Palestinians nowhere in sight before twentieth century

9,000 Photos from 1800’s British Mandate of Palestine – with no trace of ‘Palestinians’

Posted on February 13, 2013 by ADMIN 280 Comments

Where ARE all those Palestinians, the proclaimed one million of them who lived in Israel before they were ‘displaced’?

Nowhere.

Nowhere, because they never existed.

And where are all the mosques for those “1 million Palestinians”? With Muslims comes mosques. There can be no Muslim population without a large proportion of mosques. If they had been 1 million at the turn of the Century, or even in 1920 after they began immigrating to fight the British, with their rapid population growth Palestine would consist of over 40 million people today and not 4 million. That alone proves the Palestinian jihad lies. Their population is small because they are new invaders and occupiers who arrived late with an aim to commit jihad. They never lost land that was never theirs to begin with!

The British army permitted merely a few Ottomans to remain due to religious observations, the rest was Jewish. In reality according to eyewitness reports the barren British Mandate had a very small number of people living on it. Félix Bonfils (1831-1885) was a French photographer and writer who was active in the Middle East. Four years after his arrival he reported 15,000 prints of Egypt, Palestine, Syria, and Greece, and 9,000 stereoscopic-views. He traveled to the region several times and we hear of no mass population of Palestinians, which contradicts everything the Palestinians lie about to the world.

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  1. @ CuriousAmerican:
    Now about sharing the land, the concept was that each group will get to have a part of Palestine as an autonomous country including an autonomous homeland for the Jewish, not as Jews living among-st the Arabs as second class citizens. Someone mentioned that the Jews got what they wanted, not so my friend. The original mandate called for a homeland for the Jewish people in the territory from the Jordan River to the sea, which they have not received in full as of yet.

    On the other hand it was the Arabs who got what they wanted from the British. Trans Jordan in 1922, Syria in 1932, and Iraq, and Lebanon from the French, and so on. The notion of Palestinian People is a made up one, for tying to establish a political advantage against Israel, and if you tell a lie often enough eventually people will believe.

  2. mar55 Said:

    Have faith in yourself and your abilities which are more than you think

    don’t worry, I taught 1s grade and later English as a Second language. I was very strict with my ” adult” students, children were never a problem, and my Cartelistos behaved. Some of the Cartelistos were ” packing guns” I later learned. In order, they said, to protect me.

    Bernard is posting on “Chit-chat”.

  3. @ honeybee:
    Good luck to your relative. Argentina with all their economic problems they have had is the last place where to learn economics. Luckily in 10 days she will not have time to learn too much about their economy. Unless the course is about their economic mistakes.
    You do not need to be married in order to eat. You are smart enough to be independent. Think positive. Think business.
    Have faith in yourself and your abilities which are more than you think. Other people can see it. You should take a good look.
    BTW where is Bernard?

  4. @ mar55:

    I have a female relative who is headed to Argentina in a few days to study Argentinian economics. She will be there for 10 days. She is studying Economics at the University of Colorado Boulder. Unlike my self, she will not have to get married in order to eat.

  5. @ mar55:

    I went and adopted one. Then I printed the link and made several copies. With them in hand distributed them in the Torah Class and in the Jewish Market. This way more people got involved in praying for our soldiers.
    I do not remember if I ever thank you for it but I thank you now in case I did not do it then.

    It’s ME that should thank you! You did so well! G-d bless you 🙂
    That said, I can’t get myself involved too much on Internet. Our time is so limited. I try. That said I’m a regular lurker here.
    Thank you very much for your kind post, mar55 🙂
    PS: I’m trying to post another one to honeybee and cannot (had to write it twice – I’m saying that in case it appears later on)

  6. @ honeybee:
    @ Avigail:
    Hi, Avigail. Remember when during the Gaza War you listed a
    link of an organization to adopt a soldier to pray for him?
    I went and adopted one. Then I printed the link and made several copies. With them in hand distributed them in the Torah Class and in the Jewish Market. This way more people got involved in praying for our soldiers.
    I do not remember if I ever thank you for it but I thank you now in case I did not do it then.
    You always re-appear about this time a year. It is always pleasant to see you again around hear. Try visiting us more often please.
    Honeybee, you are so right about looking into people’s eyes.
    We say in Spanish “Los ojos son el espejo del alma”
    The eyes are the mirror of the soul”
    I have the feeling you are a terrific painter. You look at the essence of the subject. Appearances do not impress you.
    It takes an honest character to look at life that way. I wish I could see some of your paintings.
    We should not even think about what CA says. Who cares what he thinks.
    Another Spanish saying: “Dime de que te jactas y te dire de que careces” Aother way of saying is: Dime de que presumes y te dire de que careces” Translation:
    Tell me what you brag about and I’ll tell you what you lack.
    Spaniards of old had a million colloquial expressions or analogies to describe anything.
    Be well and take good care.

