By Ted Belman
At the WJC I struck up a conversation with a Jewish lawyer from Hungary who was a delegate. I expected he shared my views on the Muslim problem in Europe but he didn’t. We talked about the EU v nationalism. He was all for the former. I asked for his views on the Muslims and he said that they are needed for the economy and do not represent a threat. Germany, he said is doing a good job of integrating them. No problemo.
When when I got back I had this email from Crystal K who runs the group list Europeans who Support Israel
New attacks against Thilo Sarrazin, a great German accused of ‘racial incitement’ by a politically correct german gov’t, after his new book speaking up the truth on turkish and arab immigration. Shame on Angela Merkel. Even more shockingly, the misplaced attacks come also from the jewish side, again! as we remind in a previous post, here below.
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From: k_
To: EUROPEANS_WHO SUPPORT ISRAEL“The tragic loss for the entire humanity..”.
Read the words of Thilo Sarrazin – when one needs courage for speaking up the truth!“The large scale disappearance of the Jews could never be compensated,” Sarrazin said. “Thirty percent of physicians and lawyers, eighty percent of all theatre directors in Berlin in 1933 were of Jewish origin. Commerce and banking were also largely Jewish. All this has vanished; it was also a considerable intellectual loss. Sixty to seventy percent of the extermination and expulsion of the Jews in the German speaking countries affected Berlin and Vienna.”
And now (to our shock and dismay) read the unbelievable reaction :
“He (Sarrazin) has also been criticized by the ‘Zentralrat der Juden’ (Central Council of Jews), whose General-Secretary Stephan Kramer (who’s also on the board of directors of WJC)compared his comments about Turkish and Arab immigrants to the “opinions of Göring, Goebbels and Hitler.” The Berlin prosecutor is currently examining whether Mr. Sarrazin can be prosecuted for the crime of “racial incitement.”
Shame! The right words fail me. Stephan Kramer is insane and an ignorant, and should be treated as such. And, sure enough, be removed from any official charge.
Crystal K.
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Germany: Civil Courage vs. Uncomfortable Facts
From the desk of Paul Belien, BRUSSELS JOURNALThilo Sarrazin. Kudos for him!
Thilo Sarrazin, a Bundesbank director who criticized Turkish and Arab immigrants in a recent interview, has been punished by his employer and may lose his job. Apart from receiving threats by Islamist extremists, he may also be taken to court by the German authorities on charges of “incitement to racial hatred.” For many Germans, however, the 64-year old Mr. Sarrazin, who until last May was Finance Minister in the regional government of the state of Berlin for the Social-Democrat SPD, is a hero.
Last week Axel Weber, the president of the Bundesbank, Germany’s equivalent of the FED, needed body guards on an official visit to Istanbul. Normally, the head of the German central bank never travels with body guards, but life at the Bundesbank has changed since two weeks ago. Lettre International, a German cultural magazine based in Berlin, published an interview with Thilo Sarrazin, in which the Bundesbank director criticized the unwillingness of Turkish and Arab immigrants to assimilate into German society. The interview provoked the anger of these very immigrants. Immigrant groups accuse Mr. Sarrazin of espousing the “racist views of the far right.”
In contemporary Europe, leading a life surrounded by body guards has become normal for people such as Geert Wilders, a Dutch politician who criticizes the Islamization of his native land, and Kurt Westergaard, a Danish cartoonist who made a drawing depicting the Muslim Prophet Muhammad with a bomb in his turban. Thilo Sarrazin has now joined their ranks. His boss Mr. Weber, however, does not want to become the target of angry Muslims. He has apologized to everyone who might feel offended by the “discriminatory comments” of the Bundesbank official. Indeed, the Bundesbank issued a statement distancing itself in the strongest terms from the interview. It also demoted Sarrazin; he may even be fired altogether.
In the Lettre International interview, Thilo Sarrazin talked about the economic and cultural situation in his hometown of Berlin. He argued that Berlin has been unable to recover the cultural and economic status and prestige it had before the Second World War. Even its contemporary population figure of 3.2 million is lower than the pre-war 4 million. Sarrazin says that Berlin’s dynamics was broken when the city lost its Jews. The Jewish elite was driven out and instead the city acquired a Turkish and Arab underclass.
“The large scale disappearance of the Jews could never be compensated,” Sarrazin said. “Thirty percent of physicians and lawyers, eighty percent of all theatre directors in Berlin in 1933 were of Jewish origin. Commerce and banking were also largely Jewish. All this has vanished; it was also a considerable intellectual loss. Sixty to seventy percent of the extermination and expulsion of the Jews in the German speaking countries affected Berlin and Vienna.”
