Right-wing organization says EU trying to establish “facts on the ground;” EU says it is providing “humanitarian assistance.”
By HERB KEINON, TOVAH LAZAROFF, JPOST
The blue EU logo seen on new modular structures in an illegal Beduin encampment in the Judean hills outside the Ma’alen Adumim settlement. . (photo credit:TOVAH LAZAROFF)
The EU is building hundreds of illegal structures in the West Bank, which the government has not removed in order to avoid a diplomatic tangle with the Europeans, according to a report released Friday by the NGO, Regavim. The structures are being built near Ma’aleh Adumim and its E1 area.
This report is just one of a number the group – a right-wing organization which describes itself as a “research-backed, legal advocacy organization focused on land ownership issues” – has released in recent months.
According to Regavim, European Union support for the Palestinians has in recent years moved from “passive diplomatic and financial assistance to a situation of active cooperation in illegal building which the Palestinian Authority has been advancing unilaterally since 2000, as part of its strategic plan to create a Palestinian state de facto, while avoiding the need for negotiations with Israel.”
This week, prior to the release of its latest report, Regavim took journalists to look at a number of Beduin encampments straddling E1 as well as the Jerusalem-Jericho road. They are not temporary tent encampments as they were in years past, but rather clusters that – in addition to tents and tin shacks – also include modular structures with cement floors bearing the EU logo.
According to Ari Briggs, Regavim’s international relations director, the EU logo is placed on the structures in the belief that this will prevent Israel from demolishing them. Israel is not likely to take down a building with an EU logo, due to concerns over both public relations damage and the harm it could cause to relations with the EU, he said.
Maj.-Gen Yoav Mordechai, the coordinator of government activities in the territories (COGAT), was in Europe this week holding talks with high-level EU officials. One diplomatic source said this issue was one of the topics of his conversations.
A COGAT representative, referring to the Regavim charge that it is reluctant to take down the structures because of EU involvement, said: “The civil administration acts against illegal construction, and no organization is exempt from enforcement.
COGAT has sent official letters to embassies and international organizations cautioning them against building illegally in Judea and Samaria.”
Regavim claims EU support for these structures is part of a Palestinian plan to gradually take control of large parts of Area C, the 60 percent of the West Bank that, according to the Oslo Accords, is under full Israeli control.
The EU has for years increasingly focused on shoring up Palestinian development in this area, believing it vital to the viability of a future Palestinian state.
The EU-funded structures, according to Meir Deutsch, the director of Regavim’s policy and government relations department, are being placed illegally on state land, and in some cases in restricted nature reserves.
When Regavim appealed to the High Court in 2008 to compel the state to demolish illegal buildings in the area, it ruled that this could not be done until an alternative living arrangement was found for the Beduin living there. Israel then began planning a city – called Ramat Nueima – north of Jericho for some 12,000 people, a plan now adamantly opposed by the Palestinians and the EU.
In November, a meeting of EU foreign ministers issued a statement that, in addition to their usual condemnations of land expropriation and settlement construction, also slammed plans to “displace Beduin in the West Bank and the continued demolitions, including of EU and member states funded projects.”
The underlying idea behind the joint Palestinian/EU efforts in Area C, Briggs asserted, is to establish a permanent Palestinian presence on the state lands there. “This is great hypocrisy,” Briggs said. “Any time a building goes up for Jews, they raise an outcry, call it illegal and say it endangers peace. They are building illegal houses for Arabs.”
From 2012-2014, according to Deutsch, the EU – at the cost of millions of euros – has put up more than 400 structures.
In response, the EU said it is providing humanitarian assistance to communities in need in Area C in accordance with the humanitarian imperative; it is committed to supporting the development of Area C for the benefit of Palestinian communities; and it consults with the local communities themselves and the Israeli authorities where necessary.
According to a statement issued by the Office of the EU Representative in east Jerusalem, the EU is “deeply dismayed by and strongly opposes Israeli plans to expand settlements in the West Bank, including in east Jerusalem, and in particular plans to develop the E1 area.”
