By Richard Baehr, AMERICAN THINKER
A review of Demonizing Israel and the Jews by Manfred Gerstenfeld, RVP Press, New York, 2013
In the six years 1939-1945, two thirds of Europe’s 9 million Jews were executed by gunfire, starved to death, or incinerated in gas chambers during the Holocaust. While Nazi Germany was, of course the principal actor in this mass human slaughter, the Germans found many willing collaborators among the legions of Jew haters in countries they conquered, occupied, and recruited from for the slave labor and death camps. For a few decades after the end of the war, in part due to guilt for their complicity or stance as bystanders to the carnage, many Western European nations were supportive of the new state of Israel, and made the public expression of anti-Semitism verboten. Eastern European nations, in the orbit of the Soviet bloc, adopted the USSR’s position on Israel, which turned sharply negative soon after Israeli independence.
As Manfred Gerstenfeld, a scholar of Jewish communities in Europe and anti-Semitism vividly portrays in this collection of 57 interviews with academics, politicians, and writers in Europe and a few other places as well, the brief time-out on thousands of years of anti-Semitism among Europeans has ended. The end of any tilt towards Israel occurred even earlier, dating to the end of the 1967 war, when Israel was transformed in the eyes of the leftist elites from besieged victim to colonial occupier. Some Europeans pay lip service to hating Israel, but also oppose anti-Semitism. But when you treat the one majority-Jewish state in the world differently than you treat all others and use the most vicious language at your disposal to condemn Israel, then you are singling it out not for its behavior, but for the makeup of its population.
Gerstenfeld’s interviews include citizens of France, Germany, Italy, Great Britain, the Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, the Czech Republic, Argentina, Egypt, and Libya. Interviews were also conducted with analysts from Israel and America describing how anti-Semitism is flourishing in these places as a result of activities of various Christian churches, radical Islamists, left wing political parties (e.g. the Communists, the Greens, hard left socialist parties), some nativist right wing parties, the media (the BBC worst of all in due to its influence), NGOs, and international organizations, in particular the United Nations and its councils and committees. All of these forces aligned against Israel, and in an increasingly visible way against Jews themselves , are aided and abetted by Israel-hating Jews and Israelis, who bask in the attention, financial support and worship by non-Jews whose hatred of Israel and Jews is legitimized by the self-loathing Jews.
One message that is repeated by writers from several European countries is that there is no future any more for Jews in their country, whether it be France, which has the largest Jewish community in Europe, and the third largest in the world (nearly half a million), or the much smaller communities in the Netherlands, Turkey, and Switzerland.
Gerstenfeld’s interviews reveal that in countries where Jews have had little presence historically and are hardly even visible anymore, the hatred of Israel and Jews is often extreme. Norway is a particularly troubling example.
As a result of the Germans’ success in their Jew-killing effort, today over 80% of the world’s Jews live in just two countries: Israel, where the Jewish community is growing rapidly, mainly due to natural growth, and the United States, where for 50 years Jewish numbers have been stable to slightly declining due to low birth rates and intermarriage. Jewish numbers in Europe, the former population center of the Jewish world, have declined another 50% since the end of World War 2. Jews are not even 1 of every 500 people on the planet today, while 75 years ago, they were 1% of the world’s population, 5 times the current share.
In Europe, Jews are far outnumbered by Muslims and Arabs in every country. These countries have welcomed the newcomers, a policy consistent with their liberal social policies and worship at the altar of multiculturalism, tolerance for the other, and diversity. But the Europeans have largely failed to integrate their new members, so that they not only learn the language of their new country but adopt its values. The Moroccans in the Netherlands, and the Arabs in Malmo, Sweden can beat up and terrorize the few Jews in their midst, but the authorities in these communities seem more concerned with appeasing their angry hate-filled immigrant communities, than policing them or educating them in the values that led to their admission to the countries they now call home. France has had a steady stream of emigrants to Israel (a greater number annually than make aliyah from the United States, with a Jewish community more than ten times as large), after several murderous attacks, the worst an attack on a Jewish school in Toulouse in 2012.
For leftists in Europe and their Muslim and Arab communities, there is sharp divergence on pretty much all public policy except one: that Israel is a horrible villain, the world’s worst and most dangerous country, and is behaving today like the Nazis. It is a country that deserves to die. The Nazi analogy is not accidental, since it provides an opportunity for Europeans to argue that they have really learned the lessons of the Holocaust, and will oppose behavior today by those who resemble the Nazis with their tactics and policies. It takes very little for the modern Europeans to cleanse their consciences for their nations’ collaboration with or passivity during the mass murder in their midst last century.