  9. @ Avigail:

    Spare yourself, very upsetting. I have a little virus now, but when I am better I can write about the English history of that time.
    This why I had to get married. Women who major in Medieval English History have to get married.

  12. mar55 Said:

    I did. The expressions are very revealing.

    I use photograph from which to paint. I look for the soul in the eyes and expression.

  16. @ CuriousAmerican:

    Gazans do not have independence but they do have internal autonomy or “home rule”. That is all they had when they were living in provinces of the Ottoman Empire for the 400 years prior to the British Mandate.

  17. @ honeybee:
    I did. The expressions are very revealing. The same as when someone does not think you are a Jew and find out they are mistaken. Looking at people eyes and body language tells more about people real feelings that any words coming out of their mouths.
    You are really smart.

  18. @ CuriousAmerican:

    ¡No me mientas, senora! Hablo su lengua
    ¡Cuidado! Hablo su lengua. Yo sé la verdad.
    Cuando me criticas, hacerlo con sinceridad.

    Again, “no me mientas senora” followed by !Cuidado! Hablo “su” lengua.

    If you say “no me mientas” the following should be Hablo “tu” lengua. Instead of su.
    Cuando me criticas “hacerlo” con sinceridad. Why the infinitive?
    Cuando me criticas “hazlo” con sinceridad.
    Stop coming here telling us what to do and take the time to study the Spanish language. We all know your number.
    honeybee is always sincere and truthful. You on the other hand eres mentiroso. Hipocrita y usas siempre subterfugios para esconder tu mala voluntad hacia nosotros.
    “Vete a hacer gargaras.” Lavate la boca con peroxide para martar los microbios que te deja la “mierda” que hablas.

  20. @ honeybee:
    I watched the entire video. The use of scientific research to uncover the past is incredible. Fascinating story.
    Anti-Semitism is so ingrained in the European culture that it is impossible to erase. Even if Israel is a beacon to the world of Science and does a lot for the benefit of humanity.
    The first to help in natural disasters. Helping African agriculture produce better crops. Giving many third world communities access to potable water. The fact is that whenever something goes wrong “Lets blame the Jew”
    Thank you honeybee.

  22. @ honeybee:
    ¡No me mientas, senora! Hablo su lengua

    What exactly are you trying to say?
    “Are you using the language in third person or second
    Si dices no me mientas you are using the infortmal “Tu” when you say hablo su lengua is in the more formal “usted”
    O te peinas o te haces papelillos. What is it?
    Go and learn your grammar and BTW you might want to learn the conjugations and the tenses.
    Leave honeybee alone. Unlike you she does not talk from both
    side of the mouth. She is truthful and sincere. Besides, she has a heart something you seem to be lacking.

  25. @ CuriousAmerican:

    You are not paying attention. I recommended paying them to leave, so you could avoid concessions.

    Paying them is a concession! It is not just the Jewish people that radical Islam wants to rid the world of. We have a duty and an obligation to protect humanity. You are aware that militant Palestinians are part of radical Islam aren’t you?

    Having one’s seacoast blocked after 3 – 6 miles, and travel restricted makes people angry. Now, maybe these are necessary for security, but they do not make friends.

    Israel withdrew to the perimeters. Gaza was not made independent.

    You are quite the piece of work – a shame to the human race. One cannot make friends with unreasoning animals. It’s a good thing they were not made independant. There would be no Jewish Israel if that were so – as they happily spend their time and money building terror tunnels and plotting to kill.

    Gaza proves that a two state solution would be suicide for Israel.

    I don’t understand why you are so defensive.

  31. New Paradigm for long term peace and stability for Israel

    If you want peace it is time to forget being politically correct and proportional in fighting Palestinian terrorism. It is time to be determined to win the conflict and not just say the conflict will continue forever. It is not acceptable that every few months or years that Palestinians shoot rockets at Israelis, blow up bombs, kidnap children or resort to other forms of violence against Jews in Israel.

    Two states in the Land of Israel west of the River Jordan is a formula for war not peace. The Palestinian (Arabs) have for 100 years not accepted the permanent presence of the Jews.

    Israel has a legal, historical and moral right to the land of Israel west of the Jordan River.

    1. However, except for a small amount of people on the right Israelis do not want to incorporate large amounts of Arabs into Israel. The public does not want a bi-national state.

    2. To be able to buy Arabs properties and facilitate their peaceful emigration (buying them out) the terrorists must be jailed, deported or killed otherwise they will exact revenge on the families of those leaving or those leaving before they actually leave. They have a death sentence for selling properties to Jews.

