By Daniel Greenfield, FPM
Forget the Grand Prix or the Daytona 500, the real race right now is the race to Damascus. The racers include Syrian rebels in pickup trucks with mounted machine guns and homemade tanks, toting weapons and equipment supplied and paid for by Qatar and Turkey, and more covertly by the British and French intelligence services. Racing along with them are carloads of international diplomats urging their governments to give the Islamist militias more money and more weapons.
Everyone is on the road to Damascus in this amazing race. Christian refugees from Aleppo, Alawites packing in behind the tanks of the Syrian army and Iraqi militias that used to plant IEDs in front of American Humvees, who have found new work blowing up churches and taking over Syrian bases.
The Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Hezbollah’s militias out of Lebanon are shooting at Al Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood militias from across the Middle East and even Europe. Imagine the Crips and the Bloods, armed to the teeth by every country from Mexico to China, fighting over the ruins of California cities, and you get some idea of the glorious Syrian civil war being fought by the Brave Syrian People in a conflict that will determine once and for all who will be ethnically cleansing who this year.
The Syrian rebels are Sunni. The Syrian regime is Alawite, which is close enough to Shiite in a region where most Sunnis hate Shiites. This isn’t some heroic battle between the people and the dictator; it’s a religious war. And in a newly Islamist region, religion is the best possible reason that anyone can think of for a war, that will just incidentally happen to realign a strategic piece of territory from the Shiite axis to the Sunni axis.
We, as befits the nation that Obama described as one of the largest Muslim countries in the world, happen to be in the Sunni axis, ensconced somewhere between the fattest child-molesting members of the Saudi and Qatari royals, the most vicious Turkish and Egyptian Islamists, and the Eurocrats looking to score oil deals with the former and arms deals with the latter, and political points with their domestic population of Sunni Islamists who have the unfortunate habit of blowing things up.
On the road to Damascus, the politicians and pundits tell us that we cannot simply sit things out. Someone is bound to remove Assad and we had better be in good with whoever does.
The UK, which dragged Obama into Libya the way an elderly lady drags a poodle into a pub, is frantically urging us to stop just looking the other way while Qatar and Turkey arm the Syrian rebels, and to get into the rebel-arming business ourselves.
Considering how well that worked out in Libya, we should probably hurry and start arming the Syrian rebels right now. The sooner we give them weapons, the less likely they are to use them against us. Or so the reasoning of the people who brought you Iran, September 11 and September 11 II: The Mohammed Video Diaries goes. And with a track record like that, how could they possibly be wrong?
If we give the right Syrian rebels the weapons, then they will win, instead of the wrong Syrian rebels. But if we don’t, then the wrong Syrian rebels will win, and even the right Syrian rebels will hate us and turn wrong, and before you know it they’ll be shooting at us with the weapons we didn’t give them.
Telling apart the right Syrian rebels from the wrong Syrian rebels is tricky. The Free Syrian Army, once hailed as a moderate secular organization, has more Al Qaeda in it than the dirt in Tora Bora. The head of this moderate secular opposition, Sheikh Mouaz Al-Khatib, who had previously praised Saddam for “terrifying the Jews,” objected to the American declaration that the Al-Qaeda militias are terrorists.
“The logic under which we consider one of the parts that fights against the Assad regime as a terrorist organization is a logic one must reconsider,” Al-Khatib said, and it’s hard to argue with his logic. The difference between the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda is that the Muslim Brotherhood wins an election before shooting people in the streets while Al Qaeda shoots people in the street without waiting for an election.
To the Democracy Uber Alles crowd, this makes a big difference, but the people being shot are still dead either way.
No serious thinkers seriously think that not siding with either side is an option. When confronted with Muslim terrorists, they begin searching for moderates in the rubbish bin, and with a working definition of a moderate that includes anyone less extreme than the most extreme of the extreme, they keep finding moderate Syrian rebels who will be our friends tomorrow for a few RPGs today.
Today we have to support the Muslim Brotherhood for fear that Al Qaeda will take over. Tomorrow we will have to support Al Qaeda for fear that Al-Takfir Wa Al-Hijra will take over. And then we’ll have to support the Takfiris for fear that Itbach Al-Kul Ulum will take over. And the day after our leaders will have no choice but to nuke the entire planet for fear that an asteroid will hit it instead. The radiation will be bad, they tell us, but at least nuclear weapons are moderate. Asteroids are extreme.
