Peloni: More threats to manipulate Bibi into accepting American demands.
David Wurmser’s response to the Axios report: “Recognition violates the Oslo Accords & international law. If Oslo is off, then far-reaching implications result: terminating the PA, removing the PLO’s waiver as a designated terror group, terminating funding and loan channels to the PA, etc. If Oslo is on, then unilateral moves that lack Israeli approval to change the status of the PA are forbidden. Frankly, and more importantly, it violates the 1922 Mandate as well. There is no legal authority for the U.S. and IK to determine sovereignty without the mandatory successor, Israel’s approving. Simply, the U.S. and UK cannot have it both ways. Either the Oslo Accords are trashed or they are not.”
Barak Ravid, Axios January 31, 2024
Secretary of State Tony Blinken asked the State Department to conduct a review and present policy options on possible U.S. and international recognition of a Palestinian state after the war in Gaza, two U.S. officials briefed on the issue told Axios.
Why it matters: While U.S. officials say there has been no policy change, the fact the State Department is even considering such options signals a shift in thinking within the Biden administration on possible Palestinian statehood recognition, which is highly sensitive both internationally and domestically.
- For decades, U.S. policy has been to oppose the recognition of Palestine as a state both bilaterally and in UN institutions and to stress Palestinian statehood should only be achieved through direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.
Yes but: Efforts to find a diplomatic way out of the war in Gaza has opened the door for rethinking a lot of old U.S. paradigms and policies, a senior U.S. official said.
- The Biden administration is linking possible normalization between Israel and Saudi Arabia to the creation of a pathway for the establishment of a Palestinian state as part of its post-war strategy. This initiative is based on the administration’s efforts prior to Oct. 7 to negotiate a mega-deal with Saudi Arabia that included a peace agreement between the kingdom and Israel.
- Saudi officials have publicly and privately made clear since Oct. 7 that any potential normalization agreement with Israel would be conditioned on the creation of an “irrevocable” pathway towards a Palestinian state.
- Some inside the Biden administration are now thinking recognition of a Palestinian state should possibly be the first step in negotiations to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict instead of the last, the senior U.S. official said.
There are several options for U.S. action on this issue, including:
- Bilaterally recognizing the state of Palestine;
- Not using its veto to block the UN Security Council from admitting Palestine as a full UN member state; or
- Encouraging other countries to recognize Palestine.
State of play: U.S. officials said the review of options regarding a recognition of a Palestinian state is one of a number of issues Blinken asked the State Department to look at.
- Blinken also asked for a review on what a demilitarized Palestinian state would look like based on other models from around the world, the two U.S. officials said.
- The idea of a demilitarized Palestinian state is something Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu proposed several times between 2009 and 2015, but hasn’t referred to it in recent years.
- The purpose of such a review is to look at options for how a two-state solution can be implemented in a way that assures security for Israel, a U.S. official said.
What they’re saying: The U.S. official said the White House is aware of the two reviews.
- The official stressed Blinken hasn’t signed off on any new policy and the State Department is in the process of coming up with a big menu of options.
- A White House National Security Council spokesperson said it “has been longstanding U.S. policy that any recognition of a Palestinian state must come through direct negotiations between the parties rather than through unilateral recognition at the UN. That policy has not changed.”
- The State Department declined to comment.
Flashback: The State Department under the Obama administration did look at the issue of recognition of a Palestinian state, including after the Palestinian Authority sought recognition as a full member state at the UN in 2011.
- At the time, the State Department prepared a substantial paper on the issue but it wasn’t discussed inside the administration as a serious option, according to an official briefed on the paper.
- The UN General Assembly accepted Palestine as an observer state in 2012 but did not give it full membership.
Zoom out: British Foreign Minister David Cameron said on Monday the U.K. is considering recognition of Palestine as part of its plans for the day after the war in Gaza and as a way to give the Palestinians a political horizon.
- “We – with allies – will look at the issue of recognising a Palestinian state, including at the United Nations…that could be one of the things that helps to make this process irreversible,” he said.
Reality check: Netanyahu, who has long opposed a two-state solution, has recently rejected calls for Palestinian sovereignty and Israel is vehemently against any recognition of a Palestinian state by individual countries or at the UN.
- Netanyahu’s government includes ultranationalists who oppose even small overtures to the Palestinians. U.S. officials have admitted it’s extremely unlikely they’d agree to a path toward a future Palestinian state.
What to watch: Blinken is expected to with the Israeli Minister for Strategic Affairs Ron Dermer later Wednesday and discuss the situation in Gaza, plans for the day after the war and the possibility of normalization with Saudi Arabia.
- Dermer met Wednesday morning with White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan for a similar discussion, a U.S. official said.
@Michael
@Honeybee
The Jewish history of Palestine Texas
https://www.isjl.org/texas-palestine-encyclopedia.html#:~:text=Some%20Jews%2C%20almost%20all%20of,tied%20in%20a%20red%20bandana.
Hi, Sebastien
Close, but no falafel. That’s EAST Palestine. Palestine is in Texas.
https://i.etsystatic.com/29839417/r/il/257e34/5469068908/il_300x300.5469068908_jnwe.jpg
Israel is paying a very big price for having faulty perspectives from the very beginning. If we study the Trotsky interviews to the press from the moment he arrived in Mexico you will find a contrasting analysis. This is where we now have to go. Everything unfolds with it’s own rules and logic and by now, 2024 please do not be complacent that for bourgeois Israel things will advance favourable for Israel.
@Michael
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4439571-trump-knocks-biden-east-palestine-one-year-after-train-derailment/
Oslo Accords in a nutshell: Tunnel scene, “Blues Brothers (1980) 3’17” watch to end.
https://youtu.be/ftt4f2H3GDs?si=tEb5JfNqmUxhBjmG
If Palestine were in Ohio, Biden wouldn’t pay any attention to it.
@Bob Your comment reminds me of the Mel Brooks Carl Reiner bit about Churchill on the flipside of the original 2000 year old man album (1960) in which Mel Brooks insists that poor elocution extended WWII by years because everybody went looking for Narzis to fight because Churchill couldn’t pronounce, “Nazis,”” properly. Reiner says, “Oh, come on. Who?” “Well, me and the other eight guys in my group.” 😀
dreuveni: If Israel at it’s founding retained the name Palestine the conflict couldn’t be called Israeli-Palestinian Conflict as it is today. It would have to be called, for lack of a better word, the Palestine Hebrew-Arab Conflict or perhaps the Palestine Jewish-Muslim Conflict as in the Lebanon Civil War between Muslims and Christians. Nobody proposed a Two-State Solution for Lebanon it was regarded as a Civil War and the same would apply to Palestine.
So Blinken tells his deep state department, find me a solution that forces Israel to accept the state of Palestine. Other solutions are neither allowed nor to be even considered. If the solution is limited in this fashion, it can only lead to the terrorist state of Palestine.
I do see a solution that would be compatible with the state of the Jews: we go back to temporarily being Palestine, which is where the Israeli Jews lived before Ben Gurion called us Israel. That way, everybody, well most people, are happy. Then we can rename Palestine to Israel and Jordan to Palestine. Problem satisfactorily solved!!
Recognize whatever you want …NOONE CARES
What are the key criteria of states?
It is accepted that any territory that wants to be considered a state must meet four criteria. These are a settled population, a defined territory, government and the ability to enter into relations with other states. These were originally set out in the 1933 Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States