    Once you accomplish number 2 above an NGO working with the government should start enacting an humane assisted program of Arab emigration starting with East Jerusalem and Arab villages in Area C near Jewish Towns. Learn as you go and what problems come up. This will be fraught with problems imagined and not imagined. Just like a franchiser learns by first working on a few locations before expanding widely.

    Annex Area C. Help the Arabs there emigrate.
    Register the people there. Ask do you want to stay and demonstrate loyalty to the Jewish Democratic State of Israel.
    This will require learning Hebrew; your children will be required to provide civil national service at age 18 to 20.
    You will be required to inform on anyone planning terrorist acts including family members. This will be a condition of residency!
    If after 10 years of residency they wish to apply for citizenship they may. There then will be at least a two year period to investigate if they have successfully fulfilled the requirements of residency prior to bestowing citizenship. If they and their immediate family have met the conditions citizenship can be bestowed upon them.

    Once Israel has successfully integrated Area C it can then work on Areas A and B. Unless you can be sure you know how to successfully help Arabs emigrate overseas and integrate others why would anyone in their right mind make the approximately 1,500,000 Arabs (of Area A/B in Judah & Samaria) Israeli residents yet alone citizens. This is a terrorist’s dream, to be able to freely travel all over Israel with an Israeli ID card.

    Walk before you run and go step by step in this super risky proposition of incorporating a massive amount of Arabs into the State of Israel. If you can be highly confident that you can help large amounts of Arabs emigrate then you could start annexing parts of Area A (a City at at a time). Israel should NOT bring an Arab Trojan Horse into Zion. If you can NOT make sure a large amount of Arabs will emigrate, not do annex these areas and make these people residents.

  33. @ honeybee:
    http://www.thelawfareproject.org/BDS_Analysis.pdf

    Nonsense. The Ukrainians have open borders to their West, and open seacoasts. Gaza does not. The Ukraine has open airports. Gaza does not. They are certainly better armed than the Gazans, which indicates independence. They may be under attack, but they are independent.

    Señora, tú ere loca. ¡Bastante con tus mentiritas!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYumP5zW2Hg

    ¡Cuidado! Hablo su lengua. Yo sé la verdad.

    Cuando me criticas, hacerlo con sinceridad.

  37. @ honeybee:
    We wanted a Jewish land so our neighbors would be Jewish and not some group that wants to throw us, and our children, down a Well.

    Okay, but don’t call it sharing then.

  38. CuriousAmerican Said:

    Gaza was not made independent.

    Israel made Gaza independent, Gaza threw independence away. Think, with all that beautiful coast line, what the Gazans could have accomplished. But no, they want to dig tunnels and kill Jews.

  39. @ dove:
    You always suggest that the way to deal with them is by making concessions.

    You are not paying attention. I recommended paying them to leave, so you could avoid concessions.

    @ dove:
    There has not been one Jew in Gaza in years – but they still won’t leave the Jews alone…. ever!

    Having one’s seacoast blocked after 3 – 6 miles, and travel restricted makes people angry. Now, maybe these are necessary for security, but they do not make friends.

    Israel withdrew to the perimeters. Gaza was not made independent.

  40. @ CuriousAmerican:

    I know the Palestinians are a problem; but they do exist

    so does evil

    And it is unwise to deny evil. Hence it is unwise to deny Palestinians.

    Deal with the problem. Do not deny it.

    What Jew and especially an Israeli Jew could ever deny that these people who call themselves Palestinians (who were actually extinct many years ago) exist?

    Every time a rock is thrown at a Jew when they near the Temple – they know these savages exist. Every time a suicide bomber strikes they know these savages exist. Every time a new tunnel or shipment of weapons is discovered we know these savages exist.

    You always suggest that the way to deal with them is by making concessions. There has not been one Jew in Gaza in years – but they still won’t leave the Jews alone…. ever!

  41. CuriousAmerican Said:

    Zionism wanted a Jewish land, not a shared land. So sharing was not in mind.

    We wanted a Jewish land so our neighbors would be Jewish and not some group that wants to throw us, and our children, down a Well.

  42. @Curious American

    My point is that the Jews got what they wanted. That was the collective political rights to political self-determination giving them the right to sovereignty when they believed it would be practical to assert them. That is what the Mandate for Palestine says: That under the trust the Jews can settle immediately and their right to settle in Palestine would not be subject to political agreement — they could settle “as a matter of right”. They also got the trustee placed under supervision of the League of Nations Permanent Mandates Commission so that Perfidious Albion could not renege on its commitment. The British got a temporary legal domain over those political rights (the right to administration of government) and the Jewish People got a beneficial interest in the right subject to conditions. They were to vest in the Jewish People when the conditions were met.

