By Gideon Levy, HAARETZ | Oct. 23, 2012 |
Most of the Jewish public in Israel supports the establishment of an apartheid regime in Israel if it formally annexes the West Bank.
A majority also explicitly favors discrimination against the state’s Arab citizens, a survey shows.
The survey, conducted by Dialog on the eve of Rosh Hashanah, exposes anti-Arab, ultra-nationalist views espoused by a majority of Israeli Jews. The survey was commissioned by the Yisraela Goldblum Fund and is based on a sample of 503 interviewees.
The questions were written by a group of academia-based peace and civil rights activists. Dialog is headed by Tel Aviv University Prof. Camil Fuchs.
The majority of the Jewish public, 59 percent, wants preference for Jews over Arabs in admission to jobs in government ministries. Almost half the Jews, 49 percent, want the state to treat Jewish citizens better than Arab ones; 42 percent don’t want to live in the same building with Arabs and 42 percent don’t want their children in the same class with Arab children.
A third of the Jewish public wants a law barring Israeli Arabs from voting for the Knesset and a large majority of 69 percent objects to giving 2.5 million Palestinians the right to vote if Israel annexes the West Bank.
A sweeping 74 percent majority is in favor of separate roads for Israelis and Palestinians in the West Bank. A quarter – 24 percent – believe separate roads are “a good situation” and 50 percent believe they are “a necessary situation.”
Almost half – 47 percent – want part of Israel’s Arab population to be transferred to the Palestinian Authority and 36 percent support transferring some of the Arab towns from Israel to the PA, in exchange for keeping some of the West Bank settlements.
Although the territories have not been annexed, most of the Jewish public (58 percent ) already believes Israel practices apartheid against Arabs. Only 31 percent think such a system is not in force here. Over a third (38 percent ) of the Jewish public wants Israel to annex the territories with settlements on them, while 48 percent object.
The survey distinguishes among the various communities in Israeli society – secular, observant, religious, ultra-Orthodox and former Soviet immigrants. The ultra-Orthodox, in contrast to those who described themselves as religious or observant, hold the most extreme positions against the Palestinians. An overwhelming majority (83 percent ) of Haredim are in favor of segregated roads and 71 percent are in favor of transfer.
The ultra-Orthodox are also the most anti-Arab group – 70 percent of them support legally barring Israeli Arabs from voting, 82 percent support preferential treatment from the state toward Jews, and 95 percent are in favor of discrimination against Arabs in admission to workplaces.
The group classifying itself as religious is the second most anti-Arab. New immigrants from former Soviet states are closer in their views of the Palestinians to secular Israelis, and are far less radical than the religious and Haredi groups. However, the number of people who answered “don’t know” in the “Russian” community was higher than in any other.
The Russians register the highest rate of satisfaction with life in Israel (77 percent ) and the secular Israelis the lowest – only 63 percent. On average, 69 percent of Israelis are satisfied with life in Israel.
Secular Israelis appear to be the least racist – 68 percent of them would not mind having Arab neighbors in their apartment building, 73 percent would not mind Arab students in their children’s class and 50 percent believe Arabs should not be discriminated against in admission to workplaces.
The survey indicates that a third to half of Jewish Israelis want to live in a state that practices formal, open discrimination against its Arab citizens. An even larger majority wants to live in an apartheid state if Israel annexes the territories.
The survey conductors say perhaps the term “apartheid” was not clear enough to some interviewees. However, the interviewees did not object strongly to describing Israel’s character as “apartheid” already today, without annexing the territories. Only 31 percent objected to calling Israel an “apartheid state” and said “there’s no apartheid at all.”
In contrast, 39 percent believe apartheid is practiced “in a few fields”; 19 percent believe “there’s apartheid in many fields” and 11 percent do not know.
The “Russians,” as the survey calls them, display the most objection to classifying their new country as an apartheid state. A third of them – 35 percent – believe Israel practices no apartheid at all, compared to 28 percent of the secular and ultra-Orthodox communities, 27 percent of the religious and 30 percent of the observant Jews who hold that view. Altogether, 58 percent of all the groups believe Israel practices apartheid “in a few fields” or “in many fields,” while 11 percent don’t know.
Finally, the interviewees were asked whether “a famous American author [who] is boycotting Israel, claiming it practices apartheid” should be boycotted or invited to Israel. About half (48 percent ) said she should be invited to Israel, 28 percent suggest no response and only 15 percent call to boycott her.
@ yamit82:
Agree in all points. The arabs are cowards and freeloaders. They live from charity and from exploiting the Israelis. They use the money they get from the US and the EU to build tunnels. They do not pay taxes on the merchandise they bring through the tunnels. They are not good workers neither good businessmen. Just moochers and tieves.
Surveys can be manipulated to show just about anything depending on where the survey’s authors are coming from, who they engage to complete the surveys, where they are solicited from,how many individuals were surveyed and how were the questions phrased. Although we are not provided this critical information, a hint is provided by the limited information we do have. To wit, ” The questions were written by a group of academia-based peace and civil rights activists. Dialog is headed by Tel Aviv University Prof. Camil Fuchs.” Additionally, 503 individuals can hardly be seen as representing a majority of over 6 million Jewish Israelis.
