Zelensky says Ukraine shot down 16 of the 18 missiles
Macgregor said the opposite is true. The 18 missiles were very successful.
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Michael
Am I reading you correctly. Did you in front of the world really say this:
“Obviously, Macgregor is a liar! Why is this crap still being posted?”
We are all so tolerant of you Michael but you want to use censorship
Hi, Peloni. You said,
Denys has been advocating for months, that Ukraine withdraw from Bakhmut. He also is against a Spring” offensive, even though he believes Ukraine could win it, because it will probably involve high casualties. The Ukraine government has urged bloggers like Denys not to comment on the coming offensive, to maintain secrecy. This is what the Allies did before Normandy.
@Michael
Actually I don’t believe the Russian propaganda anymore than the Ukrainian propaganda, but I do recognize that the Russians are actually not making very many statements at all, while the Ukrainians continuously spew out Ghost of Kiev commentaries which are used by many, such as yourself, as being news simply because the Ukrainians made the statement. I long ago gave up any hope that the little Ukrainian who cried wolf could be taken seriously, and look for support among many reports on either side to fit the facts surrounding them. If the Ukraine marvel of shooting down 16 out of 18 missiles were true, any more than the claim that they shot down some 60+ out of 80 during the initial missile campaign, Ukraine would have very little concern from anything more than falling debris from their successful air defense campaign. Instead, they have chosen to cancel their spring offensive, presuming the recent vapid assault was not the limit of their long awaited attack. The Ukrainians have been successful in their propaganda war due to their control over the Western media and those who find such tidbits of fake news as news worthy. I am just not one of them.
By the way, it was Denys who indicated that such an attack would take place shortly after Russia held only half of Bakhmut, correct me if I am in error. Now that Russia holds it all, and still no assault is forthcoming, do you really believe that Ukraine, with all their foreign supplies and munitions will be enough to regain their lost grounds, even as their best troops are mustered to reform Azov under a new battalion name? I find their chance of success failing, not improving with time, and their abandonment of saving Bakhmut with a sizeable counter punch, particularly since they have only recently stopped warning of its coming, to be a rather poignant indication of their recognition of this fact.
Hi, Peloni.
You know I didn’t say that; and the fact that you had to fabricate this to counter what I said, tells me you aren’t really secure in what you profess. This is a war, and of course, both sides are spewing out propaganda. You and Ted have chosen to believe only one side (that of Russia and its mouthpieces). I tend to believe Denys Davydov. There’s plenty of war ahead, for us to find out who was correct.
Here is the latest from Denys:
https://youtu.be/TIhYNFn_-cY
@Michael
What high irony. With the Ukrainians shooting down all the Russian hardware, even the supersonic missiles, it is amazing the damage being done to the Ukrainian supply warehouses as I do recall seeing rather significant explosions this past week. Just out of curiousity, if Ukraine shot down nearly all the Russian missiles, how is it that the patriot battery which was damaged by the Russian missiles was actually damaged? I mean, if it was the Patriot batteries which were shooting down the missiles, isn’t it a bit convenient that they failed to protect themselves while shooting down nearly all the other missiles?
Like the little boy who cried wolf too often, Ukraine has earned a reputation for being a great source of fake news. So unless they can get the Ghost of Kiev to come testify that it really was 16 out of 18 missiles shot down, I think I will take odds that this is just one more tale out of Kiev’s Fables and that it is the Ukrainian propagandists and not McGreggor who is the liar.
Obviously, Macgregor is a liar! Why is this crap still being posted?
Not only has Ukraine shot down nearly all of the Russian missiles, but many of them have been the supposedly “invincible” hypersonic cruise missiles — shot down, Israelis should note with pride, by the Patriot defense system.
Russia’s main objective in this exercise, is apparently to exhaust the Ukraine by making them use phemonenally expensive Patriots to shoot down less valuable Russian ordinance.
https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2023/05/05/kinzhal-hypersonic-missile-may-have-been-shot-down-over-kyiv-stadium/
https://theweek.com/russo-ukrainian-war/1023615/ukraines-patriot-air-defense-is-dueling-russias-hypersonic-kinzhal
From the second source, we have this saucy tidbit:
Putin is demonstrably shaken by the missile disaster, and doing what every Communist bully dictator has always done: Find scapegoats and persecute them.