Jews are so POWERFUL that offending 1 million of Jewish voters can cause someone to lose a presidential election!

    Think about it!

    P.S.

    If you respond, please make it bekitzur (short) because I get too tired reading it.

  12. @Peloni

    consider that the antisemites who used this occasion to implicate Trump with their company, did so to damage him and prevent him from returning to power and thereby prevent him from continuing to invoke his world view upon the world, which is completely contrary to the interests of the antisemites in question?

    Hmmm. Interesting thesis. The plot thickens. Or, it could be that they are just relating to each other as friends and forgetting that they live in a glass fish bowl and were afflicted with what I have dubbed, “Fourth Wall Syndrome.”

    “The fourth wall is a conceptual barrier between those presenting some kind of a communication and those receiving it. The term originated in the theater, where it refers to the imaginary wall at the front of the stage separating the audience from the performers.”

    I’ve seen it a lot as a musician in events where musicians say inappropriate things to one another because they are so used to blocking out the audience, they forget they are there and that they are miked. We see this with politicians all the time. People assume these gaffes are deliberate.

    In the late 40s or early 50s, there was a tv or radio show for kids that went off the air because the host said, “that oughta hold th little bastards.”

    Also the movie wih andy griffith

  13. @Edgar G.

    My reasoning and conclusion are still correct IF the situation was as I described it (about Hermann Goering’s brother).

    The gist of the matter is that just because someone’s close relative converted and his or her family chooses to keep the relationship instead of severing it, this doesn’t mean that the family is happy about it, or even accepts it and no longer harbors any prejudices about the religion the relative chose.

  14. @Reader

    I don’t ”believe” things, I look at the facts and try to analyze them objectively.

    In your non-belief based objective analysis, you seem to have overlooked a great deal.
    Indeed, your absurd comparison of Trump’s relationship with his daughter to Goering treating his brother well, irregardless of the brother’s faith or heritage, ignores all the historic steps which Trump took to support and protect the Jews in America and in Israel, both. Among the facts which are not addressed in your Goering comparison are the following:
    -Trump provided new protections for every American Jew by extending Title VI protections.
    -Recognized the Golan.
    -Recognized the Jerusalem.
    -Offered 70% of Yesha (temporarily) to Israel which invoked a legal recognition by the US for the first time ever.
    -Passed Talor Force Act.
    -Defunded PA.
    -Defunded UNWRA.
    -Ended JPOA.
    -Executed Soleimani and his several of his henchmen.
    -Joined Israel to Centcom to increase Israeli-Arab collaboration.
    -Left UNHRC because of their attacks on Israel.
    -Sanctioned the ICC members because of their lawless investigations against Israel.
    -Closed the PA consulate in Jerusalem.
    -Closed the PLO mission in Washington.
    -Signed Memorandum of Understanding with Bahrain to combat antisemitism.
    -Specifically addressed the rise of US antisemitism in his State of Union address.

    This is but a short, non-encompassing list of accomplishments which directly affect Jews and which are wholly ignored by your clever-by-half evaluation which would seem to leave your cost-benefit analysis somewhat lacking in benefits. But feel free to enlighten us all on how these accomplishments seem to be upstaged in your research, by a single dinner.

    It is indeed concerning that anyone would suggest that Trump is an antisemite, but your suggestion is that he is not an antisemite, but actually courting antisemitism as a political hat trick. I would suggest that this is one of the most ridiculous comments anyone could possibly make, particularly with regards to Trump. Based on a single dinner, no less.

    What self respecting antisemite would be attracted to someone who has done so much for the Jews? Would it not be a better use of your analytic skills to consider that the antisemites who used this occasion to implicate Trump with their company, did so to damage him and prevent him from returning to power and thereby prevent him from continuing to invoke his world view upon the world, which is completely contrary to the interests of the antisemites in question?

  15. Has it occurred to anyone that Trump has been making all these noises about Netanyahu (his (former?) good friend), and how the Jews have been ungrateful to him unlike the Evangelicals, and meeting Ye and Fuentes because it looks like he might have done TOO MUCH for the Jews (and has gotten an award from them), so he doesn’t want to look to his majority base like a Jewish puppet?

    I know this aspect is difficult to grasp but give it a try.

  16. @READER-

    The purported Jewish half brother is not exactly a cut-and-dried matter. Albert was officially Herman Goering’s younger brother born 2-3 years after him. He grew up as a Goering, and there was never any question about whether he was Jewish. He was a different person than his Nazi brother and openly opposed them. Yet, according to other family members, Hermann gave him much help when he needed it, right through the war.

