PM: Iron Dome system crucial to peace with Palestinians

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1. “the Iron Dome will play an important role in peace, since it will make an agreement with the Palestinians possible.”

   Protection from rockets will make an agreement with PA Muslims possible? Bibi just can’t wait to surrender Jewish land to hate-filled, implacable enemies and he will use any nonsensical argument to do it.

2. Thursday, June 30, 2011
   Is PM Netanyahu proposing gizmos as substitute for secure borders?

   [Dr. Aaron Lerner – IMRA:

   Yes, the Iron Dome system is useful.

   But it is puzzling to see their deployment put in the context of gizmos that
   could somehow justify the borders set for a Palestinian state.

   After all, for every gizmo there is ultimately a counter gizmo. And the
   border one accepts relying on the gizmo won’t be changed when the counter
   gizmo is deployed.

   This, by the way, is the problem behind the argument made by those who
   suggest that we can replace the Golan with a gizmo.

   As for the Iron Dome gizmo, it should be noted that it requires a distance
   of several kilometers from the source of fire in order to operate.
   Neighborhoods in Kfar Sava, for example, are too close to Kalkiliya to be
   protected by the Iron Dome. Ditto for parts of Jerusalem (depending on the
   borders) and many other places.

   On the other hand, is this a more sophisticate move than what it appears to
   be?

   Is Mr. Netanyahu ultimately going to share with the Israeli public the
   assessments of the limitations of the gizmos in order to explain why the
   borders Israel can accept are substantially different from the lines so many
   people have been throwing around for years?] Read More
   

3. Israel’s defense chiefs failed in deterring Iran
   Ex-Mossad head, Meir Dagan, and ex-Chief of Staff, Gabi Ashkenazi, appear to claim they helped rescue Israel from a destructive war with Iran, perhaps the truth is that defemse establishment failed to fulfill the instructions of political leaders.
   By Aluf Benn

   Ashkenazi, Dagan and their friends were not enthusiastic. They were troubled by the superficiality of Netanyahu and of his talk about a “second Holocaust,” and the ambiguous stance of Barak. They were, of course, worried about a failed war, at the end of which the officers would be blamed, not the politicians.

   “Therefore they embarked on a foiling action, not against Iran but against their superiors…..”

   This is the background to the power plays that took place at the top of the defense pyramid, the Galant Affair, and the retirement of Ashkenazi and Dagan (who wanted to stay on for another year ), and of Diskin (who wanted to be the head of Mossad ).

   Now, Israel is twiddling its thumbs, the defeated U.S. is pulling out of Iraq, and Iran is expediting uranium enrichment and the economy is flourishing in spite of the sanctions.

   From where I sit i have to give Benn credibility on this one.

   Ea. head of security and Peres should be arrested and charged with high treason. BB and Barak should be deposed for total incompetence at the very least but should be investigated for complicity.

   I smelled rat over a year ago and BB’s kissing Obama’s ass more often than it rains in London partially explains what happened. BB needs Obama to cover his own incompetency and lies to the Israeli people.

   A Nuclear Iran: What, Finally Is To Be Done? (A Column in Two Parts)
   More Articles By Louis René Beres…..Read More:

   Posted Jun 29 2011
   In Israel, a core disagreement has emerged between Strategic Affairs Minister Moshe Ya’alon and former Mossad Chief Meir Dagan.

   We have seen this “movie” before. Despite new eleventh-hour warnings from the IAEA, the U.N.’s nuclear watchdog agency, it still appears that nothing serious will be done to halt the final development of Iranian nuclear weapons. From the start, the international community, in spite of persistent Iranian violations of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT), has refused to act meaningfully against President Ahmadinejad’s bomb. So, what do we do now?

   It is a core question that I have been asking (and answering) here for more than ten years.
   

4. What has become of the mantra “Living side by side in peace and security?” Obviously Netanyahoo knows it’s just empty rhetoric. We’re seeing a repeat of his handing the hills around Hevron over to the Arabs – without any intention to take them back should they shoot at Jews from there.

   My goodness, security means the neighbor knows you will sort him out on his side of the border if he doesn’t behave – and that you’ll shift the border out if needs be. It’s amazing how everybody who meddles in Israel’s affairs want to pin Israel down in fixed borders, leaving Israel no room to keep the enemy at a safe distance. King David would have thumbed his nose at them!

5. It is clear that Bibi does not expect our peace agreement to be very peaceful if we need a missile defense shield for rockets launched from the territories we withdraw from.

6. Israel’s White elephant!! nice to have but Israel can’t depend on this system for it’s security against short range rockets.

   At about $35,000 for each Iron Dome Missile, The Arabs cost is only a few hundred $$$$ for each rocket they fire. Even if iron Dome shot down every enemy rocket the cost would bankrupt Israel in shot order.

   To spend that kind of money for a system that is less than 50% effective and then Base territorial giveaways based on such a system is beyond insane.

   It’s

   criminally

   Stupid!

   Iron Dome Anti-missile system hailed as a ‘technical revolution’ has recently shot down nine rockets but failed to stop 11 others, says army.

   Gulf war in 1991. US Patriot missile batteries in Israel and Saudi Arabia appeared to be successful at eliminating scud missiles fired by Iraq. In fact, the system was far less effective than it appeared and subsequent analysis estimated it had a success rate of less than 10%. In Truth it was closer to Zero in effectiveness against Scuds.

   During the Iraq war in 2003 the improved Patriots proved more successful against allied aircraft than long-range rockets. Iraq did not fire any long-range rockets and the Patriots downed one British jet and one American jet, killing both crews.

   Hezbollah fired some 4,000 rockets at Israel in the 2006 Lebanon war, killing 44 people.

   Israel has developed the Arrow long-range missile-defence system but, after its experience in 2006, the government decided to invest in the Iron Dome system instead. The cost of its development and deployment is estimated at more than £1bn, some of which will be subsidised by the US.

   Critics point out that each Iron Dome missile costs about £25,000, while the rockets they eliminate are worth less than a few hundred, which could allow militants to wage economic warfare against Israel. Others suggest it would be easy to fool missile-defence systems with decoys.

   “We know that terrorists are elusive and on a learning curve. There is no doubt that this success will challenge them to rethink and fine tune their tactics,” said Ganor, “The whole idea of launching rockets at Israel was a response to the failure of other tactics. If Iron Dome proves to be successful, Hamas and Hezbollah will certainly try to think of new methods of attack.”

7. Orwellian headline of the day.

   Sure is…

   Defence without (simultaneous) ruthless counter-attack is a recipe for certain defeat. [Miyamoto Musashi]

8. Orwellian headline of the day.