The West’s boomerang

T. Belman. Both the US and Europe are being overwhelmed by refugees and migrants as a result of Obama’s policies. Obama with the support of Britain and France overthrew Qadaffi resulting in the destruction of Libya and the invasion of Europe by refugees from there. Obama also decided to overthrow Assad and supported all kinds of Sunni groups to do so. Now he has switched gears and is supporting keeping Asaad in power of a smaller Syria. As a result 250,000 people are dead and hundreds of thousands of refugees are streaming into Europe. Lebanon is destabilized and Jordan is threatened. Obama also removed the last American marines from Iraq a few years ago and now Iraq has fallen apart. Iran has begun taking over Shiite Iraq and is also trying to destabilize Yemen. Obama has decided that what is needed in the ME is Iran hegemony so he is aiding them to achieve it. Talk about a screw up.

By Boaz Bismuth, ISRAEL HAYOM

It has been a difficult summer for Europe. After the economic crisis in Greece rattled EU stability, the worst refugee crisis since World War II is now threatening the Schengen Agreement of 1985, which established the gradual abolition of border checks.

While EU heads of state are struggling to find a solution, hundreds of thousands of refugees continue to flood into Europe through any possible breach, on land and sea.

Extreme right-wing parties on the continent are exploiting the dire situation to further radicalize their immigration policies, primarily because the average EU citizen believes immigration is the most concerning issue of the day.

The horrific story of 60 men, eight women and three children whose bodies were found in a refrigeration truck in Austria on Thursday has grabbed people’s attention. Apparently, the deceased were from Syria. They fled one horror only to find a worse one. It is unclear who is more cruel — Islamic State terrorists or the people who let them across the border with the promise of a better life.

In the case of the Syrian refugees, they really aren’t seeking a better life, rather just to live. Twenty-four hours prior to the refrigerator truck incident, dozens of refugees drowned in the Mediterranean Sea. As the horrific stories at sea become commonplace, the Europeans need to be aware that if they don’t cope with the illegal immigration and refugee problem they are liable to see an increase in similar atrocities.

EU leaders are anxious. The sizeable refugee crisis, which has grown significantly worse because of the war in Syria and Iraq, is now undermining one of the EU’s fundamental cornerstones — the aforementioned Schengen Agreement. Many citizens in Germany, France and Great Britain have no faith in the barbed wire fence haphazardly being built by Hungary. The average German citizen is surely thinking to himself: What, after finally absorbing my brothers from the East, I now have to absorb the rest of the world? In all likelihood this is not sitting well with him. In France, far Right leader Marine Le Pen has already declared the need to end all immigration — legal and illegal.

Newspaper headlines in Britain are also testifying to Europe’s considerable anxiety. For anyone who has forgotten, incidentally: The EU won the Nobel Peace Prize several years ago. The refugees are today are calling that prize into question.

Europe now needs to decide what to do. Perhaps the need is for a joint solution, whereby countries will share the burden together; or perhaps every country will seek to cope with the problem on its own — which of course could potentially lead to the far right rising to power in an EU member state.

It would also be remiss not to address the EU’s foreign policy mistakes, aided by the United States, which have contributed to the crisis. In the name of a promised democracy, the EU helped topple Gadhafi in Libya, greatly increasing the number of refugees. In Syria, meanwhile, in the name of some far-fetched hope for stability, Assad has not been toppled and 4 million Syrian refugees are the result.

And, as we know, when mistakes are made the piper must be paid.

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  1. @ dove:
    to make injury into insult the UN and Euros want us to feel sorry for those who fire rockets at jewish children, who teach their children we are sons of pigs and apes and who train their toddlers in jew killing summer training camps
    what is considered a bad thing by them, for me is a blessing and a welcome event:
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QqQIwAGoVChMIovvnoP_WxwIVxnQ-Ch1-qgLd&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftime.com%2F4019509%2Fgaza-uninhabitable-unctad%2F&usg=AFQjCNFg0X56nUGmbjCWHV5qRxvs_mYQCA&sig2=ib6cJFhxqyWvqKCy10-ZuQ&bvm=bv.101800829,d.cWw
    they deserve every rotten thing they get

  2. @ bernard ross:

    Here is your poetic justice bernard!