To read Gerstenfeld’s interviews is to come away thankful that I am a Jew living in the United States. To be sure, some of the same trends that have overtaken Europe are at work in the United States, where Israel is now viewed as a bad actor in academia, much of the media, and on the left in general, and where the current President is the least sympathetic to Israel of any President since Jimmy Carter, to whom he deserves comparison in many areas.
While threats exist, Jewish institutions in America are not armed camps guarded by visible security people; Jews do not have to hide their identity walking the street; the fastest growing Christian community in America, the Evangelicals, are very supportive of Israel, and most national and state political figures are still quite sympathetic to the Jewish state. But over time, these numbers will change here with rapid Muslim and Arab population growth due to immigration policy, and Jewish stasis in numbers.
The intellectual and media elites in America are becoming more influential, though not quite to the level in Europe, and hostility to Israel is one of their core beliefs. Given the large majority support for Israel versus the Palestinian among Americans, the elites see themselves as leading the change that will make this nation’s policies more like those of Europe, our social better.
Gerstenfeld’s book is a signal of how ugly it has gotten across the pond for Jews and Israel supporters. There may be no Jewish future in Europe, but in America, knowledge of how the world’s oldest hate has come roaring back in Europe is a lesson on how it must be resisted in the one country that has truly been exceptional in this regard.
The most meaningful test today is support for Israel, not fighting alleged Klan members in Northern Idaho and fake hate crime perpetrators at Oberlin College. Hatred of Israel has become the principal weapon for Jew haters abroad. Friends of Israel have their work cut out for themselves there, and here as well.
@ yamit82:
You made BOTH of the above blockquoted remarks. If the second is true, then you shouldn’t have made the first.
In my post [#18, above], I took two of your remarks from your post [#16], and responded to each. I read what I wrote before hitting “post” — and I found it quite coherent — but thank you for your opinion.
Moreover, everything I wrote — right up to:
“[F]ar from keeping the Jews from “controlling all of Palestine and without the Arab population” — those ceasefires were actually what made it possible for the Jews to sufficiently redress the imbalance in forces & materiel to win the war that neither Marshall nor Montgomery had thought remotely possible for the Jews as late as March of 48″
— was DIRECTLY and quite specifically relevant to refuting what you had said.
The detail was essential to ILLUSTRATE the point — and had I omitted it, you’d have simply accused me of speculating or speaking in broad generalities, when I knew that was not the case.
I’ve studied Jewish history since I was a kid, Yamit, and I know the pre-State (viz., Mandate) era pretty well — with specificity & precision. So a lot of it just comes spilling out of me without much coaxing.
And some of it is lifted whole from extensive writing I’ve previously done on the subject.
(As I’ve told you before, I plagiarize my own stuff shamelessly.)
If you find the language of posts like that to be too “historybook-like” for this medium, I’m sorry to discommode you.
If I had more time to spend online, you can rest assured that I would adjust the phraseology accordingly BEFORE copying & pasting it. I don’t have that kind of time. (At least, it’s my own work.) There is simply no time when I’m at the keyboard that I’m not racing the clock. That’s just the reality I have to deal with.
As for the “unattributed” sources you ask for, I can tell you that the excerpts of my writing that I included in the above post had about 12-15 sources. If you’ll identify the specific assertions (or contentions) that you question, I’ll do what I can to find you those sources.
Meanwhile, may I suggest you make the same complaint to Ovadya Shoher, who seems to have offered no sources in support of his OWN remarks in the essay from which you lifted those excerpts?
honeybee Said:
Creo que puedo manejar,
cuánto va a costar?
the phoenix Said:
Who else,Iam the smartest person I know,including Yamit 82. But not Tex[he looking over my shoulder]
yamit82 Said:
Esta ud. sin dinero? Bastante para un cine anoche?
@ honeybee:
Dear ms Texas,
I was referring to your post # 36….
Are you now arguing with yourself?
🙂
honeybee Said:
Touché / Estoy sin palabras
@ honeybee:
I use to have baby foxes dening in a metal culvert under the road. L oved to watch them play.
the phoenix Said:
That Mr Canada was a wolf.
the phoenix Said:
http://www.oe.eclipse.co.uk/nom/sagas.htm
@ the phoenix:
My other half: https://www.google.com/#q=vikings+wolves+of+war
the phoenix Said:
My friend has a place in Oregon where they raise angus, what wolves will do to a cow and calf is horrible.
