By Ted Belman
When I first posted Obama’s speech to AIPAC, I said he reversed everything and stunned AIPAC and me. Within 24 hours, his campaign corrected him.
Some say he lied, others that he caved under pressure. I reject both of these.
The way I see it is that this was a very important speech as it was to his campaign as the Democratic nominee. I am sure that the speech was written by a knowledgeable Jew in collaboration with others and finally vetted by Obama himself. All his positions and previous statements were recalibrated for the national campaign. In it he was at pains to stress he was not soft on defense and was a friend of Israel.
Heretofore he had not been committal on the peace process but here he was clear he backed the peace process, with one difference, namely that he favoured an undivided Jerusalem. Within 24 hours this one difference was corrected.
“I will take an active role, and make a personal commitment to do all I can to advance the cause of peace from the start of my administration.” he said. For me, this is more frightening than comforting. This was short hand for forcing Israel to capitulate.
With all the care and attention that probably went into that speech, how could he possibly have not appreciated what his Jerusalem statement meant. It meant the end of the peace process and maybe even his assassination. It also meant he was totally at odds with his foreign policy team. I even wrote that he and his team had no choice but to part company.
It was so much in error that it was corrected within hours. We must now take a look at what wasn’t corrected because the correction implies that everything else was agreed upon.
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“but any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel’s identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognized and defensible borders. Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided”
Favouring Israel’s identity as a Jewish state doesn’t not mean no right of return, only no unbridled right of return. At least that’s something, but not much.
The Roadmap sought “secure and recognized” borders pursuant to Res 242. In previous governments both in the US and Israel “secure” meant defensible. Livni at one time argued against the word defensible because the Roadmap only required secure borders. When Bush was last in Israel he argued for secure and defensible borders and Obama in his speech did likewise.
Both words are open to interpretation. In the final analysis, who is to decide what they mean. To my mind, it is impossible to reconcile the greenline with mutual exchanges favoured by the Roadmap with secure and defensible borders. Something has got to give.
But back to the error. What must he have been thinking.
Ted,
you do not need to be Einstein or Freud to see that Obama is a nothing but a liar. If you grasp that much at this straw Hussein Obama, than you’re really desparate.
The real question is not why did Obama say this and that, but why did YOU say what you said!
OK Ted keep on dreaming, but you could wake up when it’s too late, ever heard of what happened to German Jewery which was psychologically similar to you ?!
Vince, what Sharon did in his vain attempt to circumvent the Bush / Saudi road map was indefensible. He betrayed his country and his people. In exchange for “disengagement” / expulsion / retreat, Ariel Sharon got a worthless letter from Bush recognizing certain facts on the ground in the “West Bank.” These are mostly larger Jewish communities adjacent to Jerusalem.
Now the administration is claiming the letter is not relevant. Secretary of State Rice and the State Department essentially claim the letter is null and void.
Clearly you are an apologist for evil. You are an apologist for evil men like George W. Bush. Bush can maintain his innocence until he is blue in the face and you can maintain Bush’s innocence in the day of judgment before the Almighty. I see you are white washing this evil man’s deeds. I expect you will stand with evil and evil doers as time progresses. It’s your choice You have made your choice.
He was the first to say out loud the policy that was Israel engaged in since Oslo. Who is silly enough to not recongize that that was to be the end-result of Oslo?
I disagree with the goal 100%, but I also disagreed with Olso. I dont discredit Bush for putting aside the BS.. it’s to his credit that he called a spade a spade.
And if Sharon was so concerned about being made into a new Czechoslovakia why did he leave Gaza?
In the GOP platform, notice the bolded part. It says leaving Gaza is Israel’s idea not Bush’s.
Vince, I’ve got something I want you to address about Daniel Pipes below. But first, there two important things you need to keep in mind. George W. Bush unveiled his vision for a Palestinian terror state early October 2001 — Bush is the first American president to make the establishment of a Muslim terror state in Israel a formal goal of U.S. policy. Sharon’s initial response before he was pounded into submission by then Secretary of State Colim Powell:
Now to Daniel Pipes Vince. Prior to the “disengagement” from Gaza Dr. Pipes wondered rhetorically, rather than forcibly expelling these Jews, why did Israel not simply remove IDF protection for Gaza’s settlement communities. After the criticism, Dr. Pipe claims he was taken out of context. In context could this comment be understood?
