Prof. Ya’akov Peretz Golbert
The Israeli cabinet will be asked to follow Prime Minister Netanyahu down the path of appeasement of America at the expense of Israeli legitimacy, dignity and security. It will not be “just this one time.” This capitulation will be followed, as it always has been, with the demand for more and more capitulations, ever deeper and more dangerous to Israeli security.
Nor is it as if Obama is an aberration that Israel has only to wait out and his administration will be replaced with one firmly in tune with Israeli security. Obama’s policies are not different from those of his predecessors. It is only that he is more abrasive and more openly hateful toward Israel. Condoleezza Rice worked for George Bush, remember, as did Colin Powell. Clinton could not do enough for Arafat and the Palestinian cause but he smiled at us and said nice things the whole time. Who can forget the open hostility of the Bush-Baker team? Israel’s great friend, Reagan, was the one who opened the door to the PLO. Need we talk about Carter? Henry “Let-them-bleed” Kissinger denied Israel its victory in the Yom Kippur War. He worked for Nixon, remember. In fact, the State Department and the whole American foreign policy establishment have been anti-Israel since the Balfour Declaration, as has been amply explained by the late Shmuel Katz, among others. (It is all conveniently compiled and copiously documented at http://www.hirhome.com/israel/hirally.htm.) Each concession to Israel’s enemies weakens Israel and makes it more difficult to stand up to the next demand. Clearly, however, the day will come when Israel will have to say “no” to America. The sooner, the better, even though Israel is extremely isolated at this moment.
Part of the explanation for Israel’s hesitation in taking out the Iranian nuclear threat seems to be the fear that Israel will not be able to survive the resulting diplomatic fall-out. The world will immediately condemn Israel for its “aggression” and even states that fear a nuclear Iran will join in. Sanctions may well be imposed, both diplomatic and economic, and Israel will be utterly isolated. A universal boycott might be imposed. Even collective military action such as was turned against Serbia cannot be ruled out. So goes the fear.
The alternative, however, is a slow death imposed incrementally by means of what is called, in Orwellian deceit, the “peace process,” which is the contemporary equivalent of “Arbeit Macht Frei.” The idea of reliance on the “enlightened nations of the world” to extricate Israel, and indeed the world, from another descent into barbarism and brutality is a vain hope. Europe has decided to surrender and anyway is quite comfortable with the notion that the world is better off without Israel and the Jews. America is currently being led resolutely in the same direction, which anyway was always the orientation of the State Department. Nor is Israel the only country to feel exposed and abandoned by the withdrawal of America power. (See, e.g., Peter Lee, South Korea reels as US backpedals, http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/LG24Dg01.html).
Israel, however, does not have to accede. Israel is not without alternatives or without recourse. Israel is able to go it alone, against the will of the USA, the “Quartet”, the UN and the Arab League. There are several powerful tools in Israel’s hands.
Israeli military technology. Not many people realize that Israel is the country of innovation in hi-tech munitions and in asymmetrical warfare. Israel is practically in a position to embargo hi-tech weaponry from any country in the world, including the US. The Popeye missile is hardly even the threshold.
Israel’s military technology is very advanced and many of Israel’s technologies and products are unique and superior. The world will not likely boycott them. As the worldwide jihad expands, Israel’s expertise and experience in combating Islamic terror will become a more and more marketable commodity. The non-Islamic world has reason to realize that Israel’s war against Islamic terror is their own war and not colonialist apartheid oppression, as it is portrayed.
Israeli governments seem chronic in their underestimation of the value to the world of Israeli military technology. Israeli electronics took apart the best Soviet made anti-aircraft systems in Syria back in 1967, to the shock of the Soviets. Development of Israeli military technology has accelerated since then. Many of those technologies have been acquired in secret by the United States, in some cases via threats and intimidation.
Likewise, intelligence supplied to the United States by Israel has been invaluable. Yet, to Americans, seeing only billions of dollars of “aid” being given to Israel and not seeing that, in fact, the US gets more than its money’s worth, Israel looks like a beggar at the gate.