@ yamit82:
“Woe to the non-Jews, who lost something but do not know what they lost. When the Temple stood, the altar atoned for them. Now who atones for them?!” (Sukkah 55b).
@ honeybee:
Dear honeybee,
Loved the picture of the fox! What an elegant creature…almost feline.
In fact I do not think there is such a thing as an ‘ugly animal’.
They all have their distinctive beauty and grace.
Haven’t posted much lately…. But I DO follow your saga…
😉
@ the phoenix:
first nations: http://youtu.be/6_3N0W9a9rU
yamit82 Said:
‘They’ve been ramping up for this for over 20 years’
New Brooklyn Messianic center set to missionize Orthodox neighbors
Chosen People Ministries to unveil its $3 million facility on Sukkot, amid claims to have already recruited Hassidic followers
@ the phoenix:
More foxes: http://youtu.be/Bqp04VbmCBg
@ honeybee:
1:18
http://youtu.be/TkV-of_eN2w
@ the phoenix:
All you ever wanted to know aout foxes: http://biblehub.com/songs/2-15.htm
@ the phoenix:
No wolves? Up there in Canada!
@ yamit82:
http://youtu.be/8twc6OpD898
yamit82 Said:
Tex is not bothered by scorpians. Water mocassins,cottonmouths and coral snakes do’t warn.
yamit82 Said:
How big is you bank account?
@ honeybee:
I’ve been bit so many times I have developed a natural immunity. On the kibbutz we used to sit in a large hall and watch movies the red scorpions bit me at least a half dozen times. We have vipers and they don’t warn you before attacking.
How big is your ranch?
@ yamit82:
My brother-in-law had a terrrible time with snakes in the bunkhouse toilet. Water moccasins and copperheads. Copperhead bit him,so off to San Antonio for anti-venom. He lived,came home and repaired the plumbing.
When my sister-in-law lived out on the ranch they would fill coffee can half full with karosene and place the bedfeet in the cans . Keep the bugs from suggling under the sheets. Try it.
honeybee Said:
So far we got only snakes, field mice and I hear foxes.
yamit82 Said:
I thought as much you were much the Zev today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ yamit82:
LIVE AND BE EVERYBODY And may the coyotes stay out of your succah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ yamit82:
@ honeybee:
Thanks HB, I slept lot and ate too much. My dog is nudging me to take her out so I will walk some of it off. 🙁
@ yamit82:
Thank you Yamit82 very informative. I hope you holiday was peacefull, last night the coyotes were singing near my ramada [sukkah] so no sleeping outside.
Peres is a Pole, my Dad’s relatives drank,but drunk never!
Dear yamit,
I have been reading your posts since my discovery of this incredible treasure called “israpundit” (thank you Ted! 🙂 ).
You have opened (for me) many doors to unknown chapters of Jewish history.
Just recently, you had a ‘little’ exchange with vinnie, where (I REALLY do not think it was sarcastic) he recommended you run for office. In fact, even myself, many months ago, made a similar comment where I said something like “run yamit, run (for office that is)”.
I think it is a safe bet, to say that with the exception of the curious guy all those that comment on this forum, and countless others that might not even be aware of this blog, hold Israel and its future dear to heart. Furthermore, it is extremely disheartening to read day in day out about the BETRAYAL of the Jewish Israelis by their own government.
This is not meant as flattery but as a pragmatic quest.
CuriousAmerican says:
Thanks for correction should have read: Not till (Kennedy) DID America agree to sell Israel weapons (Hawk missiles) which Israel paid for. Till 67 France was our primary benefactor and supplier of weapons and our Nuke reactor.
dweller says:
As to blaming the cease-fires, I disagree.
I said that while the Jews were losing or at least not winning America remained aloof and did not intervene to stop the apparent defeat of the Jews. The intervention by America through the UN they controlled only came about when the Jews began to win.
Whether the cease fires were in fact beneficial to Israel is besides my point. That was not the reason they were negotiated and imposed by the Americans.
You rambled on and on with information not specifically relevant and not contradicting what I wrote and contended.
So why such effort and SO MANY WORDS using un attributed sources in support of your historical overview?
In my reply to CA I omitted to say that the return of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and the reestablishment of Jewish sovereignty is G-d’s redemptive plan and that nothing will be allowed to stop or interfere with it.
The fact that the Jewish State was reborn immediately after the Holocaust, under miraculous circumstances, indicates a connection. Right after one of the most powerful nations in the world devotes most of its energies to destroying the Jewish people completely, the pitiful remnants of that people rose up against impossible odds and returned to their ancient homeland. How can anyone not see the Hand of G-d here?