    Gaza Rockets Explode on Palestinian Side, Cause Casualties
    Two rockets were fired by Gaza terrorists miss their mark and hit the Gaza side of the border. PA media says one of them hit a home.
    By Ben Ariel
    First Publish: 9/2/2015, 12:14 AM

    Created by Wibbitz

    Two rockets that were fired by Gaza terrorists on Tuesday night exploded on the Gaza side of the border.

    Palestinian Authority-based media reported that one of the rockets exploded in the vicinity of a home, causing casualties.

    The incident marks the second time in less than 24 hours that Gaza terrorists have unsuccessfully attempted to fire a rocket on Israel.

    Sirens were heard on Tuesday morning, around 5:20 a.m. local time, in the Hof Ashkelon area of southern Israel, but the IDF said that the sirens were a result of a failed attempt to fire rockets from Gaza.

    There have been several rocket attacks from Gaza in recent weeks, but there have been several instances in which the rockets missed Israel. In the last month alone three such rockets fell in Gaza, landing short of their mark.

    While Hamas has had its rocket arsenals buoyed up by Iranian and other foreign technology, an Israeli crackdown on smuggled weaponry and weapon materials together with an Egyptian siege on the Sinai border has led Hamas to turn increasingly to its domestic rocket production industry to create new missiles.

    That domestic rocket development has seen Hamas fire many dozens of rockets into the Mediterranean Sea over the course of the last year as part of its rocket testing program.

  3. Felix Quigley Said:

    Ross has still not answered me with my specific request on where he stands on the enslavement of Yazedi girls by ISIS,

    why would someone who never answers my direct questions which show you up to be a fake, expect answers from anyone. when you asked me about Yazidis and copts I asked you if the copts were anti semites and you ignored the question but you never brought them up again… now you just ask about the yazidis but avoid answering whether the copts are anti semites, when you asked us to weep for them. another question you never answer is why the Jews should support the anti semite Assad rather than enjoy the enemies of Israel and the Jews to Kill each other.
    I did answer the yazidi question when you asked why I did not speak about their enslavement, etc: I said I also do not speak of those enslaved by boko haram or many others enslaved by muslims throughout the world. I am interested primarily in Jewish and Israeli interests…. may of those with chopped heads were anti israel and anti semitic. recently the yazidi leadershiip complained about the canadian jew who said he saved Yazidi women from rape and enslavement… they said that the girls were not raped by IS and they were not aware of his saving any. reporting from the ME is like reporting on the Jenin massacre, Israel apartheid and gaza wars… it is notoriously inaccurate and geared to propaganda. I told you before that the same reporters are used on the syria scenario so I do not accept the massive figures coming from them.
    You also never answered as to why Israel should be interested in trotskyism. You always ignore the most pertinent questions.
    I do not weep for anti semites. When rachel corrie was killed I saw it as justice. when the honor killers massacre each other in the ME I see it as justice. When, as I predicted the hordes of honor killers, hired by the euros and euro BDS churches to kill Jews, instead flock to europe like a pharonic plague I see justice. Europe and european BDS churches have the choice to cease stalking, libeling and swindling the Jews and to cease hiring the honor killers to do their dirty work.
    You and CA come here seeking for us to focus on others rather than our own problems, this is part of a campaign to distract Jews from protecting themselves and seeing their real enemies.

