By Ted Belman
POLL: Palin Doesn’t Stand A Chance Against Obama In 2012
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A new Wall Street Journal NBC News poll shows that Sarah Palin is behind President Barack Obama in the race for 2012 by a whopping 22 points.
Obama currently leads over every other Republican candidate as well, including against Mitt Romney, where he holds a 7 point lead.
But the gap over Palin is what stands out here, with Obama holding a 55-33 lead.
Post-ABC poll: Sarah Palin lags Obama in theoretical 2012 presidential election
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Washington Post, December 17, 2010;
Six in 10 voters say they would not even consider voting for the former Alaska governor if she launches a White House bid, and she loses badly to President Obama in a hypothetical 2012 general election test.
For Palin, and all us Palin lovers, this is not good news. In fact negative numbers on Palin have increased in the last year. So obviously, she is not succeeding in improving her chances despite a very successful year in all other respects.
On the other hand, Obama, for all his screw ups, is maintaining enough support to win again.. Beats me. Apparently, people love his smile, if not his policies and that is enough to keep his chances for reelection strong.
Jonathan Tobin advises Palin’s Got Bigger Problems Than Charles Krauthammer, and based on these polls, suggested Palin should wake up to the fact she is unelectable.
When Palin was questioned about the latest polls by Robin Roberts on Nightline, she acknowledgwed they were not pretty but went on to argue that a long primary could turn things around because it would give her the opportunity to debate the issues.
Nevertheless, the lay of the land is not favourable. Will more exposure change the minds of 60% of Americans? I doubt it.
It is hard to believe that Palin would run given these numbers.
If not President, then what?
I thus ended the article and my hopes but then I came upon this at Pajamas Media today.
Tale of the Tape: Obama vs. Palin
Polar opposite visions of what leadership should be.
December 19, 2010 – by David B. Jenkins
On December 4, 2009, pollster Matt Towery predicted that President Barack Obama’s approval ratings would drop to somewhere in the mid-40s by mid-2010. To his surprise, it took only a few days. By the second week of December, Obama’s approval had faded to 47 percent in a Gallup poll. The number of Americans who approve of the president’s job performance has gone as low as 41 percent, and he fares even worse among independent voters. All of this despite incessant drum-beating on his behalf by the MSM.
At the same time, Sarah Palin — whose favorability rating in some polls went as low as 39 percent in July when she resigned as Alaska’s governor — is currently at 46 percent in a recent AP-GfK poll, even though the MSM has treated her to a barrage of disparagement perhaps unequaled in American political history. Yet among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, Palin is viewed favorably by 80 percent — a higher rating than any other potential GOP presidential candidate. And 63 percent of everyday Americans say their views are more like Palin’s than Obama’s.
In November, the Daily Caller had this to say,
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Palin, the former Alaska governor and 2008 vice presidential nominee, is the best-known and most divisive of the bunch. In the wake of her high-profile role in endorsing candidates all over the country, 46 percent of Americans view her favorably, 49 percent unfavorably, and 5 percent don’t know enough about her to form an opinion.
Her “don’t know” score is considerably lower than those registered by other possible candidates tested in the poll.
[..] In terms of winning the 2012 nomination, the question is how Republican-leaning Americans view the contenders. Palin comes out on top. Among adults who identify themselves as Republicans or GOP-leaning independents, 79 percent view her favorably, and 17 percent unfavorably.
These findings worry many Republican officials. The poll suggests Palin might be able to win the nomination. But among independents — they could be the deciding factor in the general election — just 43 percent hold a favorable view of Palin, compared with 61 percent with a positive view of Obama.
And with half of independents viewing Palin unfavorably, she would have to work hard to persuade a majority of voters to back her.
Oh blah, blah, blah!!!
Presidential polls always–ALWAYS–say that the democrat wins, and that the Republican loses.
The polls ALWAYS say this, no matter what the actual reality is. (more below)
For my entire life, these presidential polls have never been intended to follow and report on popular opinion. Their intent has always been to SHAPE public opinion.
Only in the final weeks immediately preceding an actual presidential election will these polls begin to reflect actual public opinion. Haven’t you ever noticed that the democrat–no matter who he is–always leads the Republican until just a few weeks before election day? The organizations that keep/manage these polls desire to maintain credibility for the future.
…and too many idiots listen.
I completely agree.
I didn’t mean after the convention. Mcain’s poll numbers rose after he chose Sarah as his running mate in September. Then the media went to work on her.
Laura
The Democrats are not afraid of her. The may hate her but they aren’t afraid because they believe Obam can beat her even with his low polling numbers today anybody else they might be afraid of. They want Palin running.
Laura, there is always a spike in the polls after every convention in either party. I was referring to the primaries not the national elections.
Romney should should have gotten the nomination and if he had he might have won. Elections in America are lost not won. Obama didn’t win it the Republicans lost it.
The Democrats are not afraid of her. The may hate her but they aren’t afraid because they believe Obam can beat her even with his low polling numbers today anybody else they might be afraid of. They want Palin running.
I disagree. I believe the dems are very afraid of Palin. I still think its much too early to tell whether Sarah can win a general election. I don’t suppose three years ago anyone would have predicted Barack Hussein Obama would become president. I would bet most Americans three years ago hadn’t even heard of him. Remember McCain went up in the polls after he chose her. Then the media did a job on her. If she can overcome media bias, she can win.