Redemption is a supernatural event. Our leaders have been making every mistake in the book ever since this country was reborn. . . yet, in spite of this, Israel continues to grow and thrive. Our destiny cannot be thwarted and will be carried out to completion whether or not we help it along.
yamit says:
Except that it wasn’t really Yamit who said it.
It was Yamit who PARROTED it — as if he’d originally said it.
It was, in fact, Ovadya Shoher [“Samson Blinded”] who composed the actual words that appear (without quotation marks, or attribution) in much of this post.
FULL ESSAY HERE: http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm
yamit says:
Probably so — but there’s also no way that THEY would have helped turn the tide of the war in the Jews’ favor. (Might’ve even amounted to a drag & a burden on the effort.) Many, if not most, of them were demoralized & heartsick — their health destroyed & their families gone. And they sure as blazes weren’t trained for combat, far from it.
The Jews could’ve eventually controlled all of Palestine in ANY case, but Ben Gurion made a decision against it. (Whether wisely or foolishly is a different question, of course.)
As to blaming the cease-fires, I disagree.
For one thing, only the 2nd cease-fire was imposed. The first was negotiated.
It’s true that the Security Council had laid down the absurd provision that “no military advantage should be gained” by either side. But as Eban later noted, “Why two belligerents should accept a truce unless each hopes to improve its position seems incomprehensible to ordinary minds. But UN rhetoric has a life and style of its own, with little relation to real events outside.” [Abba Eban, My Country, p. 58]
And accordingly, both sides violated both truces flagrantly & frequently.
By the time the 1st truce took hold [11 June 48], half-a-year of fighting, with heavy losses (since the very day after the 11-29-47 partition resolution), had left the Jewish forces nearly spent, while the recently invading Arab formations (whose numbers had NOT been anticipated by the Jewish political or military leadership) were yet fresh, complete & intact, and would, moreover, further swell their numbers — by a factor of two-and-a-half: from 24,000 to 60,000.
It was during that 1st truce that armored vehicles, field pieces & ammo began arriving, by way of the French & the Czechs, with assistance from diaspora Jewish communities.
Much of the necessarily clandestine coordination of the Jews’ arms acquisition & shipment was provided by a Czech Jew, Jan Anton Hoch, who had evaded the Nazis during the war and had arranged significant contacts with Czechoslovakian & other European arms dealers. (Following the War of Independence, Hoch would make his way to the UK, where he became a successful & potent force in the publishing world and a 1964 British Labour MP — remembered with honor & gratitude in Israel under the name of: Robert Maxwell.)
Battle aircraft (often flown in “illegally” by veteran pilots of [WW2] air forces out of Britain, South Africa & the USA) started landing as well.
At least half of those pilots were not Jews — but Christians.
Frequently under cover of darkness, “Operation Black” beheld the arrival of a succession of reconstructed Spitfires, Hurricanes & deHavilland “Mossies” [Mosquito fighter-bombers], Dakotas, and three (3) B-17 Flying Fortresses, as well as Czech-built versions of the Messerschmitt Bf 109 — all of these often giving a wide berth to Flying Boxcars bringing desperately needed tanks, 75-mm artillery, rifles & machine guns to the defending Jews.
Moreover, the 4-week breather would bring frantic activity by the Palmach’s Jerusalem Brigade, assisted by Col. Mickey Marcus from the US, and aimed at widening Israel’s own “Burma Road” —the twisting, tortuous, chalky mountain bypass used for getting essential supplies to the besieged Jews of Jerusalem’s New City (Abdullah’s Arab Legion had cut the Tel Aviv Road).
The growing numbers of Arab units would receive generous infusions of British-supplied Spitfires, tanks, artillery, spare parts & ammo — with continued troop arrivals & deployments throughout the agreed-upon, brief respite, often assigning the reinforcements to interdict supplies from reaching outlying Jewish communities — all in anticipation of the next show-down. . . .
It was to arrive promptly on 9 July. Another 10 days of fierce combat — during which one of those IAF-piloted B-17’s hit Cairo & the next day another dropped a load of crates containing “large bottles” on Damascus, while an Israeli Dakota blew out the windows of the Syrian Parliament building — actually turned the tide of struggle somewhat more in Israel’s favor, at least by some indications (indications like the taking of Arab Lydda, Ramleh & Nazareth).