    why haven’t you said anything about the US electrical union which just voted to boycott Israel? this interests me.
    why haven’t you said anything about the daily incitement of euros and euro BDS churches of the arabs on the west bank?
    It is all euro ngo’s who gather daily to incite pals and spread libel against the Jews… and you want be to speak of yazidis?
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-nabi-saleh-an-all-too-predictable-black-eye-for-israel/
    pals killed a jewish baby by stone throwing but all of europe seeks to condemn the soldier and minimize the stone throwing boy.
    I dont know why you wonder that I hope for a speedy flood of honor killers to europe to end their perennial plague on the Jews. It is fitting that Ishmael chop esau’s head after esau incited him to kill Jacob.
    Like I said before you asked us to weep… whats not to like
    when I saw ghadaffi in the meat freezer, I was pleased.
    When I see assad in the freezer, i will be pleased….
    when I see euro BDS blood libelers in the freezer, I will be pleased
    Perhaps you can get other jews to weep for the anti semites, but not me. If you were here in Moses time, you would have us weeping for pharoah’s first born…. after all, I am sure that some Jews were weeping for pharoahs first born just as they do now.

  4. In reference to comments 11 and 12 the arrogance of Bernard Ross is very much on show. There are 16 comments and the majority about 13 are coments by Ross. Is this a discussion on Israpundit or an obliteration by numbers. And where are the rest of the usual commenters? Ross has still not answered me with my specific request on where he stands on the enslavement of Yazedi girls by ISIS, or can I add to that the flattening of historical sites in Syria. When people do not deal with specifics then you know they are engaged in pushing out a dogma.

  5. Long before the 21st century Islamic Wars started, Europe sleeping and antisemitic, showed a blatant inability of dealing with Islamism. They have preferred to double down on antisemitism/anti-Israel, and in return they got more “Islamic immigration” which can adroitly be use by the Islamists to further Islamize Europe. The decision (intentional or not) of Obama to withdraw from Iraq and ignore his “transparent red lines” aggravates the situation of Europe and may play in the Muslim fanatics. In the meantime BHO has open the gates of the US to Islamic migration!!! He used the “Whites”, ignored the “Blacks” and prefers the muezzin!

  6. ‘Largest Mediterranean gas field’ found off Egypt coastItalian energy corporation says ‘supergiant’ discovery can fill Egyptian natural gas demand ‘for decades’
    https://www.israpundit.org/archives/63609180/comment-page-1#comment-63356000160312

    tunisia, Libya, egypt, Lebanon, syria, gaza(qatar)…. all on the med… My suspicion is that this was known before and that we will hear of more “discoveries” along the Med. I think the shoe dropped on the arab spring

  7. muslims terrorize jewish children on th eMOunt and the guards do nothing… a scandal in the land of Israel where “jews” rule the land. At the least each one of those involved should be banned for life, I prefer they are beaten also. Meanwhile, Yaalon and rivlin are busy arresting and incarcerating Jews rather than protecting them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaam9b6wrIM

  8. Ted Belman Said:

    The US troops should have stayed there to make sure that Iran doesn’t take over Iraq.

    NO…. the sunni jihadis will make sure of that, better they stay and nibble at Iran and proxies. the training camps can receive more from foreign. No reason for american deaths without any benefit, much of the oil went to russia and china anyway.

  9. Ted Belman Said:

    Iraq under Hussein was a bulwark to stop the advance of Iran.

    it is better when they are all at war and killing each other… when they make peace is the problem. after the iran iraq war saddam prevented nothing of Irans threats to Israel and himself became a bigger threat to Israel. accept the blessing, accept the misery of the enemy, accept their crippling.. “dont look a gift horse in the mouth”
    the current war and instability is the blessing to Israel, when it ends the trouble will begin again. Accept the blessing while it lasts, facilitate its continuation, hope that it goes to europe and confounds the Jews greatest enemies who blood libel Jews and incite Ishmael for thousands of years…. accept the blessing before it disappears 🙂

  10. Ted Belman Said:

    What you have now is great instability and war.