“The E1 plan, if implemented, would seriously undermine the prospects of a negotiated resolution of the conflict by jeopardizing the possibility of a contiguous and viable Palestinian state and of Jerusalem as the future capital of two states,” the statement read. “It could also entail forced transfer of civilian population.
In the light of its core objective of achieving the two-state solution, the EU will closely monitor the situation and its broader implications, and act accordingly. The European Union reiterates that settlements are illegal under international law and constitute an obstacle to peace.”
James Carver, a British member of the European Parliament from the right-wing Euroskeptic Independent Party, is sending a letter Friday to his colleagues based on the Regavim paper slamming the EU’s policy.
In the letter, Carver wrote that the EU actions do not comply with the founding treaties of the EU. He said the structures are disrespectful of the rule of law, because the construction of the structures without the necessary permits is a “manifest violation of law.”
Clearly, he wrote, “EU member states would not allow such behavior within their own borders, nor would the EU endorse or find it anywhere within the European Union. So why would the EU do so outside its borders?” Secondly, he wrote, the buildings contravene the Oslo Accords, which give Israel full administrative responsibility and authority over Area C. “Any building constructed without such permit is illegal, and by endorsing such acts by the Palestinians, the EU is participating in a violation of the Oslo II Agreement,” he wrote.
Finally, Carver added, some of the structures are being built on nature reserves, where construction is forbidden.
dweller Said:
irrelevant, she stated her opinion as did quigley but quigley accompanied his with insults and therefore he had to be taken to the woodshed for a humiliating spanking.
dweller Said:
a typically ridiculous comment from you; as you love to suggest: quigley does not have to read it, he can ignore it, or comment without insult…. but as he lit the stove in the kitchen he was required to receive the required and just heat.
dweller Said:
😛 😛 😛 LOLROFLMAO
no need to make excuses for her when you and quigley are the clowns here. I made no excuse, no need to…. with one word she surpassed you in relevance and brevity…
instead I exposed, ridiculed and humiliated quigley and YOU in the same manner that you both sought to do to her.
However, nothing that quigley or dove did measures up to your ludicrous post which consisted entirely of irrelevant psychobabble, insult and narcissism as I have clearly detailed here.
@ dove:
This isn’t the first time you’ve taken it on yourself to give orders around here. You don’t have that authority.
For me, no. Mostly I ignore your remarks as irrelevant & uninformed personal indulgences — and in the words of a certain blogsite administrator, “I don’t have time for that shit.”
But your comment quite understandably did blindside other readers, among them Felix Quigley, whom you owe the courtesy of an apology. Your remark was unreferenced & off-the-wall to both the article and the earlier comment. You don’t write to communicate; you write strictly for the contact with “the club.”
Supposed to be vague??? And why would that be?
All he “caught on” to was that a non-member of the clique [Quigley] called out a member [yourself] — and that I replied to Quigley (before he could slam him), and that I corrected Felix in a way that reiterated my observations of an all-too-familiar pattern hereabouts. So he attacked me as well. That’s the long & the short of it.
Any Jew would know that you don’t speak for the Jews, and that you use that kind of talk only to confirm your own Jewishness. Once again, you presume to speak for Jews. BUT you don’t. You can scarcely speak for yourself because even your own identity is in flux.
The only reason you keep resorting to this habit of speaking of what “any Jew would” is that you’re still proving to yourself that you’re a Jew, and you assume — consciously or otherwise — that if you can get away with this silly gambit (especially on this website), that this will mean that your Jewishness is no longer an issue.
But it will never happen that way. Repeat: not that way. The clique may well indulge you in that shmegegge in return for your support of them, but your problem will NEVER be resolved for you that way; guaranteed.
“A shred of light”? — where would that be? You produce no light; lots of heat, yes — but no light. Your comment had produced not a glimmer of light on anything, let alone ‘exposed’ any church. All it exposed was a little more of the dark private world you inhabit.
“Ape shit”? — I have no use for phonies: IN the churches or OUT of them.
