Rebel Arms Flow Is Said to Benefit Jihadists in Syria

At least the NYT went this far but it is wrong to assume that Obama’s intention is to strengthen the democratic forces. It is in fact intended to strengthen the MB. That’s why he put Islamist Turkey and pro-Hamas Qatar in charge. Ted Belman

By DAVID E. SANGER, NYT

WASHINGTON — Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster, according to American officials and Middle Eastern diplomats.

That conclusion, of which President Obama and other senior officials are aware from classified assessments of the Syrian conflict that has now claimed more than 25,000 lives, casts into doubt whether the White House’s strategy of minimal and indirect intervention in the Syrian conflict is accomplishing its intended purpose of helping a democratic-minded opposition topple an oppressive government, or is instead sowing the seeds of future insurgencies hostile to the United States.

“The opposition groups that are receiving the most of the lethal aid are exactly the ones we don’t want to have it,” said one American official familiar with the outlines of those findings, commenting on an operation that in American eyes has increasingly gone awry.

The United States is not sending arms directly to the Syrian opposition. Instead, it is providing intelligence and other support for shipments of secondhand light weapons like rifles and grenades into Syria, mainly orchestrated from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The reports indicate that the shipments organized from Qatar, in particular, are largely going to hard-line Islamists.

The assessment of the arms flows comes at a crucial time for Mr. Obama, in the closing weeks of the election campaign with two debates looming that will focus on his foreign policy record. But it also calls into question the Syria strategy laid out by Mitt Romney, his Republican challenger.

In a speech at the Virginia Military Institute last Monday, Mr. Romney said he would ensure that rebel groups “who share our values” would “obtain the arms they need to defeat Assad’s tanks, helicopters and fighter jets.” That suggests he would approve the transfer of weapons like antiaircraft and antitank systems that are much more potent than any the United States has been willing to put into rebel hands so far, precisely because American officials cannot be certain who will ultimately be using them.

But Mr. Romney stopped short of saying that he would have the United States provide those arms directly, and his aides said he would instead rely on Arab allies to do it. That would leave him, like Mr. Obama, with little direct control over the distribution of the arms.

American officials have been trying to understand why hard-line Islamists have received the lion’s share of the arms shipped to the Syrian opposition through the shadowy pipeline with roots in Qatar, and, to a lesser degree, Saudi Arabia. The officials, voicing frustration, say there is no central clearinghouse for the shipments, and no effective way of vetting the groups that ultimately receive them.

Those problems were central concerns for the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, David H. Petraeus, when he traveled secretly to Turkey last month, officials said.

The C.I.A. has not commented on Mr. Petraeus’s trip, made to a region he knows well from his days as the Army general in charge of Central Command, which is responsible for all American military operations in the Middle East. Officials of countries in the region say that Mr. Petraeus has been deeply involved in trying to steer the supply effort, though American officials dispute that assertion.

One Middle Eastern diplomat who has dealt extensively with the C.I.A. on the issue said that Mr. Petraeus’s goal was to oversee the process of “vetting, and then shaping, an opposition that the U.S. thinks it can work with.” According to American and Arab officials, the C.I.A. has sent officers to Turkey to help direct the aid, but the agency has been hampered by a lack of good intelligence about many rebel figures and factions.

Another Middle Eastern diplomat whose government has supported the Syrian rebels said his country’s political leadership was discouraged by the lack of organization and the ineffectiveness of the disjointed Syrian opposition movement, and had raised its concerns with American officials. The diplomat, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was discussing delicate intelligence issues, said the various rebel groups had failed to assemble a clear military plan, lacked a coherent blueprint for governing Syria afterward if the Assad government fell, and quarreled too often among themselves, undercutting their military and political effectiveness.

“We haven’t seen anyone step up to take a leadership role for what happens after Assad,” the diplomat said. “There’s not much of anything that’s encouraging. We should have lowered our expectations.”

The disorganization is strengthening the hand of Islamic extremist groups in Syria, some with ties or affiliations with Al Qaeda, he said: “The longer this goes on, the more likely those groups will gain strength.”

American officials worry that, should Mr. Assad be ousted, Syria could erupt afterward into a new conflict over control of the country, in which the more hard-line Islamic groups would be the best armed. That depends on what happens in the arms bazaar that has been feeding the rebel groups. In several towns along the Turkey-Syria border, rebel commanders can be found seeking weapons and meeting with shadowy intermediaries, in a chaotic atmosphere where the true identities and affiliations of any party can be extremely difficult to ascertain.