    The paperwork concentrated on the first step of two steps 1. The National Home for the Jewish People, and 2. Statehood for them. Why? Not because statehood was not intended but because the British did not want to stir up the Arabs. You don’t put something in trust intending the trusteeship to last forever.

    I agree with Bear Klein on each of his four arguments supporting Jewish Statehood and I agree with the proposition that the world should be educated on the equities involved in the “Palestinian” – Jewish People conflict before a remedy is devised that would solve it. At the present time, a Palestinian claim to statehood is widely respected as noted not long ago in the fuss that erupted when the Australian Foreign Minister, Julie Bishop refused to go along with the world view that “There is no credible legal basis at all for the view that the settlements are legal, unless the self-serving legal fantasies of Israel and its Zionist supporters are naively accepted.”The truth is exactly the opposite.

    Israel had better do a far better job of assembling the relevant facts and law just as a few of us have. This is an important pre-requisite of establishing a remedy for the conflict as emphasized by the late Salomon Benzimra. I don’t know of any facts supporting an Arab claim under International Law. The WWI Allies won the land from the Ottoman Empire in a defensive war expending their treasure and the blood of their young men to do so. Their decision to allocate 99% of the collective rights to Political Self-Determination to the existing Arab populations of Syria (and Lebanon) and Mesopotamia (Iraq) should be honored as should their decision to allocate less than 1% to the Jewish People, whose rule should be deferred until their growth in population made it more feasible. At San Remo the Allies rejected the claim of the Arabs. Their ruling is res judicata and there is no reason for its adjudication once again.

    There is no evidence that the alleged “Palestinian Arab People” were ever a people. That was a lie invented by the Soviet dezinformatsiya in 1964 when they drafted the first PLO charter in Moscow. It was invented for two reasons. 1. To reframe the conflict by turning the Arab “Goliath” into the Palestinian “David” and turning the Jewish David into the Israeli “Goliath”. At the same time the Soviets were promoting the invention they were also promoting at the UN international conventions such as the ICCPR that elevated the right of a “people” to self-determination from a right under natural law to a right under international law. See the International Convenant on Civil and Political Rights. Even if they were a genuine people they would have no right to statehood under international law because the Jewish People’s state was in existence from 1967.

  43. @ Bear Klein:
    So what is clear the Arabs want the Jews out. They will lie and change history anything to get rid of the Jews in the Land and State of Israel. If they would be willing to share the land peacefully the Jews would agree. They do not

    Israel defines itself as the state of the Jewish people everywhere, not as the state of all its citizens. So the concept of sharing was not in mind, rather in 1948, Israel – rightly or wrongly – wanted to divide (NOT SHARE) – the land.

    The Arabs wanted a federal arrangement over Palestine which was technically sharing under a unitary state. That can be sourced from more than just Time magazine. The McDonald White Paper of 1939 – which was eventually accepted in 1940 by the other leading Arab families – offered a federal sharing arrangement. This was not acceptable to Ben Gurion.

    Labor Zionism which stood for Jewish Labor, strongly resisted integrated unions. No sharing there. In fact, when the postal workers (both Jewish and Arab) struck the British in 1946, Labor Zionists opposed cooperation between the two groups, even in unions. No sharing there.

    No sharing in Labor Zionism, rather exclusion.

    I am not saying the present day Arabs are better, but in 1948, the Jews did not want to share the land. Oddly, the Arab leadership were willing to share under a federal arrangement.

    This does not make the Zionist position wrong but rather it means that sharing was not in mind.

    Zionism wanted a Jewish land, not a shared land. So sharing was not in mind.

  44. @ CuriousAmerican:As Ted said he posted the article for the pictures.

    In any case the Palestinian – Israeli conflict at this point in history will either continue in its spirals of periodic violence until either the Palestinians start educating their children that Jews also have rights and agree to live in the Land of Israel in peace. Not Likely at all!!

    Second possibilty, We will at some point decide to wipe out or jail the terrorist and their supporters.

    We have the capability to inflict complete defeat on them. So it is up to our determination. They do not have the ability to defeat us.
    Arguing points of contention does no matter as this a 100 year old conflict and the Palestinian refusal to accept our presence has made it zero sum conflict.

    We continue to thrive and progress as a people and country and they are stuck in mental quicksand (not accepting reality) and/or the destroyed rubble of Gaza.

  46. @ Bear Klein:
    CA does not want to grasp or is unable to comprehend that in Israel it matters what the Jews do and not what others including himself say.

    What does that got to do with weak arguments?

    The point of this thread was an article that made some preposterous statements.

  49. @ honeybee:
    CA does not want to grasp or is unable to comprehend that in Israel it matters what the Jews do and not what others including himself say.