Told you: I’ve no use for phonies. You are one, and you ally yourself to other ones — and the fact that you do it in the name of Judaism & the Jewish people makes it all the more revolting, tasteless, and frankly, offensive.
— Since you asked.
Right? — LMAO. I was exposing the RCC — in print — before you were born, Missy Clueless.
Under the circumstances, it certainly was.
So you’ve read all my comments here, have you? That would appear to contradict what you’ve said about NOT reading them.
You miss the forest for the trees. BR’s problem w/ envy isn’t about YoursTruly, and I haven’t suggested that; I was simply handy for his raging bile, because I’d had the temerity to defend Quigley’s exasperation while putting it in perspective.
But Ross’s envy issues were eating him up long, long before this blogsite ever existed; he merely brought them with him to the party. He resents me for noting the fact; it’s that simple.
His hundreds of posts characterizing my observations as ‘psychobabble’ are directly traceable to my original allusion to his envy. He’s like a dog w/ a foxtail in his ear, trying to shake it loose — which only makes it burrow deeper.
Envy, like the other “deadly sins,” isn’t grounded in somebody’s relationship to (or dealings w/) persons, conditions, or things. The Seven Deadlies — avarice, anger, envy, pride, sloth lust, stupor — are ALWAYS specific to the person her/himself. Whom somebody envies is always INCIDENTAL and peripheral to the individual who harbors the envy.
The point is that if one is envious, s/he’ll find persons to envy and things to envy them for.
@ dweller:
CAN it Dweller. You have made your point – ad nauseam! My comment was too vague for you? It was suppose to be! Bernard Ross caught on right away – any Jew would!
Whenever there is a shred of light to expose the church you go ape shit!!! Why is that? Are you afraid we may be right?
Now that comment was hilarious! There is not one comment that you have ever made that would cause people to envy you in any way, shape or form. You are what you are….pathetic!!
P.S. The EU IS connected to the church.
@ bernard ross:It
That’s bilge. You’re just covering for yourself, and the clique. You’re a 24-karat fake.
There was no insult in my remark (#7). My insults are always deliberate, never inadvertent.
If you felt ‘insulted’ — on behalf of yourself or anybody else — that’s strictly YOUR problem.
It was directed to Felix, and was quite relevant to his comment.
It IS fact. You are walking evidence; She as well.
@ bernard ross:
Words of envy from a stale fart.
@ yamit82:
It’s not about will, free or otherwise.
It’s about desire.
You conveniently overlook what you don’t wish to see.
She’s meshugge, but that suits your agenda so long as she doesn’t cross you.
@ dove:
@ bernard ross:
Yes, I had seen that lengthy Wikipedia essay many times over the past few years. I’d had several occasions to consult it on my own.
But DOVE did not post it until more than two-&-a-half days AFTER her breezy, unsupported, unreferenced, out-of-left-field post, virtually at the very beginning of the thread [Feb 8], as follows:
“Bad mistake. It’s ok to keep irritating Jews – it will finally drive us to our knees. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. This is their plan as they cozy up with the Vatican. It looks like they can’t do it with the monarchy….so back to basics….ROME. Rome wasn’t built in a day but it could crumble in one!”
Quigley had every right to be incensed by its apparent off-the-wall character; she clearly owes him an apology for having failed to exercise the courtesy of putting herself in a reader’s shoes before she hit “Post”; yet you’re STILL making excuses for her
— and for one reason, and one only: because HER craziness meshes with YOURS, and by your supporting it, she OWES you the same.
dweller Said:
Perhaps this post of hers will help you to understand what she conveyed as relevant to euro christians stalking Jews in YS
https://www.israpundit.org/archives/63602648/comment-page-30#comment-63356000151620
dweller Said:
fresh as the daily bowel movement but the stink is the same
@ bernard ross:
Smart man! My comment was definitely in relevance – sometimes I don’t find it necessary to elaborate.
dweller Said:
the difference was Quigley’s insulting rant, like yours. Neither presented backup for their opinion and I understood both. However, felix proceeded to insults just like you did. Felix made a point which also contained insults whereas your entire post was devoid of any relevance to the article: it was pure opinionated and fraudulent psychobabble. You attempted to present your fabricated irrelevant fiction as fact and preceded it with a narcissistic drum roll and red carpet.