When the Security Council [remember the Security Council, Ladies & Gents? — it’s the body that can actually give orders & make enforceable demands (under Chapter VII), and which COULD have stepped in to stop the carnage before it started?: that Security Council?]. . . .
When the Security Council passed a resolution imposing the 2nd halt in the fighting: under penalty of economic sanctions — this hiatus, lasting until 15 Oct, would see field pieces coming to Israel from Mexico, artillery & anti-aircraft guns from Switzerland & Italy, surplus tanks from the States, and automatic weapons, rounding out the equipment addressal, from US surplus in (still pre-state) Hawaii.
There’s plenty more to be said, but I strongly suspect that — far from keeping the Jews from “controlling all of Palestine and without the Arab population” — those ceasefires were actually what made it possible for the Jews to sufficiently redress the imbalance in forces & materiel to win the war that neither Marshall nor Montgomery had thought remotely possible for the Jews as late as March of 48.
I doubt that you are. I bare no real scars from that period and many fond memories but I am angry because Begin and those who supported him did a very stupid and heinous thing by giving up Sinai. Life is a test one door or chapter closes others open, we roll with the punches. I did learn to Never Ever Trust Any politician or government though. You can fuck me over once and I will never give you knowingly a second try. I have had dinner with Ben Gurion and his wife Paula and his nephew was my next door neighbor on the Kibbutz. Have met Begin several times steadied Peres when he was stone drunk and about to fall on his sorry ass. Served under Sharon and Gordish. Was friendly with Meir Har Zion who saved my wife’s life once in a traffic accident. My life’s experiences are not unusual from many if not most Israelis my age who have lived in the country for a long time. Not impresses with our national icons and so called elites and leaders past present and probably future I’ve seen them all up close and sometimes personal, nothing to write home about.
Here is the real story. There were Bedouin but they were mostly migrant not permanent settlers anywhere in the area. Once they started to build Yamit the first thing they did was to pave a road to the site and further down 75 metes to the sea.
Falachin from Hebron came and settled on both sides of the road before any construction began. Anticipating Jewish settlement for work benefits and stuff to steal and they did all of these things. Bedouin moved into the Palm groves and built shanties but were adverse to work only theft. I lived with them for ten years supplied them with milk and ice cream for the kids. I would visit almost daily bring them stuff and drink their coffee and tea and bullshit with them but I never trusted them. They have been to my home and I theirs we respected each other in a way. The fallachim and Bedouin would fight ll the time and their was someone getting killed daily between them. We did not disturb them and from day one in Yamit till we left they were there and I assume picked over the ruins of Yamit for whatever was salvageable.
We employed many Arabs but non from these two groups. My workers came from Rafah and Khan Yunis. My dog used to steal their chickens but I paid them usually for the loss. If Sharon cleared them out before Yamit, it’s obvious to me they all came back because I lived with them and they never complained….at least to me. 1,500 families seems to be a gross exaggeration as they couldn’t support themselves on dates. The fisherman were north in Gaza and south at el Arish and not Bedouin. Once Yamit was up and running there were several thousand Bedouin families living there but not concentrated they were spread out for miles north and South. Anything not bolted down was stolen by them, theft for them is their avocation not work.
Not a single member of my family died in WW2, at least any I know about.
I have not really been hurt personally, I was paid over a half million $$$ to leave Yamit, not enough but something and moved on.
You confuse my disdain of christian missionaries and christianity for anger? Not anger, I despise both and consider both an enemy to be recognized confronted and defeated. Jews will never be secure as long as christians and muslims claim our identity and seek global hegemony.
I care nothing for the suffering of enemies. Non enemies of course but not at the expense of Jews. We come first in our list of concerns and priorities. We are not our brothers keepers.
His ideas are based on getting blood vengence. They do not ring well in the ear.
Are you saying vengeance is alien to christians???
Solutions which might have a good effect, but do not entail vengence he dismisses.
There is no justice with out vengeance and retribution.
He seems to prefer bloody victories to genuine peace.
There can only be genuine peace after bloody victories. Unless you consider the peace of the grave?
CuriousAmerican says:
The UN partition plan of 1947 was no boon to Jews, but meant to complete the Final Solution. The Jewish state was broken into three isolated enclaves, interspersed with Arab territory. The three “Jewish” enclaves contained 40 percent Arab populations. Thus the UN Security Council’s christian members ensured attacks on Israel both from without and from within. The Jews were to be annihilated.
My opinion is that the UN is irrelevant past present and future. A Jewish State would have come into being because it’s time had come and the circumstances were as favorable to the Jews as they had been in 2000 years.
