T. Belman. As Alex rightly points out the Holocaust was an attack against a people, the Jews. Hitler tried to label us a race. But “a people” is not synonymous with “a race.”
Whoopi tried to make the case that the Holocaust was ‘not about race”. In a very narrow sense it wasn’t about race. It was an attempt to exterminate the Jewish people, not a race. But it was about race insofar as the Nazis thought of the Jews as a race.. Whoopi made the point that the Jews were not a race. i.e they couldn’t be identified by their physical characteristics e.g. the colour of their skin.
As a result of the Holocaust, genocide became a unique international crime “Genocide is an internationally recognized crime where acts are committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.“
Thus genocide is an attempt to kill a group be it distinguished by national, ethnic, racial or religious characteristics.
So Whoopi begged the issue. The Holocaust was about the killing of a group (extermination) rather than a race.
While I am at it, I would be remiss if I didn’t decry the Left, of which Whoopi and the Jewish establishment are certainly a part, because it tries to universalize the Holocaust into an attempt to exterminate any group. While the left is right to see a genocide in this light, it is wrong to see the Holocaust as merely a genocide.
The Holocaust was an attempt to kill the Jews, It should not be construed as a Genocide although it was that too. Holocaust museums also fall into this trap and universalize their message against any and all genocides. This is a betrayal against all the Jews who were killed, not because they were members of a group but because they were Jews.
The unconstrained, ideological drive to murder every Jew distinguishes the Holocaust from prior and later ethnocide and mass murder.
To the Nazis, they were a satanic force that supposedly ruled the world through their control of Wall Street and the communist regime in the Soviet Union. A sophisticated individual would probably have recognized the inconsistency of this logic as well as the false assertion that Jews are a separate race. Yet, however simplistic, for the common German, and later for the rest of Europe, this absurd claim served as a useful rationalization.
Sadly, there are people throughout the world who still subscribe to this and like myths.
Believing in all sorts of pseudoscientific and racial nonsense, the Nazis saw the Jews as a cancer, a dangerous virus, a bacillus that, if left unchecked, would allow the Jews to dominate the world completely. [1]
In 1942, Hitler told Heinrich Himmler, head of the SS, that “The discovery of the Jewish virus is one of the greatest revolutions that has taken place in the world, the battle in which we are engaged today is one of the same sort as the battle waged, during the last century, by [Louis] Pasteur and [Robert] Koch. How many diseases have their origin in the Jews. We shall regain our health only by eliminating the Jew. Everything has a cause, nothing comes by chance.” [2]
Hitler believed that the Jews, through miscegenation, were race polluters whose aim was to obliterate the white race: “With every means he tries to destroy the racial foundations of the people he has set out to subjugate. Just as he himself systematically ruins women and girls, he does not shrink back from pulling down the blood barriers of others, even on a large scale. It was and it is the Jews who bring the Negroes into the Rhineland, always with the same secret thought and clear aim of ruining the hated white race by the necessarily insulting bastardization, throwing it down from its cultural and political height, and himself rising to be its master.[3]
Failure to confront the Jew would spell disaster for the human race, Hitler thought, as the following excerpt from Mein Kampf shows:
If, with the help of his Marxist creed, the Jew is victorious over the other peoples of the world, his crown will be the funeral wreath of humanity and this planet will, as it did thousands of years ago, move through the ether devoid of men…. by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting the work of the Lord. [4]
In other words, as philosopher Steven Katz has noted, “the Holocaust was intended as, and received its enormous power from, the fact that it aimed at restructuring the cosmos anew-now without the Jews.” [5]
Those who understood national socialism as “nothing more than a political movement,” Hitler rightly observed know “scarcely anything of it. It is more than a religion: it is the will to create mankind anew.” [6]
This abiding obsession with destroying the Jewish people can also be seen in Hitler’s Political Testament. In his last communication with the German people, written on April 29, 1945, at 4 a.m. just before he and his mistress Eva Braun committed suicide, Hitler declared that “Above all I charge the leadership of the nation and their followers with the strict observance of the racial laws and with merciless resistance against the universal poisoners of all peoples, international Jewry.[7]
It is this unconstrained, ideologically driven imperative that every Jew be murdered that distinguishes [the Holocaust] from prior and to date subsequent, however inhumane, acts of collective violence, ethnocide, and mass murder. [8]
No longer did the Jews have the option to convert to Christianity and escape being killed. As long as the Nazis viewed them a separate race, the Jews were destined for extinction. Nothing the Jews could do would change that.
