Protocals of the Elders of Medecine

By Nachman Kanovsky

It was the best of times. It may become the worst of times. My objective in the following brief essay is not to regurgitate the alarms and clichés which we are constantly inundated with pertaining to this novel corona virus pandemic. What for? I’m sure you’ve heard enough. There is however an aspect of this pandemic which is either being hidden or downplayed by much of the media and by our governments, both federal and state. Weeks before the federal government began shutting down the country in early March, reports were seeping through about an existing drug, hydroxychloroquine, as being effective against the corona virus, especially when taken in combination with the common antibiotic, azithromycin. While none of the reports stated that those results emanated from classical double blind testing, they were sufficiently encouraging to allow the possibility that this pandemic can be short-lived.

When in history did an epidemic break out together with its potential cure? There was an explicit video of a doctor in Orange County NY who reported nearly 100% effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin given to hundreds of his patients.  The viral disease specialist from France, who first reported success with that drug combination back in January, had subsequently reported identical successes with much larger sampling.  Other doctors were confirming similar results but interestingly – and frustratingly – one had to scour the media and the internet to readily locate these reports. Why?

By mid-March, New York State, apparently with some foot-dragging, agreed to test the drug combination with around 10,000 doses. The Trump administration hinted at the possibility of a new direction in the progression of our counter-measures against the virus more than a week ago. This would have come approximately a week after the 10,000 doses would have been given and their results could have been evaluated.  Eight days later, no new direction was announced. On the contrary, at the daily presidential press conference, Dr. Fauci in a response to direct question about hydroxychloroquine stated that the drug is not yet “FDA clinically approved.” He was ostensibly referring to the usual FDA protocols where final approvals for any drug also involves double blind tests which obviously weren’t yet done in a pandemic situation. Which doctor would knowingly give a placebo to an ailing patient facing potential death?

This country, and the world, is facing a catastrophe. This economic certainty extends well beyond the financial realm and includes physical, mental, and sociological ramifications as well as other disastrous probabilities. With these looming eventualities, our governments have correctly implemented all sorts of emergency measures to counter this scourge. No one questions the need for hospital beds, gowns, masks, and the like. Mostly everyone applauds government’s reduction of the usual regulations to get medications and vaccines into play. But there is something missing in the direction we’re going. Vaccines are at least a year away, and they don’t cure those who contracted the disease. New medicines require safety and dosage testing in addition to the double-blind protocols. The reality is that even if any new medicine does acquire FDA approval in record time – which will be at least months – we will face the near certainty of having a “successful operation… but the patient will have died.”

We have medications today, i.e. hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, whose safety and dosages are well-known and established, but their off-label use for the coronavirus has still not passed all the FDA protocols.  Moreover, hydroxychloroquine has also shown great promise as a prophylactic, similar to a vaccine. Why has not our government ordered mass manufacturing and distribution of these drugs and made them available to any physician wishing to dispense them for treatment of the coronavirus? Are not these drugs are far easier and quicker to produce than ventilators? In these critical times why aren’t these medicines available to administer to all seniors and other susceptible persons, and to anyone who shows any symptoms of the disease? Such usage should not necessarily require hospitalization either. Instead, various states including New York, New Jersey, and California have imposed restrictions on the use of these drugs. It makes no sense other than its being a suicidal submission to the usual medical protocols. Should we cheer when we hear in the daily briefings about our advancement in the testing procedures and the “granularity” of the models and charts our experts are basing their policies on? Last time I checked, testing doesn’t cure anything. There is more than sufficient evidence from around the world that these well-established medications work. That is where our emphasis should be placed – not on a religious subservience to protocols only applicable and appropriate in otherwise healthy times. Our country is already in the “right to try” condition. What can we possibly lose more than we already are?

 

April 4, 2020 | 62 Comments »

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  1. @ Bear Klein:

    Cuomo just approved its use provided Trump supplies NYS with enough product so normal users will not be denied their meds. Claims feedback from hospitals positive so far.