    this is the crux of the old paradigm: that instability and war in surrounding enemy lands is bad. this is stale thinking and no longer relvant to current times. the instability and war in syria, iraq, lebanon,egypt have all proven beneficial to Israel.
    as a prognosis the sacred view of hashemite stability is an idol deserving of sacrifice. why is this absurd idol maintained? Because they are afraid that the replacement wil be worse. but we can see what is worse in syria. If Jordan were destabilized, the hashemites deposed, then Israel would have the opportunity to go in and install a more friendly gov who would open the border and accept the pals or even just drive the pals across once the hashemites are deposed. that is a fantastic potential blessing which has the potential of completely solving the pal problem. Israel needs to think out of the box. the hashemites are no good for jews, the jews want them because they are not attempting to kill jews daily. but they are also inciting at the mount and other holy places. they are of no value as Israel does not need the fake bulwark which can crumble at the drop of a hat anyway.

  11. Ted Belman Said:

    I didn’t suggest a reason for the open border in the US but do know that conservatives don’t like it

    the conservatives are not the establishment GOP who have supported “immigration reform”. the conservatives,like the radicals, always find it hard to get elected because their focus is to fit solutions to problems into a pre ordained ideology whereas most voters want pragmatic solutions rather than ideologies.
    Ted Belman Said:

    Iraq under Hussein was a bulwark to stop the advance of Iran.

    No, it did not stop Irans advancement into hexbullah, assad and hamas. It did not prevent Irans growth after the Iran Iraq war, it was a threat to the Jews, saddam fired scuds into Israel . His demise and Iraqs breakup is wonderful!!!! Iran is a catalyst in the breakup and fragmentation of iraq and syria.. the current fragmentation is better than saddam who paid 25k per terrorist and was able to control military resources with an anti semitic agenda. right now they are all weak and fighting. Now the issue is Irans nukes and the terror money but that does not lessen the blessing of a decimated iraq, syria, hamas, assad, etc.
    Ted Belman Said:

    He wanted to remove the secular dictators that weren’t causing trouble with Islamists.

    this is the problem… the islamists have been araound working with saudi and the US since 80’s afghan. why would you not be happy that ghadaffi, saddam and assad are in meat freezers or crippled????????? Jews are always looking to future phantoms and degrading the current blessings… How could one envison a better situation for Israel against its enemies in the ME and europe than what exists right now???? Perhaps you have not noticed,that other than irans proxies…. all those assemobed islamist in syria are hardly giving any problem to Israel other than rhetoric(which even while cooperating you know they must say) You need a scientific objective, non pc, out of the box look at the current situation frozen at this moment in time and the last few years. YOu need to make sure that your assessment of current facts is not muddied by future fears as those fears can turn out oppositely. the future prognosis for Israel is better now than before the muslim spring. their enemies are weaker, some even seek normalization, Israel has become a player in ME politics.
    Ted Belman Said:

    What you have now is great instability and war.

    great instability, war, chaos are what every military strategist seeks to obtain in the land of his enemies… only the Jews arrive to the table with a million, yeh buts. facts are facts. Even for the west and US jihadis are leaving their countries and going to fight in muslim deserts to hopefully die. who could ask for a better resolution if you wanted rid of jihadis?

  12. Many citizens in Germany, France and Great Britain have no faith in the barbed wire fence haphazardly being built by Hungary.

    a fitting punishment as they fought against the israel wall to protect jews so now they must suffer the consequences of their war on the jews. They must be eaten by their pets and proxies, a fitting and ironic justice.
    In the same way they ignored dead jewish children form their proxies, their children will be consumed by the pied pipers rats. I wonder if they will repent and cease their pharonic war on the jews?

  13. @ bernard ross:I didn’t suggest a reason for the open border in the US but do know that conservatives don’t like it.
    Iraq under Hussein was a bulwark to stop the advance of Iran. The US troops should have stayed there to make sure that Iran doesn’t take over Iraq.

    Obama choose to destablize Libya, Eqypt and Syria. He wanted to remove the secular dictators that weren’t causing trouble with Islamists. What you have now is great instability and war.