On the other side, Israel has come to see itself as a welfare dependent on the American dole. Israel has to insist that acquisition by foreign governments of Israeli arms technology, consultation and training (in urban warfare in Iraq, for example) and other strategic cooperation be done only in public and not secretly. Insisting on legitimacy means refusing to be treated like the “other woman” in order not to offend the Muslim states.
Withstanding international pressures. Israel need not fear international pressure, even boycotts and sanctions. There are too many other countries in positions similar to Israel’s with regard to Moslem minorities and external defense to isolate Israel for long. India, for one, has growing and developing ties with Israel owing in part to the fact that its history of appeasement of its Moslem minority has not bought it peace and security. It has need of technology sharing and joint projects with Israel and that would likely continue despite international sanctions. Long ago, Israel scrapped the jet fighter project, the Lavi, under US pressure and closed Beit Shemesh Engines. But Israel makes its own rocket engines, which function under more extreme conditions than jet aircraft engines. Israel certainly could also make engines for jet aircraft. India is eager for closer cooperation with Israel and making military aircraft in partnership with India alone would create a market large enough to enjoy economies of scale. China and Japan have found collaboration with Israel very productive for other reasons.
An Israel-India Alignment. President Obama, in his arrogance, has hectored not only Israel to surrender to Islamic demands, but also India, whom he told that the reason they do not have peace with Pakistan is because India has not surrendered Kashmir. This he could actually say when Pakistan is in grave danger of being taken over by the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
In fact, Israel and India are natural allies in many ways and complementary to each other in many ways. Their combined resources, brain power, technology and manufacturing capacity would be a formidable combination from the outset. If ties with India were to be pursued with utmost urgency and Israeli foreign policy reoriented immediately to make India the central point, India could replace both the US and Europe in Israel’s foreign and defense policy.
Additional states for such an alignment. There are other states that President Obama has already alienated which could be brought into such a grouping. Colombia, with the assistance of Israeli military advisors, is near to victory against Marxist rebels. They have found that President Obama’s emissaries have been in contact with the rebels, even before he was sworn into office, with a view to actually taking their side. Almost the same story is taking place in Sri Lanka.
Taiwan is another pariah state with which Israel might develop important relations. Israel has a choice between Taiwan and China, of course, but China is not averse to doing deals that are inimical to Israel’s vital interests and, if pushed to decide, Israel might consider whether a permanent relationship with Taiwan might not be more advantageous.
Short term strategic cooperation with India. In the immediate future, Israel and India might do something of utmost importance together, that being the twin threats of Iranian nuclear weapons and Pakistani nuclear weapons. The former directly threatens Israel. The latter directly threatens India, particularly if Pakistan becomes a failed state, which it almost is already. If Israel and India help each other, it might be possible to eliminate both nuclear threats. To fly from India might not bring Israel closer to the Iranian nuclear plants but it would have the advantage of not having to cross airspace under American control. It is not clear to me whether it is necessary at all to use manned aircraft for the purpose when Israel has both ballistic missiles and cruise missiles that could do the job.
Nor is it necessary to destroy the nuclear facilities themselves. The nuclear facilities cannot function without infrastructure. They are useless without electricity and water and raw materials. Israel can certainly cripple Iran’s infrastructure, bomb the Majlis and the mullas and the Presidential Palace and even hunt down the scientists involved in the nuclear project. And the same is true of Pakistan.
Of course, the world would be outraged and might even apply serious sanctions against Israel and India. Both Israel and India could withstand those. It would require considerable economic reorientation and restructuring but it is high time that took place anyway. Both countries would emerge stronger, more independent and more democratic for having done so.
Israel can expect to meet concerted opposition from the world to these measures. Israel can be expected to be condemned, vilified and loathed. Israel can even expect that there might be sanctions imposed. On the other hand, submission and obsequiousness and “goodwill gestures,” “confidence building measures,” territorial concessions, unconditional unilateral withdrawal from southern Lebanon and Gaza and restraint have brought nothing but condemnation, vilification and loathing, deligitimation and calls for Israel’s destruction (meaning genocide) when it defended itself. As long as Israel still exists, more concessions will be demanded of her. In contrast, Israeli and Jewish prestige and acceptance were never higher than following the Six-Day War when the nations feared and respected Israel.
