By Daniel Greenfield, FPM
There are some who speculate that the location of the biblical city of Sodom was in Saudi Arabia. They may have a case. Saudi Arabia is what happens when you combine absolute evil with ungodly amounts of money.
Its not just that monsters like Fayhan al-Ghamdi exist in Saudi Arabia. They exist everywhere. But in the heartland of Islam, where Mohammed first began his wave of crimes against women and little girls, they operate with the sanction of the state.
Sheikh Fayhan al-Ghamdi, an Islamic television preacher in Saudi Arabia, beat Lama, his 5-year-old daughter to death during a custodial visit. Saudi police had found the 5-year-old wandering the streets, she was taken to the hospital and placed in intensive care.
The side of her head had been mashed in, her back was broken, she had a skull fracture, bleeding in the head, a broken left hand, bruises all over her body, and burns that apparently came from an iron. One of her fingernails had been pulled out. There were signs that she had been sexually assaulted in various ways that are too horrific to describe, but that are in serial killer territory.
Lama died in the hospital and a trial began.
“The person who committed this heinous crime is the girl’s father, who tells people how to live their lives and encourages them to cultivate the fear of Allah, who used whips and irons on the body of a 5-year-old girl,” her mother said.
Sheikh Fayhan al-Ghamdi told the judge that his daughter had been “behaving strangely” and questioned her virginity. He took her to a medical professional to have her virginity checked.
Sheikh al-Ghamdi had a job with the Saudi Ministry of Education where he was supposed to be working with troubled youth. The court found that under Islamic Hadith from several sources that states that a father cannot be executed for killing a child, that he should not be treated as a murderer.
It was narrated that the Prophet (Mohammed) said, “No father should be killed (executed) for killing his son.” (At-Tirmidhi)
Or alternatively.
Do not kill him that killed his son, but kill the mother to kill her and her son. (Ibn Qudamah)
Apparently that also applies to jail time for torturing your 5-year-old daughter to death. Instead the court sentenced Sheikh Fayhan al-Ghamdi to 4 months in prison and to pay $50,000 in blood money to the mother of his child.
This is what the Islamic justice system and its values are like. This is the Sharia law that the left insists on importing to America and to Europe.
@ dionissis mitropoulos:
Ed-dumacated Texas speak for educated Geo Bush was the world’s formost proponent of Texas speak. If you can’t dazzle them with you brillance. baffle the with you bull-s**t!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Honey Bee Said:
Honey Bee, i will thank Cowboy for his concern only if you tell me what “eddumatcated” means.
Is it something like being educated but also looking like a mat? What?
Muslim depravity
Unlike with the spread of Christianity among pagans pre-Islamic cultures were little effected by the transition to Islam.
All Middle Eastern cultures changed not much to the better coming under Islam. CuriousAmerican Said:
More abortions prevent this
Money going to Missionary activities could feed millions of starving children, prevent death and disease and elevate the quality of life for tens of millions. Yet you are only or mainly concerned with just abortions and converts especially if they are Jews.
Stick your anti abortion BS where the sun don’t shine you stupid hypocrite.
@ dionissis mitropoulos:
As c’boy would say, glad your now eddumatcated
@ CuriousAmerican:
You know american….. I think maybe dweller is right.
Maybe it is not that you are that much of a f****g antisemite, and maybe we were wrong all along.
I think you are just plain STUPID.
I wish I could help you, but I don’t think that could be cured.
Unfortunately, in this case, you EITHER get it….
Or you don’t.
You, american, just don’t get it!
A long time ago, it was pointed out to me not to call an idiot an idiot.
This, as it was explained to me, is because an idiot, just does not like to be called an idiot ESPECIALLY when he IS an idiot…
So I am not going to call you an idiot american…
Ain’t I nice?
🙂
@ CuriousAmerican:
CuriousAmerican Said:
Translation: those in this forum who dismiss the deaths are Jews, the Jews are closer to Hitler than me. The Jews are Nazis
CuriousAmerican Said:
Translation: How dare you accuse me, you Jews.
CuriousAmerican Said:
Translation:Nuh, you wouldn’t care even if i told you, you are Jews.