When the Nazis attacked the Soviet Union in June 1941, they did so not only for political and strategic reasons, but also for the eradication of their mortal enemy-the Jews. [9] They pursued this ideological war even when it meant diverting resources from their troops at the front. When the need for trains to transport soldiers and supplies conflicted with the requirement to transport Jews to the extermination camps, both received equal consideration.
In June 1942, the Germans were preparing a new summer offensive in southern Russia, to which they were committing all of their 266 reserve divisions on the Eastern front. In preparation for the attack, a two-week ban on civilian traffic had been declared. After Wilhelm Kruger, Himmler’s top agent in Poland, objected to the head of the railroad authority about this arrangement, they reached an agreement whereby some civilian transports would be permitted during this period. Himmler felt this was inadequate, so he intervened, leaving no doubt that regardless of the military needs the “Jewish problem” was still of the highest priority. As a result, from July 22 a train containing 5,000 Jews left Warsaw for Treblinka each day. In addition, twice a week a train containing 5,000 Jews from Przemy?l left for Belzec. [10]
During the following winter, the position of the German military began to deteriorate. The German troops who were besieging Stalingrad had been surrounded by the Red Army. To break through the Russian lines, the Germans sent in a fresh Panzer division in mid-December. At the same time, the Germans imposed a one-month ban on civilian railroad transport beginning on December 15, 1942. Even after the ban ended, the disaster at Stalingrad required extensive rail transport. But Himmler again intervened, this time on January 20, 1943, to ensure that trains were available for moving Jews to the extermination camps.
From February 1943, trains were used to deport Jews from Berlin to Auschwitz and from the Bialystok ghetto to Treblinka. By March, Jews from all over Europe were being transported to their death. In July 1944, when the Germans were evacuating Greece and needed all available rail transport, the deportation of the Jews remained on schedule. [11]
As the late Richard Rubenstein pointed out, “The Jews, during World War II, were the first victims of an all-out attempt at the physical annihilation of a people, but there is no guarantee that such an effort will not be repeated against some other group…. The mere fact that every modern government possesses such power cannot but alter the relations between those who govern and those who are governed. This power must also alter the texture of foreign relations. In a very real sense, Auschwitz has enlarged our conception of the state’s capacity to do violence. A barrier has been overcome in what for millennia had been regarded as the permissible limits of political action.” [12]
“Our continued interest and fascination with the Nazi period” waned the late historian Jacob Talmon, “should keep us vigilant.it is entirely possible that this is the end that awaits many races and nations-maybe all of them. And the Jews will then prove to have been the first victim of this new experiment. The question remains, Has Auschwitz become an eternal warning or merely the first station on the road to the extermination of all races and the suicide of humanity?” [13]
Ms. Goldberg, is it clear now?
End Notes
[1] Alex Bein, “The Jewish Parasite,” Leo Baeck Year Book IX (New York: East and West Library,1964): pp.3-40; Franklin H. Littell, The Crucifixion of the Jews (Macon, Ga.: Mercer University Press, 1986); Joshua Trachtenberg, The Devil and the Jews: The Medieval Conception of the Jew and Its Relation to Modern Anti-Semitism (New York: Meridian Press, 1961); Jacob L. Talmon, “European History: Seedbed of the Holocaust,” Midstream XIX (May 1973): pp. 3-25; Jackson Spielvogel and David Redles, “Hitler’s Racial Ideology: Content and Occult Sources,” Simon Wiesenthal Center Annual 3 (New York: Kraus International Publications, 1986), 227-246; Shmuel Ettinger, “The Origins of Modern Anti-Semitism,” in The Catastrophe of European Jewry: Antecedents, History, Reflections, eds. Yisrael Gutman and Livia Rothkirchen (Jerusalem: Yad Vashem, 1976), 3-39; Alex Grobman, License to Murder: The Enduring Threat of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Noble: Oklahoma: Balfour Books, 2011); Robert Wistrich, A Lethal Obsession: Anti-Semitism from Antiquity to the Global Jihad (New York: Random House, 2010); Richard Landes and Steven T. Katz, The Paranoid Apocalypse: A Hundred Year Retrospective on The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (New York: New York University Press,2012); Phyllis Chesler, The New Anti-Semitism (Jerusalem, Israel: Gefen Publishing House, 2015).
