Google’s effort to force Israpundit off the internet is part of a larger pattern of behavior by “democratic” governments, with the active collaboration of internet servers, to censor the press and deprive the public of the right to know. The censoring of information about the recent disaster in Christchurch is an even more extreme example of this global trend toward censorship.
The ease with which Australian internet providers, Facebook and Twitter, at the behest of New Zealand’s government and probably many other governments as well, were able to quickly remove all traces of two newsworthy public documents from the internet should terrify anyone who cares about freedom of the press and the public’s right to know. Yes, the video must be truly horrifying, and the justification of his crime in the terrorists’ “manifesto” disgusting. But they are nevertheless documentary evidence about an event , and a perpetrator of the event, that was given maximum publicity by the press. Should internet servers, or much the less governments, have the power to pick and choose what we are allowed to know about events, even appalling crimes, that are of great concern to the public? Events that the press itself, and governments, have given great publicity?
This is an outrageous development which threatens freedom and democracy throughout the world. If the world’s governments, in collusion with internet servers, can censor these two documents, they can censor far more important information as well, and do it in a matter of minutes.
@ Ted Belman:
I’m sorry to hear this. Actually, Google aka Larry Page and Sergei Brin, isn’t just trying to silence you: It’s after me, Edgar, Yamit, Bear, Adam and all the others as well. Some of us are US citizens; and Google is conspiring to deny us our civil rights under Article I of the US Constitution.
We’re on life’s home stretch, and our medical bills are starting to take their toll. There’s not much we can do physically, to help.
Daniel Pipes is a Never Trumper who, as you said, walks a tight line when talking about our Muslim enemies. He’s safe for now; but the oligarchs will soon go after him too. As it is, he requires a bodyguard when going on speaking engagements.
My wife and I pray for you, for Daniel and for this world that is rapidly being deprived of truth and freedom.
@ Ted Belman:A lot of conservative sites have been targeted.
Thought about selling the space on your site yourself to companies or organizations that have travel to Israel related businesses? Pro Israel Organizations? Different than click thru google advertising but perhaps would be more lucrative?
This is what I probably violated,
Incites hatred against, promotes discrimination of, or disparages an individual or group on the basis of their race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, age, nationality, veteran status, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or other characteristic that is associated with systemic discrimination or marginalization.
Telling the horrible truth about a particular religion, like Islam, is forbidden. The truth is no defense.
Probably, Daniel Pipes praises Islam before targeting radical Islam, so he won’t be deplatformed.
@ Michael S:
Google has a division called “Adsense”. They get advertisers to sign up and they get publishers like Israpundit to install spaces where the ads can be shown.I used three different shape spaces; in the column, on the front page be3low each post and inside the post.,
As you can see these spaces are now empty.
@ Ted Belman:
I don’t understand. What does Google have to do with advertizing on Israpundit?
@ Oakes Spalding:
A few months ago Google gave me a warning saying my post was too offensive and telling me if it persists, I will loose my advertising.
I didn’t get another warning and just this week I notice that no ads were appearing..
Ted, please untrash my post of a few moments ago. I was just trying to help you with some supporting information!
I know Ted hates it when I do this, but this is an unusual situation, and it needs to be addressed. I am therefore copying Seth Franzman’s column in todays JP about censorship of the internet in full. “DON’T MENTION IT – NEW ZEALAND’S ORWELLIAN APPROACH TO TERROR
Calling the killer “terrorist, criminal, extremist,” New Zealand’s Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern asserted, “He will be, when I speak, nameless.”
BY SETH J. FRANTZMAN MARCH 19, 2019 18:15
4 minute read.
PM Ardern voices New Zealand’s grief, March 19, 2019 (Reuters)
New Zealanders Are Turning In Guns Willingly After Massacre
Play Video
PM Ardern voices New Zealand’s grief, March 19, 2019 (Reuters)
New Zealand’s Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has vowed never to mention the name of the perpetrator of the massacre at two mosques. Calling the killer “terrorist, criminal, extremist,” she has asserted, “He will be, when I speak, nameless.” It is part of New Zealand’s overall attempt to ban footage of the incident under the theory that any images or mention of the perpetrator will somehow glorify him.