The Muslim Brotherhood is running torture chambers in Egypt and shooting protesters in the street, but we’re still shipping them free F16s and helping them take over Syria. Because if we don’t help them, how will we have any influence over them? If the Muslim Brotherhood can’t non-violently seize power in Syria through a violent civil war, there is a risk that they will turn to violence again. And that means they’ll start trying to violently take over countries without going through the formality of fighting a civil war to take them over first.
Every leader of Al Qaeda was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, but since the Muslim Brotherhood, like the New Left, is willing to non-violently take us over through front groups and immigration, rather than flying planes into buildings, they’re our idea of the good guys, even if they have the same objectives as Al Qaeda, just a different way of getting there. But you could probably say the same thing about the people who were running the USSR in 1932 and the people who are running the United States and the European Union in 2012.
Obama isn’t satisfied with wrecking just Libya, Tunisia and Egypt. Russia isn’t satisfied with financing 50 years of war in the region even though it’s on the verge of bankruptcy. Prime Minister Cameron of the UK and President Hollande of France aren’t satisfied with being on the verge of bankruptcy and only wrecking Libya. And like Bob Hope, Bing Crosby and Dorothy Lamour, they’re all on the road to Damascus. Or the road to hell.
And so on they go, all together, rebels and diplomats, throat-slashers and powdered-hair personalities, embedded into a conflict, racing to Damascus, eager to raise the flag, report on the historic moment, negotiate deals and deliver speeches. Obama probably already has his written and it will probably be the same exact speech he delivered when Mubarak fell and Gaddafi got sodomized to death. There will be lots of moving sentiments about hope and change, peace and freedom, the choice of the people and the transition to democracy.
And then the real killing will begin.
“I was identifying the nature of fascism.”
I just don’t give a shit about what you’re trying to identify.
“In fact waging friendship is a form of aggression -waging good instead of waging evil.”
Hey, whatever works for you. Let me know how that turns out for you. Like I said, I’m not interested in your philosophy. And if it’s so great, why haven’t I heard of you before? If your ideas are so life-changing, why do you sign as simply “Max”? Why not use your real name like I do? Are you afraid you’ll be killed while adapting your “friendship is a form of aggression” idea?
“If you want to know how to oppose the elites, I give you an answer, it is not with money. The only way is to start another political party which will oppose their parties (IE both (in USA) or all three of their parties) – one that will work for the people and not for the elites and in the process somehow to wrest control of the media from them to the public domain or at least open to public inspection and control.”
You can start another political party WITHOUT money? Where? In the Sudan? Surely not in the West. “Money answers all things.” You fight the “elites” (since you’re so gifted and can do so without financial aid…I can’t) and I’ll fight the anti-Semites.
“I’m sorry no one in N. AM. has a future.”
Speak for yourself. You say “no one in N. AM. has a future” and C.R. says everyone who disagrees with him is a whore. You guys don’t make friends often, I’m guessing. When you start representing your ideas with your real name, then I’ll know you actually have a measure of confidence in your own ideas. Otherwise you’re nothing more than another full-of-shit political hack to me. You should think seriously about joining Felix Quigley in Cuba. Have a few rounds of Havana rum with him and begin your political quest from there. All beginnings are difficult (even more so without money).
“It’s something I know from experience but difficult to explain.”
I can tell. I’ve worked up a sweat just reading your last two posts. Havana rum should do the trick for you.
“you’ll have to catch me on another thread Michael.”
I haven’t tried to “catch” you anywhere: I just happened to comment on your brand of communism (or whatever the hell it is).
“Hmmm…actually the people you work for (you might say ‘Canada INC’). pay taxes to the Government, you don’t.”
Hmmm…yeah, I do pay taxes. It comes out of my earnings, therefore I pay taxes. So does my employer. What the hell kind of convoluted bullshit are your trying to sell here? That’s the problem with people like you: you talk to those who dissent from your stupidity as though we’re ridiculous and you’re not. Yeah, you need to move to Cuba with Felix Quigley. But before you go, you might think about psychoanalysis for the sake of your own sanity instead of those of us without a future. If anyone does not have a future in N.A., it’s you. In Cuba with Fellix is another matter. Castro will love you…till he finds out you have no money.
@Michael
It’s as if you are reading someone else’s postings. All these things you are ‘hearing’ is little of what I actually said. You filter it through your own ideas.