    When the Goerings’ father was away for a protracted time, their mother found a lover, a Catholic convert from Judaism, named Von Epstein…
    Albert was born a year later, but the several months during which Albert would HAVE to have been conceived, have conclusively been shown to have been when his mother was accompanying his father, so this is a dead issue. Albert Goering was NOT a Jew.

    Even assuming that Catholic Von Epstein was his father, all that can be claimed is that he had some Jewish blood.

    THIS is the only “evidence” that Goering had a Jewish half-brother

    Epstein was a Catholic. The daughter’s “revelation” should be dismissed as fantasy, It was not popular to be a Goering, and Israel had destroyed all her enemies in 1967 and was wildly popular.. Albert died shortly after that.

    There had been ample time for this “news” to have ben released by the daughter, or wvwn Albert, but…….

    This is my own opinion.

  17. @Sebastien
    Good questions…Lets look at them.
    Yes, Owens and others have made the statement that Trump is too old to be Social Media savvy, even as his Twitter account goes back to 2009 and he made some very notable tweets in the decade between then and now. Has Kushner been holding his Social Media hand all this time? I don’t think so.

    He doesn’t have Kushner by his side now.

    Not true. Kushner was at the front of the crowd at Trump’s announcement on Nov 17. Actually, I don’t know how this will play out with Trump and Kushner in a new campaign, if what is claimed about Trump wanting but unable to sack Kushner is true, but I doubt Trump would pass on Kushner, given that Kushner has successfully handled two ground breaking campaigns for him.

    He can’t bring himself to reject anyone who says he likes him,clearly. He’s a loyal friend but at best, he is coming across as politicaly clueless.

    I think that Trump is a good friend, and that is a weakness for him which has been exploited by many, including Ye.

    Has his time passed?

    A recent poll showed Trump with 70% of the vote with the others all sharing less than 30%, so no, his time is not passed (more on this below).

    the election of 2020 was stolen from him and yes he has been and continues to be railroaded but is that enough of a reason to continue to support him?

    By itself, I would say absolutely not. But there is a greater context that you are ignoring, or at least not stating. Trump is the anti-Uniparty candidate. This is how he campaigned in 2016 as well as 2020, and it is how he governed after he became president. It is why so many people openly committed treason, among other crimes, while he was in office, and are still doing so, now, to keep him from even having a chance to get back in. There are many people who claim to be anti-Uniparty, but none of them are, in fact, capable of replacing Trump. Trump has a connection with people from many walks of life, Union members from the Rustbelt, farmers from the midwest, and the good old conservatives of the South. He was able to build a coalition which pierced the Dem Blue Wall in 2016, and increased those gains in 2020. Who else can do this? DeSantis? No. Pompeo? No. Pence, or Hailey? Hell No! Name one person who has the appeal to draw voters in these various geographical areas in such numbers that they will overcome the fraud and beat the rigging of the system. None of them can. Who has the abilty to take the Trump voter from Trump and survive against the Dem control of the system? No one. It remains to be seen if Trump can, but he at least can get the voters to the polls. In how many states did Desantis campaign in this last election? How many candidates were seeking his endorsement? And yet he was given a Uniparty $200 million warchest. Why would that be? If he has so limited of an appeal among the Trump movement, what could be the motive in the Globalists supporting him? If he takes on Trump and damages Trump, it makes it easier for the Uniparty Swamp machine to beat Trump if Trump has fewer voters at the polls. If Trump were to implode and Desantis became the candidate, Trumps’ base would not turn out for Desantis. This is true of any of the non-Trump candidates.

    How does he feel about Jews and about Israel, now? We know he has a grudge against Bibi who was a friend.

    First, Bibi earned that grudge. Also Trump made it clear at the time his issue with Bibi was with Bibi, not Israel. His statement was ‘F*** Bibi’, not ‘F*** Israel’. His response to Bibi’s betrayal was initially to suggest possible support for Gantz, which frankly chilled me to the bone. He has since stated that he could still work with Bibi, despite their differences, and I was happy to see that Trump did not interject his animosity with Bibi in the recent Israeli election, which he could easily have done.

    As to his views on Jews, did you not see him at the ZOA award presentation? Also, as I noted in the previous comment and the one to reader two days ago, in response to Ye’s repeated antisemitic statements, Trump made the statement to the effect ‘what is going on with Kanye’ and mentioned that he might need to be medicated.

    Will he win the primary?

    I would say, yes, handily, but then again, the primaries will be performed on the machines. So…

    Just my thoughts, of course, such as they are.