  2. @ Shmuel Mohalever:

    “https://www.facebook.com/FakeNewsMedia/. Blogger thinks doctors tied in with Big Pharma, are faking pandemic to help BP sell vaccines, medicines.”

    Typical eternal left wing conspiracy theories. It is so pathetic!

  3. In the above video line (see my above comment) the doctor says anyone he has prescribed hydroxychloroquine with zinc to has gotten better in 8 to 12 hours. He prescribes this to only very sick patients.

  4. LA doctor seeing success with hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19

    LA Doctor finding promising results with with hydroxychloroquine with zinc.

    Dr. Anthony Cardillo, CEO of Mend Urgent Care, has seen promising results prescribing hydroxychloroquine with zinc for the most severely-ill COVID-19 patients. Video explains issues with surge and how hospitals are coping with Covid-19.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/watch/la-doctor-seeing-success-with-hydroxychloroquine-to-treat-covid-19/vi-BB12cHSs

  5. Now Ted, is of trashing stuff on purpose because I disagreed? Another conspiracy theory. How does that work when my stuff gets trashed?

    Paranoid or Delusional theories. Quite the drama! Or not really!

    Anyway everyone can read for themselves and decide for themselves. So is Covid-19 an actual disease. My reading from the experts is that it is. I do not believe it’s source is one of the many conspiracies that some have floated without any proof.

  6. The FDA has approved the use of these drugs only for patients hospitalized with thte novel coronavirus. And it has only authorized the use of those drugs that are sent directly to hospitals from the National Strategic Stockpile, not when sent to hospitals by any private company, nonprofit organization, etc. This means that only a very small number of patients will be allowed to receive the drug.

  7. Ted, please authorize publication of my most recent post of a few minutes ago, which quotes from the FDA’s Letter of Authorization.

  8. This is from the same Letter of Authorization for Emergency Use: “I am authorizing use of the following chloroquine phosphate product distributed from the SNS to public health authorities :
    • Chloroquine phosphate that is not approved by FDA for any indication.7
    • The chloroquine phosphate must be administered by a healthcare provider pursuant to a
    valid prescription of a licensed practitioner.
    • The chloroquine phosphate may only be used to treat adult and adolescent patients who weigh 50 kg or more and are hospitalized with COVID-19, for whom a clinical trial is not available, or participation is not feasible.8” This is from the same Letter of Authorization for Emergency Use by the director of the FDA. It is made clear the authorization is only for limited use for some hospitalized patients, not people who have tested positive for SARS-CoV19-2 at home. And it authorizes use of these drugs only when sent to hospitals from the National Strategic Stockpile, not any other source or private company.

  9. This is from the FDA website, not the Wall Street Journal: “Chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate are not FDA-approved for treatment of COVID-19.”https://www.fda.gov/media/136534/download

  10. Some good news. Check out the graphs here in the “logarighmic” mode:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    The curves are starting to bend, showing that the spread of the virus may be starting to slow. If a new hump starts, though, because of all those Spring Breakers coming home with the virus, we’re into more trouble.

  11. @ Shmuel Mohalever: Thanks for publishing all of this documentation that I found on the FDA site, which makes clear. that the FDA has authorized only very limited use of these drugs to treat SARS-Co19-2.

    I apologize for accusing you of deliberately trashing my replies because Bear disagreed with them. Bear, Reader, Michael and others have now also complained that the appearance of their posts was delayed. So obviously you weren’t targeting me or trying to cut off discussion.

    The crisis, which has imposed demoralizing restrictions on us old folks in Orange County, NY, and the atmosphere of fear and depression that pervade my apartment building, have frayed my nerves, and may have caused me to lose my temper for no reason. I have no wife or children to shout at!