How many fighters belonged to the Irgun and the Lechi? How many troops did the Brits have in Palestine? I have known personally many of them and I can tell you in all candor the just as the Brits could not stand up to those Jewish zealots neither would or could all of the Arabs. There was no way the Brits or the UN could keep a half million survivors locked up in concentration camps for much longer and most would have eventually have been smuggled into Palestine. Weapons would have been gotten for cold cash and smuggled into Palestine. Given some more time and will most if not all of the Arabs in Palestine would have been driven out and that includes the West Bank with all of Jerusalem.
You still play the christian numbers game but I argue that motivation and self sacrifice trumps numbers. The Jews after the holocaust had the motivation and the will and they would not be denied as per the results of the 47 war… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q0v7bY3zZ0
America did not intervene while the Jews were seen to be losing but only when they were winning. That same template has continued till today.
Stalin’s support for establishing Israel is only intelligible as a means of annihilating the Jews. Stalin didn’t mean Israel to be a socialist beachhead in the Middle East: It would be absurd for Russia to support Israel against the wishes of Arabs who possessed both human and territorial mass. The pattern of Russian arms sales to Israel in the War of Independence confirms that Stalin meant Israel to be a deathtrap for Jews: Russia only supplied Israel (through Czechoslovakia) outdated light weapons, primitive artillery, and some useless trophy aircraft with no spare parts (defending Tel Aviv in March 1948, three out of four Messerschmitt-109 aircraft were downed in the first raid). That was enough to prolong the war with the Arabs and make it bitter, but hardly enough to win it. But Israel took what was given and used them to good results in defeating the Arab numbers in men and equipment.
Had the Soviet Union wished for a Jewish victory, it could have supplied tanks, artillery, and aircraft (Stalin opposed the shipment of a meager sixty Spitfires through Yugoslavia), or simply sent a message to Arab capitals that the hugely respected USSR stood behind the Jewish state.
Czechoslovakia also supplied advanced weapons to Arabs (including 8,000 automatic rifles and 200 machine guns in a single shipment to Syria; the Lino affair). Many Soviet Jews (notably Dragunsky, later the official leader of Soviet anti-Semites) volunteered to fight for Israel but were not allowed to go. Overall, Soviet support for Israel was almost non-existent compared to the massive aid extended to Spanish communists fighting Franco, to Angola, and many other insurrections. When Israel survived, Russia began a major anti-Semitic campaign which culminated in the 1953 witch hunt against Jews and the wholesale deportation of Jews to the coldest place in Siberia—the very place Germans had earmarked for starving the Jews before proceeding to eliminate us in the death camps. Stalin died just days before the scheduled deportation.
Were it not for the UN imposed cease fires led by the Americans I believe that in Time Israel would have controlled all of Palestine and without the Arab population. Israeli socialists knew how to rid ourselves of the Arabs and did just that even though not enough. To add insult to injury, the US banned American Jews from going to Israel to fight, and embargoed arms shipments to Palestine. That didn’t affect the Arabs, who received arms supplies through other ports—notably in Egypt—and from Iraq and Syria. In effect, the arms embargo targeted Israel. The US voted for the UNSC resolution condemning Soviet arms shipments to Israel.
The US reiterated its policy of annihilating Israel in 1956. After Israel, besieged by fedayeen attacks for eight years, cleansed Sinai of the Egyptian militia, the US intervened, ordered Israel to halt, offered military aid to Egypt, and threatened direct intervention on Egypt’s behalf. Eisenhower pressed Israel to withdraw from the Sinai, promising the US would always intervene to keep the Tiran Straits open. He lied; in 1967 America not only refused intervention on Israel’s behalf, but prepared operational plans for landing the US Navy in the Sinai to defend Egypt against the Jewish army. Before the Six-Day War, US foreign policy was geared toward buying Egypt time to launch an offensive against Israel. The US-led UN withdrew its peacekeeping troops from the Sinai immediately upon Nasser’s demand.
The UN is only a reflection of the will of the major Powers then as now and is primarily the USA and Britain and to some degree France.
We owe them absolutely Nothing.
I live on land that once belong Amer. Indian,then Spain,then Mexico,then The Republic of Texas, then USA,then theConferate State of American, then USA, now there is talk of succesion again. CA “THINGS CHANGE” Oh Atztland want Texas returned to Mexico. Land belong to whomever can hold it!! Like or not, that reality.
