Dozens of tunnels were hidden behind furniture, washing machines; IDF looking for volunteers to help search for kidnapped teens.
The IDF is seeking to expand the number of people searching for three teens kidnapped ten days ago by Hamas terrorists – and is turning to volunteers who are familiar with the Hevron area for help. The army hopes that the volunteers will help in the discovery of clues that could indicate where the teens are.
In the meantime, the army said, the intense searches in the Hevron area have yielded a great deal of information and new discoveries – such as the discovery of a network of tunnels in the Hevron area that the IDF did not know existed.
In an e-mail message sent out to organizations that sponsor hikes and outdoor activities in the Hevron area, officials wrote that “now is the time for action. We need volunteers to help find our missing boys.” The message stresses that those who answer the call are responsible for their own personal safety.
What security officials are looking for are former soldiers and experienced hikers who have spent a lot of time in the southern Hevron Hills area, who will be able to examine areas and indicate whether recent geographical changes have taken place – such as the digging of an underground bunker, where the kidnapped Israeli teens, Eyal Yifrah (19), Naftali Frenkel (16), and Gilad Sha’ar (16), might be held by Hamas kidnappers.
Soldiers have been working from sunup to sundown, and even later, security officials said, as they seek clues to the whereabouts of the teens. Soldiers have been investigating caves, wells, holes, and homes in the search for hints. An IDF spokesperson said that soldiers were combing the area where they suspect the teens are being held “meter by meter. We are literally turning over every stone.”
Among the things soldiers have already found, officials said, is a network of dozens of underground tunnels that were hidden behind furniture, washing machines, and the like. It is not clear what the purpose of the tunnels are, and IDF soldiers are exploring them to see if they lead into the area of the 1948 armistice lines, used for smuggling illegal Palestinians into Israel.
In addition, the army said, soldiers have discovered several bomb-making facilities in private homes, throughout Judea and Samaria, and especially in Hevron.
BethesdaDog Said:
I don’t know if Bigfoot people are nuts. On “Finding Bigfoot”, people will gather to describe their experiences and some have the ” ring of truth”. I remember one Amer. Indian boy, from a remote area of southern Alaska, who was returned to the place of his sighting. The look of fear on his face, when he retold his experience could not be faked.
BethesdaDog Said:
Yes, lots and lots. Thanks for the info on doc Potus . Yes I know about such support groups, but no close and sometimes they turn into pity parties. I walk every day I can and enjoy the flowers and animals along the road.
dweller Said:
dweller Said:
dweller Said:
My right leg is 1/2in shorter, the nerves don’t transmit and the leg collapses or twist and over I go. I call it tipping, just a joke. Usually I can right myself, but when I can’t boom. I guess it’s a balance issue.
@ dweller:
Have you ever tried physical therapy for the tendency to fall? I used to work with a physical therapist who, before I knew her, used to work with adults who had suffered polio when young. I’m not sure exactly what she did, but she was a terrific PT.
I was thinking about how polio was such a frightening thought for our parents back in the ’50’s. Every summer was scary. Until Dr. Salk came along. I remember getting three shots. Later, in high school, I think I got the sugar cube with the oral vaccine.
I saw a story the other day about how they’re trying to immunize Syrian children–perhaps they have an epidemic. I wonder if it another case of Muslim Arabs benefiting from a Jewish invention.
Did you know that the great Drifters song, “Save the Last Dance for Me,” came about because of polio?
Doc Pomus (real name Jerome Felder, brother of Raoul Felder) was a songwriter. He wrote it for his wife who was dancing with everybody at their wedding party. Of course, all he could do was sit and watch, but he was the one with whom she would go home.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Pomus
From there, you can click through to the link about the song itself. I believe there is an organization for those who have suffered from polio which has adopted this as their anthem.
@ honeybee:
No bigfoots….yet.
There’s a professor at Idaho State University who apparently has devoted his career to proving the existence of Bigfoot. I’ve seen some documentaries where he’s quoted extensively. I happen to have an internet friend on the faculty–told me the guy’s nuts.
@ honeybee:
Weakened the muscles?