Don’t believe any of these polls-they are rigged to achieve the outcome of Sarah not being electable.
If Sarah runs, and I hope she is, she will emulate a Reagen slide, winning more States, not seen since Ronald Reagen.
“The establishment, and media” try everything they can to cast Sarah in a bad light.
The link to the poll contained this:
Obama currently leads over every other Republican candidate as well
I suspect that the poll was skewed. Nonetheless, I am aware that the mainstream media (MSM) has been working overtime to paint Gov. Palin as a cross between a Barbie Doll and a space alien. The bottom line, to me, is that
1. George Soros has dumped Obama AND the Dems. He was a major reason for their success in 2008, and a factor in their demise in 2010
2. The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is fielding its own candidates in both parties, as usual (McCain was CFR, as was B. Clinton). It looks like they want Bolton for Rep nominee and H. Clinton of Dem; or at least, they’ll test the waters and see if they work
3. Sarah Palin AND the Tea Party (which she didn’t invent) have both left the BIG BOYS flatfooted in the past.
Soros, Clinton, et al are professional manipulators. GOD is a professional God. I’m more concerned with what the Latter is up to, than with the former.
4. I live in Oregon. By the time we hold our primaries here, the race is generally over already. Primaries are for you Easterners to lose sleep over. Here, it’s not my vote that counts, but my prayers.
The Republicans have fallen into a Democrat trap by taking the house. To cut the budget in any meaningful way will require cutting entitlements. That might effect up to 53 million Americans directly. They will hold the republicans responsible and give Obama or Hilary etc the win in 2012.
Having fiscal conservative run the house and doing what is right for the economy will lose them the election. That’s the game and that’s the political paradox of American politics.
The Democrats wanted McCain and worked in many insidious ways to help him get the nomination. They viewed Romney more formidable. They manipulated the MSM to help McCain. They are doing the same with Palin. They want Palin to win the Republican nomination because they believe they can beat her. She won’t carry the independents or most women.
Here’s something else to think about. The Republican elite are against Palin in part because they fear she will get the nomination and lose the election and in part they fear she will take over the party at their expense.
So why do the Democrats attack her so. Is it because they think she’ll lose? More likely they think if they don’t attack her, she is likely to win.
So why don’t the republicans support her if she is likely to win expecially with their support. If Rove, Parker, Noonan, Krauthammer and all the others started referring to her in glowing terms and showed respect for her intelligence, facebook posts and accomplishments, she would quickly move ahead in the polls.
Laura, don’t count me out. I am a fan of hers. She is a breath of fresh air. The more the liberal left anti-Semites hate her, the more I love her.
Win or not she is the spark that set off the Tea Party. Americans began to believe in themselves it ignited the desire to reclaim their government.
You shouldn’t and I’m sorry I said that.
Unfortunately you are correct that Ted and I are in the minority in support of Sarah running for president. But that is what I see is the problem. Sarah should be hugely popular amongst Americans. We may be the minority but we are right. The opponenents of Sarah are wrong and it will be America which loses out on a potential great leader.
Laura,
why should I?
I’ve said time and again that I like Sarah, especially when it comes to her views on Israel. In that respect, I wish more american politicians were like her. My beef is really with those who think she actually has a chance of ever making it to the White House, she doesn’t. To irrationally build her up to something she’s not is a waste of time. Every time I state this fact you somehow think I’m in the fringe of public opinion when I’m not. You and Ted are.
I have been professionally involved in political campaigns for 40 years, and have commissioned hundreds of polls in that time. There are multiple ways for pollsters to manipulate the outcomes of their polling. A mega customer like ABC/Wall Street Journal can have any damn results they so desire.
I am not a supporter of Ms Palin, but I have never seen a political figure like her so intensly and consistently attacked by the American Establishment. Can she be all bad,if these incompetent and ethically chalanged Elites hate her so much?
I have a feeling, part of the almost neurotic resentment she generates. is partially a result of her unwavering support of Israel.(Of course that doesn’t slow down the American Jews from being the most vicious of all in their attacks on her.) Go figure?
drjb you should retire from posting on Israpundit.
These polls aren’t a negative reflection on Sarah but reveal how far America has fallen that they would choose a marxist who identifies with the muslim world and other enemies of America over a good, decent, moral true American patriot who holds traditional American values. Real Americans are denigrated these days while internationalists and those who hold third world values are elevated. There was a time in America when someone like Sarah would have been beloved by Americans. Reagan was beloved during his time. I suspect that if he ran in today’s climate he would be reviled.
And what is Charles Krauthammer’s problem? In fact what is the problem with anyone who disdains Sarah Palin. I could understand not agreeing with her politics, but it goes deeper than that. Krauthammer clearly doesn’t disagree with her politics, so what’s the problem? What is this hatred for her really about?
Ted, you should too!
A few suggestions:
– a well paid reality tv show on life in Alaska
– a well paid contestant in Dancing with the Stars
– a well paid writer of books on life, family values and country
– a well paid commentator for Fox TV
– a well paid host for political TV talk show Nightline
– a well paid guest for rallies in support for Israel
Then Sarah should retire from public life, enjoy her family and money, and live quietly in Florida enjoying the nice weather.