[2] N. Cameron and R H. Stevens, trans., Hitler’s Table Talk (New York: Oxford University Press, 1988), 332.
[3] Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf (New York: Houghton Mifflin, 1969), 293-296.
[4] Ibid. 60.
[5] Steven .T Katz, The Holocaust in Historical Context, vol.1, (New York: Oxford University Press, 1994), 7.
[6] Hermann Rauschning, Gesprache mit Hitler, 231 ff., quoted in Katz, op. cit. 7.
[7] Quoted in The Life and Death of Adolf Hitler by Robert Payne (London: Jonathan Cape LTD., 1973), 591.
[8] Katz, op. cit., 10.
[9] Yehuda Bauer, “Against Mystification,” in The Holocaust in Historical Perspective (Seattle: Washington University Press, 1978), 41-42.
[10] Lucy Dawidowicz, The War Against The Jews (New York: Bantam Books, 1975), 188-190.
[11] Ibid. 190-191.
[12] Richard Rubenstein, The Cunning of History (New York: Harper Colophon, 1975),2.
[13] [13] Jacob L. Talmon, “European History as the Seedbed of the Holocaust,” in Holocaust and Rebirth (Jerusalem: Yad Vashem, 1974), 69 and 72.
@Reader When you fill out a form which asks for your race (optional, of course), what do you answer?
Incidentally, when I have weird typos it’s because there is no edit feature on my ipd and sometimes I don’t have enough time to run to the computer.
@Sebastien Zorn
You are right but, again, we are not talking about sophisticated definitions here.
When you fill out a form which asks for your race (optional, of course), what do you answer?
Do you go into all sorts of hairsplitting and nitpicking about your genetics, or you simply state “white” or “Caucasian” (a weird term which means the same as White)?
Those blacks who “pass” would still write “Black”.
Yes, there are black and white Hispanics, etc. but Black and White is race but Hispanic isn’t.
You keep reverting to the 19th century definition, however the meanings of words change over time.
And Whoopi Goldberg is not a professor of anthropology, she is a (former?) comedian.
Jews seem to want to feel insulted whether they are or not.
@Reader @Ted There are many Black people who could pass for White and vice versa, not mention unrelated groups such as the many Hispanics who look like Asians, and some Asians, especially Koreans, who look Latino, specifically, or dark skinned peoples like Australian pygmies who would not qualify for Affirmative Action programs, either. Race is about genetics. Racism is about value judgements about genetics. In the Old South, you were considered Black if you had one drop of Negro blood. Actually, it’s funny how that word has developed racist connotations because of its contraction and how it was used. Not all black people are even from Africa. Some East Indians, for example, especially Untouchables, who are descended from the indigenous Dravidians who were conquered by the actual Aryans long ago.
We are discussing here, I think, whether the statement that Whoopi Goldberg made was antisemitic or not.
If my assumption is true, it makes no sense to look up the definitions of racism, ethnicity, etc.
All we need to know in order to find out what she meant is to figure out how she herself understood those terms and how she expected her audience to understand them.
This means how these terms are commonly used and not their “scientific” definitions which, btw, are not precise and often overlap.
When Hitler was alive, the word “race” meant type/ilk/kind/etc.
It could stand for race, people, ethnicity, clan, blood relations, etc.
When Hitler said “Jewish race” he could have just as well said “Jewish people”, “Jewish ethnics”, “those Asiatics”, “the Semites”, etc.