You should be taken to the woodshed and soundly thrashed for your fraudulence. I suggest the chit chat page for your proper punishment 😛
dweller Said:
I recognized he had a point, and agreed with some of it in a later post, while advising that his unsupported opinion had no more value than Doves.
However, YOU had no relevant point,in that post to which I replied, to the subject being discussed. It appears that both Felix and Dove had relevance whereas your only relevance belonged on a psychobabble website or chit chat.
you should conduct future irrelevant psychobabble, proselytizing and insults on chit chat.
here is the link for your convenience:
https://www.israpundit.org/archives/63602648#comments
Bernard Ross Said:
Dunce, I was referring to the relevance to the article subject at han. You had NOT ONE SHRED OF RELEVANCE TO THE SUBJECT IN THAT POST WHICH WAS ENTIRELY COMPOSED OF PSYCHOBABLE, INSULT, NARCISSISM AND OPINIONATED RANT PRESENTED AS FACTUAL
Please point out anything relevant in that post to the subject at hand. Psychobabble and insult are not considered relevant and I advised you to take your irrelevant, psychobabble and insult to the chit chat forum where it belongs.
dweller Said:
unlike your long drawn out bloviation Dove was able to make her point with one word that knoweldegeable people on the subject matter of euro building would immediately understand. Her reference to the Vatican drew attention to the importance of viewing the euro behavior in the context of the history and current behavior of the vatican and supersessionist christianity without which any inveestigation is meaningless. There are 2 other forums at this time dealing with similar issues and she has made relevant posts on them. I immediately understood her point from the one word.
However, you had nothing of relevance!!!!!!!!
just a bloviating opinionated ranter tryng to submit his fairy tales as facts, like this one:
dweller Said:
like I said:
bernard ross Said:
its time to move your opinionated rant to chit chat as Ted rquested
dweller Said:
A- I don’t see it.
B- That would assume free will and you don’t believe in the concept. 😛 😛 😛
dweller Said:
LOL, pot kettle black?????
this ludicrous comment coming from our obssessive, compulsive, narcissistic, paranoid, projectionist, obfuscating, lying, deceiving, “marketing” israpundit site mascot of amusement. Our one and only “emperor with no clothes” transparently strutting his neurotic and psychotic wares for all to see.
this was almost as funny as his last gaffe a couple of posts ago:
bernard ross Said:
bernard ross Said:
here is the reply of the narcissist who preceded his “TRUTH” with a drumroll:
dweller Said:
Gosh, what a surprise, dwellers big fact and truth was simply non existent, just one more opinionated rant punctuated with a psychobabble chaser.
I am surprised he could not conjure up a better retort as he usually does, some sort of rewriting, packaging, red herring, evasion, denial, marketing, etc……
but no, he fed us one more fairy tale, fiction pretending it as fact 😛 😛 😛
@ yamit82:Since
Only when the speaker is not being ironic.
I was.
As you knew quite well.
And she is mad as the March Hare.
Hard to miss it.
If you really don’t see it
— it’s because you truly don’t want to.
dweller Said:
Since insanity and objectivity are oxymoronic, you calling Dov nutburger or any other pejorative name has no substance in truth or fact. If by rare chance you get something right it has to be strictly serendipitous event.
@ dove:I just
You don’t get repetitive rant from me. Most of my stuff is fresh each time.
— I do usually repeat, by way of blockquoting (for the sake of continuity), the remarks, or train of remarks, to which I’m responding — but my OWN remarks in a new post are rarely repetitive.
You must be confusing me with Mr Ross, whose remarks TO me are indeed repetitive, invariably so (often w/ as much as 40% of a post boldfaced).
He seems to have persuaded himself that if he repeats them enough that “everybody” will come to accept them for fact. (Oh, how he longs for that!) What has YET to dawn on him, however, is that the more he repeats them, the smaller the “everybody” becomes.