  18. @peloni

    I don’t ”believe” things, I look at the facts and try to analyze them objectively.

    So far, I’ve been proven right several times.

    Trump is a promoter (not my opinion but his banker’s), an opportunist, and a businessman (look up “cost/benefit analysis”).

    Trump may not be an “antisemite” but tens of millions of Ye and Fuentes votes are worth a lot more to him than a million of the Jewish votes – sorry, nothing personal – just business!

    Check out The Guardian article that I have just posted here (no, I didn’t form my opinion by reading the article, I was too lazy to log in to read it, it’s just that the article supports my opinion).

    As far as his Jewish daughter is concerned, Goering had a half-brother who was Jewish (no, I am not saying that Trump is a Goering, etc.) and Hermann treated his brother decently the whole time – did this fact make him love the Jewish people or should this fact have given him extra points at Nuremberg?

  19. OK.

    Ivanka announced on or before 11-15-22 that she is won’t participate in her father’s presidential campaign because she wants to devote herself to her family (from The Guardian)

    Donald Trump dined with Ye and Fuentes on Tuesday 11-22-22.

    The Guardian article:

    Donald Trump ‘shied away from criticising Nick Fuentes’
    Advisers wanted ex-president to distance himself from white supremacist with whom he dined but Trump feared alienating supporters – insiders

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/28/donald-trump-shied-away-from-criticising-nick-fuentes

  20. @ Peloni Candace Owens said he only reads newspapers. Forbes Magazine credited Trumps win to Kushner’s savvy with social media. He doesn’t have Kushner by his side now. He can’t bring himself to reject anyone who says he likes him,clearly. He’s a loyal friend but at best, he is coming across as politicaly clueless. Has his time passed? It’s a long time to 2024. Yes, the election of 2020 was stolen from him and yes he has been and continues to be railroaded but is that enough of a reason to continue to support him? How does he feel about Jews and about Israel, now? We know he has a grudge against Bibi who was a friend. Will he win the primary?

    Food for thought.

    “Florida’s DeSantis to GOP Jews: ‘Judea and Samaria is not occupied, but disputed’
    Popular governor who may challenge Trump for presidential nomination highlights his support for Israel and the Jewish community in an address to Republican Jewish Coalition

    By LUKE TRESS and TOI STAFF
    20 November 2022, 6:13 pm 39”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/floridas-desantis-to-gop-jews-judea-and-samaria-is-not-occupied-but-disputed/

    In 2015, my first choicewas

    Mike Huckabee

    Huckabee: Israel’s claim to Judea and Samaria stronger than US tie to Manhattan
    Presidential hopeful on Jerusalem visit says Israel didn’t steal the land and needs settlements for defensible borders; meets Netanyahu, vows to ‘undo’ Iran deal if elected

    By RAPHAEL AHREN
    19 August 2015, 6:16 pm

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/huckabee-israels-claim-to-judea-and-samaria-stronger-than-us-tie-to-manhattan/

    Trump says he wants two-state solution for Middle East conflict
    By Steve Holland, Yara Bayoumy
    4 MIN READ

    UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) – U.S. President Donald Trump said on Wednesday he wanted a two-state solution to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the clearest expression yet of his administration’s support for such an outcome. 9/26/2018

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-israel-idUSKCN1M61WP

  21. @Reader

    the wind is blowing in the direction of an antisemitic and nationalistic crisis due to an economic and possibly political crash.

    So Trump is courting the antisemitic vote in the US? Are you serious? The most pro-Israel president in US history, who has a favorite child who converted to orthodox Judaism, whose closest political advisor, Kushner, is also an orthodox Jew, and who has Jewish grandchildren, and who extended Title VI protections to include protections against antisemitism, is trying to court the antisemitic vote in America by dining with a couple of antisemites two years before an election?

    If you believe this, you will believe anything.

  22. @Raphael

    Is he anti-semitic, or not?

    With all due respect, the idea that Trump is antisemitic is absurd in the extreme.

    Also, he wasn’t courting anyone, but met with Ye to discuss his business troubles.
    He has explained this on his TS account in the following posts which no one is acknowledging:

    Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, was asking me for advice concerning some of his difficulties, in particular having to do with his business. We also discussed, to a lesser extent, politics, where I told him he should definitely not run for President, “any voters you may have should vote for TRUMP.” Anyway, we got along great, he expressed no anti-Semitism, & I appreciated all of the nice things he said about me on “Tucker Carlson.” Why wouldn’t I agree to meet? Also, I didn’t know Nick Fuentes.