When someone uses the word “race” these days, they mean COLOR, no matter what the official “scientific” definition of race might be.
If Whoopi said that the Holocaust was not about the COLOR of your skin, everyone would say that she was perfectly correct, but she used the word “race” which caused a hysterical Jewish reaction and made the ADL to change its definition of race yet again.
@Ted, what you called the expanded definition of racism is what is the definition of racism actually is and it includes ethnicity. I have an earlier comment that included what several different definitions of racism are and they all include ethnicity. Your narrowing definition of racism plays right into the hands of those trying to marginalize Jews. If it was not for that I would not have bothered pointing out what I consider your error.
@Bear.
What you called an ethnicity, I called a people and said that race and a people are not synonymous.
But if you or Melanie, expand the definition of racism’s target.to include a people or ethnicity, then yes Whoopi was wrong.
@Ted where I believe you err is that you are failing to look at what racism is. Melanie does this because it she includes ethnicity (which the Jewish people are).
Racism is the Discrimination against a particular race or ethnic group. In Hitler case he wanted to destroy the Jewish people (which are an ethnic group).
As always, Melanie is on the money but obviously disagrees with me.
On the other hand,
Dennis Prager agrees with me.
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=rm&ogbl#search/prager/FMfcgzGmthnkQFJHPLtzzcChqxvbXTss
@Sebastien
Yes, Thank you President Trump!
Relevant and thank you President Trump
Excellent article about this in today’s Arutz Sheva by Melanie Phillips
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/321715
@Sebastien Zorn
This is true, too.
@ Reader Leftwing antisemites want to make Jews White and Rightwing antisemites want to make Jews Black and therefore fair game in their respective playbooks. Jews just don’t want to be victims anymore.
I’ve just looked up “race” and “ethnicity” in Merriam-Webster dictionary online and it’s a complete mess.
They give examples, and then they give definitions that contradict their examples, etc.
I stand by my definitions of race as in the old usage and the modern usage.
I think that before people start discussing something or arguing about it they should agree on exactly what its they are going to discuss, i.e.. they should agree on how they define their terms.
Otherwise one of them is going to argue about apples, the second one about oranges, the third one about cucumbers, and the whole thing will be a complete waste of time.
Progressives tend to be vague when giving reluctant lip service to an oppression they could care less about. Another example from an unrelated – other than her being a Jihadist antisemite but I am not conflating 9/11 with the Shoah – context:
on 9/11. Ilhan Omar
Whoopie’s apology and self-correction on twitter – not on her show, where most of her audience is, mind you – was nice but as with Obama and Jesse Jackson who reversed themselves when called on it so their careers wouldn’t be interrupted, I question their sincerity.
@ SEBASTIEN-
Reminded you of your SISTER…not in appearance, I hope. Odd; you and I most often share similar viewpoints, but of what I saw of her then, even if it was not much,, I never saw any humour. Jackie Mason, Myron Cohen , to me that’s humour. My favourites were Laurel and Hardy.
Although not generally though so, I think that Flying Deuces was one of their better films. Right from the beginning. The shark’s fin catching Hardy’s trousers as he was bending down was a classic. Laurel bottling the wine in The Bohemian Girl was another howl. I always liked “I Dreamt I Dwelt in Marble Halls”, even as a young kid.
@ SEBASTIEN-
Well if anything can bring up go go pigeons,,, since ducks are sort of related ..Even went ducks.
@Edgar I googled pigeons + Holocaust in Duckduckgo search engine and actually a lot came up.
Racism is the Discrimination against a particular race or ethnic group. Or,
Racism (interim definition): Racism occurs when individuals or institutions show more favorable evaluation or treatment of an individual or group based on race or ethnicity.
Race: Refers to the categories into which society places individuals on the basis of physical characteristics (such as skin color, hair type, facial form and eye shape). Though many believe that race is determined by biology, it is now widely accepted that this classification system was in fact created for social and political reasons. There are actually more genetic and biological differences within the racial groups defined by society than between different groups.
Ethnicity – the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition (Jews or the Jewish People fall into this broad definition)
The Law of Return is anything the current Israeli bureaucrat in power wants it to be.