The same is true of India. Who believes that territorial demands on India would cease if India were to relinquish Kashmir? “Mughalistan” is already an objective with a plan to separate the whole of northern India into a continuous Muslim state incorporating everything from Pakistan to the eastern border of India and even a part of the coast of Myanmar. (See http://factindiablog.wordpress.com/2009/01/04/moghulistan/ )
Nor would demands stop there. India, like Israel, was under Islamic rule for centuries and is, therefore, in Dar al Islam, the domain of Islam and Muslims consider India’s existence illegitimate and an affront to Islam. Anything resembling peace can only be achieved the way Spain and Portugal achieved it for five centuries and that is by being so strong for so long that the Muslims take it off the agenda for the foreseeable future. In the age of global jihad, it will not even come off the agenda but there is nothing to be gained from trying to appease it.
Mer, Please stop it. This is a political discussion.
To begin with, Madonna, is following some sort of Jewish off-shoot called Kabbala, so that is why I very logically wrote that she was as Catholic as you are.
Secondly, I have yet to see either you, or any of your Canadian warriors respond to Max’s derogatory comments about Canada, whereas you folks were all in a group hissy fit over my very reasonable demand that Stephen Harper WALK the TALK on anti-Semitism.
What kind of judgment are you folks operating on????
Now you are pretending umbrage to avoid what Max had written, pretending no one will notice.
A.E. If your REAL motive is to TURN ME OFF CONGRATULATIONS! You HAVE SUCEEDED!
Illuminating thoughts? What, are you a comedian now??? I told you could make big money with your exciting thoughts working with Mel Gibson.
Once again my illuminating thoughts are in the spam catcher –should they not be shredded – stay tuned to enjoy.
Don’t shoot me, I’m only the messenger. You can use the truth to set yourself free or ignore it and remain enslaved.
I do not take you personally, You cannot achieve any level of thought higher than the reality model of which you have been indoctrinated. I constantly probe the indoctrinations of others to see what it might take to deprogram the damage the cult process has done – to burst the protective bubble of delusion.
What “Canada”? A collection of multiple processes is not one thing and is not a “Canada”. This is the point, this is an illusion that you have been brainwashed with. the government is not “Canada”, the power elite is not Canada”, the mountains are only the mountains. There is only a “Canada” under certain circumstances such as total war or crossing the border. This illusion that all is one is what keeps you enslaved.
It’s good that Harper supports Israel, it’s bad that the country is under the thumb of economic fascists and that the politicians work for the power elite etc etc. Each thing is in itself and must be critically examined for itself. Only small key elements have to be changed to change an evil political system into a good one that works for all human beings.
For someone to think “Gee I like maple syrup on my pancakes, therefore I will not examine the fascist nature of the economic system and I will blindly protect it and because a lot of Maple Syrup comes from Canada and I live in “Canada’s” geographic boundaries therefore I will cheer for a thousand social things I do not know about and do not understand (and will now never know about because the MSM hides them and I will now refuse to examine them)” – this quite absurd and basically insane.
Question – how does an entire population reach this level of insanity? Especially when the USA produces large quantities of maple syrup as well? 😉
One answer is social indoctrination and the manipulation of identity through early exposure, indoctrination and encouragement in illusory partisanship in spectator sports.
Spectator Sports and Spectator Spectacles far rather than being the Soma of the masses is more like the Scopalamine..
I envy you people – being exposed to a genuinely new paradigm must be like being smashed by the freight train of paradise. It is your chance to be reborn from the resulting ideational shock.
Madonna is as Catholic as you are. Perhaps you prefer Canada to be spanked by Mad Max as he did in No. 38 above:-))
NOT AT ALL A.E. Save your sexual inuendos for YOUR Catholic American Madonna. She likes that kind of talk. I on the other hand DO NOT.
I looked in vain for any specifics that Yonatan is having a problem understanding, and all I found are more generalities.