— Tiresome is as tiresome does. . . .
If so much as half the ‘wackos’ you’ve ever encountered were like me, you’d be eminently sane — instead of the nutburger you most assuredly are.
@ yamit82:Dove
Being called “insane” & “the cretin” by Huff’n’puff is like being called “ugly” by a toad.
Quite so; because wherever I go on this site, I’m sure to be attacked by cretins resorting to psychobabble to DO it.
Actually I get off on seeing you MAKE such claims. It helps clarify & confirm certain things about you that I’d only suspected until now.
What I do see is that you NEED to believe that lame, booby-prize proposition
— but which is no more true than the original one.
But I also see that you don’t.
@ bernard ross:
This is just Mr Ross’s by-now all-too-familiar, self-conscious and anxious but inadvertent acknowledgment that I’ve been consistently right on the money wrt HIS psychological & emotional makeup. He can’t challenge (let alone dispute) a syllable of what I’ve said about HIM, so he tries to deny my perception wrt ANYBODY. But it won’t fly; there isn’t a single observation concerning anybody onsite here about which I’ve been wrong, and I stand by each-&-every such remark in all particulars.
Most of this blogsite’s posting regulars are glaring evidence of it. (The “walking wounded” imagery was right on-target.) You sure as hell are no exception.
If that were the case, then a smear artist like yourself wouldn’t need to do any ‘fitting.’
The only thing about Cinderella that fits is that you are one of her two ugly stepsisters (Huff’n’puff is being other one).
That is NOT what Dove said, however; that’s just your interpolation. Nor did she provide a smidgeon of backup. Here is her post, containing nothing of substance or in any way relevant to the matter at hand (building in Area C) nor referenced to anything material to the subject; utterly off-the-wall. Nor was it supported by anything in the way of evidence:
It had no more back-up to it than Quigley’s post, but did you tear into her as you did Felix for that reason? Of course not. The difference is that she’s part of the clique and he isn’t — and you’re nothing but a sanctimonious hypocrite.
Not as relevant by a country mile. Felix was overreacting, and I alerted him to it, while pointing out Dove’s pathology. Any objective observer would have promptly noted that my observation hit the bullseye.
But your comment here is just one more instance of the clique covering for its own; you’re SO transparent, you could be a walking commercial for bottled water.
What a crock. My post was solid and right on-target, while this comment of yours is sheer PROJECTION. I never stroke anybody, and I don’t have soul mates.
But I do recognize when somebody has a point, and I acknowledge it. Notwithstanding his emotional reaction, Felix DID have a point. You OTOH don’t.
@ yamit82:
Thanks for the beautiful pics! The 3 items you posted above the pics I can’t access. It says FORBIDDEN.
@ dove:
https://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.itsnotbadatall.com%2Fi%2Ffunpic%2FWhy_Hitler_Lost_The_War.jpg&key=JoVGPI1V0aXyxaEDkMxPvg&w=600&h=330
I think you might enjoy these
http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/list/31-insanely-beautiful-pictures-taken-across-israel/
@ yamit82:
No worries. I just don’t need to sift through miles and miles of the same old same old repetitive rant. I know he’s a wacko. It’s not like he’s the first one I’ve ever encountered.
@ dove:
Dove don’t let the cretin get to you. He’s insane!!!!
Where ever dweller treads his psychobabble is sure to follow.
The cretin is a sick soul who projects his own demons and personal beasts on to others. He is so compulsive he can’t comment without raising the specter
He belongs in a straitjacket and a padded cell primed up with Prozac to keep him calm and under control.
He is a total masochist who gets off on pulling our chains.
What he fails to see is it’s we who are pulling his for our own amusement and entertainment. Not very nice but he is deserving.
bernard ross Said:
He is the site clown!!!