My Tex’s ancestors cam from Bavaria,but his DNA says he is desended from the Huns. Should he return to Kazacstand and demand a arce or two?
I have “holdings” in Lodz,Poland,I don’t want ever see. And a small part of a farm in Smaland,Sweden.
Where do you live? and who does it really belong too?
I am aware of his experience with being evicted from Yamit in 1982.
He never addresses that Yamit was built on Egyptian Bedouin land and thousands of Bedouins were evicted to make way for Yamit. He probably does not care.
Some pain and suffering is more equal than others to Yamit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamit#History
Still, I am sure it was traumatic.
I am sure lots of his family died in WW2.
If his past hurt is justification for his anger – it might be; his expression of it does not help him.
Palestinian Arabs have their own hurt; and they express it badly, too.
His ideas are based on getting blood vengence. They do not ring well in the ear.
Solutions which might have a good effect, but do not entail vengence he dismisses.
He seems to prefer bloody victories to genuine peace.
@ Curious American: Have you ever!!! asked Yamit 82 why he is so angry toward “the goyem”. What occured in his life to cause such anger. All you do is condemn!!!!!!!!!
A significant proportion of the Democratic Jews are not pro-Israel and in particular the “elite”. It smells like a anti-Israel 5th column. These Jews undermine all the Jews of the world. What happened to Jews in Germany could happen to Jews in the US. What happens in the US academia is a kind of premonition.
Yamit says:
Nicely stated.
A pity that you couldn’t have put it in your own words (you do know how to DO that, right?)
— instead of those of the illustrious Mark Rosenblit. Full essay HERE: http://www.rosenblit.com/CREATE%20ISRAEL.htm)
Would it have hurt so much for you to have put quotation marks around the excerpt, and his name at the end (or the beginning)?
No miracle.
He saw (at first) a Jewish state as a way for the Hammer-&-Sickle to replace the Union Jack in the M-E, and also a chance to fulfill an age-old Russian geopolitical goal of acquiring a warm-water port. Didn’t work out that way for him, but that was the idea.
Furthermore, it wasn’t Stalin’s own direct support so much that counted in the War of Independence as it was the (effective) permission he gave the arms industry of his Czech vassal to re-supply the Palestine Jews with sidearms, esp. during the first cease-fire in the war.
Not too sure about that.
As quietly as it’s remembered today, the fact remains that the French actually played at LEAST as crucial a role on behalf of the Jews in the ’47-49 war as the USSR & the Czechs COMBINED played (in some ways, greater even).
Kennedy died in 1963.
You are a vile, hateful man. Truman was NOT anti-semitic. He was fighting the Arabists in his state department.
If they had given Israel everything West of the Jordan, there would have been an Arab Majority which would have voided the purpose of the Mandate
There was no way they could make Israel’s portion bigger without reducing the Jews to a minority. In fact, they actually wanted to make it bigger until a demographer pointed out that Jews would be a minority if they kept Beersheva in the 1947 Partition.
Jaffa was excluded for that very reason.
The only other options were:
1) the UN to have expelled the Arabs on Israel’s behalf
2) the UN agreed to persist in the Mandate – with open immigration to Jews – until a Jewish majority was built up. But who would have volunteered for that nasty duty. Both the Arabs and Jews wanted the Mandatory British out. Who was going to volunteer to replace them. Us, Americans?!
3) the UN told the Jews that the land is all yours, but you have to do your own expelling
I know you hate us Goyim, Yamit, but what would you have had the UN do in 1947?
San Remo did not oblige the League of Nations, nor the UN, to expel Arabs on behalf of the Jews.
As it was, the Jewish portion in 1947 was only 55% Jewish. If they added any more land, the Jewish percentage would have been less.
The Galilee was extraordinarily Arab, still is.
Jaffa was almost exclusively Arab.
In 1947, there were too many Arabs on the land to give you any more without creating a majority Arab state.
CA and the zev. Sent by the Almighty: http://youtu.be/RwwIFpw8_lQ
honeybee says:
That too!! 😉
CuriousAmerican
It is often asserted that the modern State of Israel was created by the UN Resolution as a byproduct of Europe’s alleged guilty conscience over its complicity in the Holocaust.
Israel’s juridical birth certificate is the pre-Holocaust League of Nations Mandate for Palestine of 1922 (provisionally operative from 1920) — not the post-Holocaust United Nations Palestine Partition Plan of 1947. Moreover, the Mandate was itself explicitly based upon the preexisting “historical connexion of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country” (Mandate for Palestine, Preamble, Paragraph 3).