    So I help a seriously troubled man, who just happens to be black, Ye (Kanye West), who has been decimated in his business and virtually everything else, and who has always been good to me, by allowing his request for a meeting at Mar-a-Lago, alone, so that I can give him very much needed “advice.” He shows up with 3 people, two of which I didn’t know, the other a political person who I haven’t seen in years. I told him don’t run for office, a total waste of time, can’t win. Fake News went CRAZY!

    The business troubles which Ye was inquiring about was likely the fact the IRS froze Ye’s bank accounts with $75 million due to a $50 million unpaid tax bill. As Trump had been in a similar situation, it is reasonable that Trump would be in a position to advise him how to proceed.

    There is also more context to be gained from this event, where Ye purposefully sandbagged Trump with the company of Fuentes and Milo, as I explained in my comments to Reader in a previous thread a couple of days ago:
    https://www.israpundit.org/david-friedman-urges-trump-to-dump-kanye-and-friend/

    Ye is still traveling around with these same companions sharing more antisemitic drivel as he goes, but in a recent podcast, he notably stated:

    “Trump said things that hurt me. He lied about me

    Which I believe is a reference to the statement which Trump made about Ye needing to possibly be medicated (I discussed this.

    He then went on to state that

    “We sat there [at Mar-a-Lago] and it was like when Trump came in, I said, ‘Do you want to sit alone?’ He was like, ‘No, bring your friends in.’ So a big thing is like, Trump had no idea who Nick Fuentes was.

    So Trump did not know who Fuentes was, but Ye did, and he acknowledges that he had been hurt by Trump’s “[lies] about me”.

    I would suggest that this was a purposeful political hit job intended to sandbag Trump as a antisemite meeting with Fuentes to keep the Charlottesville banter going. This was accomplished in coordination between Trump’s good friend Ye and an FBI confidential source, Milo. And right on cue, within a couple of hours WSJ has their article up, and all the neocons are scrambling to be the first on the “Trump’s an antisemite” bandwagon.

  23. @Raphael

    he will get burned in the end

    Not necessarily.

    He may be taking a gamble on where the wind is blowing (his potential presidential run is still 2 years away), and the wind is blowing in the direction of an antisemitic and nationalistic crisis due to an economic and possibly political crash.

    It seems that antisemitism is being greenlighted here and abroad by the attitudes of this administration, that’s why we are witnessing all these examples of “freedom of speech” coming from the new elite we thought should have been friendly to us.

    Now, sit down and count the number of Jews who have been installed as federal officials by this administration and pretend that you are not Jewish (and read a few articles on JNS.org – very enlightening – I’ve just discovered this website).

  24. @Sebastien Zorn

    Is the timing significant…?

    It is possible, but it is not clear to me what she meant (I didn’t see the tweet).

    If she stated that she is still his loving daughter and she didn’t say anything about him meeting with the antisemites, maybe it means that she doesn’t wish to make a negative judgment of his behavior and this may even be interpreted as some sort of a show of support for her father in order not to harm his prospects or in order not to start a scandal.

    There could be many different reasons for her quitting politics.

  25. I really don’t understand Trump’s actions. Courting these two people, in the public eye, raises far too many questions. Where does Trump stand? Is he anti-semitic, or not? This is a point that the electorate deserves to know about, straight forwardly. If he is anti-semitic, we should have done with him. If he is not, then why on earth is he giving these people credibility by meeting with them, particularly over dinner? Is he perhaps somewhere in between? I think not. There is no “in between” in this matter. If Trump is flirting with this anti-semitic ideology merely for some perceived political gain, he will get burned in the end. Associating with these two people is absolutely the wrong thing for him to do, politically, and morally.

  26. @Reader Is the timing significant given that she is Jewish and he is hob-knobbing with antisemites? She posted this statement on Twitter. It’s not a rumor.

  27. @Sebastien Zorn

    Is it significant…?

    Who knows?

    I saw the cover of one of the tabloids when I was getting groceries, and it claimed that Trump either sold out all of his relatives, or did something sensational like that, I don’t remember, however – tabloids are tabloids…

    BTW, I made a mistake – 50 million is not the number of Black votes, the number of votes is probably more like 35 million (my rough estimate of who is eligible to vote) but it is still a very decent number worth investing into if you want to run for president.

  28. Is it significant that Ivanka has declared that she is stepping back from politics and that her only relation to him now is that of a loving daughter?

  29. @Honeybee

    He is not stepping in it, he is catering to his possible new voter base – 50 million Black votes (and who knows how many sympathizers) vs. maybe 1 million Jewish votes – what has he got to lose?

    Read the articles I just posted in Chit-Chat!