FIFY 😛 😛 😛 😛
Dweller OCD prototype
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaTR46iU1Do
@ bernard ross:
This is exactly why I am currently not subscribed to chit chat. Too many psychobabble emails and now they are spilling over to these pages!!! 🙁
dweller Said:
this ludicrous psychobabbler who has NEVER bee right in his comments on the psychological and emotional makeup of others and himself has now followed up his initial bit of psychobabbling rubbish with a psychobabble chaser. This fool submits an argument of psychobabble in support of his initial psychobabble.
😛 😛 😛
bernard ross Said:
dweller Said:
LOL, the man refers to himself in the third person in a classic example of naricissism and support his obvious narcissism by saying he has an: “ADORATION OF THE TRUTH”…
and what is this “TRUTH” of his which he adores and feels the necessity to precede it with pomp and circumstance befitting a narcissist????????
dweller Said:
and what is your evidence upon which you base this statement and the figures you cite?. what is your evidence for this “Dwellers second law…..” which you ascribe to yourself?
Bernard Ross Said:
you repeatedly have demonstrated that what you say is best “fit” with the moniker fairy tales, fiction, novel, novella, BS, etc.
The fairy tale moniker fits as well as Cinderella’s slipper and therefore you should wear it proudly.
Here is your most hilarious comment of your post:
Bernard Ross Said:
😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 LOLOROFLMAO
the most irrelevant poster was you, there was not one thing in that post to which I replied of yours which bore any relevance to the subject at hand. Dove was way more relevant than that post of yours. You post was pure psycho babble, insult, and stroking of your opinionated ranter soul mate Felix,
you were 1000% irrelevant.
Dove referred to something in a couple of words that many of us here already know: the Vaticans swindling of the Jews and the significance of the “church” in evaluation of the euros obssessive behavior of libel, defamation and swindling of israel and the Jews.
The Euros behavior towards Israel and therefore their illegal interference in YS illegal building cannot be fully understood without understanding the history of the church and its insane obsession with the Jews and their insane need to replace the Jews and cause failure of the Jews in Israel. If the Jews succeed in Israel their 2000 year business model is kaput.
Please show me one relevant shred in THAT post of yours here:
https://www.israpundit.org/archives/63604563/comment-page-1#comment-63356000151445
you are becoming the site clown! 😛 😛 😛 😛
@ bernard ross:
Thanks for your input!
@ yamit82:
Amazing how dense you are. You remind me of Justin Martyr, first of the non-Jewish theologians of Xty. Because of his intense partisanship he was incapable of realizing that the sins of Israel so frequently laid out in Nevi’im & Torah were in no way peculiar to the Jews; that all that was truly peculiar to them concerning their shortcomings was a willingness (unheard of elsewhere in antiquity) to actually state them in writing.
EVERYBODY is that little boy, blockhead.
What’s most revealing here is that you would assume that
— since you’ve rather obviously done NOTHING as yet to deal with the problem the fable describes. You carry the beast around inside you. Or more accurately stated: the beast carries YOU around from within you.
Truth is, my ‘stories’ reveal EVERY man’s inner self.
Most men will go to the grave with the beast still inside them — they will be driven to the grave BY the beast inside them.
But not before they’ve passed on the beast to their children
— just as it was passed on to them by THEIR fathers.
@ bernard ross:
No. Actually, Dove has made crystal clear that she is projecting her history & its implications onto what she writes on this site. She’s talked of her background numerous times, and the connection is impossible to miss, except for the clique of walking wounded around here, whose members-in-good-standing — like Ross — can’t afford to see it. So they act as ENABLERS for her (and each others’) mishegasse, and they gladly return the ‘favor.’
QTC: A man in adoration of the truth.
No meaning in it for a dead soul — so you can go back to sleep.
I’m not the one who tells fairy tales. Ross is the one who tries to fit WHAT I SAY INTO FAIRY TALES.
It was Dove’s post that was TRULY irrelevant; Felix simply overreacted to it.
But you wouldn’t tell HER that her post was irrelevant
— a fact which tells us plenty about YOU.
yamit82 Said:
I think he will seek more center votes but form a coalition with benett mainly because I think bennet will give BB a better deal. The left will probably want a rotating PM whereas Bennett may settle for ministerial controls. Bennett does not strike me as seeking the PM position.