  14. It has been a difficult summer for Europe. After the economic crisis in Greece rattled EU stability, the worst refugee crisis since World War II is now threatening the Schengen Agreement of 1985, which established the gradual abolition of border checks.

    While EU heads of state are struggling to find a solution, hundreds of thousands of refugees continue to flood into Europe through any possible breach, on land and sea.

    so… how many plagues will the pharonic euroscum receive before they get the picture? I sit here watching them receive their plagues but like the pharaoh they continue with their filthy ways.

  15. And, as we know, when mistakes are made the piper must be paid.

    this article fails to mention what I consider very relevant to the euro woes: the continued stalking, libeling, swindling of the Jews via the proxy Israel and the funding and moral support given by europe, its govs, its civil institutions, its BDS churches to organizations committed to the destruction of the state of the Jewish people.

    In the same way that the enemies of Israel in the ME are cannibalizing each other, I expect the plight of europe to worsen with more ironic plagues until they cease their pathological obsessions to destroy the Jews. Until then we should expect them to be plagued by their pets,and deservedly and rightly so.
    as for Israels relation with the euros a lesson can be drawn from egypt:

    gypt summons UK ambassador over criticism of Al-Jazeera trial
    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2015/Aug-30/313291-egypt-summons-uk-ambassador-over-criticism-of-al-jazeera-trial.ashx?utm_medium=email&utm_source=transactional&utm_campaign=Newsletter

    I have never heard of an israeli ambassador calling in the euro filthy pigs and demanding they cease their libels of illegal and illegitimate Jewish settlement in the land of Israel, which the liars themselves guaranteed and acknowledged as an obligation to facilitate and encourage. I never heard of the Israeli gov charging reporters from blood libeling eurofilthy media being indicted and jailed for spreading lies, the same kind of lies that their filthy ancestors spread for the same intention to incite the murder of Jews.

    It appears that egypt has more national pride, more dignity than the GOI who continue to accept these filthy euro insults and abuses of the Jews… Is it because of the euro money?
    every european BDS liar needs the equivalent of a rifle butt in the face from Lt eisnor.

    Instead the shameful and incompetent leadership of rivlin and Yaalon, immediately jumps on a lynch bandwagon of settlers without a shred of evidence, in order to appease the filthy euro blood libelers and their jew killer muslim proxies.

    the state of Israel needs to defend Israel and the Jews from the filthy swindles and abuse by the euro govs and their BDS churches. it is a war, and the war should be brought to their homes. At the least the gazans and west bank arabs should be helped to join the flood of honor killers to europe.

  16. T. Belman:

    Both the US and Europe are being overwhelmed by refugees and migrants as a result of Obama’s policies.

    the euro immigration crisis and the US crisis are different. Obama precipitated the flood but is supported by the establishment GOP. I suspect that the baby boom aging requires lots of carers, more immigrants young enough to get and american education and pay into SSA. The SSA deficit coupled with baby boom aging may be what is behind the US immigration. If a massive immigration is needed then better the latin christians than the african and ME muslims which the euros are getting. I am against the illegal immigration but I suspect an unspoken reason.

    Obama with the support of Britain and France overthrew Qadaffi resulting in the destruction of Libya and the invasion of Europe by refugees from there.

    I see only positives in your sentence: a dead ghadaffi who sought the destruction of Israel in a muslim run state, the fragmentation of libya whereby oil money went to fund anti semitic venture globally including farakhan, and the resulting flood of refugees to the perennial jew stalkers might sap some of their energy now directed towards funding jew killers and blood libeling jews.

    Obama also decided to overthrow Assad and supported all kinds of Sunni groups to do so.

    I am stil waiting for the bad part. Assad claims the golan but without a border there he will have no claim. the assads have always focused their population on anti Israel genocidal rhetoric. We should be happy at the deposition or death of any anti semite.

    Now he has switched gears and is supporting keeping Asaad in power of a smaller Syria.

