Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian jihadists

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1. @ Laura:

   Especially when it was being reported that they were looking for two other shooters.

   ….
   “The third terrorist” by jayna Davis…. ?
   Déjà vu all over again

2. @ yamit82:

   WASHINGTON’S NAVAL YARD MASSACRE: MORE THAN LIKELY A JIHADI ASSAULT! Commentary By Adina Kutnicki

   I believed this was the case as soon as I heard of the attack. Especially when it was being reported that they were looking for two other shooters. I don’t know what has become of that.

3. @ bernard ross:
   US plays Monopoly, Russia plays chess
   By Spengler

4. @ bernard ross:

   WASHINGTON’S NAVAL YARD MASSACRE: MORE THAN LIKELY A JIHADI ASSAULT! Commentary By Adina Kutnicki

5. bernard ross Said:

   this site is based in Moscow so it might be disinfo.

   Considered that as well. Just posted it without comment.

6. yamit82 Said:

   The “Muslim Brotherhood”, the CIA and the international support for the Islamists

   What is interestingly missing from the article is the Saudi relationship to the Muslim world League(MWL) formed in Mecca. the saudis have funded a great deal of MB charities world wide and I expect they fund and use them in america and EU. I think that the Egyptian MB has too much independence for the Saudis. They are used to being in charge of the Wahhabis and not used to Jihadis and clerics with their own ideas. I would not be surprised if Sauds find a way to reconstitute the MB leadership cadre in Egypt to their liking and more compliant. The wahhabi/salafis do not seek political control whereas the egyptian MB does. The egyptian MB and hamas were too close to Iran. I beleive the saudis would like to use the egyptian MB cannon fodder as jihadis but does not want to deal with a rambunctious and independent leadership.

7. @ yamit82:
   an interesting info on why ghadaffi ended up in the meat freezer

   But most recently there was one service in particular that King Abdullah won’t forget. In 2003, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak (the former commander of the air force) helped break up a hare-brained Qaddafi scheme to assassinate Abdullah when he was crown prince and de facto king. An Egyptian with close ties to the Saudis told me that to this day Abdullah believes that the Egyptian generals helped save his life. Abdullah’s connection with Egypt’s then is very personal.

   http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114468/why-saudi-arabia-helping-crush-muslim-brotherhood

8. @ yamit82: this site is based in Moscow so it might be disinfo. However, it is certainly feasible, and the “rebel side” had the motivation to draw Obama or Israel into the melee. certainly I would not put such a tactic beyond the AQ and GCC. I have also read reasonable arguments which accuse the Assad. I lean to it being a GCC/AQ operation but would not place any bets. I have accepted that I probably will not know the truth. I am more interested in where it is going, what will follow because everyone’s behavior has been very strange on this issue. I think that when it develops or unfolds we will see some clues as to what really took place. For all I know, it can be a jenin massacre story or a muhamed al dura story with the 2 sides bluffing as to who has the more convincing story to influence the outcome. As for the potential complicity of Obama or the brits you might like a comparable idea here on a different event but similar idea.
   http://www.thedailysheeple.com/my-elf-weapon-more-proof-navy-yard-shooter-targeted-with-mind-control-weapons_092013

9. The “Muslim Brotherhood”, the CIA and the international support for the Islamists

   The close links between the “Muslim Brotherhood” and the White House was highlighted by the Egyptian magazine Rose El-Youssef, which gave the names of the six members of the movement, working for the Obama Administration: Arif Alikhan, Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security, and one of the founders of the Global Islamic Organization, responsible for making contacts with the countries of the “Arab spring”; Elibiari Mohammed , a member of the Advisory Council on Homeland Security, known admirer of the founder of the modern Muslim fundamentalist Sayyid Qutb, and allegedly writer of Obama’s speech, demanding the resignation of Hosni Mubarak; Hussein Rashid, special envoy to the Muslim Confederation; Salam Al-Marayati, founder of the Muslim Council of Public Affairs; imam Mohamed Magid, director of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), which was founded by the “Muslim Brotherhood”, as well as adviser to the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI and the State Department; and Eboo Patel, member of the President’s Council of Religious Cooperation and the Association of Muslim Students, which the magazine regards as branches of the “Muslim Brotherhood.”

   Today, the “Muslim Brotherhood” is an international network, which includes: Hamas in Palestine, the Islamic Action Front in Jordan, numerous cells in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Sudan, and even Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. In total, the “Muslim Brotherhood” now has departments and centers in 30 countries. It is recognized as a terrorist organization in many countries around the world, including Russia.