JOHN KING, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: As the president tries to build this international coalition, a major target of the White House effort, moderate Arab nations. But as the president reaches out to the Arab world, some tensions and remarkably blunt exchanges back and forth between the United States and a long- time ally.
(Placed in context: Shibley Telhami, a Middle East expert at the University of Maryland, agrees that Bush formally made creating a Palestinian state the goal of U.S. policy, largely to appeal to the Muslim world at a time when the United States had attacked Afghanistan. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/04/AR2005100401410.html)
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(voice-over): A truce after a rare and blunt war of words between Israel and the United States. In a statement issued late Friday, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon noted the, quote, “deep friendship and special relationship” between the two nations and saluted President Bush for a, quote, “bold and courageous decision to fight terrorism.”
It was an about-face from a day earlier, when Sharon lashed out.
KING: What angered Washington most was Sharon’s comparison to Europe ceding parts of Czechoslovakia to Hitler, suggesting that in its aggressive effort to court Arab nations for the coalition against terrorism, the United States was turning its back on Israel’s security.
ARI FLEISCHER, WHITE HOUSE SPOKESMAN: The president believes that these remarks are unacceptable. Israel can have no better or stronger friend than the United States, and better friend than President Bush.
KING: Secretary of State Colin called Sharon once to voice the president’s displeasure, then again later, after the prime minister agreed to issue a conciliatory statement.
George W. Bush and Karl Rove then strong-armed the 2004 Republican national platform writing committee to codify the following language in our national party platform (in part):
After doing a bit of reading, I have to conclude that the Gaza plan’s genesis was with Israel (Sharon) and that overtime as the plan became Israel policy, the US had no choice but to see it implemented.
The blame rests with Sharon’s government.
This article by Daniel Pipes provides some good counter-arguments:
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/04/sharons-gaza-withdrawal-made-in-washington.html
This blog is mentioned next
This is the rest of Pipe’s article
Sure:
http://web.israelinsider.com/views/6235.htm
Steve: I get a 404 on that link at Israelinsider.. can you give it again?
Unlike Obama, Bush is a strong leader; no question about it. Bush is a hands on administrator.
A few years back, as a life-long Republican, I might not have said this but since George W. Bush, I see the Republicans (my party) a greater threat to Israel and her security, than the Democrats. Bush has put Israel in a terrible position visa vis her enemies. But for George W. Bush, it is unlikely Israel would have retreated from Gaza.
Bush put Sharon under immense pressure. Bush has done enormous damage to Israel’s security.
Ted wrote:
Isn’t this standard U.S. policy? What is the difference between McCain and Obama? John McCain told Haaretz that as president, he would “micromanage” U.S. policy toward Israel and the Palestinians and would dispatch “the smartest guy I know” to the region…
Choose your poison?
Aron Klein from WND was interviewed by Michael Savage and it relates to Obama, Hamas, and Jimmy Carter, I recommend listening to interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrUUfzkiucc&feature=related
As mentioned earlier, Obama was taught in his early years the Qu’ran, which teaches that the end justifies
the means – in other words, lying is useful in obtaining the result you want.
When I say Obama lied, this does not mean he intentionally lied. In the final analysis it was lie. He unequivocally stated his support for an “undivided” Jerusalem that must remain the captital of Israel. The following day, under pressure from the jihadists, he reversed himself. A lie is a lie whether is is intentional or not.
The one thing that is apparent to me, having watched this man over the last several months, Senator Obama if elected president will be a weak president.
He did not diverge an iota from either Clinton then Bush. He used exact same sequence and terminology. Thus by accepting Bushes already in place policy he can start his administration in regards to Israel with his feet hitting the ground and running almost from the get go. Usually it takes any new administration up to a year before staff appointments are made and new policies and priorities decided upon. By taking Bushes already in place policies he can jump start his Israel/ Bush policies immediately. The only thing that can screw up his grand plan is the possibility of a new government here that will oppose his and bushes ME plans.
He was thinking “Damn, the other day I said the wrong concentration camp, then some other people were asking me about my ties to a Palestinian Professor. Hmmm. I bet I could upstage that old man McCain if I tickle the Jews ear with the candy they want to taste most…. Jerusalem undivided forever. Take that McBush!”