“He may have sought notoriety, but we in New Zealand we will give him nothing,” Ardern stated, attempting to differentiate New Zealand’s approach from those of other countries. And the country has been widely praised for how quickly it promised toughened gun regulations and solemnly commemorated the victims.
But there’s a problem. Fifty people were murdered. New Zealand authorities demanded from the first moments after the attack that social media companies remove videos of the massacre in Christchurch. The country has also blocked access to sites that host video of the attack, according to the news and media site The Verge. The goal appears to be that there will be no footage of the attack, and that the name of the perpetrator will disappear from public discourse.
Imagine if this was the approach to other terrible crimes. Imagine if we just banned all images of the Holocaust and mention of Hitler. Would that make Nazism go away, or would it be tantamount to denying the Holocaust? Closer to home, in Israel, what if we just banned all mention of Baruch Goldstein and never showed any photos of the Hebron massacre of 1994?
Why stop there? Let’s ban all images of terrorism and mentions of terrorist leaders like Osama bin Laden or Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. There’s something strange about this strategy that is reminiscent of Lord Voldemort in Harry Potter, “He who must not be named.” Did not naming that character make him disappear, even in fiction?
There is no evidence that by simply not naming terrorist perpetrators, such as Timothy McVeigh, or by not showing any footage from their attacks, we will reduce terrorism or help memorialize their victims. When I was a teenager, the Oklahoma City Bombing which killed 168 people, was a very important event. We learned a lot about McVeigh. American writer Gore Vidal even called him “eloquent” and accused the media of depicting him as “sadistic, crazed monster.”
And yet, no one in the US since then has taken after McVeigh, and no one has carried out another such terrible attack. We saw the footage, we know the name, and we were horrified by it.
NEW ZEALAND’S approach may be more about preserving the county’s image than it is about actually confronting the racism and hate that led to the terrorist attack at two mosques. The fact is, two of the world’s worst far-right acts of terrorism in recent memory took place in New Zealand and Norway, two countries that pride themselves on being more progressive, and not prone to the kind of gun violence and racism that afflict other societies.
But then, why did these attacks take place there? In Norway recently, the public prosecutor’s office refused to press hate-crimes charges against a rapper who cursed “f***ing Jews.” Norway claimed it was an anti-Israel comment. That’s a convenient way to whitewash antisemitism. It might be part of a larger attempt to simply re-classify hatred as something else, so as to pretend the country does not have a problem.
In New Zealand, many questions remain about how a man who was active on social media prior to his attack went largely unnoticed. As is usual after these kinds of incidents, the social media platforms deleted his accounts. That is a convenient way – sort of like banning footage and not saying the terrorist’s name – to quietly make sure any footprints he left on the way to committing the crime have been covered over. Under the supposed guise of making sure he won’t be worshiped, or that his actions don’t lead to copy-cat attacks, all traces of evidence showing how he was radicalized are removed from the public record. What about his followers? Who were they? What did they know? What networks did he use?
What if we did the same with all similar attacks? Let’s remove from the public record every mention of Bin Laden, and we’ll just make sure no one knows who he met and where prior to 9/11. Let’s remove all mentions of the KKK. No images of their crimes either. And Nazism? Well, we can get rid of Mein Kampf and everything leading up to the Holocaust.
Does that help us learn from these crimes? Do we learn from things by erasing every piece of information about them? Doesn’t an open society tend to confront extremism better because it knows more about it, more about the warning signs, the signposts that lead to it? For instance, if we no longer mention the name of the New Zealand terrorist, or the man who attacked Jews in a synagogue in Pittsburgh, then are we well-armed to confront a person who says online, “I support XXXXX.”
Since we no longer recall his name, we won’t know what the person is talking about, and won’t report it as hate. Isn’t it preferable that when someone says “I like Hitler,” we can articulate why we don’t like Hitler, as opposed to just asking “Who?”