Sarrazin argued that during the Cold War, ambitious and dynamic people moved away from the highly-subsidized West Berlin while left-wing activists and drop-outs took their place. Meanwhile a Turkish and Arab underclass was imported, which also lives mostly off government subsidies without making economic contributions to the city.
“Berlin has a bigger problem than elsewhere of an underclass that does not take part in the normal economic cycle. Many Arabs and Turks in this city, whose numbers have grown as a result of wrong policies, have no productive function except selling fruit and vegetables,” Sarrazin said. The plight of his home town makes him very bitter. He lashed out at what he called policies that were “too plebeian” instead of elitist. “Anyone who can do something and strives for something with us is welcome. The rest should go elsewhere,” Sarrazin told ‘Lettre International’.
The Turks, however, “are conquering Germany in the same way that the Kosovars conquered Kosovo: through their high birthrate. […] I do not need to acknowledge anyone who lives off the state, rejects this country, does not take proper care of the education of his children and keeps producing little girls in headscarves.”
Since the publication of the interview, Sarrazin has received threats from Islamists. The Social-Democratic SPD Party has started a procedure to oust him from its ranks. He has also been criticized by the Zentralrat der Juden (Central Council of Jews), whose General-Secretary Stephan Kramer compared his comments about Turkish and Arab immigrants to the “opinions of Göring, Goebbels and Hitler.” The Berlin prosecutor is currently examining whether Mr. Sarrazin can be prosecuted for the crime of “racial incitement.”
An opinion poll indicated, however, that 51 percent of the Germans agree with what Mr. Sarrazin said. Conservative newspapers, such as Die Welt, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, and the mass circulation Bild have come to his defense, arguing that he has merely stated uncomfortable facts. Prominent Germans, such as former Chancellor Helmut Schmidt and the writers Henryk Broder and Ralph Giordano, have also spoken out in support of the Bundesbank official.(emphasis added)
Helmut Schmidt, the nonagenarian former leader of the Social-Democrat SPD, said that the presence of seven million immigrants in Germany are proof “of a wrong development for which the political class [of the past 15 years] is responsible.” It would have been better, Mr. Schmidt told the weekly magazine Focus, that those who refuse to integrate into German society “had been left outside.” He added that “The further inflow of people from Eastern Anatolia or Black Africa will not solve the problem [of Germany’s ageing population], but will only create an enormous new problem.”
Ralph Giordano said that Sarrazin’s analysis was “right on the mark.” Henryk Broder stated that he “does not even go far enough.” Since both Messrs. Giordano and Broder are Jewish, their support for Mr. Sarrazin has earned them severe criticism from the Central Council of Jews, whose Mr. Kramer derisively called both men “Jewish intellectuals.”
On October 14th, Jasper von Altenbockum, an editorialist of the influential Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, wrote in his paper that Mr. Sarrazin’s frank remarks were proof of his great “civil courage.” “Civil courage is more than just courage. It is also a service to the state, whose legal constitutions and social achievements are worth defending.” Mr. Altenbockum criticized those who accuse Sarrazin of acting irresponsibly and foolishly. “In a civil society it is not considered foolish to risk one’s own existence when one defends the civil society and its freedoms and security. What is foolish, is for the civil society to punish those who act thus.”
Hitler’s revenge
Three cheers for Mr. Sarrasin and civil courage! The difficulties he is facing seem to go back to Hitler, who usurped German virtues, including the very concept of Germanness, and polluted them with his filth. Hitler’s legacy is that Germans can scarcely defend themselves against any external or internal threats. Their “defense,” led by Hitler, against the non-threat of their own Jewish compatriots, discredited all future defenses against all ethnic threats. And not only for the Germans, but for all Europeans. Thus the left and their Islamic masters have Hitler for their strongest ally.
All the greater the courage shown by Mr. Sarrasin. Is there another public figure in America or Europe who has even come close to speaking honestly about ethnic merits and demerits? No. Because of Hitler it is impossible. Though I am impressed that Mr. Sarrasin has found some public support. Here in the U.S.A., if a public figure acknowledged the true statistics on black-on-white crime, or the true numbers of Mexican illegals in our prisons, he would be all alone. He would recant, and retire from public life. So powerful is the reign of PC delusion and/or hypocrisy in free America.
It is difficult, even for ethnic Turks in Germany, to find fault with Mr Sarrazin’s views. He is only articulating what the vast majority of Germans hold to be true, a truth that is vindicated by statistical data. Mr Sarrazin’s insights into Berlin are equally valid, as the city was once home to large minorities of Huguenots and Jews, both prosperous groups. The Turkish vendors selling doener kebab to drunk Berliners at 03:00 don’t cut it.
Unfortunately for the SPD and CDU/CSU elites whose attitudes to the increasing non-White and Islamic presence in Germany range from ambivalence to outright encouragement, Mr Sarrazin’s comments have hit a nerve with the German people, regardless of their left-right affiliation.