CuriousAmerican Said:
Translation:You Jews, apart from malicious, you are supremacists.
CuriousAmerican Said:
Translation: After all, you are Jews. What more could we expect from you?
CuriousAmerican Said:
Translation: i thought of becoming a little more upfront in my anti-Semitism
CuriousAmerican Said:
Translation: You Jews are very tribal people.
CuriousAmerican Said:
Translation: of course i am more moral than you, Jews.
CuriousAmerican Said:
Translation: I know, i know, it’s the third time i use this precise sentence, but i was feeling lazy to Google for an alternative format.
Look all of you … of course, I deplore what happened to that girl. The father was a pig.
But if you think abortion, with 30 million dead, with dilation and cutterage, or salt poisoning, is somehow a minor issue – the sawing in parts of a baby in utero, and pulling it out limb by limb – is somehow a minor moral issue – then you all have a problem not me.
Of course I deplore Islamic morality; but we in the West have our own issues.
This does not excuse Islamic morality … but we in the West have our own issues.
I would think those who can easily dismiss the death of 30 million aborted babies as inconsequential are closer to Hitler than what I am accused of.
The only difference is: the aborted babies are rarely photographed; and so do not catch our sympathy as regularly.
How dare you accuse me of not appreciating the horror of what happened to that girl?! I do.
Would it make a difference if I told you over a million of those aborted babies were Jewish?
It shouldn’t. A baby is a baby, of equal value; Jewish or Gentile. The death of any one of them is equally tragic, irrespective of ethnicity.
But maybe that does not concern you … who knows?!
Maybe 30 Million dead babies is a minor issue to you. Maybe over 1 million dead Jewish babies is a minor issue to you (I really should not have to bring that up, but some here are so ethnocentric).
But if it is a minor issue to you, that is not my problem.
WE IN THE WEST HAVE OUR OWN ISSUES!
@ the phoenix:
Yes! makes sense.
@ dionissis mitropoulos:
I think that this is a variation to Mae west’s
@ Honey Bee:
I can understand the sarcasm (“you mean both you and your mouse?”) but not the sexual innuendo.
@ dionissis mitropoulos:
When a speaker uses the pural “we” C’boy says” we?, have you got a mouse in your pocket?”. The comment is both sarcastic and sexual.
@ CuriousAmerican:
Look in the darling little girls eyes ,as she lies in the hospital bed, have you no compasion for her suffering. Also I do not support abortion.
@ CuriousAmerican:
Listen up, american!
Hitler (you know, Adolph..?) loved dogs.
What is wrong with this sentence, American?
“It was nice to see so many lovers of animals talk about their favorite pets…Cesar Milan in addressing the crowd advised that all animal lovers are indeed great people no matter what.”
Knowing what you (hopefully) know about hitler, can you see how absurd, and blatantly hypocritical your comment is?
And once more for the record, I stand by a comment I made to you where I had a very strong recommendation as to what you should do with yourself.
American!
reply to curious american in moderation
@ CuriousAmerican:
CuriousAmerican Said:
If you think that the 30 million children, who would have been raised by mothers that didn’t want them, would have serious chance to live a normal life, then it must be you with the problem – moral shortsightedness due to dogmatism.
CuriousAmerican Said:
There was nothing in your initial comment, as there is nothing in this one, which ranks morally the two immoral behaviors.
And here is the problem: if you present two bad things and say they both are bad, the meaning grasped by anyone listening is that you consider them morally equivalent.
Having our own issues in the West does not mean that western morality can be compared with Islamic morality in the same sentence. The difference is too big to allow lumping the moralities together.
CuriousAmerican Said:
If you count yourself among those that must not be deceived so that a situation of honesty obtains, then i suggest you are dishonest because you are deluding yourself.
There is a very big difference between the two worlds for you to mention them together, unless you mention them together so that you can highlight this difference. Any other motive counts as attributing equivalence.
If you think the abortion of 30 million babies in the last few decades is a minor issue, then you have a problem, not me.
The Muslim was a pig; but we in the West have our own issues.
This is not equivalency, it is honesty.