Late last month in the Turkish border town of Antakya, at least two men who had recently been in Syria said they had seen Islamist rebels buying weapons in large quantities and then burying them in caches, to be used after the collapse of the Assad government. But it was impossible to verify these accounts, and other rebels derided the reports as wildly implausible.

Moreover, the rebels often adapt their language and appearance in ways they hope will appeal to those distributing weapons. For instance, many rebels have grown the long, scraggly beards favored by hard-line Salafi Muslims after hearing that Qatar was more inclined to give weapons to Islamists.

The Saudis and Qataris are themselves relying on intermediaries — some of them Lebanese — who have struggled to make sense of the complex affiliations of the rebels they deal with.

“We’re trying to improve the process,” said one Arab official involved in the effort to provide small arms to the rebels. “It is a very complex situation in Syria, but we are learning.”

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  1. @ yamit82:
    No warm and fuzzy feelings where her heart should be, that’s for sure. Her grandson Harry was causing a bit of trouble so she sent him to the fire zone in Afghanistan. No need to ask why. ~~ Yes, I suppose she could make an interesting military leader. She would take no prisoners. 🙂

  2. The DUH! FACTOR in Israeli politics, defense, etc.
    While the following news report concerns the southern border, it calls attention to the DUH! FACTOR that afflicts Israeli authorities and that baffles so many observers. DUH! solutions to major problems exist, but they seem beyond the government’s grasp. ~~~ For example, I have always wondered why the electronic age has not reached some particular sectors of defense and security in Israel. Any homeowner in this neck of the woods can set up a security sensor around his property. But Israel leaves its borders unprotected. Why? ~~~ OK, one has to give credit to Israeli law enforcers who catch in seconds any 10 year old Jew who sprays anti-Arab graffiti on a wall. But they never seem to catch Arab gangs who attack motorists, or those who desecrate Mount of Olives, or terrorists who slip across the border into Israel. How strange! Maybe sensors, drones and other high-tech devices used in Israel don’t work when trying to catch non-Jews. ~~~ Anyway, I’m so thrilled to announce that 20th century technology is now about to reach parts of the desolate borders of Israel:

    Military deploys sophisticated sensor system along fence. Deployment moved up following increase in Sinai-based terror threats. The new measures aim to boost security along 40km of the fence, especially those stretching along the volatile Dune sector, which is considered one for the most dangerous parts of the border. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4292358,00.html

    One question remains: why didn’t anyone in authority regard the close to 100,000 Africans crossing into Israel as a serious threat? But that’s another story.

  3. But Mr. Romney stopped short of saying that he would have the United States provide those arms directly, and his aides said he would instead rely on Arab allies to do it. That would leave him, like Mr. Obama, with little direct control over the distribution of the arms.

    American officials have been trying to understand why hard-line Islamists have received the lion’s share of the arms shipped to the Syrian opposition through the shadowy pipeline with roots in Qatar, and, to a lesser degree, Saudi Arabia. The officials, voicing frustration, say there is no central clearinghouse for the shipments, and no effective way of vetting the groups that ultimately receive them.

    We never learn. There are no muslims who share our values and we should not be arming them. We should count our blessings that muslims are fighting each other indefinitely and stay out of it.

  4. “These people ARE VIOLENCE. They routinely massacre each other, what other proof do you need? And they have a history of hating and killing Jews.”

    Well said, Canadian Otter.

  5. NEWSFLASH – Syrian refugees to be taken in by Israel. In the absence of an effective asylum polcy, the country is now open to all Muslims and anyone at all. Thanks to Jewish leadership incompetence, nothing will stop the hordes from seeking asylum in Israel, the country with porous and flexible borders, and where authorities hate Jews and embrace non-Jews.

    Israel Preparing for Flood of Syrian Refugees – The IDF is preparing to absorb a potential flood of Syrian refugees and prevent a spillover of violence into Israel. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/160905

    “To prevent a spillover of violence”? And the govt says that with a straight face. These people ARE VIOLENCE. They routinely massacre each other, what other proof do you need? And they have a history of hating and killing Jews. Will there be any sign of outrage by Israelis? Will they do something about it?