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Michael Devolin Said:
I didn’t say that the holocaust was accidental and as far as the Jews I said “all manifestations of cultures are accidental no matter who, no matter when.”
You dig? Whatever is chosen from the menu it still serves the function of food.
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Michael Devolin Said:
Nor did I say this, I said that they would have scapegoated anyone who was there – it just happened to be specifically an ethnicity called ‘Jews’ – if the Jews weren’t there it would have been someone else – whatever other minority was successful.
I was identifying the nature of fascism.
You have to understand what someone says in order to disagree with it.
So if you believe that the Holocaust was just about Jews then you don’t understand the Holocaust, the Holocaust was about humans.
And you do, you believe you are losing something , if you consider it was about humans instead of Jews. What do you lose? A sense of importance? That’s nothing to feel important about.
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And I specifically said what I say has nothing to whether others agree or disagree me I said I am the product of survivalist confrontation in my specific life experience nothing else. I specifically divorced myself from a group identification of ethnicity and yet this is the only thing you heard. Again you hear what isn’t said.
Nor did I say anything about Trotsky, nor did I say I expected a revolution from anyone. I just asked you which side you were on and if you recognize that the state is Stalinist, ie owned by a small group of economic fascists and we (North America) don’t have capitalism nor democracy. I am still not sure of your answer.
The elite have the capital and the capitalism, they also have the best democracy they can buy.
What does an anti-fascist do in the face of overwhelming repressive power? Nothing economically suicidal that’s for sure. Even talking to the wrong people can be bad for your career. But you have some freedom in private conversation.
Freedom starts with a single step. The first step is awareness. The elite stays in power through media lies and their backroom liaisons with the politicians.
Being aware and not being manipulated by their lies is a major step.
The second step is just say ‘no’ – to whatever you can… voting, TV, etc anything that involves you with the supporting the system.
It’s a simple process isn’t it? The elite select the politicians for us to vote for (and foolishly we vote without realizing we didn’t select them), they help them get elected with their money and their media. Then the politicos spend the next four years distracting and lying to us while they are making backroom deals with the elite and helping them change the laws to that they can become richer and exert more fascist economic power such as making workplaces more repressive.
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Then after their political careers are over the politicals get jobs working for the elite.
We aren’t in the loop.
No Democracy , no capitalism there.
Except for the system apologists and the ‘palace guard’, the fascist support class.
Their current function is to stop real system reform either through propaganda or direct power. eg condemn reformers as ‘commies’ or help pass laws to increase monopoly power etc etc.
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The ‘inner card’ is completely valid. We are all lied to constantly about how our society works, about who is who and our identities are manipulated so that we do things agaisnt our own interests. eg What is good for ‘Canada’ is almost never what is good for Canadians, it is what is good for the elite. And yet how many times are the public clubbed with the fake phrase ‘The Canadian Economy’ or fake adjective ‘Canadian’?
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Hmmm…actually the people you work for (you might say ‘Canada INC’). pay taxes to the Government, you don’t – it’s their money (that you don’t get to keep), you are the intermediary. The taxes and your income and your health care everything – is in the debit column of their books which they try to minimalize. As their power grows , they make it less and less and give you a less and less share in their profits. Yes, they are as rich as Kings and their purpose is to make sure you do not have enough prosperity to control your own life.
I commiserate. Are we really lucky to be alive? Is techno-assisted slavery a life? Is it worth trying to help human beings survive, especially when they prefer their own destructive process?
More wages will not come because nothing can force more wages from a fascist elite. In fact the more you help your company, the more powerful they will become and the more repressive they will become. The people need ownership of the businesses they work for – perhaps that is an answer- not to be a debit line in the books but to own the books.
Without capital , the people can have no capitalism.
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If you want to know how to oppose the elites, I give you an answer, it is not with money. The only way is to start another political party which will oppose their parties (IE both (in USA) or all three of their parties) – one that will work for the people and not for the elites and in the process somehow to wrest control of the media from them to the public domain or at least open to public inspection and control.
There you go, my digression here – simple solution – otherwise , I’m sorry no one in N. AM. has a future.
It’s sad.
And the connection with Islam here is that feeding us to Islam is their means of controlling and dis empowering us.
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If you want to reach out to Muslims, you’re on the wrong blog.
Yeah this is what I meant about inner. I never said “Jung’ . No, I’m not on the wrong blog I’m on the right blog. to oppose this obstinate idea.