The law itself is too general and nonspecific and the bureaucracy is free to come up with any rules and paperwork it can invent for aliyah eligibility.
@Edgar It’s because she shapes public opinion as moderator of The View. I had no idea of her politics before. I was a big fan when she was an obscure comic -very much in Lily Tomlin tradition; she really reminded me of my sister – just starting out in the 70s and she made some delightful movies. Jumping Jack Flash comes to kind. Time to go back to fluff, Whoopie. Cushions have fluff too. Whoopie Cushion? Ha Ha. Sounds like the name of a band.
As to the probably source of my notorious 2.8 percent (the rest being 93.5 percent Ashkenazic and 3.7 percent North African Sephardic (Mizrahi?) Brian in half Roman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS-0Az7dgRY
@SEBASTIEN-
The Right of Return based on Hitler’s concept, was all very well right then, Israel needed more population. In the aftermath of the closed Palestine and the subsequent Dreadful Holocaust it was also an emotional reaction. But that was 80 years ago.
i think the Right of Return lineage system should have been changed long ago, LIke a mixed parentage, where the Jewish content is not so distant, but right there.
People who have just one Jewish grandparent, are mostly long since well assimilated into the general Goyisher population, and think little or nothing about being any part Jewish, unless it might be mentioned in a casual conversation.
It’s bad enough that in the US the intermarriage rate is climbing past 70%. Also in other countries, communities are shrinking due to intermarriage.
I know from personal experience of such people as I was growing up, they often dearly wanted to be with the Jewish Community, and would come to shool on yomim tovim.. but when the descent was another generation back, they were, and lived like, goyim. I recall several members of our Jewish sports clubs with mixed parentage. they wanted to be with Jews, so they came to us and joined. Over time, as the Community dwindled, they married back into the community.
My feeling is, that if a person with only a single Jewish grandparent wants to be Jewish, that person will make every attempt to become converted. Like those Anusim, and Marranos who are slowly emerging from many places in the world…. like South America for instance. it’ll take a long time, but I feel that many will make every effort to return to Judaism.
@Ted Belman
If by “race” he meant black/white/yellow, he would be wrong.
If by “race” he meant type/ilk/breed (which he did, in the outdated usage), he would be right, at least in the old antisemitic terms.
After all, the Nazi criteria for identifying Jews was by their blood relations, not by whether any particular Jew considered himself to be part of the Jewish people.
Most Jews are very closely related to each other in any case.
You know guys, i wonder why all this hullaballo about “Whoopie” Goldberg…such exitement. !!
From the very beginning, seeing this woman calling herself Goldberg was a joke. I also wondered what the joke really was. Then I forgot all about her, for years and years -until still “persecution” blew up here.
It seems that she’s sufferring…Hmm
Jackie Mason once was talking about Frank Sinatra, that his doctor told him that his chasing all those different women was a sign of an illness. Jackie then said “there was Sinatra going from girl to girl, suffering like anything”…” I wish I could be so sick… “.
I think the Whoopiers are sick… She’s a long-time open Anti-Semite and supporter of the YESHA Arabs. She’s been prominent in Marches for them right in the front line, as the pictures have shown.
So the poor kid mentioned “race” or ” not race”…. a shame. Nebbuch.
I think we should change the subject to something more exhilarating…..
…like the extinction of the Moa, or the Passenger pigeon. They should generate at least 30-40 posts.
@Edgar Point taken. Knees it is. Ha Ha. Not that Hitler and his creatures would have cared. And that’s what matters in this debate. That’s why the Israeli Right of Return is not based solely on Jewish Law but also on relatives who could be endangered by the connection. That’s why an important reason why Israel is a light – beacon, really – to the nations, albeit not the safest due to the fifth column in her midst. For me, intermarriage can only be a concern in that it can lead to diluted loyalties but then we have that problem, anyway, don’t we.
@ TED-
You misunderstood my comment, I hope intentionally. It’s not what I know. I said it’s what the common perception is, and THAT’S what I PLAINLY, (aa I thought) laid out.