  12. @ Shmuel Mohalever:
    “I wonder who he [Fauci] is working for?”
    I saw an article online which stated that Fauci is paid by Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
    I didn’t post it because I don’t like this guy (Peter Koenig – an “anti-Zionist”) but this doesn’t mean that he is wrong in this instance.
    Bill and Melinda Gates have two psychoses – overpopulation and vaccination (of course, they themselves have 3 children, I guess for multi billionaires it’s OK to have as many children as they want).
    Not many people know this but anti-viral vaccinations can cause miscarriage and even infertility.
    Humans really shouldn’t be playing with this stuff just because they have lots of money to do what they want. They may end human life on Earth through their ignorant experiments.

  13. @ Bear Klein:
    Bear,

    I don’t know exactly how this bears upon the NY and WA situations, but it seems MI has also gotten into the non-act:

    “Michigan regulators warn against prescribing anti-malaria drugs for virus
    Detroit News staff and wire reports Published 10:06 p.m. ET March 24, 2020 | Updated 4:02 p.m. ET March 25, 2020”
    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/03/24/michigan-lara-prescribing-doctors-malaria-drugs-virus/2913567001/

    I have seen Pres.Trump promoting hydroxychloroquinone at one of his briefings, with -zero- support from his team. It made him look like someone trying to sell Shaklee products to his family, seemingly a conflict between him and Deep Med.

    This Virus has by far struck “blue” counties that opposed Donald Trump in 2016. The hardest hit, by far, are (death rate per million in parantheses):

    New York State (183)
    New Jersey (95)
    Louisiana, mainly Democrat New Orleans (80)
    Michigan, mainly Democrat Detroit (54)
    Washington State (41)
    Connecticut (46)
    Vermont (32)
    Cook Co., IL (32)
    Massachusetts (31)
    Colorado (22)
    Santa Clara Co., CA (20)

    It almost makes one think God has been partisan in dealing out this plague.

    BTW for comparison, Israel had about 5 deaths per million so far.

  14. @ Shmuel Mohalever:
    “The people that have put this psyop together are brilliant.”
    I’ve noticed that the so-called “brilliant” people tend to vastly overestimate the stupidity of the “herd”.
    I am hoping this will turn out to be the case this time also, and we the “herd” will have a good laugh.
    They are not gods, they’ll slip.

  15. HHS said Germany’s Sandoz has already given 30 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to the Strategic National Stockpile, the federal government’s inventory of medical supplies for public health emergencies, while Bayer has donated a million doses of chloroquine.

    The agency is fast-tracking a process that usually takes years while the FDA conducts clinical trials in New York, a hot spot for the virus.
    HHS said the emergency authorization was issued because the potential benefits of the product outweigh the risks and acknowledged that “anecdotal reports suggest that these drugs may offer some benefit in the treatment of hospitalized COVID-19 patients,” but cautioned that “clinical trials are needed to provide scientific evidence that these treatments are effective.”

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/30/fda-approves-anti-malarial-drugs-chloroquine-and-hydroxychloroquine-for-emergency-coronavirus-treatment/#aed814b5e5d1

  16. Many other pharmaceutical companies besides Teva (Bayer for one) have donated the malaria drugs in quantities of millions of tablets. So there are currently tablets available. The FDA has allowed for emergency usage for adults and teenagers.

  17. FDA is allowing certain usage of the malaria drug listed in great detail see FDA letter I attached to my first comment in this stream of comments.

    Teva, the giant Israeli pharmaceutical company, has announced that it will donate more than six million doses of hydroxychloroquine sulfate tablets through wholesalers to hospitals across the United States, starting March 31.

    Over 10 million tablets are expected to be shipped within a month.

  18. Now one that posted was trashed plus another new comment trashed.

    Need new drug for comment trashings.