There was just an article here on different kinds of Muslims in the US though the information was used in another intent.If you want a blog dedicated to hatred and blindness why bother to pundit about anything?
So OK this is the second kind of ‘inner’. And this is what I’m taking about. I would recommend reading ‘Son of Hamas’s to find out how the Shin Bet turned Mosab Yousef. Essentially they taught him to be human, by sharing with him.
No I suggested befriending human beings not muslims. Actually, never mind befriending , I might even say just find out about human beings and stop seeing humans as cartoons.This alone extends your power and knowledge of the world.
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So the last of what you said is not punditing – it is and emotional expression which limits growth . It’s something you can change if you want to.
Bigotry and anti-semitism is usually a disease of ignorance- by itself it is not much of a crime. Friendship is often a cure. Only when the individual commits to aggressive destructive acts does the motivation show evil. Practically all of Asia is racially prejudiced – it’s basically innocent.
Pride will have a fall.
Hating about one thing and extending it to others is rabble rousing.
What I said was “while at the same time being uncompromising with principles of freedom. This would go a long way to useful change – establishing relationships.Peace in one hand, war in the other – not war in one hand and intolerance in the other.”
This means that one does not have to compromise in any way in acting with those who have blood on their hands etc.
In fact waging friendship is a form of aggression -waging good instead of waging evil.
Going beyond hate does not mean in any way changing ideas of justice or waging war against evil. In fact it makes aggression much more ruthless when the emotion has been transcended.
The psychopath has the advantage of being emotionless – most evil is psychopathic, fascists simply don’t feel. Going beyond our emotions where we are cold but coldly driven gives us ‘feeling people’ even greater power equal to and more than the psychopath.. Being locked in such emotions makes us weaker. Hating is not important – killing is – or being friendly – in this warfare it is the same thing.
That’s the best I can explain it for now. It’s something I know from experience but difficult to explain.
Probably I have no time to continue this , you’ll have to catch me on another thread Michael.
for Yamit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ti_5GIP2nLQ
This is me with the beret at 2:41 asking the pro-Hamas protesters where their Canadian flags are. Hope Ted doesn’t mind me posting this. I don’t hide from anyone. I have a 12 gauge alarm system.
“My profile of you, is that you have an enemy within, not without.”
I thought we all had an “enemy within,” something the Rabbis call “the evil inclination” or Yetzer hara. Sure, I’ll admit to that. And I think I’ve confessed to the same to Dweller. I simply don’t agree with your argument that the Jews and the Holocaust were “accidental”. Being the son of survivors, with all due respect, does not give one the right to transmogrify veridical history. Norman Finkelstein is also the son of survivors. Hitler and the Nazis had it in for the Jews long before the war started. The total extermination of the Jews was a priority for them, even after they knew they had lost the war. You make it sound like the Nazis just happened to stumble upon the Jews as they were waging war.
And don’t talk to me about “elites” as though you’re the only one with your eyes open. I am stuck within an income bracket where if I work extra, they just take it out of me the following year. I seldom make it from one pay cheque to the next, and this with my wife and I and my oldest son working. You think I adore the government I pay taxes to? This is why I disagree with your outrageous and excoriative generalizations. And then you play the Jung card and tell me that I have an “enemy within”. Well yes I do: I want to kick the asses of everyone in Ottawa over their shoulders, Conservatives and Liberals alike. What do you want me to do? Start a revolution? just to please you? to measure up to what you think an everyday anti-fascist should walk and talk like? Are you going to pay for my lawyer and for keeping my family while I’m in jail? You sound just so ridiculously unctuous.
If you want to reach out to Muslims, you’re on the wrong blog. But before you travel to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, you might want to chat with Daniel Pearl’s media associates, the ones he retained before he was beheaded on video. I do not befriend anti-Semites, whether moderates or otherwise. Not going to happen. You want to help me overtake the elites? Send me some money, I’ll gladly accept it, and use it to pay my bills, the bills preventing me from fighting the elites full time. Otherwise, don’t accuse me of being insouciantly subservient to the government ruling over me, because I’m not. No more than any other hard working citizen writing to this blog. You can shove your Troskyism up your ass, as far as I’m concerned. It ain’t gonna work for me. Go preach to those Muslims you want me to befriend. Now there’s a bunch who are presently in the process of topling the elites. But don’t mention that you’re Jewish: might not be a good career move for you.
Michael Devolin Said:
Hmm.. it appears you just said exactly what I said you said.!!