I think the weakness of the 3 stooges of livni, Herzog and lapdog is that they can be easily portrayed to be stooges beholden to foreign govs as everything they say is an echo of foreign govs positions.
My election campaign would be:
A VOTE FOR THE 3 STOOGES IS A VOTE FOR OBAMA AS PM OF ISRAEL
or
A VOTE FOR THE 3 STOOGES IS A VOTE FOR OBAMA//MOGHERINI AS PM OF ISRAEL
either way I would hammer them as foreign stooges parroting their handlers in the media
yamit82 Said:
LOLROFLMAO 😛 😛 😛
Comments in moderation one to Bernard Ross
bernard ross Said:
You are correct and tha’t our problem there is little to no difference between BB/Likud and the left except political posturing and rhetoric. In the end same results. That’s why under our system it’s important to support every party to the right of the likud even if they are ideologicall imperfect. BB if he forms a government will try to bring in Labor and Lapid to strengthen him against the right and will succeed unless the parties to his right are necessary to one allow him to first form a coalition government and he needs their recommendations and secondly that the parties to his right must be strong in mandates close to the Likuds strength. Then BB will have no choice but to include them in his coalition. BB as PM must be shackled by parties to his right. That requires a weak Likud and BB and strong right wing ideological partners on the right.
dweller Said:
More autobigraphical dweller psychobabble!!!
So you were that little boy and the consequence of your childhood experience with the imaginary beast caused you to continue to invent narratives so outlandish to normal rational beings to invent a protective narrative about gods shtuppping virginal Jewish maidens so she could poop out savior messiahs to protect you from that nasty beast out to get ya…. Pathetic or just innane and insane patholgy of dweller???? Your stories are quite revealing of your inner self…But
” Veritas vos liberabit”
You are in fact the Beast!!!!
dweller Said:
More autobigraphical dweller psychobabble!!!
So you were that little boy and the consequence of your childhood experience with the imaginary beast caused you to continue to invent narratives so outlandish to normal rational beings to invent a protective narrative about gods shtuppping virginal Jewish maidens so she could poop out savior messiahs to protect you from that nasty beast out to get ya…. Pathetic or just innane and insane patholgy of dweller???? Your stories are quite revealing of your inner self…But ” Veritas vos liberabit”
Felix Quigley Said:
I do not disagree with your opinion or advice to Israel but it has no more value than the opinion of any other poster. Doves allusion to vatican machinations is held also by others who appear to have done research to arrive at that conclusion. Therefore, if you intend to discredit her submission then you should state more than an opinionated rant to be considered more than a political t**d yourself as you accuse her.
Ted Belman Said:
Why should Israel be afraid of such a suit when there is no jurisdiction which allows illegal building without permits? That is not a viable threat, it must be something else.
Ted Belman Said:
It appears to me that the crux of the matter is that the government of Israel may not be in opposition to their building. Certainly there has been no serious attempt to thwart it on any level: executive, legislative, diplomatic, PR, etc. I doubt that BB will follow up on demolishing EU buildings. I think it is a big mistake to allow foreign govs to operate with illegal impunity in Israel.
I think that one of the main issues detrimental to livni, herzog and lapdog is that they are stooges of foreign govs and that a vote for any of those 3 stooges is a de facto vote for Obama as PM of Israel. However, BB is demonstrating that he may also be a foreign stooge with his repeated practice of announcements without follow through.
dweller Said:
Dwellers usual psychobabble based on nothing but his opinionated rants just like quigley. Two opinionated ranters finding eac other like soul mates.
this is how dweller explains those who disagree with him
dweller Said:
a reaction which explains disagreement with conspiracy, HMMM?
dweller Said:
a man in adoration of himself… delusions of self importance?
dweller Said:
dweller tells quigley a bedtime story full of “meaning”. He has been telling us similar fairy tales at chit chat. In fact, insulting and irrelevant posts such as quigleys and Dwellers should be conducted on chit chat. here is the link to chit chat:
https://www.israpundit.org/archives/63602648#comments
you are both very welcome to attend… 🙂
Felix Quigley Said to Dove:
You are apparently describing yourself. a case of pot, kettle, black. You had to run away the last time you came here spouting your unsupported rubbish without nary a murmur in reply to my factual rebuttal of your ludicrous opinionated post. As a trotskyite socialist one would expect that you give historical and scientific support for your assertions but it is rare that we see that from you. I still have not heard a reply from you to when I last exposed you to ridicule. You often insult posters here but appear to run away when getting your own just dessert; stay out of the kitchen if you cant take the heat.