@ SEBASTIENO-
This is part of your 2.7% name, about every 35th time .
I think that Groucho said..”up to her knees”, not that it matters, he married an unconverted shiksa……..which I am totally against.
Progressives – which means liberals + leftists – always believe the shark will not eat them or eat them last if they side with it. beneath all the high flown rhetoric. Not just Jewish, but especially so, due to the Oslo Syndrome that plagues us.
“The shark is a benign creature of the deep… if you live in Kansas, he won’t bother you.” Mel Brooks, The Indian Ictthiologist on Johnny Carson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhmxPyWWS90
“We’re not in Kansas, anymore, Toto.” – Judy Garland as Dorothy – Wizard of Oz
Christian, Muslim, and Marxist antisemitism, at least in theory, are different and not as bad. You can save yourself by converting, the way Marx’s whole family did. And Torquemada’s. And Ahmenidjad’s. There is a member of the PLO ruling clique who has a Jewish wife. I forget which one. Marxists, probably. When I was a pro-Palestinian activist duriing the first intifada, they were all Marxists, half American Jews and half American Palestinian Muslim Arabs. Mostly women. All Marxists.
@Ted Belman and I know that’s not what Jewish law says – I thought like you once – but I’m talking common sense, here. 2.8 percent. I had it done going back 2,000 years at MYHeritage.Com the Israeli company that has also been doing covid testing, I believe. Jews are both a people and those of us whose ancestors have been Jews for a long time and intermarrying with other Jews, are a race. Otherwise, how are secular Jews like me, singled out and identified for our appearance? Total strangers walking up to me and starting conversations, as though we were continuing a conversation, invariably a crazy one. Examples available upon request.
@Ted Belman Hitler didn’t regard converts as Jews or Jewish apostates as “Aryan.” The unique evil of racism is that its victims have no loophole to escape it. He wasn’t an antisemite because he was a racist, which he was. He was a racist, because he was an eliminationist antisemite. You can join or abandon a people. Race is about genetics, whether actual or as social construct designating certain inherited group characteristics as more important than others, but no less real for it. Among Koreans, for example, there are even within the same family, people of very dark, swarthy appearance, and people who are very pink and Caucasian looking, even without plastic surgery, and no importance is paid to it. But, until recently, it was illegal and it is still frowned up for people with the same last name and from the same province to marry, because they might be from the same clan.
On the other hand, when groups are isolated for a long time they develop commonalities. I, for example, as it turns out am 2.7 percent Italian and hte rest is Jewish.
In an op-ed in INN by Dr Frager, he said that Whoopi couldn’t be more wrong and then explained
He conflates race with people. In this, I think he is wrong.. I would never call Jews a race.. I call them a people. Others think we Jews are enough of a race to be called a race then yes, she was wrong.
Is the debate on whether we are a race or not closed or is she entitled to make that point?
@Sabastian
Yes she went further. I did not get into all her other remarks. I just focussed on the “not a race”.
The Torah does not define us as a race at all. Doesn’t even hint at it. But it did define us as a people.
“My daughter’s only half Jewish; can she go into the pool up to her waist?” – Groucho Marx
@Ted Belman She said it was about man’s inhumanity to man which is on a par with the Dems being unable to pass a simple resolution against anti-semitism, settling for one against hate.
In my comment below Ieft off a negative which I have now fixed. Whoopi said it was “not about race” She is entitled to make that point even if Hitler tried to treat Jews as a race.
@Edgar.@Sabastian
There is no such thing as the “Jewish race” and you know it.
Zionism is not a race thing, it is a people thing.
I find that the criticism of her is way over the top. Why go to the mat with her on the issue of whether Jews are a race or a people?
I’ve been stopped too many times by unfamiliar Goyim, friendly or hostile, because they assumed I was Jewish just by looking at.me not to believe we are a race. I was la eftwing assimilationist and anti-zionist until about age 40. I had the same wakeup call that
Tivadar Herzl and Moses Hess had before me.