Weakened the bones?
Weakened the nerves?
Which?
It’s not a balance issue?
yamit82 Said:
Southern ain’t the only ones: http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/brooklyn-muslim-cabbie-wanted-to-kill-daughter-for-marrying-wrong-cousin/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=brooklyn-muslim-cabbie-wanted-to-kill-daughter-for-marrying-wrong-cousin
yamit82 Said:
What did you study?? I never went to graduate school, I was bored with school and wanted to work. Taught 1st grade in a town of 250 people in an 8 room school house. Then came a hurricane. I evacuated and met Tx in the Red Cross shelter. The day after I met him he asked to marry him [I thought he was nuts] after that it was just a matter of wearing down until I said yes. Perhaps I should have snuck out on him, but I fell in love with all those little 1st graders and couldn’t leave.
@ yamit82:
the program I watched was concerning the Israeli attack on the Syrian nuclear facilities and the “take out” of a Syrian General . A combination of clever intelligence and raw courage.
yamit82 Said:
Soccer puts TX to sleep.
yamit82 Said:
Wise idea, sorry your ill again, but you have rather been burning the candle at both ends. I did not fall into a hole, but fell sitting on a stool reaching back in to some selves to throw away stuff and tipped over. It was the stool I sat on as a child to watch my father shave. He would pick me and sit me down hard, and instruct me to hold onto the edges. I failed to heed his instructions
It was smart to leave your girl. Missed out on all the accusations and recriminations. Israel and the Jewish people have always been your one true enduring love.
@ honeybee:
Watched most of the World Cup game USA against the Krauts.
America should stick to football it’s the only sport popular in America that foreigners have not taken it over,like baseball. American football is now the only popular sport not influenced or dominated by non Americans.
USA still made it through to the next round but they were reallly helpless against one of the better European Teams.
Belgium should eat Team America for breakfast but in sport anything is possible.
honeybee Said:
Naw I met her in college after finished with USArmy.
Never asked for it and she never offered to return it. No matter, only money, easy come easy go. Ran into her a few years after and actually moved in with her for about 10 days,(long story), she was working full time and I was in Grad school. One morning after she left for work I gathered my stuff put it in my car and left. No goodbys no note no nothing and have never seen or heard from her since. Actually I haven’t thought about her in many years, the discussion on Presbyterians jiggled some old and buried memories.
Feel better HB. Don’t fall into any gopher holes around the house.
I woke up from a 24 hr fever. My chronic infection is back and I’m back on antibiotics. Keep changing them so the dam bugs won’t develop an immunity to them.
I feel pretty good now. Fed the cats, took out the trash and am still deciding what to eat. I think I’ll go with the SOUP!!!! 😉
yamit82 Said:
Keep it in the family says TX, no outsiders. Later I have some questions for you about Israel’s raid on Syrian Nuclear Facilities. Watched a TV program on the subject, ” Black Opps” and man called Dagon, the unit, the Hammers, and Kiddon. As exciting as a movie.
Now I must rest in order to refrain from tipping over again.
@ honeybee:
I agree with Tx.
yamit82 Said:
TX says, lack of dependable transportation”
dweller Said:
The polio I suffered as a child as weaken my legs and I tend to tip over. No I don’t drink.
@ dweller:
I think you friend has the correct idea. I have one side of my home that is all window and I keep my plants in the light, the deer come up and attempt to eat my plants. They always seem so surprise when they see me move. They are always on the road [ I am on a dirt road] they are not afraid of cars, but stop the car and get out and they run in terror. TX keeps a small cement lined water pond for the animals. Water, can at time be hard to come by. One evening he was cleaning the pond [ the birds make a mess] when he heard noises . Across the road and against the fence he saw six deer waiting patiently for him to finish . When was done he walked toward the house, the deer jumped the fence and enjoyed the fresh cool. water. I don’t see the deer as rats to me they are neighbors.
@ honeybee:
What’re these falls about?