  19. Excitement around hydroxychloroquine for treating COVID-19

    The findings have prompted many, including US President Donald Trump, to tout hydroxychloroquine as a game-changer in the fight against COVID-19. The US Food and Drug Administration has designated hydroxychloroquine for off-label, compassionate use for treating COVID-19, and WHO added the drug to its large global SOLIDARITY trial to test a variety of potential treatments.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanrhe/article/PIIS2665-9913(20)30089-8/fulltext

  20. Ted, I do not know if you are still awake but more of comments are getting trashed. Your system has a real issue. Does it have a CoronaVirus or just a computer programming error?

  21. Teva Israeli drug manufacturer (very large company) is donating to the USA 10 million tablets of hydroxychloroquine for FREE!

    I do not know if they have shipped yet? They were in stock.

  22. On March 28, 2020, the FDA issued an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to allow hydroxychloroquine sulfate and chloroquine phosphate products donated to the Strategic National Stockpile(SNS) to be distributed and used for certain hospitalized patients with COVID-19. These drugs will be distributed from the SNS to states for doctors to prescribe to adolescent and adult patients hospitalized with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not available or feasible. The EUA requires that fact sheets that provide important information about using chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate in treating COVID-19 be made available to health care providers and patients, including the known risks and drug interactions. The SNS, managed by ASPR, will work with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to ship donated doses to states.

  23. @ nachmank:Bear is wrong in saying that the FDA has approved the use of this drug. They have only authroized the use of very small quantities of it in some emergency situations, by a very small number of health providers. There has been no general authorization.

  24. @ nachmank:

    Should not be in NY. See NY state order.

    New York:Executive Order from Gov.Andrew Cuomo restricting dispensing:•Bans pharmacists from dispensing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine except:

    oWhen written as prescribed for aUS Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved indication; oro

    As part of a state approved clinical trial related to COVID-19 for a patient who has tested positive for COVID-19?Positive COVID-19 test result must be documented as part of the prescription.•
    Prohibits use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for experimental or prophylactic use.•

    Any permitted prescription is limited to one 14-day prescription with no refills.

    See .pdf attached for orders from multiple states

    https://nashp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/State-covid-drug-chart-3-27-2020.pdf

  25. @ Shmuel Mohalever:

    Obviously I agree with your sentiments. I didn’t want to get into the political and possible conspiratorial angle in my essay because I wanted the overriding point, i.e., a slavish adherence to standard medical protocols, to stand out. That, however, doesn’t preclude any of your points.

  26. Ted, you have trashed all of replies in which I rebutted the misinformation in Bear’s Posts. Israpundit’s reader have a right to know the truth, which is that that FDA has not approved the use of this drug to treat COVID-19, except in a very small number of cases. Your readers have a right to know this. Bear should not be allowed to censor replies to his misinformation.

  27. Chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate are not FDA-approved for treatment of COVID-19. Some versions of chloroquine phosphate are approved by FDA
    Several versions of hydroxychloroquine sulfate are approved by FDA for prophylaxis of and treatment of malaria, treatment of lupus erythematosus, and treatment of
    rheumatoid arthritis. The safety profile of these drugs has only been studied for FDA approved indications, not COVID-19.
    Based upon limited in-vitro and anecdotal clinical data in case series, chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate are currently recommended for treatment of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in several countries, and a number of national guidelines report incorporating recommendations regarding use of chloroquine phosphate or hydroxychloroquine sulfate in the setting of COVID-19. FDA encourages the conduct and participation in randomized controlled clinical trials that may produce evidence concerning the effectiveness of these products in treating COVID-19. FDA is issuing this EUA to facilitate the availability of chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate during the COVID-19 pandemic to treat patients for whom a clinical trial is not available, or participation is not feasible.
    Having concluded that the criteria for issuance of this authorization under 564(c) of the Act are met, I am authorizing the emergency use of chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate, as described in the Scope of Authorization section of this letter (Section II) for treatment of COVID-19 when clinical trials are not available, or participation is not feasible, subject to the terms of this authorization.
    Clinical trial data results, and any information derived from clinical trials, as well as clinical trial results from studies of other investigational medical products to treat COVID-19, will continue to inform this risk benefit assessment.
    I. Criteria for Issuance of Authorization
    I have concluded that the emergency use of chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate for the treatment of COVID-19 when administered as described in the Scope of Authorization (section II) meet the criteria for issuance of an authorization under Section 564(c) of the Act, because:
    formally designated as Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19). This document uses the updated names.
    4 U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Determination of a Public Health Emergency and Declaration that Circumstances Exist Justifying Authorizations Pursuant to Section 564(b) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, 21 U.S.C. § 360bbb-3. February 4, 2020.
    5 U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Declaration that Circumstances Exist Justifying Authorizations Pursuant to Section 564(b) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, 21 U.S.C. § 360bbb-3. March 27, 2020.
    indications—for prophylaxis and acute attacks of certain strains of malaria and for the treatment
    for other {types of]
    of extraintestinal amebiasis, but the chloroquine phosphate drug product covered by this letter [has not been approved]” The FDA authorization letter.