The only person to mention this is the one that ignores all forms of evidence shown to him/her – you know, the american mouthpiece. Why are you still here? You’ve been taken to the woodshed so many times, yet you continue to point your nose up in the air and act as if its all good. Pull your fingers out of your ears.
Mer,
Oink, oink! I see the Mad Max has left you speechless:-))
No more LOL for Mad Max????? Awwww!!!!
BTW, where are all the other Canadian warriors who got wet dreams over Stephen Harper’s clever choice of words?????
Max. Go suck an egg. A.E. Your a pig.
Has anyone noticed that Yonatan is never able to identify exactly what he is talking about?
I wonder if Mer is still laughing at this future script for a possible Mad Max movie:-)) Where are all the Canadian patriots who got orgasmic thrills up their legs when Stephen Harper talked the talk about confronting anti-Semitism and then got upset with me for politely demanding that he walk the talk when York University presented a great opportunity for someone in power in Canada to actually speak out against anti-Semitism. Do they agree with Max that “Canada has a social system founded and operated on fascism, exploitation and repression.”
A good opportunity to practice ego dis-identification. You can practice removing yourself from the manipulative lies from others about your identity. Whatever happens in the “game” has nothing to do with you. Think of it as being on Mars. No matter who wins or loses you personally have done nothing to affect the outcome. Therefore you have no reason to feel important about yourself (BIRG – Bask in Reflected Glory) or to feel bad about (CORF – Curt off reflected Failure). And you cant break the illusion that some abstract game is equivalent to your ego identity which is equivalent to your country (Canada). In reality your “country” is many many things and the winning or losing or playing of a sports game between two teams of millionaires which is also making some corporation rich (and they are not sharing any of that profit with people in Canada ie the spectators) does not in any way validate the various government process the various social process (many of them quite evil and repressive) nor the cause of war nor anything else (such as a government sponsored Islamofascist denial policy) as “good” or “validated”.
The game is simply a game , in itself, for itself and of itself – it is in no way you nor your identity.
The teams are completely interchangeable as are the players – this is a good opportunity to learn to dis-identify with partisanship. Do not allow your identity to take the false illusion of a “side”. Instead enjoy the various actions of the sport – cheering whenever a good play is made no matter which side makes it.
This is a good opportunity to set your mid free. If you can do this you will empower your existence and remove all power from those who use nationalism to manipulate you and make your existence mean nothing while giving you the illusion that you are wonderfully important when in fact you have given up the power of your existence to become someone else’s sockpuppet.
Do this and you can free yourself from being the sockpuppet of MSM propaganda.
In truth the propaganda system begins it’s brainwashing of the population by teaching them false identities and giving them false ideas about themselves through the mechanism of spectator sports.
Once this is done the process of identity manipulation is transferred to MSM propaganda news and the population can be manipulated to believe and do almost anything.
Canada has a social system founded and operated on fascism, exploitation and repression. It is maintained through a system of deceitful social indoctrination and propagandization through its MSM. Through the use of Spectator Sports and things like National and International Games the Power elite can manipulate the population to support the “system and feel proud” of it without knowing what it is.
If some “team” (of millionaires) in an artificial situation can score a goal or win a game then the people can be manipulated to believe something “good” has happened to them and that they “are important” and they will feel “proud to be a Canadian” which means they will support unilaterally and unconditionally a social system without critical investigation of it. Indeed thereafter they will support the authority of that system without even knowing what it is – the process of identity manipulation puts the cork in the bottle of their critical thinking and they can never get out.
The Chinese do the same thing – except they are much more obvious and much more rabid about it (they use mass rallies based demonstration sports and entertainment – singing concerts) because they have total control. Canada’s owners (the power elite who run Canada as a fascist economic system) are seeing to imitate the Chinese system of propaganda manipulation and the two systems of propagandization are becoming more and more identical. This is because Canada is converting to the same system of totalitarianism by means first through the economic system instead of the political. The endgame is very close probably with in 15 to 20 years or sooner.
So.. enjoy resisting the game. (Maybe do like Harry Palmer did and crush a rusty nail in you palm to keep yourself from being hypnotized) 😉
And you are the equivalent of a paid american mouthpiece. Keep speaking politician, its how I know when something is a lie.