@ dionissis mitropoulos:
Looks like I got stuck on this phrase. Not being so sophisticated, I am just wondering how much time is needed for these things?
In other words, dionissis, when do we go to work?
@ CuriousAmerican:
american, i thought i might try to speak your language. itmight be a little rusty initially but TRUST ME it will get better with time.
let’s see, how about this:
you are a shameless hypocrite who uses every oportunity to attack anything and everything jewish(verbally, of course)but otoh, there is an element of comfort in that for we know that just like the sun will rise from the east so shall the american spew his shhhstuf….
i am curious to know if you gheet’it, american.
@ dionissis mitropoulos:
@ Bernard Ross:
woho!
with all the board lighting up with comments on different threads, i missed the reappearance of you know who…only realized when i saw your replies…
i should have known, because i have sprayed the full content of a can of fabreze around the house since miraculously sometime around 12;40 am israel time, my olfactory nerves felt under attack…
now i know why.
@ Curious American
CuriousAmerican Said:
You are so determined to find a moral thesis to defend that will be at odds with the sentiment of the
Jewspeople in this forum, that it did not even cross your mind to address the second point of Lady Honey Bee, namely that she finds you disgusting.@ Curious American
CuriousAmerican Said:
He did not tell you that you are defending the Muslim, he said that you are defending the indefensible.
He obviously meant that you are defending a moral equivalence (between the Muslim’s behavior and the West’s behavior) that is not an equivalence at all.
CuriousAmerican Said:
Why do you link this statement with the sheikhs actions, are you infering that it is equal in evil?
C.R. Said:
from merriam-webster online dictionary:
Honey Bee Said:
I couldn’t understand what the quote means, but even if i had a chance of grasping it by trial and error comparison of various interpretations of the quote, i wouldn’t know which comment of mine it refers to.
State the number of my comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ dionissis mitropoulos:
C’boy always says,”is there a mouse in your pocket”.
@ phoenix
the phoenix Said:
Hey, he didn’t say anything bad for Israel this time, i applaud his restraint.
And my teacher, if you must know, is actually a professor😉
@ Honey Bee
Honey Bee Said:
Some Greek politicians use it all the time. It’s the definition of pomposity, isn’t it?
@ Honey Bee:
Honey Bee Said:
We have clearly understood your feelings for him. A couple of hours ago you ordered me and phoenix to turn him into a eunuch, so it comes as no surprise that you find him disgusting.
Response to onelastTime in moderation.
My statement was obvious. We in the West do abort babies.
Who is defending him? Don’t lie about me.
I am just saying that we in the West abort millions of babies a year. If you think this is a minor issue, then you have a problem, NOT ME!
@ CuriousAmerican:
We, are you using the the royal plural? You Sir discuse me.
dionissis mitropoulos Said:
well dionissis, i don’t want to get you into trouble with your teacher, but (and now i am quoting)
“Why the hurry……? — these things always require time.”
🙂
@ CuriousAmerican:
CuriousAmerican Said:
When it’s still in the womb it’s called “fetus”, not “baby”.
And the despicable Muslim might as well kill your daughter, given his character. You don’t run that risk with the girls that want to have an abortion.
But you are so eager to make moral judgements that you don’t see what’s in front of your nose.
At least, you didn’t slander Israel this time.
@ the phoenix:
the phoenix Said:
He seems to want to cast sin on everyone.
So he is going to look for moral equivalences even where there aren’t any.
@ Eric R.:
Yes–true!
@ Bernard Ross:
Yes Mr. Ross–this behavior is common for Muslims–but certainly not normal!
I expect nothing less from an Arab Muslim Dog!
This girl is in heaven with the one true God–she is fine now and forever.
There is no such thing as an ungodly amount of money–if having lots of money is ungodly–then God himself would be ungodly–DUH! Its not the money or the amount of money which is evil–but the love of money.
Bernard Ross Said:
dear mr ross,
you have hit the nail on the head!
out of respect for you i will not make a long dissertation why this jew hater is on top of everything pathologically ‘dafuk barosh’…
he seems to enjoy defending the undefendible
If the devil had a son…
Wait, the devil has a lot of sons – and they’re all muslim.