  28. “The authorized chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate are limited to product supplied from the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) to public health authorities2, pursuant to Section 564 of the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act (the Act) (21 U.S.C. 360bbb-3).” The FDA authorization letter.

  29. Actually, the FDA has approved only the use of supplies from Strategic National Stockpile for treating coronavirus. Since the National Stockpile is almost out of its supplies of this drug, this is definitely not authorization for its widespread use. It also says it may only be used with the authorization of state, local and municipal authorities who have been authorized to administer the National Emergency Regulations by the Department of Health, and only in those localities where thorough “double blind” tests of the drug’s effectivness are not feasible. It restates that the drug remains forbidden for use by any other medical providers under any other circumstances, and from any other source other than National Strategic Stockpile. This is not a general authorization of the drug for use treatingCOVID-19. In practice, very few people diagnosed with COVID-19 will be able to be treated with this drug.

  30. The article has a at least one Massive error in it. The FDA has approved hydroxychloroquine for use against Covid-19. See attached approval on FDA letterhead. https://www.fda.gov/media/136534/download

    NY State had previously put a ban on this for off label use ( I am not certain if this in still in effect). Washington State had also done this.

  31. “There are several goals the powers that be can accomplish with Covid-19. As I have written before, the few that control the many want to destroy the world economy so that they can introduce a more efficient global monetary system. This will probably include a digital currency product that will remove physical cash from the equation.

    Another prominent goal is to reinforce the big pharma paradigm that human beings cannot survive without vaccines and plenty of suppressive drug therapies that are designed to weaken human immunity.

    The current pandemic will create a culture of extremely germaphobic people. Social distancing and the constant fear of recurring infections in the future are being instilled in the psyche of the world’s population. And if people think that Covid-19 will be the last viral threat to come around, think again. The powers that be will be rolling out false flag viruses every year. A Covid-19 vaccine is already waiting in the shadows and will be introduced in time for the fall season when the coronavirus has been predicted to reinfect the population. ” from nofakenews.net

  32. ” I have maintained from the beginning that Covid-19 was designed by a team of talented writers. I believe the creative staff decided to invent a fictional coronavirus as their villain because coronaviruses are commonly encountered by most people worldwide. A lot of the world’s population is regularly challenged by coronaviruses (common colds) and therefore have coronavirus DNA inside their bodies. Because this is true, a lot of the world’s population will always test positive for different coronaviruses in a laboratory setting. This key component has always been an integral part of the psyop.

    You need lots of positive lab tests throughout the world to pull off a fake viral pandemic. Positive lab tests equate to patient case numbers. Lots of patient case numbers worldwide can create the illusion of a global pandemic. And that’s what we have today, the misperception by a majority of the people that a vast health crisis exists.