Regardless of all the “learned” opinions about the differences between a race, a religion and a people, the Jews have, in most of history, been referred to as a “race”. That Jews are composed of many different colours and nationalities, even involving ethnicities because of conversions, at least since the Roman days; boosted by the Inquisition makes little difference.
When the ancient Greeks were made aware of the Jews, they referred to them as “a race of philosophers”. Obviously long before Herod, Menachem and Bar Kocheba. Possibly when visiting Israel and listening to Sages customary discourse at the city gates. Also must have been before Alexander,
The Jew Hating Goyim don’t stop to think about it, they know what they know-even though they really know nothing. A jew is a jew.
@Ted Belman
What is the difference between the Jewish race and Jews?
I don’t see any unless race means color.
And Hitler couldn’t have been talking about the Jewish “color”.
@Ted, you are giving Whoppi way too much credit. Look she is an airhead far leftist racist who hates Jews and Israel. For her it can only be a crime if it is white people hurting black people.
I have to repeat that when Hitler talked about “race” he meant different breeds of humans and not solely their color.
The way race is defined in the US today is solely by color, and Holocaust was not about color.
That is what Whoopi Goldberg meant.
These hysterics about antisemitism actually cause more antisemitism.
@Sabastian
You are saying that Hitler wanted to exterminate the Jewish race as he put it rather than Jews.. Whoopi corrected him and declared it was not about race.. I agree with her, it was about Jews.
You think Hitler was right and Whoopi, wrong. I disagree. Why should Whoopi have to apologize for saying it wasn’t about race regardless of how Hitler defined it or Jews..
Woke leftists define every alleged oppression they care about as racial. For them, saying the genocide against the Jews wasn’t racial is their way of saying, so what, who cares, move on folks,nothing to see here, get over it. what happens to you doesn’t matter, a few empty, platitudes about hate should shut you (us) up and if not we are Trumpian domestic terrorists/insurrectionists.
High time for these cultural Robespierres to meet the fate of their ideological forbear, hoist by their own petard, as it were.
Antisemites are the only bigoted or even just controversial politically incorrect celebrities who can get off with a public apology, claims of not knowing any better or recantation. And denying or minimizing the Holocaust is always their opening salvo. No more second chances. Lefftists and Black nationalists used to say that American Jews only supported the Civil Rights movement to get rights for themselves which is a crock. Trump was the first to extend civil liberties protections to Jews. Fire her.
@Ted Belman Not according to Hitler. And remember, the Nazi definition of a Jew was somebody with Jewish grandparents, whether they knew it or not, including babies.
Whoopi Goldberg suffered for nothing because the definition of race that she used and which is adopted in the US is entirely different from the way this word was used before the war.
Before WWII the word “race”, especially as it was used in Europe, simply meant “type” or “breed”.
In German, for example, the language in which Mein Kampf was obviously written in, die Rasse can mean either race or breed – one can actually talk about die Rasse of a cow.
The modern American definition is limited to skin color because of the unique “racial” situation in the US, and this is the definition Whoopi Goldberg used and this is the one that the ADL recently adopted
She probably meant that the primary reason for Holocaust was Jewishness and not skin color.
Sinclair Lewis’ novel It Can’t Happen Here is not paranoid – it is already happening here, and the Jews are in denial as usual which is frightening to watch.
Jews would be better off closing all these fake “Zionist” and antisemitism-fighting organizations and focusing their efforts and money on enabling aliyah without “selection”, just as prophesied in the Bible.
Whoppi for her insensitive and crude comments about Jews and NAZIs was suspended for two weeks from hosting the View by ABC.
If like comments had been by a “White” or “Jewish” person against the Black Race my belief is they would have been fired!
@Ted, what Whoppi looks at everything based on skin tone and leaves any other cultural, religious, nationality, people-hood (such as Jews), as irrelevant.
When she got blasted on this she apologized.
Whoopi was right. (I never thought that I would say that.) Its not about race.. Its about the extermination of a people.
In her mind like most extreme leftists, only black people had suffered injustice from white people. Any other problems are food fights within and among non black people. So what is the big deal if some white people have killed few millions of other white people? After all they belonged to the same race. Whites. No, the big deal is when George Floyd died.