I did not do your own thinking, I stated what are the logical consequences of your thinking.
You just exactly said WW2 would not have happened without the Nazi anti-Jewish hatred or by extension
..without the JEWS!!!!
In fact I don’t think you truly understood what I said, though I think some or many people will feel threatened about this without understanding why – they feel as if something is being taken from them.
What you are expressing is the only opposite from my POV which is divine purpose and Divine causality.
But actually in it’s less religious form or psychological form, that is a desire to make pain and suffering more meaningful than it is or perhaps to hold on to it. (Something akin to the Bettelheim Syndrome). So somehow the idea is to give it meaning when it fact it is really meaningless and senseless as all human evil is.
A child says ” I am the only one in the world that gets beaten by my dad, I am very special, the
world exists because of me’. The child doesn’t understand it’s not him, it’s not his fault , he just happened to be there. By accident. An accident of birth.
It’s the same thing.
My meaning of the Jews were accidental is the same as saying all manifestations of cultures are accidental no matter who, no matter when.
The process, the human dynamic is more important to understand than the specific cultures involved.
And what is my purpose here? To identify the enemy, what is the enemy – everyone who hates Jews? – because of the “intrinsic genetic hatred of Jews the human race has?!! (no genetic evidence for that).
The Nazis are gone so it’s all over, right?
No, the enemy is fascism. Fascism which exists for example as as a corollary of Islamic culture. Fascism which is a worldwide and ongoing ideological disease. A disease shich still must be defeated bot outside and inside. In other cultures and in our own ad in all our minds.
Fascism as an ideology was going to arise in Germany regardless of Jews – Jews were a convenient scapegoat,if not for them there would have been others. Every form of fascism has it’s scapegoats and most have their exterminations of those scapegoats.
People and culture act in certain dynamics – if we recognize the dynamic we know who they are.
People in the West are indoctrinated with unhealthy identifications. eg A healthy identification is when people are patriotic wen the country as a whole is at war for survival against an agressive fascism. And unhealthy identification is when people are manipulated to be nationalistic (like the Gazans or the Chicoms) in order to wage agressive war and in fact under these circumstances the identity is an illusion, they do not represent the interests of the whole population. In the Chicoms case to see the rabid nationalism fomented around public events is awesome and frightening.
Seems clear? But then we find the same dysfunctional identity manipulations at work on ordinary Canadians and Americans wherein inculcated identities in the masses do not represent the good of all but only elite groups.
Identity manipulation is the key method of creating a fascist support class.
The Chicom mass event (nationalistic concerts, New years) is mirrored in the west in such things as Olympic events which are turned to the same purpose.
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Having an opinion is not ‘calling’ someone something. It is a judgment which a rational perosn can deny or argue with.
To call a judgment an ‘insult’ is to go the same road the at Islamic repression goes -we can’t make judgments of them because they ‘feel insulted’.
Don’t anyone go down this road- it’s a dead end to growth and dialogue. A judgment is not an insult or ‘calling’ someone something. .
Michael Devolin Said:
Everything I have written is verifiable with realms of information and data.
The plans to exterminate the Poles were already drawn up. It was decided to wait until the Jews were finished so as to make the process smoother. So if the Jews (by accident of being there), commies, gypsies and Russians were not first, it would have been the Poles.
Ah, I see you don’t like being ‘profiled’. I hear that a lot. People love to compartmentalize and hide their natures. However, our natures are applicable to everything we do. All is one, one is all.
Well, Israel and the Israeli people are part of humanity and the world. I assumed this blog was about the continued existence of Israel in the world.
Specifically being self-centered, selfish and engaging in hysterical ethnic prejudice as many people here do, may perform some kind of psychological release but it is not very realistic and survival oriented.
I am a product of the Holocaust through Holocaust survivors. Not that I say I have any armies of Jews agreeing with me – only to say, how I approach the world with survival ism and confrontation was instilled in myself by them.
I fact I am nothing else, I am not from ordinary socialization, all I learned is from them.
Maybe I am their monster – their Holostein.
So libraries are superficial in comparison to the interpersonal learning I have had though not contradictory in any way.
My profile of you, is that you have an enemy within, not without. Being on this site doesn’t seem to encourage self-growth and self-challenge to change emotionally.
It’s better for the people here to contact Muslims in a friendly manner , while at the same time being uncompromising with principles of freedom. This would go a long way to useful change – establishing relationships.