Nice try at chest thumping, but Israel has had opportunities to kick the living shit out of the Arabs in 1947, 1956, 1967 and 1973, not to mention S. Lebanon and Gaza and did not finish the job.
Israel is a sovereign country that marches to its own drummer. People like you and Yamit and others keep saying that Israel does not need US aid and is quite capable of going it alone. Of course that is supremely ignorant poppycock but it probably makes you feel better. However the same folks then turn around and claim that the Israel that can go it alone and needs no assistance is being held back by those whose aid it does not need. LOL.
I hate to burst your bubble, but Israel is responsible for every decision it makes, in spite of all the assistance and advice we may give them. I have already explained to you how and why it should tell the current US administration to stuff it. The same reasons I use today were available throughout – at least after 1948.
The problem is that some of you are the Jewish equivalent of Hamas and it’s a good thing you are nowhere near positions of influence in Israel.
Max. lol eh? TIME OUT. Grey Cup Sunday.
Well then I would say you were a member of the NDP or some other group of similar like-minded Canadians,
To which we would then, finally, be allowed to kick the living shit out of them – instead of being put on hold by the US because it doesn’t suit their interests. Like I said, a double game. You’re such a politician AE. Can’t trust a damn word you say.
Of course you would because the US guarantees Canada’s security too, which allows Canadians to blithely spend their money on social programs by saving on national defense expenditures.
This would be more akin to what Israel owes the US, even though we do not expect anything other than the solid alliance we have with Israel notwithstanding the few ungrateful and mean-spirited quibblers.
Canada does this already by being lax about the potential jihadis they let into the country. You have no way of KNOWING what they are plotting, unless you have some magical powers of mind-reading.
If you are talking about our aid to Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia the analogy is false, with all due respect. The actual effect is exactly the opposite of what you are suggesting. These Sunni-dominated countries are even more concerned about Iran than Israel – whom they are not concerned about – though you don’t want to be told this because of your worm’s eye view of the situation. Without the influence the US gains in these countries, the Russians or Chinese or Venezuelans may step into the vacuum and Israel would have even more hostile neighbors on its borders.
A.E. Let me put it another. Suppose here in Canada I learned of terrorists plotting to blow the NY subway. Would I not OWE it to the U.S. to inform them? But lets just say I also decided to feed clothe and shelter these terrorists and provide aid that I knew was going to be use to fund a terrorist attack? Wouldnt that be hypocritical and DANGEROUS. And then lo and behold one day they decide to use me as a human shield to carry out the attack. That is just an analogy but IT IS what the U.S. is doing to Israel. It is not up to me a foreigner to straighten out YOUR American Jews.
I have told you so many times, your view is one-sided, narrow-minded and self-serving and ignores the fact that Israel is not an American colony or protectorate – at least officially. The US has other responsibilities, and the Israeli government realizes this, whereas some of you with no responsibilities may not.
For example, as bad as the arms for the Saudis may seem to you narrow-minded Israeli partisans, the alternative would be them buying their arms elsewhere, perhaps from the Chinese or Soviets, and this would result in less US influence on them and more hostility from them towards Israel.
Why are you all so willfully blind that you can’t see this?
The US cannot, by definition, be “no better friend” if it has done and is doing more harm than good to Israel as Yamit, Yonatan, Mer and apparently you, also believe. I reject this notion completely.
Israel has no better friend than the US BECAUSE the US has done more good than harm to Israel, at tremendous cost in terms of money and implacable enemies, and the Israeli leaders know it.
There is no contradiction because what I am suggesting will never happen. It is a way to shut down any bullshit like “talks” and “negotiations”. If you read the entire entry you would know this.
YOUR trust? Don’t make me laugh.
Talk to Yamit. Apparently, your definition of “blood libel” does not quite fit its common usage, as we can see from the following:
I apologize. I did not mean to be personally hurtful.
This is pure poppycock and similar to what Yonatan wrote above, so my response is the same as in No. 26 above.