This cleric knows his fellow Saudis well – He knows they get unspeakable feelings even for babies – This cleric’s solution? Make baby girls wear a burka. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2273308/Sheikh-Abdullah-Daoud-Saudi-cleric-sparks-outrage-calling-baby-girls-wear-burka.html#axzz2JtenEnjU
A baby burka would still fail to protect babies from their fathers and other male relatives.
CuriousAmerican Said:
this statement exhibits a level of emotional detachment and intellectual equality. Imagine raping and then murdering your own daughter of 5 years of age. Try to imagine. Intellectually and verbally you can make an equality, however……???????????????????????
@ CuriousAmerican:
THERE IS NO COMPARISON – I had the very same thought as I was writing, the millions killed by abortion. Yes, mankind is depraved. However, there is a HUGE difference between Islamic societies and the West. In the West you have the choice between living a depraved life or not. Under Islam you are forcibly indoctrinated into a culture of abuse and other twisted notions, either as perpetrator or as victim.
An anecdotal story about the aggressive whitewashing of Islam: A new mosque just opened in a Canadian city. They had an open house to tell their neighbors that they are typical folks, like everyone else, and that Islam is just another good and peaceful religion. One of the newspapers published a picture of two attending non-Muslim little girls of about 10 reading a pamphlet about all the good things about Islam. One of the little girls was wearing a T-shirt with a picture of her idol, Taylor Swift.
What these uninformed and multi-cultural little girls were never told is that if they had true Muslim parents the very mention of Taylor Swift would guarantee them severe pusnishment – and that her music would be completely forbidden. Who would their idol have to be? Probably a female suicide bomber.
The guy is despicable; however we in the West abort babies in the womb.
Mankind is depraved.
ISLAM IS A CULT – only their huge numbers of adherents and a foundation with tinges stolen from the Hebrews and Christianity has given them in the eyes of the public legitimacy as “one of the three great and respectable world religions”. ~~~~~ It is a cult in any way you look at it, and a highly depraved, destructive and dangerous one at that. ~~~~~ Right now Islam is on an aggressive and successful media blitz to whitewash its bad image. They base their makeover on the premise that everything bad about Islam is due to a misreading of the koran. While there are a lot of nice people who are born into Muslim families (and who are never allowed any choice of religion), that’s no reason to go easy on Islam. ~~~~~ Any campaign to expose Islam has to focus on the koran. The best possible poster campaign would not have name calling but actual quotes in English from the original koran (not from edited translations), and clear statistics and references regarding what true Islamic institutions stand for TODAY. ~~~~~ There is no good Islam. Islam cannot be reformed into Islam-lite. Its nucleus and ideological base, the koran, is a weapon against life, freedom and civilization. Activists need to use this very weapon, the koran, against Muslims themselves, and expose Islam’s historical and ideological truth. Instead of focusing on the “misunderstanders of Islam”, Western freedom activists should expose and denounce the root of it all: the koran itself.
these are the barabarians to whom the europeans expect the Jews to capitulate. the sheikh probably did the perverted sexual act himself and then murdered her to cover his evil. this act and behavior is the natural outcome of a a “religious” mind cult called islam. This act is normal for muslims.
@ Eric R.:
As I mentioned a number of times, the UN is a worthless body govern by gangster world leaders and the sooner the true free nations, the US and her allies pull out and tell them to take the headquarters to Siberia where they can enjoy the night life.
@ NormanF:
This should give every one an idea what Israel puts up with and notice how world opinion and the anti-Semite government leaders turn a deaf ear and look away without addressing the real issues that plague this world. No, they along with the liberal left anti-Semite media prefer to call out Israel as the villain.
And the US provides an arsenal to the MB, unreal.
The Muslim World is barbarian.
We should never forget that the Arab savage has never been subdued by the accouterments of Western technology and the conveniences of the lifestyle.
The veneer of civility is only skin-deep in that part of the world and in many respects, particularly from a moral and cultural point of view, Muslims still live mired in the Dark Ages.
Subhuman scum liike this savage control the UN. All the more reason for Israel to tell the UN to go f*** itself