Peace in one hand, war in the other – not war in one hand and intolerance in the other.
Michael Devolin Said:
OI didn’t mention you, but are you? Do you support the Power elite and their economic fascism of the peoples of North America or do you oppose them and hope to establish a Democratic and capitalist nation in place of the Stalinist system we have?
IE Are you part of the Stalinist Loyalists of the Western World (including the Israeli elite) or are you for the people?
Maybe you are a good guy in my book.. I wouldn’t know.
Up to you…
It does matter in regards to the Israeli elite. In effect Israel a survivalist country in a hostile situation is being defeated from within form the elites which are all aligned with the Stalinism of al the Western elites.
The tow forces are, surrealism and Western Stalinism are incompatible.
This is the source of all Israel’s defensive problem.
You see the evil seed of self-defeating support of fascism is deeply socialized in the population, and the people need to examine themselves and reject fascist ideologies of all stripes.
So the supreme force of change for Israeli and the West definitely in the world of personality analysis in inner reflection and inner change for almost everyone.
“The accident of the Jews being in Europe saved the Poles else they would have been the ‘chosen’ people’ chosen first for extermination by the Nazis.”
You need to find a library somewhere and sit down and read. Look up the word “sciolism” when you get there.
“The logical extension of your idea is that WW2 could not have happened without the Jews…”
No, WW2 and the Holocaust WOULD not have happened without Adolf Hitler and the Nazis and their anti-Jewish hatred. I will do my own thinking, thankyou very much.
“But I hear what you are saying – no Jews there , so it didn’t matter.”
Again, I will do my own thinking, thankyou very much. This is a Jewish blog about Israel and the Jewish people. Therefore it would impertinent of me to profile other peoples unless those peoples had some measure of relevance regarding Israel and the Jewish people.
“Everyone seems to love fascism – only fighting for freedom so they can be in turn fascists.”
Are you accusing me of being a fascist? I hope you never have the opportunity to “give guidance to the people.” You remind me of Imam Chaudry.
Forgot to add to illustrate my point:
“The accident of the Jews being in Europe saved the Poles else they would have been the ‘chosen’ people’ chosen first for extermination by the Nazis.”
Michael Devolin Said:
The logical extension of your idea is that WW2 could not have happened without the Jews, therefore Jews caused WW2. That is an overblown sense of self-importance.
17 million died in the WW2 holocaust not just six million.
I would say what is ‘total’ in that opinion is ethnic and/or religious bigotry. But the more general and gentler explanation of what is ‘total’ is ‘total funnel vision’- the common mis-education of humanity is tunnel identification- or as an easier concept to understand – ‘selfishness’.
Add to that for example Russian Civilians in WW2 – 16 million.
Lets look at the top five genocides in 20th Century
1. Mao Tsedong: 27 – 73 million Chinese deaths (1945 – 1976)
2. Joseph Stalin: 4 – 60 million political purges (1922 – 1953)
3. Hitler: 15 – 50 million civilian deaths by democide and by deaths in concentration camps
4. Hideki Tojo: 6 million – 30 million deaths of Chinese civilians during World War II
5. Pol Pot: – 3 million deaths in Cambodia in the 1970s
Or we could go back and look at 60 million killed by the Mongols.
But I hear what you are saying – no Jews there , so it didn’t matter.
Let’s make it all about only the Jews instead of understanding a universal human condition.
Now in Libya – 100 thousand dead, of which 50 thousand are missing.
Syria is roughly the same but is stil ongoing and the figure will be higher.
That’s a majority of which were men , women and children not involved in fighting.
Oh but , we all know they were Islamic Al Queda just the same as we know that every citizen of America and Canada belong to organized criminal gangs like ‘Mongol Nation’ or ‘Hell’s Angels’.
If one saw a list of gangs, territory and membership one certainly would think that on paper, North America is under Gang Domination.
We can say the entire population of North America empowers them by not resisting so they are obviously all gang-bangers.
Same logic.
The war Hezbollah against Israel, Hamas against Israel , Assad against his people, Saddam against his people, Gaddafi against his people are all the same:
Freedom versus Fascism.
Wherever one group supports the oppression, murder and slavery of the majority in favour of supporting an elite – that is fascism.
Most North Americans have embraced fascist ideologies. It is sad and pahtetic.