We do not OWE Israel anything, nor anyone else for that matter, like the Iraqis and Afghans whom we are liberating and providing with an opportunity for freedom and democracy. America has shed blood and treasure for many oppressed people in the world, but more is always expected from us. The ingratitude just amazes me.
In the meantime, Israel and most Jews could not even raise their considerable voice when genocide was taking place against others after having the moral capital to do so from the horror of the Holocaust. In fact, American Jews have become so blase they blissfully voted for an anti-Semite for president.
Let me know when Stephen Harper WALKS the TALK.
Just in case the proceeds are bubkis, I would settle for you refraining from driving a wedge between Israel and the US by taking its assistance out of context and perspective. It would also help if you could help us get the American Jewish support for Obama down below the current 52%, which is still a crying shame.
As usual – you have totally ignored what I have written and instead started waving the flag. Face it, you have lost our trust. You can dance around and say that we don’t count, but you know in the end that this isn’t true.
Blood libel – from wiki”
How exactly is what I said “blood libel”?
YOU ARE RIDICULOUS
No. It is YOU who have a blind spot. Israel is not a colony of America. America is Israel’s ONLY REAL ALLY. It has proven this by putting its money where its mouth is. It has used its UNSC veto time and again on nehalf of Israel. It has guaranteed Israel’s survival “no matter what the cost”, unlike Stephen Harper’s empty words.
While I point out here how ungrateful some Israpundits are for all this, I am also cognizant that they do not speak for the Israeli government who knows how much Israel needed America in the past – and in the future.
This is a blood libel and the Israeli government knows it, which is what really counts.
You don’t see your own contradiction in your arguments?
Do you go on so just to read your own stuff in print? You rattle off talking points that are shallow no depth and usually inaccurate.
AE. Why must ylou be so thick headed. We have told you so many times, facts which support our relationship with the US is a mixed blessing. Yet you choose to ignore those facts and keep reiterating your fixed viewpoint.
We would all be better off if you would acknowledge those facts and then go on to argue that even so, Israel has no better friend and can’t get on without the US.
A.E. You just love to take things out of context and go to extremes dont ya? Sorry but I am not going to let you yank my chain. However I do take issue with two points. Please refrain from lumping me in with who you view to be Christian haters. That is hurtful. I base people on their own individual merits regardless of their religion. There IS a difference. Secondly I did not say that the U.S. hasnt done ANY good. I said they have done MORE harm THAN good. They have vetoed up til now because they KNEW they OWED it to Israel to do so. You STILL on that Harper kick? Get over it Mr Hot Air. Hey Yamit. We could do a Fundraiser for Israel. Want to write that book and all proceeds can go towards KILLING antisemitism.
AE – The things that you say that Israel should do are fine. You have a blind spot for the way that america has handled Israel though. You see dollars and unsc vetoes and ignore the terrible things that have allowed this to fester for so long. The us has played a double game with Israel from the outset and because of this, we would be better off to just say no and get on with what needs to happen. If that happened, you would see the mask slip off the us.
You need to get together with your fellow-Christian-hater, Yamit, and re-write the Bible and how Christianity started, not with Jesus, who was a devout, observant Jew who practiced all the rules and regulations of Judaism, which is why his fellow-Jews tried to save him from being cruxified by the Romans, but it was started by an evil man called Paul, so he could run around persecuting people, which Christians have been doing for 2,000 years now inspired by the founder of Christianity, the evil man, Paul.
Similarly, you three can publish your version of history – that the US has been threatening Israel since 1950 and that Israel has never received BILLIONS of the hard earned money of its citizens. You can pretend that US never supported Israel with UNSC vetoes and is currently plotting to destroy Israel, whereas the brave warrior Stephen Harper is going to confront the anti-Semitic US “no matter what the cost” and he and the Canadian Jews can ride off into the sunset holding hands and singing Kum-ba-ya, pretending York University was a bastion of free speech, Judaism and conservatism.
A.E. So easy for you to sit there and dictate from your white porcelain throne. The U.S has been THREATENING Israel since 1950 in regards to arms. I recently saw a program where back in 1950 the U.S. DEMANDED to check out Israels facilities. They should have supported Israel for seeing the need for weaponry for self defense. Its a good deterent. Israel set up a dummy control room. GOOD FOR THEM. Do you have the types of neighbouring countries that Israel does? The U.S. has done more harm than good to Israel.