Although widely accepted as an unassailable truism, this assertion is quite false.
Furthermore, if genuine European remorse over the Holocaust had really existed in 1947, then the United Nations General Assembly would never have issued its niggardly Palestine Partition Plan.
while the Holocaust did not create the State of Israel, the absence of the State of Israel did create the Holocaust. For, had the Jewish State already existed when Nazi Germany arose from the ashes of World War I, virtually all of those who perished in the Holocaust would, instead, have been forcibly expelled by Nazi Germany to a welcoming Israel; and, consequently, there would have been no Holocaust.
I agree there was never any real empathy of the nations with the Jews due to the holocaust. But miracle of miracles we pulled it off despite the animus of the Goyim with the miraculous help from Joe Stalin. Without Stalin we would have lost big.
Lots of myths re: Truman who was as much a Jew hater as is curious. As a politician who needed the Jewish vote and money who postured in favor of Israel then, when it counted, embargoed the Nascent State believing just about everyone that the Jews would be driven into the sea. Israel received little to no help from America in the war of independence and afterwards. Not till after the 67 war did America (Kennedy) agree to sell Israel weapons (Hawk missiles) which Israel paid for. Till 67 France was our primary benefactor and supplier of weapons and our Nuke reactor.
To see how far you Goyim have moved from that UN vote… How many votes today would Israel garner if it were first proposed to the UN?
If Ben Gurion did nothing else, our victory against all odds at that time belongs largely to him and a lot of help from the Boss up there!!!
@ Yamit: The Almighty has finely honed senxe of irony!!!
There was no sympathy for Israel, just boiler room Zionist planning.
That may have been a good thing; but there was less sympathy that is now portrayed.
The fact is: The Jews had few friends even after the Holocaust. Had they not worked some boiler room operations to rig the UN vote, they would not have gotten that.
Modern history likes to say that Israel had the world’s approval in 1947, and use that as a stamp of authority to justify Israel.
Wrong!
The real lesson is that if the Jews had depended on the UN, even in 1947, they would have lost.
Even Truman, the only world leader who had some sympathy for Israel, had a State Department which was Arabist, and defied his orders to vote pro-Israel. He told them to vote for Israel and they voted against Israel. He had to get on the radio himself because he knew his administration was working against his own orders.
The tilt towards Israel was very weak. Very weak. And it died long before 1967, if it ever was even there, at all.
Even the UN Partition vote had to be rigged, because Israel was going to lose.
Zionist groups had the vote postponed for 3 days, then they called three ambassadors from the Philippines, Haiti, and Liberia, who were swing votes.
All 3 nations planned to vote no; especially the Philippines which had – and still has – a Muslim population in its South Islands. There were threats of foreign aid cutoffs. The Zionists even had some impersonators call up on the phone and pretend to be American politicians threatening that there would be consequences for a no vote.
Had the vote be cast when originally planned, Israel would have lost. Had the threats not been made, Israel would have lost.
There was not as much sympathy for Israel as now portrayed. A lot of it was co-ordinated Zionist planning to press some political pressure; sometimes by shady methods.
Truman – who was a supporter of Israel, himself – was furious. As he put it, he wanted the vote to be honest, not rigged by threats.
And not just the Jews.
The ruling classes of Chile were pro-Jewish; but coerced to abstaining because Chile has a lot of Palestinian rich elites.
The real collapse was in 1956, when the world saw Israel allied with Imperial Britain and France.
christian Europeans traded their Jews for Muzzies and they will choke themselves on them, hopefully to their collective deaths.
G-d does have a sense of humor.
I recall the words prescribed by the Passover hagada, the Biblical words of the Psalms, that proclaim:
“Pour forth Your wrath upon the nations that do not recognize You and upon the kingdoms that do not invoke Your name. For they have devoured Jacob and destroyed his habitation. Pour forth Your fury upon them and let Your burning wrath overtake them. Pursue them with anger and destroy them from beneath the heavens of the L-rd.”
Biblical Jewish response should be today as then: “let the high praises of G-d be in their throat and a two edged sword in their hand – to execute vengeance upon the nations…” (Psalms 58)
“The L-rd hath made Himself known through the judgment He executes” (Psalms 9).
‘Then did Moses and the children of Israel sing,’ this is what is meant by the verse (Psalms 9): ‘The L-rd is known by the judgment He executes.’
This is nothing more than the fulfillment of prophecy, the in gathering of the exiles and Esau and Ishmael gathered against Jerusalem heralding the end of days.