In all different kinds of forums they are all fighting the same fight but they are blind to understanding it instead being corrupted by the propagandas of fascists – of Religious Fascists or Ethnic-Fascists or Islamo-fascists or Capital-fascists.
Everyone seems to love fascism – only fighting for freedom so they can be in turn fascists.
It’s sad.
No country or educational system in the world will support Freedom over Fascism or give guidance for the people – there is no force guide people towards what is good and oppose what is bad because every country and political leadership is corrupted by some form of selfishness or fascism.
A new movement must arise to save all of us from the world’s fascism both internal and external.
@ Canadian Otter:
This is very serious and a massive violation of our human rights. Info given on Americans, Canadians and other Westerners to foreign governments. These governments could be governments that are VERY hostile to Americans and other non-Muslims.
These are acts of a ruthless, anti human rights, freedom-hating One WORLD government.
“Muslims are incidental just as Jews were accidental in the Holocaust”
Total horseshit.
It is unforgivable that Western leaders regularly finance, arm, and sometimes even wage war for the most radical, savage Muslim terrorists.
How far and how low Western civilization has fallen under these immoral Western leaders.
What is Syria?
What is the road to Damascus?
It is the road to Human Freedom.
It is the Warsaw Uprising.
It is the Black Forest Partisans.
It is the war against Hitler and the Nazis
It is the war against Tojo.
It is the American and French Revolution.
It is the war of Freedom versus Fascism.
It has nothing in it’s raw form to do with with Muslims.
Muslims are incidental just as Jews were accidental in the Holocaust – a specificity versus the generality.
In reality The Holocaust took Austrians, Germans, Gypsies and many others
and ..all the Poles were next – the plans were already drawn up.
After that it was going to be the French.
And now it is going to be the American Poor and the American lower class.
Understand the process – it is Freedom versus Fascism.
But most importantly understand the the next one will be America in Twenty to Fifty years.
And it won’t be about or concerning Muslims – it will be a revolt against fascism no less serious than Syria and the elite will use artillery, air power, chemical and biological weapons on Americans.
Now is the time to decide whose side will you be on.
Will you sell your souls for convenience like so many others?
Like the German population under the Nazis?
You have been told. The seed has been planted, the idea has entered your mind. You are now responsible for what you decide.
You have been warned. Look for the signs, the winds of freedom are blowing. If the hurricane takes you, it is your own fault.
It’s coming , it cannot be avoided. everything that happens and has happened in Libya and America is going to happen in America.
Prepare yourselves.
Put aside your bigotry and ethnic hated and see the enemy for who and what it really is.
Freedom versus Fascism.
View From Iran:
Who Lost Libya, Who Lost Syria, Who Lost Egypt? — Al Qaeda and the Harbingers of Obamagate
And the global STASI is here – Attorney General Secretly Granted Ability to Develop and Store Dossiers on Innocent Americans – The changes granted by AG Holder would also allow databases containing information about U.S. citizens to be shared with foreign governments for their own analysis. A former senior White House official told the Journal that the new changes were “breathtaking in scope.” Drudge Report and http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/12/gov-dossiers-on-us-citizens/
Canada-U.S. Border Deal Allows America To Share Data With Third Countries – Canada will soon begin sharing biometric information and other data about visa applicants with the United States — which then may provide it to third countries under a newly signed treaty.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/12/13/canada-us-border-deal_n_2294478.html?utm_hp_ref=canada-politics
Sorry this is way off topic, but the tragedy at the Connecticut school will be misused by the present US administration to disarm citizens.
Here is an article you may have not heard about because of deliberate media and authorities blackout. While the media was covering the Connecticut tragedy, another gunman was stopped at an Oregon mall by an ARMED CITIZEN. Lives were certainly saved in this case. http://www.examiner.com/article/media-blackout-oregon-mall-shooter-was-stopped-by-an-armed-citizen
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From the world of the weird: the father of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza, Peter Lanza, was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. The father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO. According to the link at FICO, Robert Holmes was a ‘Fraud Scientist’. http://www.dailypaul.com/266543/2-mass-shootings-connected-to-libor-scandal
“He who rolls a stone, it shall return upon him.”
POETIC JUSTICE IN ARAB SPRING – Liberal Egyptians complain that Western media does not report on Islamist brutality against THEM.
Not long ago those same Egyptians were demonizing Israel and defending the Palestinians’ right to murder Jews – and found Western media biased reports that played down Arab violence against Jews JUST FINE.