Comment by Ted Belman
I support the burning of the bibles 100 %. First of all, this more than a free speech issue or a freedom of religion issue. The Christians claims both. So do the Islamists why they defend there right to lie and incite hate. From the point of view of the Jews, it is about self defense. Foe 2000 years the Jews have developed mechanisms to ensure their survival both physically and spiritually. They have a right to defend their culture and that trumps the missionaries right of free speech.. For that matter the same applies to the Americans who still care about their culture or way of life. They better learn how to defend themselves.But some ask “but why burn them?” To make a clear statement. Missionizing is offensive to Jews. If Christians don’t want their bibles burnt, don’t hand them out unsolicited.
I wrote this before I read that the bibles included the Hebrew Bible.
by Ellen W. Horowitz
Yes Virginia, there is anti-Semitism…
You must see this video of Pat Robertson attacking Orthodox Jews and promoting the messianics, and the change in the law of return (which was really not changed).
CBN Report: Turning Up the ‘Heat’ on Messianic Jews (June 4, 2008)
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“Ultra Orthodox Jews in the Israeli town of Yehuda burned new testament bibles belonging to Messianic Jews… It’s the latest in a series of incidents – in Israel – against Jesus…excuse me…Jews who believe in Jesus as the messiah.” -Pat Roberston on CBN NEWS
Ok. Pat…
a) the name of the town is Or Yehuda
b) the missionary material did not belong to Messianic Jews. It was given away as a deceptive little “gift”. Which means that those who were, unfortunately, in possession of the material were free to dispose of it as they saw fit (see my previous blog on the proper disposal of missionary material)
BTW I met with Rabbi Riskin last week (it was a good meeting), and he mentioned that several years ago the residents of Efrat received missionary bibles in the mail – as part of a campaign to convert Jews – and he poskened that people should burn them ( the missionary materials, not the missionaries).
c) that little freudian slip about “a series of incidents – in Israel – against Jesus”, is telling (should have edited it out, don’t you think?)
d) Note: Victor Kalisher, who is interviewed, is not a Jew as he claims. He is a practicing Christian and prints missionary materials.
e) Although the report fingers the Orthodox community for the pre-Purim attack, no suspects have been detained and no arrests have been made, but there was a fatwa out on Ortiz, and The Al-Aksa Martyrs Brigades terrorist group claimed responsibility for the bombing according to the Bethlehem-based Maan news agency.
Pat Robertson is the founder of the the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) and the Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN). He received a special Zionist award from Benny Elon in 2004 for having “saved Israel’s tourism from bankruptcy.”
At the 2004 ICEJ sponsored Feast of the Tabernacles in Jerusalem, Robertson gave the cause of Messianic Judaism a big boost :
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Jews need to begin to cry out for their Messiah, he said. “I’ve met wonderful Jews… here in Jerusalem, who are all saying ‘Yes, Jesus you are our Messiah,'”
Pat Robertson’s main man, Jay Sekulow, is the Chief Counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) and a “Jew for Jesus” turned “messianic” who feels strongly about freedom of religion in Israel.
And CBN’s President Michael Little sits on the Executive Board of CUFI (Christians United for Israel). I think Pastor Hagee would be far more successful in ridding the church of anti-Semitism, if he started in his own backyard. His publisher and CUFI regional director Stephen Strang is a signatory on the recent widely publicized World Evangelical Alliance statement endorsing efforts to evangelize the Jews (a full page ad appeared in the New York Times and other major papers).
Found 2 clips that answer Pat Robertson and all Christians with the most Jewish reply:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOIfzrypwW4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svV3jrv9Q2Y
Don’t mind Robertson, he is becoming increasingly stupid in his old age, explains why he now embraces the idea of man made global warming.
No offense elvis I know the quote and it is fits most American Jews . Judaism for them is mostly culinary.
When I made my comment there weren’t any others as I didn’t do a screen refresh. I didn’t mean to belittle your comment, yamit.
con’t:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW1wDts7Nes&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKis54dAn5g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKis54dAn5g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wahd2piIr4Q&feature=related
I believe any Christian that is here and trying to subvert our people away from their faith should be put in prison with our worst Arab terrorists and let them try to convert them. I would give them 1 year for ea. offense if they live that long. I would love to see Jewish Law imposed , then we could destroy every Church and Mosque in the Land. I would start with the Obamination on Mt. Moriah first.
On the Other hand? Christians could just stay home. Pat robertson has a TV station here we should shutr it down. That is an answer he might relate to.
“They tried to kill us. We won. Let’s eat!”
Alan King, comedian
My opening statement are 2 videos that express my inner most feelings:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSVEgSkglxU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep6mjhs5Eh8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW1wDts7Nes&feature=related