Moreover, the minorities and their compatriots and co-religionists have been thus far unable to mount a ferocious campaign against Mr Sarrazin, as was expected. Perhaps the truth is irresistible?*
*Der Speigel interviewed a number of “Turkish Germans” who agreed with Mr Sarrazin’s statements.
Subject: The ‘Theo Sarrazin debate’ on Germany Becoming Islamophobic
A commentary by Erich Follath
Is Germany becoming more Islamophobic?
Part 2: Parallels with 19th-Century Anti-Semitism
“In no other religion is the transition to violence and terrorism so fluid,” Sarrazin writes. Former FAZ correspondent and bestselling author Udo Ulfkotte, another prophet of doom, expresses similar concerns when he warns: “A tsunami of Islamization is sweeping across our continent.” Dutch writer and columnist Leon de Winter, who is much celebrated in Germany and a frequent contributor to SPIEGEL, claims to have recognized “the face of the enemy” in the outlandish religion and is generally disparaging of Muslims, writing: “Since the 1960s, we have been deceiving ourselves that all cultures are equal.” The journalist and writer Ralph Giordano, a moral authority in Germany, is sharply critical of new mosque construction and sweepingly characterizes Islam as a totalitarian religion.And aren’t those who tolerate totalitarianism nothing but appeasers? And haven’t we seen this once before?
Potential for Violence
There is no question that there are Muslims in Germany who sympathize with Islamist ideas (which doesn’t necessarily mean that they are prepared to use violence). A report by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, Germany’s domestic intelligence agency, includes 36,270 Muslims in this group, a number that has increased slightly in recent years — by about 9 percent since 2007. It is also undeniable that suicide bombers worldwide frequently invoke Islam — a deplorable but not an isolated phenomenon. Every monotheistic religion, through its claim to exclusivity, contains the potential for violence.But no one condemns Christianity as a whole when Northern Irish breakaway factions commit murder in the name of God. We don’t blame all Catholics when some of them kill abortion doctors while invoking their faith. And we don’t take all of Judaism to task when a Jewish terrorist named Baruch Goldstein slaughters dozens of Muslims during prayers in Hebron while invoking Yahweh.
But we do condemn Islam, whose holy book contains about as many passages glorifying violence as the Old Testament (which, unlike the Koran, does mention stoning as a punishment).
Of course, the widespread mistrust of Muslims, which has only grown in recent years, has a lot to do with the 9/11 terrorist attacks in New York and Washington. It is everything but a purely German phenomenon.
‘Growing Hostility’ in US
In the United States, traditionally a country of immigrants, where Muslims are much better integrated into society than in Germany, the planned construction of an Islamic cultural center and mosque room near Ground Zero in New York has triggered a heated controversy. Comments by hate-mongers from Fox News and leading Republicans prompted Time magazine to conclude, in a cover story in its latest issue titled “Is America Islamophobic?” that there are signs of “growing hostility” toward Muslims. The new government in the Netherlands will be forced to tolerate the right-wing populist politician Geert Wilders, who has even proposed banning the Koran.In Italy, Denmark and Austria, populist right-wing parties are scoring political points with their crude anti-Islamic slogans. In Switzerland, a country with a very small Muslim population, they even managed to win a referendum to ban minarets. And in France the banlieues, low-income areas on the outskirts of major cities, are in flames because the French government can offer no solution to the lack of prospects for most Muslim youth.
In Germany, which has had at least some success in integrating foreigners, the mood against Muslims is now just as hysterical. A man like Sarrazin is applauded for behaving like a toned-down version of Wilders. But why?
Popular Scapegoat
The widespread support for Sarrazin also shows that there is potential in Germany for a party to the right of the pro-business Free Democratic Party and the conservative Christian Democrats. If Sarrazin were to establish such a party after possibly leaving the SPD, he could be expected to capture at least 10 percent of the vote. Passive, unimaginative politicians, major parties with no real integration policies and, most of all, the quarreling Islamic associations, have contributed to the possibility that the seed of Islamophobia in Germany could germinate and begin to grow when fertilized by people like Sarrazin.
The concept of Muslims as the enemy is becoming more targeted, with Islam being held accountable for many social problems, like unemployment, the supposed inundation of foreigners and deficits in education. A religion has become a scapegoat — and a focal point for intolerance and hate.