Such destructive thinking can only harm Israel. Israelis should thank God that people who think like this are nowhere near the seat of power in Israel. Such childish and destructive thinking is deliberately intended to drive a wedge between Israel and its only real ally and benefactor in terms of money and armaments, and would doom Israel if followed.
Israel has already given up land it acquired while defending itself – which was a huge mistake – and got nothing in return, except even more demands and more conflict. Land acquired in defensive wars should never be returned without major concessions by the losing side. In this case the losing Palestinian side is trying to regain by coercion what it could not gain by force.
Israel should no longer compromise without two pre-conditions being met in advance of any talks or negotiations: a) a treaty accepting Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state, and b) a renunciation of violence by the Palestinians.
Why?
Because there can be no serious talks without such conditions. Any talks right now – when the UN and Obama are demanding concessions from Israel without any concessions in return – can only go against Israel’s interests, just as every treaty so far has done.
Why?
Because the Palestinians never hold up their part of any agreement.
Why?
Because they have no intentions of living alongside Israel. Never have. Never will. Israel’s only reasonable option in the current circumstances is to shut down all pretense that negotiations can lead to some mythical peace.
The Hamas Charter should be publicized widely and rubbed in Obama’s face, as often as it takes.
Reasonable people will support Israel when this is made clear, especially the vast majority of Americans who support Israel, notwithstanding those renegade American Jews who vote for Obama, now down to 52% of American Jews from the absurd 78% in 2008. Even the pro-Muslim Barack Hussein Obama will be unable to explain why he cannot accept such conditions as long as he is there for the next two years. Bibi’s tap dancing is designed to run out the clock on Obama.
Since the Palestinians have no intentions of accepting Israel or living alongside it, these demands will also end the farce that is currently going on, and the current status quo will prevail and continue indefinitely.
The final solution of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians will not come from bogus one-sided talks stacked against Israel, but from an all out and decisive war, which Israel should not provoke, but should decisively finish when the Muslims start one sooner or later. They should not waste the next opportunity after wasting all the other opportunities since 1947.
Israel must say “no” to the USA, and publicly, so the American people and their legislators understand and put pressure on the executive. As well as saying “no”, Israel must declare that it will not deal with any administration which does not clean up the State Dept and the CIA. One only needs to note how Powell and Rice were largely pro-Israeli, until they became Sectretaries of State.
With regard to arms, Israel must build its own planes, either alone or with India which is working with Russia on the next generation of fighters. The F-35 is too expensive, if it uses F-22 technology for stealth it will be out of service more than in the air, its VTOL feature is a lot of dead weight, it is not meeting its specifications, the US is quibbling about Israel servicing its own planes and it forbids Israel to use its own electronics. Further, Israel should build its own artillery again.
As regards the threat of sanctions, all Israel needs to do is to let the world know, that whatever harm a boycott or sanctions will cause it will be passed down ten-fold to the local Arabs who have brand-named themselves “Palestinians”
The biggest worry is that if Israel allows itself to be bullied and keeps appeasing mohammedans who are on a feeding frenzy of demands, war will break out and if Israel is hobbled by US back stabbing and allows itself to be put under IAEA supervision and stripped of its nuclear stockpile, its armed forces will be overwhelmed by the rocket barrages of its enemies. It needs to clearly tell the USA that it will not be subjected to the same IAEA that allowed muslim brother ElBaradei to protect Iran’s nuclear project and that jihadi rocket barrages will by stopped quickly by any means whatsoever.
Well Mr. HWSNBN,We may have many enemies all over the world but only a few who directly or potentially threaten our existence. That narrows my concept exponentially.
What else you got?
Very original! What about the little man who wasn’t there?
Yamit:
Given that Israel has enemies all over the world, attack the universe , nuke the world, decimate mars.
That will satisfy those primal urges of yours, Mr. Yambo.
Aaron A Kaplan
Mr. A. M. Kaplan. In my humble opinion, you might make beautiful music, but a political maven , you are not.