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Google’s effort to force Israpundit off the internet is part of a larger pattern of behavior by “democratic” governments, with the active collaboration of internet servers, to censor the press and deprive the public of the right to know. The censoring of information about the recent disaster in Christchurch is an even more extreme example of this global trend toward censorship.
The ease with which Australian internet providers, Facebook and Twitter, at the behest of New Zealand’s government and probably many other governments as well, were able to quickly remove all traces of two newsworthy public documents from the internet should terrify anyone who cares about freedom of the press and the public’s right to know. Yes, the video must be truly horrifying, and the justification of his crime in the terrorists’ “manifesto” disgusting. But they are nevertheless documentary evidence about an event , and a perpetrator of the event, that was given maximum publicity by the press. Should internet servers, or much the less governments, have the power to pick and choose what we are allowed to know about events, even appalling crimes, that are of great concern to the public? Events that the press itself, and governments, have given great publicity?
This is an outrageous development which threatens freedom and democracy throughout the world. If the world’s governments, in collusion with internet servers, can censor these two documents, they can censor far more important information as well, and do it in a matter of minutes.
@ Ted Belman:
I’m sorry to hear this. Actually, Google aka Larry Page and Sergei Brin, isn’t just trying to silence you: It’s after me, Edgar, Yamit, Bear, Adam and all the others as well. Some of us are US citizens; and Google is conspiring to deny us our civil rights under Article I of the US Constitution.
We’re on life’s home stretch, and our medical bills are starting to take their toll. There’s not much we can do physically, to help.
Daniel Pipes is a Never Trumper who, as you said, walks a tight line when talking about our Muslim enemies. He’s safe for now; but the oligarchs will soon go after him too. As it is, he requires a bodyguard when going on speaking engagements.
My wife and I pray for you, for Daniel and for this world that is rapidly being deprived of truth and freedom.
@ Ted Belman:A lot of conservative sites have been targeted.
Thought about selling the space on your site yourself to companies or organizations that have travel to Israel related businesses? Pro Israel Organizations? Different than click thru google advertising but perhaps would be more lucrative?
This is what I probably violated,
Telling the horrible truth about a particular religion, like Islam, is forbidden. The truth is no defense.
Probably, Daniel Pipes praises Islam before targeting radical Islam, so he won’t be deplatformed.
@ Michael S:
Google has a division called “Adsense”. They get advertisers to sign up and they get publishers like Israpundit to install spaces where the ads can be shown.I used three different shape spaces; in the column, on the front page be3low each post and inside the post.,
As you can see these spaces are now empty.
@ Ted Belman:
I don’t understand. What does Google have to do with advertizing on Israpundit?
@ Oakes Spalding:
A few months ago Google gave me a warning saying my post was too offensive and telling me if it persists, I will loose my advertising.
I didn’t get another warning and just this week I notice that no ads were appearing..
Ted, please untrash my post of a few moments ago. I was just trying to help you with some supporting information!
I know Ted hates it when I do this, but this is an unusual situation, and it needs to be addressed. I am therefore copying Seth Franzman’s column in todays JP about censorship of the internet in full. “DON’T MENTION IT – NEW ZEALAND’S ORWELLIAN APPROACH TO TERROR
Calling the killer “terrorist, criminal, extremist,” New Zealand’s Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern asserted, “He will be, when I speak, nameless.”
BY SETH J. FRANTZMAN MARCH 19, 2019 18:15
4 minute read.
PM Ardern voices New Zealand’s grief, March 19, 2019 (Reuters)
New Zealanders Are Turning In Guns Willingly After Massacre
Play Video
PM Ardern voices New Zealand’s grief, March 19, 2019 (Reuters)
New Zealand’s Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has vowed never to mention the name of the perpetrator of the massacre at two mosques. Calling the killer “terrorist, criminal, extremist,” she has asserted, “He will be, when I speak, nameless.” It is part of New Zealand’s overall attempt to ban footage of the incident under the theory that any images or mention of the perpetrator will somehow glorify him.