   With active support from Washington and especially the CIA the “Muslim Brotherhood” has been able to establish a powerful position in many countries. It is considered by US intelligence as “a useful tool in the fight against unfavorable regimes”, the movement has strengthened its ranks to include not only ideologically loyal staff members, but also militants who have been involved in armed clashes with governments in Chechnya, Dagestan, Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria, and have already demonstrated their ability to use weapons in Egypt.

   While the general upsurge of support for the Islamist movement has not spread to all countries, I want to remind the “strategists” in Washington and Langley of a biblical commandment: “Do not make yourself out to be an idol! Or it will be too late!”

10. Dear Ted,
    although not directly related to this article I have a question. I am searching, and cannot find, an article which was an interview of a PA or Jordanian source earlier in the year that spoke of a peace deal in detail that was staged over 10 years. I think that either you or I posted this story. I think it may have been at the time of the revived confed story where that was in JP. If this rings a bell let me know please. I have had the suspicion that this deal was agreed and that all that we are seeing is just a show to unfold the deal.
    If there is a deal then everyone will seek to get points therefrom. For example, the EU ban makes little sense at a time when the Pals and Israel have re-entered negotiations. However, if there was a deal which they knew the outcome then the ban would become moot on the announcement of the deal. However, the EU would have chalked up points with the arab street and their internal muslims as their champions.
    Here’s another outrageous and outlandish idea: what if a deal had already been made with Assad wrt Syria and his stepping down. Crazy you say but think that a short while ago he was getting offers to leave and get asylum. what if he were offered billions by the GCC to make a deal. He could put on a show and leave over time with Billions. Or he could stay behind as leader of a new fragmented Syria initiating democratic reforms. what if the deal included everyone saving face and getting points. What does an ophthalmologist really want for his families future? Its not as if his future looked good even if he won. Where would he run later: Russia, china? I think he would prefer London. The one thing the GCC have is money.

11. @ bernard ross:

    Syria: The Fabricated Evidence

    The chemical substances that were used against the civilians in Guta on August 21 were in fact produced in the Soviet Union. But they were shipped to Syria from Libya on by a security agency called BRITAMDefense. This operation was sponsored by the Syria’s archenemies – Qatar and Saudi Arabia. This was the reason why the British media on September 17 was the first to come across the “breaking news” that the chemical weapons that were used in Syria were of the Russian origin. Those news were not hard to come across since it was the British security firm that hired the Ukrainian mercenaries to set the Syrian government up, the operation was approved by the White House. There’s a lot of detailed analysis pieces published in New Eastern Outlook that explains who was behind the attack in Guta. Those who missed out on these can find out to themselves all the facts that the attack was an operation orchestrated by the White House and sponsored by the Wahabiite monarchies.

    Anything beyond the facts is irrelevant. The Great Britain masterminds can be pushing blame for as long as they want, they’ve lost all credibility anyway when they tried to ship U.K. produced chemical weapons to Syria across the Turkey border and got their agents caught.

    This January the web site of UK-based Britam Defense was hacked by the unknown group of (supposedly) Iranian origin. Later on a number of files extracted from the stolen dump were uploaded to a number of servers. One of the stolen emails reads as follows:

    
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12. It’s Perfectly Legal for Muslim Men to Rape Their 8 Year Old “Brides” Until They Die
    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/its-perfectly-legal-for-muslim-men-to-rape-their-8-year-old-brides-until-they-die_092013#sthash.I26jJvoA.dpuf
    An FYI moment

13. I believe that Obama is assuaging the GCC anger at the failure to bomb Syria. Instead he is arming the islamists backed by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Ted Belman

    GCC have been arming the jihadis for 2 years, Obama has been helping but I expect the GCC pay. This current arming is a fig leaf to maintain the BS story that some laggards still believe: that obama was wondering whether to arm the FSA(LOL). They dont need Obama overtly now for arms. CIA helped them buy large quantity in Croatia. They probably want some bombing of assads facilities for support. The big question now is what will the GCC do now; will they continue to import more jihdis. They have escalated a lot in Iraq. The same question with Israel now that the cat has been let out of the bag. I only see Israel joining the fray overtly if against hezbullah and based on a provocation(which anyone on any side can easily arrange). There has been talk of an east west conference on Syria to make an agreement. There has also bee a lot of talk about a fragmented Syria a la Iraq. One question is what is the goal, perhaps it is only a weakening or fragmentation. The weakening has transpired and there is a defacto fragmentation or flux. My own view is that one cannot rely on the apparent drama. Even where there is agreement in the ME it always appears to be accompanied by the opposite rhetoric because no one can be seen to be doing what they are doing.

14. Don’t understand why the GCC doesn’t arm the terrorists? They certainly do not lack either money or munitions?

    They have well equipped air-forces so why don’t they carry their own water?

    It’s not like Syria isn’t aware of their participation.