@ BethesdaDog:
Same in No. California. Often see them coming right up to the edge of the freeway (think: “turnpike”). Out this way, they’re frequently referred to as “large, antlered rats.” A lot of ’em get killed when they venture forth that way. Dunno what it is that brings them to the noise & the traffic; you’d think such thngs would scare ’em away.
A friend of mine speculated some yrs ago that there might be something about the tender shoots of grass immediately adjacent the freeway which might be somehow more appealing to their taste buds because of the extra CO2 given off in engine exhausts.
Beats hell outa me.
yamit82 Said:
Curious minds want to know, was she the reason you joined the military and did you get the ring returned. I am stuck in the house. Fell again yesterday and now on pain killers during the day and am given to flights of fancy.
@ yamit82:
TX says it depends on the type of soup. TX says he likes to eave good memories, the kind that last for decades. As long as they don’t show up at his door.
@ BethesdaDog:
Any Bigfoots, my favorite TV show, “Finding Bigfoot”.
yamit82 Said:
not enough rangin round ??????????
yamit82 Said:
They ride the range way out West.
Virginia, Remember it well. I was stationed outside of Newport News and not far from Norfolk.
Those pious christian Virginians used to say “We don’t drink, We don’t smoke, Norfolk”. I think we can chalk up the peculiar behavior of Virginians and most native Southerners to Inbreeding.
@ dweller:
I have been aware of Webb’s writings for some time–I’ve read some of his shorter articles, but haven’t gotten around to the book. Yes, he spoke of the rather spartan existence growing up in Virginia hill country, and the military propensities of his people. That is one reason there are so many military academies in Virginia down through the Carolinas. VMI, Citadel, and others, I suppose. Either from his readings, or others, I’ve learned that their culture is one of loyalty, chivalry and a kind of fierceness. The last might be considered controversial, I don’t remember where I read it. The interesting thing, though, is that (I think) while the Scots-Irish influence might have predominated in other parts of the south, the culture of Virginia was different–it was founded by English Cavaliers. The book I mentioned in another post, was Albion’s Seed, by David Hackett Fisher. He speaks of the four British folkways that settled America, including the Puritans, the Quakers, the Cavaliers and the Border English (or Scots-Irish). I don’t know how accurate the wikipedia is, but I think it lays out the paradigm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion's_Seed
@ honeybee:
I live in suburbs of Washington, DC, in Rockville, some call North Bethesda. We see dear all the time. This is not country. It is very busy and congested with mixed commercial and suburbs. Frequently see deer here standing right next to a busy road of traffic. This is not country. One night, a couple of months ago, I saw a dead young deer lying half in the street, half on the curb. I thought I saw a shadowy creature running away, with a bushy tail pointed up. Too big to be a fox, I suspect it was a coyote. The National Institutes of Health campus a few miles south had a black bear in a tree the other day. The same day, there was another black bear in the Rockville Town Center a few miles north. This is all built-up suburbs! Shopping centers, high rise office bldgs and apartments, mixed use, strip malls, tons of cars and traffic. I talked to a van driver who said she sees deer all over D.C. except in the very urbanized downtown area, where all the office buildings are.
honeybee Said:
Not yet Darlin!!! Not yet…
honeybee Said:
Depends?
What is considered inexperienced in TEXAS????
honeybee Said:
Probably you are right. Just parental rebellion.
Who cares??? 😛
yamit82 Said:
So now you take the soup ??????????????,Sugar Pie
yamit82 Said:
Maybe you were just terribly inexperienced.
@ dweller:
Thank-you for the information. I have sent it to several friends. xxooo
@ yamit82:
So you were the grateful recipient of a daughter’s rebellion. I wonder if their memories are as positive.
@ yamit82:
So you were the grateful recipient of “teen-age rebellion”. I wonder what they remember? I was a rebellious daughter, I was expected to marry Jewish. TX could have been a “sweet memory” also, but he was not a man with whom to trifle.
@ the phoenix:
Yes, why. I should have also mentioned that the History Channel has made many very informative videos on the American Revolution in the Southern States. If you have ever travelled through the swamp lands of S. Carolina you can realized what a fight it must have been.