Popular Internet sites like the German blog Politically Incorrect don’t even begin to take the trouble to draw the necessary distinctions. Some of the postings on the site are indicative of this tendency to paint with a very broad brush, postings like: “Islam is a voluntary mental illness,” “It is pointless to grapple with this inferior culture,” and “There is only one word to describe Islam: barbaric.” The anonymity of the Internet enables a boundless, blind hatred to cross the last thresholds of inhibition. Worshippers of the Prophet Mohammed are variously described as “goat fuckers” or “veiled sluts.” “Dirty Muslim!” and “God-damned camel driver” are among the most popular derogatory expressions among young people today.
The Prophet Mohammed has more than an image problem. According to an Emnid poll, a majority now finds him almost as distasteful as Pontius Pilate, the Roman prefect who authorized Jesus’s crucifixion. Some 52 percent of Germans would be opposed to one of their children marrying a Muslim or would only accept it with very strong reservations, while 46 percent would be against one of their children marrying a Buddhist and 30 percent a Jew.‘Unbelievable Hatred’
Professor Wolfgang Benz, the long-standing director of the Center for Research on Anti-Semitism at the Technical University of Berlin and the co-founder of the Dachau Review with which he established research into concentration camps, now sees parallels between anti-Semitic agitators and extreme “Islam critics.” “Populists in the West are responding to the image of the West as the enemy, propagated by demagogues within the Islamic world, with their own image of Islam as the enemy.” They use similar tools, exploiting distorted images and hysteria. “The act of equating German citizens who are Muslims with fanatical terrorists is deliberate and is framed as an appeal to popular sentiment.”
Benz sees the phobia against other cultures or minorities as a defense mechanism. An image of the enemy is constructed by means of generalization and the reduction of factual information to hearsay. A classic example is the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” an anti-Semitic pamphlet written in the late 19th century, which supposedly furnished evidence of a Jewish global conspiracy. Although every detail of the text was debunked as incorrect, Russian czars and, most of all, the Nazis used it to incite the people against Jews. The text is still available today in Islamic countries that agitate against Israel. “Anyone who is — rightfully — indignant over the narrow-mindedness of anti-Semites must also take a critical view of the portrayal of Islam as the enemy,” Benz wrote in January.
Benz has now come under sharp attack for this reasoning. He is the target of verbal abuse and even threats. “I am confronted with an unbelievable hatred,” says Benz, even though he has absolutely no intention of trivializing anti-Semitism. But in today’s Germany, it appears that few people are interested in taking a differentiated view.
Never Seen Again
Germany is changing. And although it is not yet a consistently Islamophobic society, a Sarrazin republic, it is certainly on its way to becoming one.
The Pied Piper of Hamelin was never seen again after his disappearance. It would, with all due respect, be an appealing thought to not hear anything from Thilo Sarrazin for a long time. However, the Pied Piper did not return the children he had abducted. Only two escaped, one blind and the other deaf. Neither of them was able to help the other children — and so all were lost.
Subject: The ‘Theo Sarrazin debate’ on Germany Becoming Islamophobic
“The Turks are taking over Germany exactly as the Kosovars took over Kosovo:
Time magazine? ha! ha! Newsweek recently sold for [drum roll] ONE WHOLE DOLLAR!!!!!!!
Rumor has it Time could be next. Maybe they will get two bucks.
Harmen is Democratic Congress woman, Jane Harmen’s husband. He paid one dollar for the mag realizing—I suppose—at that price he can pump-out propaganda until creditors close it down.
Riding a dying horse in the desert beats walking—the left will use Newsweek until it utterly fails. But using TIME to refute FOX is like racing a dead horse.
Absurd comparison. Europeans today have every reason to be suspicious and see muslims as the enemy because THEY ARE BEHAVING LIKE AN ENEMY. The Jews of Europe were targeted despite the fact that they were a non-threatening, law-abiding people who were actually making great contributions in science, medicine and the arts to their countries, whereas the muslim population of Europe today is largely a burden as well as being a physical and cultural threat to the existence of Europe as we know it.
Which of course proves he is right about muslims. Throughout Europe and increasingly here in America, there is a witchhunt against anyone resisting islamization.
Of course the above examples are few and far between as opposed to the more than 15,000 islamic terrorist attacks committed globally just since 9/11. There are legitimate reasons to blame islam as a whole based on its widespread violence which no other religion comes remotely close to.
To be offended and oppose an in-your-face islamic supremacist victory mosque at the place where muslims in the name of islam murdered thousands of Americans is “hatemongering”? Is it not hatemongering on the part of the muslims who want to build this ground zero mosque on the gravesite of dead Americans murdered in the name of islam?
A- No Jew should still be living in Europe.
B-Those that still are screw em.
C-There are no good Jewish reasons why any Jew should give a damn what happens to Europe. In the spirit of Rav Ovadia they should all perish from a plague. Even from Islam: Divine justice one could call it.
D- I think we Jews have enough on our own plates to concern ourselves with the worst antisemitic scum who ever lived.