There is also a fair bit of dis-ingenuousness to the story. I suggest that the “secularists” from Tel Aviv return their property to their hypothesized peace partners and live with their new neighbors in peace and harmony, rather than their attempting to dictate to the residents of Yehuda and Shomron to engage in that fanciful and downright foolish course of action. Funny but i don’t hear anyone complaining about Saudi Arabia being an Apartheid state even though they won’t even allow a Jew to enter. Or Peace Partner Abbas who has declared on many occasions (albeit in Arabic) that no Jew will be allowed to live in “Palestine.” No, the left-wing extremists don’t see that as a problem. If the self-defeating Arabs hadn’t been resolutely and intrinsically anti-Israel to begin with, this conversation would not have happened.
CuriousAmerican Said:
We can!!!!
Who cares we already have the approrium of the worls, Big deal.
Doesn’t scare us and we can defend against the slanderous accusations. Even if we fail it won’t be becuse the accusations are true it will be because of you gentiles anti Jewish willingness to ignore the facts and truth and believe the lies….. So what else is new?
I love your last argument.. Reverse psychology. We are no better than you goyim but neither are we worse. That you brought up this argument and attempt to use it against us maybe it has some merit that we Jews are better than you goyim. It won’t take much convincing me that we are better especially when we have those like you as opponents. You must be worried or really scared we will do it and get away with it. 🙂
No it’s not cheaper than war. I have explained to you in the past many reasons it won’t work which you ignore. I wonder why? Light unto the Nations? You have no idea what that means. I understand A couple of hundred Nukes going off at the same time will light up the nations. The Jews can Light up the world with a hundreds of millions of candles with the push a few red buttons.
Ted Belman Said:
From the Book “They Must Go”:
http://www.jewish-e-library.net/Works/Kahane/They.Must.Go/TMG.Chapter10/TMG.Chapter10-034.Page-260.html
http://www.jewish-e-library.net/Works/Kahane/They.Must.Go/TMG.Chapter10/TMG.Chapter10-035.Page-261.html
Shy Guy Said:
I second that!!!
@ Shy Guy:
The people who talk about apartheid have fallen into the enemies trap. Let us have pure democracy and forget the right to security of life and limb in the only Jewish country.
They do not talk about the apartheid in Lebanon (Palestinians have no vote, citizenship, freedom of movement, right to do more than a limited amount of jobs and right to live in more than the camps).
So how do you keep an enemy population from destroying you while trying to curry favor with confused souls like Gideon Levy and our enemies? Basically you can NOT do both.
Buzz of the Orient Said:
Goodbye suicide. Hello normalcy.
@ Buzz of the Orient:My first thought was not to post that article as it presented Jews in Israel in a bad light. But then I began to see it in a different light and wrote an article on “integration v separation”. I came out in favour of separation, at least for Israel. I hope to post it later today.
I received an email from Mike Diamond on a related issue namely “tolerance of intolerance” and the need for our values to be maintained as more important than “democracy”. That too, I will publish.
Goodbye Democracy. Hello Apartheid. Validate the Palestinian lying propaganda. Support BDS. Go ahead – DON’T make my day. (Shaking my head)
In my mind this would be an issue (not letting them vote) if the Palestinians were not hell bent on destroying Israel. They are not interested in voting in Israel or being citizens. Proof is in the experience of East Jerusalem, how many have taken Israeli citizenship? Not many!
So how do you keep an enemy population from destroying you while trying to curry favor with confused souls like Gideon Levy and our enemies? Basically you can NOT do both.
So the trick is to find a method that provides security for Israel while not becoming as bad as our enemy who would literally throw us in the sea if they could. Voluntary emigration is going to be difficult to achieve (great in theory)
So letting the Arabs run their own cities in Area A is the next best thing while working either in an economic union with Israel or Jordan so they can actualy function. Israel would maintain all security in all of Judah and Samaria. Israel annexes all of C and what they need of Area B.
At least we allow Arabs to live in Israel with greater rights and freedoms then they have in any Arab country. Why not get rid of the Arabs altogether and extend them the same courtesy those Arab countries showed it’s Jews. Then no one can accuse Israel of apartheid.
Arabs in Jerusalem don’t vote.
And they don’t want to be Israeli citizens.
Gideon Levy thinks they along with the Arab residents of Judea and Samaria should be forced to become Israelis. Fortunately – most Israelis disagree with him.
Well, I guess no one want Haneen Zoabi as PM.
You want the land.
But you do not want the people on it.
You cannot ethnically cleanse them.
Not without earning the opprobrium of the world.
You cannot then deny them the vote without being called Apartheid
and you will not have an adequate reply
Since if you annex the land, and deny them the vote,
it will look like Apartheid
If you do ethnically cleanse the Palestinians anyway,
you can not claim to be better than us goyim
That last would really hurt.
YOU KNOW MY RECOMMENDATION!
It is cheaper than war.
And you can still get to call yourselves a light unto the nations.
You get to keep the land and your pride.
A bargain at any price.
Where was the survey conducted?
Who were questioned?
Who did the questioning?
How were the questions worded?
How were the questions asked?
Surveys can too often be written, asked and slanted to provide desired answers.
Mickey