“He may have sought notoriety, but we in New Zealand we will give him nothing,” Ardern stated, attempting to differentiate New Zealand’s approach from those of other countries. And the country has been widely praised for how quickly it promised toughened gun regulations and solemnly commemorated the victims.
But there’s a problem. Fifty people were murdered. New Zealand authorities demanded from the first moments after the attack that social media companies remove videos of the massacre in Christchurch. The country has also blocked access to sites that host video of the attack, according to the news and media site The Verge. The goal appears to be that there will be no footage of the attack, and that the name of the perpetrator will disappear from public discourse.
Imagine if this was the approach to other terrible crimes. Imagine if we just banned all images of the Holocaust and mention of Hitler. Would that make Nazism go away, or would it be tantamount to denying the Holocaust? Closer to home, in Israel, what if we just banned all mention of Baruch Goldstein and never showed any photos of the Hebron massacre of 1994?
Why stop there? Let’s ban all images of terrorism and mentions of terrorist leaders like Osama bin Laden or Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. There’s something strange about this strategy that is reminiscent of Lord Voldemort in Harry Potter, “He who must not be named.” Did not naming that character make him disappear, even in fiction?
There is no evidence that by simply not naming terrorist perpetrators, such as Timothy McVeigh, or by not showing any footage from their attacks, we will reduce terrorism or help memorialize their victims. When I was a teenager, the Oklahoma City Bombing which killed 168 people, was a very important event. We learned a lot about McVeigh. American writer Gore Vidal even called him “eloquent” and accused the media of depicting him as “sadistic, crazed monster.”
And yet, no one in the US since then has taken after McVeigh, and no one has carried out another such terrible attack. We saw the footage, we know the name, and we were horrified by it.
NEW ZEALAND’S approach may be more about preserving the county’s image than it is about actually confronting the racism and hate that led to the terrorist attack at two mosques. The fact is, two of the world’s worst far-right acts of terrorism in recent memory took place in New Zealand and Norway, two countries that pride themselves on being more progressive, and not prone to the kind of gun violence and racism that afflict other societies.
But then, why did these attacks take place there? In Norway recently, the public prosecutor’s office refused to press hate-crimes charges against a rapper who cursed “f***ing Jews.” Norway claimed it was an anti-Israel comment. That’s a convenient way to whitewash antisemitism. It might be part of a larger attempt to simply re-classify hatred as something else, so as to pretend the country does not have a problem.
In New Zealand, many questions remain about how a man who was active on social media prior to his attack went largely unnoticed. As is usual after these kinds of incidents, the social media platforms deleted his accounts. That is a convenient way – sort of like banning footage and not saying the terrorist’s name – to quietly make sure any footprints he left on the way to committing the crime have been covered over. Under the supposed guise of making sure he won’t be worshiped, or that his actions don’t lead to copy-cat attacks, all traces of evidence showing how he was radicalized are removed from the public record. What about his followers? Who were they? What did they know? What networks did he use?
What if we did the same with all similar attacks? Let’s remove from the public record every mention of Bin Laden, and we’ll just make sure no one knows who he met and where prior to 9/11. Let’s remove all mentions of the KKK. No images of their crimes either. And Nazism? Well, we can get rid of Mein Kampf and everything leading up to the Holocaust.
Does that help us learn from these crimes? Do we learn from things by erasing every piece of information about them? Doesn’t an open society tend to confront extremism better because it knows more about it, more about the warning signs, the signposts that lead to it? For instance, if we no longer mention the name of the New Zealand terrorist, or the man who attacked Jews in a synagogue in Pittsburgh, then are we well-armed to confront a person who says online, “I support XXXXX.”
Since we no longer recall his name, we won’t know what the person is talking about, and won’t report it as hate. Isn’t it preferable that when someone says “I like Hitler,” we can articulate why we don’t like Hitler, as opposed to just asking “Who?”
Follow the author @Sfrantzman.
Recommended videos”
Can you give any details of the circumstances behind their action?
Google needs to be regulated