I have two doe and their fawns hanging out here. Saw the fawn a couple of days ago . Usually they are hidden.
@ dweller:
I just read that Eli Wallach dies. I loved to watch him.
@ honeybee:
The Jim Webb whom Dog was referring to [above] is the AUTHOR of the book you cite.
The actual title is Born Fighting: How the Scots-Irish Shaped America.
@ honeybee:
Re post #8
Was that really you, hb?
honeybee Said:
Not so!!!! Way back … I was engaged to one and she never disappointed neither did her best friend whose last name happened to be Rappaport. Father born Jewish, mother Presbyterian and she was very Presbyterian. Funny they didn’t approve of their daughter going out with a Jew. 🙂
My fiancee had a German or possibly Jewish last name but her parents were real Nazis at least as far as Jews were concerned. Both Girls as far as “F—king” was concerned never disappointed. 😀
@ BethesdaDog:
The Gibson movie is ” The Patriot”. Trey Gowdy is Scotch-Irish. Listen to bluegrass Gospel music to get a taste of their beliefs, especially Ralph Stanley.
@ BethesdaDog:
The Presbyterians were once a very powerful political force in England. You might Google the English civil war, they were the Roundheads. They were followers of both John Knox and John Calvin. You could say they were the Hasidic of the Protestant movement with a great deal of unbending Scotch toughness thrown in to the mix. An uncompromising religion.
Now, however they have, as you said been overtaken by progressives and the more conservative of their members have joined the more fundamentalist Christian sects.
I would suggest you read the book, ” Born to Fight, the Story of the Scotch-Irish in the United States”. The American Revolution was a lost cause until the Scottish Clans in the Carolinas took up the cause. Mel Gibson made a rather good movie on the subject. I forget the name of the movie. Yes, I know Mel Gibson, but he does make good movies.
In Texas the Scotch-Irish were the adversaries of the Mexican, German and Amer-Indians and for many years made life difficult, if not perilous for these groups.
@ BethesdaDog:
I just went back and did some reading on Presbyterianism and the Scotch (or “Scots”)-Irish. Originally, those who settled the United States from northern Ireland, and who were not Catholic, were mostly, but not entirely, Presbyterian. I believe I knew that, but I now associate the Scots-Irish sectors of the U.S. with more fundamentalist churches, like the Baptist and Methodist. Actually, there are a lot of Scots-Irish descendants in western Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and down through the south into Texas. I suppose the Presbyterians you know are descended from the original Scots-Irish but did not adopt new religions. Acording to the wiki article, when the Scots-Irish moved into the hill country of North Carolina, the Presbyterian Church, which had strict educational requirements for ministers, could not service those outlying communities. That’s why the Baptists and Methodists made inroads. Jim Webb has written about the Scots-Irish. I believe the book Albion’s Seed discusses the Scots-Irish in detail. The author of that book is a Brandeis professor. He is apparently very good as an historian, but very misguided, to say the least, on Middle Eastern politics. I think he was the one who brought Jimmy Carter to Brandeis. I can’t remember his name, right now.
@ honeybee:
How so? I am sure I know a lot of Pesbyterians, I just don’t they are Presbyterians. The denominiation, like many mainline Protestant denominations, is said to be shrinking. They have lost numbers, in part, among their more conservative members, because of the “progressive” positions they have taken. I was surprised to see that they PCUSA which passed the resolution only represents about 1.8 million persons. I’d like to know more about your perception of Presbyterians.
jerrylaury Said:
As a person familiar with Presbyterians I advise against that course of action. It would be a disappointment indeed.
Ze’ev Jabotskinsy would have said let the United Presbyterians go to hell. If he were alive today he would say F—k them and the rest of the antisemites in this world.
jerrylaury Said:
But that would upset the United Presbyterians !!!!!!!!!!!
Instead of all this searching why not do the simplest thing to bring the boys back? Simply turn off the electricty and water to the Arab barbarians until the boys are returned.
Come on people!
The General Security Services of Israel AKA SHABAK, is too busy persecuting Jews and fabricating “price tag” plots and have no time to find about them silly tunnels…
Lets go back to sleep!