    The people that have put this psyop together are brilliant. They have the world locked down and hiding from an imaginary microbial invader. And when everything is said and done, they will have accomplished what the powers that be have wanted to achieve all along; to have more control over the herd. They want to create a new world order.” From nofakenews.net

  33. Ted, please detrash the post I just published recommending a blog about fake medical news to our readers.

  34. I recommend https://nofakenews.net to our readers. This is a blog that argues , as I have done without even knowing about this blog, that the novel coronavirus is a fake. The blogger says that the immediate purpose is assure a large market for the coronavirus they are working on, and intend to have ready for the fall flu season. However, the larger purpose, he maintains, in to reinforce the public’s dependence on the many drugs and vaccines manufacured by Big Pharma, by creating a permanent mindset of fear about one’s health. He predicts that this scare will be followed by others every year.

  35. @ Reader: An interesting hypothesis. Not long ago, there was a governor of Colorado named Lamm who talked about how elderly sick people had a “duty to die.” A lot of hospital administrators at that time (was it in the 1990s? I’m not sure) made the same argument.

  36. “In these critical times why aren’t these medicines available to administer to all seniors and other susceptible persons, and to anyone who shows any symptoms of the disease?”
    To be able to kill off as many as possible old “useless eaters” who collect Social Security, and other weaker members of society? That’s one hypothesis.
    Only the fittest survive, you know.

  37. “The 2007-09 central bank recovery strategy is problematic in two ways. In creating cheap debt, investors’ money and borrowings flow towards markets and asset classes that develop bubbles. Asset bubbles are a product of excessive demand and rising debt, where the prices of equities, bonds, property and so on exceed the underlying trading performance of the businesses to which they relate.”

    Government and central-bank balance sheets have also still not recovered from all the monetary largesse post-2007 – indeed, QE has broadly continued to the present day. It is therefore questionable whether there is enough firepower to continue propping up a market that is in dire need of a correction that should have happened after the 2007 crisis.” From the conversation.com. Obviously, the businessmen and financial regulators who met at John Hopkins University in October 2019 were convinced that the markets were in dire need of a “correction,” and although completely ignorant of medical knowledge, decided on a coronavirus scare was the best way to force this “correction” before the economic “bubble” got out of hand.

    However. the “correction” proved much worse than they anticipated. They also didn’t anticipate that the medical bureaucrats like Fauci would take control of the response to the “crises” away from them , and do everything in their power to prolong and intensify it–creating, possibly ,a genuine health crises to replace the initial fake one.

    The motives of the medical bureaucrats for making the crisis as worse as possible are unknown to me. But the businessmen and economists who manufactured the crises in the first place have proven themselves to be “sorcerer’s apprentices.”

  38. A highly significant article. Why did the ‘world community,” including WHO. CDC, and nearly all governments, order a shutdown of the world without conducting any epidemiological tests, while standing by bureaucratic regulations demanding elaborate tests before releasing medication already proven by foreign researchers to be a cure as well as a de facto vaccine for the virus? Clearly there are powerful bureaucrats, especially this Anthony Fauci, who want to keep the epidemic going as long as possible to prevent as many people as possible for getting better.

    I will have something to say later on the clear and indisputable evidence that Fauci has been deliberately lying about the supposedly huge number of victims that will supposedly die of the CoSARS-2-19 virus. On March 26, Fauci and two other physicians published an article in the New England Journal of medicine saying that the percentage of people infected with the virus who become seriously ill and die is much lower than was previously thought, and that the likely final death toll will probably be no worse than in one of the other worse-than-usual seasonal influenza epidemics since 2000. A few days later he told both President Trump and the American public the exact opposite–that this was an unprecedented disaster that would cause hundreds of thousands of deaths.

    This blatant lie, together with his efforts to prevent the use of life-saving medicine for the many flu and pneumonia victims of this year’s seasonal epidemic, marks Fauci as one of the most sinister criminals of all time.Right up there with the SS doctors who conducted “medical experiments” on people during the Holocaust, and selected people for the gas chambers. He is doing his best to keep sick people from recovering and to wreck or economy and destroy our national morale at the same time.

    I wonder who he is working for?