Felix Quigley Said:
do you submit this as an intelligent political argument for anything? it appears that YOU are the one who is a complete t**d for representing yourself fraudulently as an intelligent poster with actual arguments when all you ever submit are opinionated rants masquerading as rational argument. Look back at your post and see if you can find anything in it other than an opinionated rant. You have made NO political arguments here based on anything other than your opinion.
@ Felix Quigley:
Bingo! I wouldn’t expect an Irish Catholic to get it! You should know what is going on behind the scenes. Educate yourself!
I spoke with Ari Briggs who runs Regevim. He tells me that the Court has already ruled that Israel can’t demolish illegal buildings unless Israel provides an alternate location. That location can’t be in A or B. But the planned community in Area C of 2000 dunam just North of Jericho called Ramat Nueimah fits the bill. It is a new town for about 10,000 Bedouin living in the Jordan valley. Israel prefers to round them up into a new town rather than have them spread all over the valley.
He also said:
@ Felix Quigley:
Take it easy, old boy. She’s just fighting old demons from the home front by projecting them onto a political canvas, and this site and its regulars have made themselves congenial to her psychodrama (along w/ several other ones which have similarly attached themselves to it).
I fear you’ve stumbled across another walking testimony to the truth of dweller’s Second Law of Political Troubleshooting:
— “Seventy percent of what passes for politics in this world is in fact PATHOLOGY seeking a political outlet; i.e., it is pathology masquerading as ‘politics’. (In some circles, that figure is closer to ninety percent.)”
Once upon a time, as a little boy slept, a monster crept into his room, and the closer he came to the child’s bedside, the more the boy’s terror grew. As the Beast leaned over the bed, the little one reached out to claw at it, in desperate hopes of keeping it at bay. With time the creature disappeared, the boy became a man and the fear was forgotten. But the Beast did not die. You see, when the boy had reached out to claw at the Beast, the creature’s cells got in under the boy’s fingernails. And grew silently with him as HE grew.
Now the Beast was in him. . . .and now he had children of his own.
Dove writes:
What is all that about? You will travel long and far before you hear such inconsequential nonsense.
Most people not privy to your lingo won’t have a clue what you are on about!
Speak plain Engish woman!
The issue here is Netanyahu funking (Fxxxxxg) it.
The buildings are illegal. Dismantle them. Attack the EU in every way possible and especially propaganda wise.
A great chance actually for Israel and the Jews.
Then these Doves step in with their utter crap guff! Clear out the Doves and have Israelis start speaking plain language
People like this so “pious” Dove make me sick. She may be so pious but politically she is a complete t..d!
@ Topaz:
Say, “please”?
If the buildings are illegal, then it can’t be illegal, can it, to use the logo for target practice, at close range (especially before a building is actually occupied)?
And once the logo’d been obliterated, there’d no longer be a reason to let the building remain standing; right?
Hypothetically speaking, of course. . . .
So, why does it take a European to say what the Israeli leadership should say and do. Why have these long explanation. Israel was created so that Jews would no longer HAVE TO BE VICTIMIZED. Just say NO. The fatal mistake is to keep trying to reason with and placate the EU, etc. How do you convince a Nazi to play nice.
Bad mistake. It’s ok to keep irritating Jews – it will finally drive us to our knees. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. This is their plan as they cozy up with the Vatican. It looks like they can’t do it with the monarchy….so back to basics….ROME. Rome wasn’t built in a day but it could crumble in one!
In Israel, is possession 9/10 of the law?