    A fragmented syria of statelets or tribes is best for Israel so that military resources cannot be aggregated into a single military power. it appears to me that Obama plays a shell game of false flags, we cannot know where he is as he pretends to bomb IS but leaves them intact. IS is the only successful sunni proxy in the region that achieves the GCC goals. the main thing is that a fragmented syria with weak groups is good.

    As a result 250,000 people are dead …

    first, I have never believed the inflated figures coming out in the same way I did not believe the figures of Jenin and gaza. The same “reporters”, and stringers, that propagated those myths now supply the figures along with the same human rights orgs who defame Israel. Second, it is my understanding that most of the citizens of Iraq and Syria were anti semitic, called for the destruction of Israel, drove their Jews out, and marched in parades calling “death to the Jews”…. if it is correct then not only would I have no sympathy but I would force myself to accept that hundreds of thousands less anti semitic, genocidal, intolerant nutters on the earth is a good thing for my family. Perhaps its time that Jews got off the bandwagon of PC parroting of liberal doublespeak that ends in dead jews.

    and hundreds of thousands of refugees are streaming into Europe.

    again a good thing….. the euros deserve punishement for their jew stalking and funding of jew killers today, the euros need the education of experiencing the life that they try to foist on the Jews, the euros need their energy and resources directed away from pursuing jews, libeling jews and funding jew killers… this may provide one route to that goal.

    Lebanon is destabilized…

    again a good thing as destabilization in the lands of the enemy is GOOD! Further this is the home of the iran shia proxy who has till now a solid domestic base. friction with lebanons sunnis and a civil war between them there is good for all the same reasons already given. all the results thus far of the sunni shia war is good for Israel as it has severely reduced the capacity of war of hamas and hezbullah, the blowback reaction of any iran strike.

    Jordan is threatened…..

    although I do not buy the IS threat to Jordan, any threatening of Jordan is good. The old paradigm of a stable jordan and syria being good are dead. the hashemite throne is the only obstruction to a palestine state and of west bank arabs moving eastward. If the hashemites were deposed by jihadis then Israel can go in to restore stability and see to it that the border is opened eastward. Also the hashemite wakf breaches their agreements, libels jewish connections in Israel and facilitates abuse of jews on the MOunt and in holy places. Unlike the current BS right wing I find these unaceptable. Its time for thinking out of the box for Israel, of leaving the shtetle mentality of accepting as good any hiatus in jew killing and instead actively influencing outcomes in the ME using their military power as the stick and their technological advancements for development in water, medicine, and agriculture as the carrot.

    Obama also removed the last American marines from Iraq a few years ago and now Iraq has fallen apart.

    again, a good thing, this had already happened under Bush. the fragmentation of iraq and syria is good. sadam paid the pals 25k for pal terror per terrorist… now he is pushing up daisies…. all good things which ungrateful Jews repudiate because they are myopic.

    Iran has begun taking over Shiite Iraq and is also trying to destabilize Yemen.

    this happened under bush in Iraq. but the result is better for jews than the saddam iraq: a weakened and fragmented iraq and a stronger kurdish nation. as for Yemen: without irans meddling in the sunni hegemony the sunnis would still today be screaming for death to the Jews….. like I said: chaos, misery, suffering and death in the lands of the enemies and anti semites is a good thing

    Obama has decided that what is needed in the ME is Iran hegemony so he is aiding them to achieve it.

    frankly, it is difficult to see his agenda from his actions as i beleive he still supports the sunni drive to fragment iraq, syria and lebanon and weaken Iran. Perhaps it is the final jockeying in an agreement to divide the area, who knows. In any case only Iran having nukes and money for terror is the problem.. as for the nukes that should have been done by Israel and BB years ago. I still foresee the possibility of the suni jihadis and the internal iran minorities bringing the destabilization to Iran, hence their need not to bomb the IS camps.

    Talk about a screw up.

    other than the iran nukes and terror money most of your points would have me voting for him to screw up even more. 🙂

  17. “I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you.” The EU may ignore this warning but they cannot evade the reality.