Yamit:
“Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad”
Medea by Euripides
More hate America than Israel! Take your NYT and wipe your ass with it as that is it’s true value. Much of the animus directed towards Israel is because many nations and peoples view Israel as a proxy and extension of America.
N. Korea has over 5000 long range artillery pieces zeroed in on Seoul. That also includes some 4000 American troops stationed along the DMZ, Now they can back that up with a few nukes so who is going to mess with them? The fear is not that they have nukes the fear is that they are considered a crazy state who might use them. Iran unlike Korea has a religious underpinning motivation to use nukes and that makes them more dangerous than N. Korea. In Both cases America and the West have shown themselves to be cowardly impotent. This is now Israels opportunity to regain her lost respect by the world if they attack Iran and all her existential enemies at the same time using what ever force is necessary to accomplish the pacification of her most threatening enemies.
Israel must delay if not prevent many Arab and Muslim nations from attaining Nukes and other WMD capabilities. Sitting on our hands and waiting for others to do it is stupid if not criminal.
Netanyahu , I thought, had learned his lesson when he was Prime Minister once before that appeasement particularly of America does not work. Actually Obama is doing us a favor by being outwardly and overtly hostile and antagonistic to Israel. I do believe that the God of Abraham will not look favorably upon anyone that risks Israel’s security including Netanyahu. Must stand up to the World and Obama in particular. Say NO>.. Only Nuke one of the Arab/Muslim countries or terrorist groups if the wind is blowing away from Israel.
I have no doubt there are alternative powerful weapons (Electromagnetic Pulse (not necessarily a nuke high up in the atmosphere) or another dangerous internet virus).. Israe, you will not be alone- even the meshegana American liberal Jews are starting to wake up from their Progressive coma and to defend Israel.. God bless Israel..
Aaron A Kaplan, Composer, http://www.aaronakaplan.com
It goes against the grain for Jews to say NO but we have been given NO CHOICE. I quite frankly dont care if I am hated because I look at the source it comes from. Its a compliment.
I agree; Israel must stop groveling before those, who do not have Israels interest at heart. Christians overwelmingly support Israel; there is never any doubt.
Most of all, Israel has the support of the most Almighty-and that my friends should never be doubted.
Laura:
Wake up time,Israel is not Columbia. Columbia is a sovereign state that does not genuflect daily towards the U.S.
Columbia’s enemies both foreign and domestic are not in the millions.
In other words, just the same as it is now.
Then why doesn’t Israel employ those same methods to defeat its own enemies?
Israel should be feared and hated more than it is already, and abstain completely from trying to be popular. IT IS AFTER ALL A FUTILE GESTURE TRYING TO BE LOVED. We are the most reviled people on earth and we should continue to be abhorred. Abhorrent people are survivors. Just think of the rattle snake.
* We should reoccupy Gaza,
* We should reoccupy the Judea and Samaria,
* We should eject totally all Arabs from the territories we occupy,
* We should show no mercy – kill those who refuse to leave.
* We should attack, decimate, and occupy Syria, lebanon and border areas of Egypt and Jordon.
* We should show absolutely no mercy.
* We should nuke and destroy totally Iran.
.* We should Show no mercy.
* We should- finally revoke Oslo and all prior agreements and tell the world to take a hike.
Remind me if I left anything out. have a fine day.
Write me all about your trip and send pictures.
Perfect Yamit.
Like I’ve always maintained: Israel must work to be feared, not loved.
The best way for Israel to say no would be first to announce that we are finished with Oslo Accords. Regard the PA as enemies of the state. Then with the first serious provocation destroy the PA, their leadership and all infrastructure connected with them. If the North becomes directly aggressive, we do the same to them as well. If Syria attacks nuke them. Israel must regain her deterrence and respect in the world and that is not gotten by appeasement especially to Terrorists that we have the capability of crushing quickly and if carried out correctly with purpose, force and determination could be done quite easily.
That should send the proper NO message to America and everyone else. With America we are doomed without America we have a good chance. Those are the choices we face.
America should keep their F-35’s we can do just fine without them.