WHY MUST BENNETT APOLOGIZE? Because he opposed Netanyahu’s ill-advised proposal? I support Bennett.
[Video of Bennett’s terrific speech in Hebrew. I am waiting for it in English.]
By Ari Yashar,INN
Naftali Bennett and Binyamin NetanyahuA new exchange of fire Wednesday highlighted the growing rift between Jewish Home Chairman, Economics Minister Naftali Bennett, and Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu.
Bennett’s criticism of Netanyahu’s proposal on Sunday to leave Jews in Judea and Samaria under Palestinian Authority (PA) rule reportedly has Netanyahu livid.
In response, sources in Netanyahu’s office said “no one will teach Netanyahu what the love of the land of Israel is,” and further called Bennett’s conduct “impudent.” They say his behavior and “irresponsible style won’t pass in silence. This behavior of Bennett’s harms the interests of the settlements.”
The sources threatened that “if (Bennett) won’t apologize,” he risks the dissolution of the current coalition government. “Netanyahu has enough alternatives. A government without Bennett will continue to concern itself with the security of Israeli citizens just like” the former government.
Knesset Council Chairman MK Tzachi Hanegbi (Likud Beytenu) joined the barrage against Bennett, suggesting that if “Bennett is unable to lie to himself, and can’t give the prime minister backing, he should retire from his position.”
Hanegbi, whose comments came Wednesday morning on Voice of Israel public radio, warned Bennett that Netanyahu’s “patience will wear out if that behavior continues.” In the past Hanegbi left Likud to join the leftist Kadima party, onlyto return again.
Bennett earlier in the week opposed the proposal from Netanyahu’s office that Jews live under the PA, calling it “a very grave matter,” and saying that “it reflects a panicked loss of values. 2,000 years of longing for the Land of Israel did not transpire so that we could live under Abbas’s rule.”
On Tuesday, Bennett reiterated in a speech at the Institute for National Security Studies (INSS) that “leaving Jews under foreign leadership is a 180-degree turn for Zionism. What happened to us? What are the implications of raising an idea like this?”
“Why should Jews in Tel Aviv live under Jewish sovereignty, while in Hevron and Eli they are not able to live under Jewish sovereignty?” added Bennett.’
Netanyahu is reportedly furious at Bennett for upsetting his “plan” to expose PA intransigence through the proposal, and indeed PA Chief Negotiator Saeb Erekat reiterated Sunday “no settler will be allowed to stay in the Palestinian state, not even a single one.”
Meretz chairwoman MK Zehava Galon also blasted Bennett for opposing Arab rule over Judea and Samaria Jews. Galon accused Netanyahu of being a“coward” for not getting rid of Bennett.
“Bennett does not deserve to be a government minister and Netanyahu should get rid of him,” ranted Galon, adding that after he gets rid of Bennett, Netanyahu should “do us a favor and resign himself” since he “is not taking the peace talks with the PA seriously.”
@ Eric R.:
An ‘Islamo’ who favors homo ‘marriage’ & elective abortion?
Marxism does seem to be his religion — though his economics are apparently fascist.
Not so sure it’s he who is the wannabe dictator.
— He may be a beard for Soros, or somebody else like that who calls his BlackBerry at 3 am in the morning from time-to-time, to whisper sweet nothings in his ear.
Also with the help of the Repub leadership, which clearly preferred losing the election to losing their positions of prominence in the Party to its conservative base.
— So they by supported the ONE candidate [Romney] who couldn’t use the most powerful tool in the GOP arsenal that year (Obamacare); which decision ensured that 4 million demoralized GOP voters stayed home on Election Day.
@ Shy Guy:
Wasn’t me who said that. It was Felix. Should have been included in quotations box.
https://www.israpundit.org/archives/63593581/comment-page-1#comment-63356000120541
Felix Quigley Said:
I have learned alot from Yamit82 and hopefully he will be here to teach me more. You Sir, however keep beating the same drum.
@ yamit82:
Esplain me Yanit82, wasn’t Israel suppose to be a homeland for the Jewish people? Then why is the Israeli govt turning over the Jewish settlers to the Palestininan authorities? Doesn’t that place them in the same jepordy that Jews have always faced?
Shy Guy Said:
You’re moving to Colorado??????????/
yamit82 Said:
Another useless barb. He is as powerful or powerless as everyone else in the Knesset who does not tow Netanyahu’s line. So what’s your point?
And Feiglin is nobody’s fig leaf! He’s a stick in Netanyahu’s eye – and in quite a few others, too.
Nothing can change now. Elections are needed to make a change and only if the Israeli public uses their votes to actually change things instead of ping-ponging between the same pols or pol types. Nothing new will come to be without the people voting for it.
Comment to Felix blocked by Spam Filter
Pls retrieve.
Felix Quigley Said:
History has shown McCarthy was not far off the mark. Communists had infiltrated almost every facet of American government and society.
True or false? Marx and Engels put it starkly in The Communist Manifesto, “in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.” Marxists see the progress of society toward socialism as inevitable. But there’s nothing inevitable or predetermined about the outcome of the conflict between the new possibilities for society and the old order that blocks them. That outcome depends on the class struggle.
Marx’s entire theory of working-class revolution is built around the centrality of struggle–and in all the forms that struggle takes, from the class struggle at the base of historical development to the countless ways that it is expressed in conflicts, protests and rebellions around every kind of issue.
Struggle is at the heart of Marx and Engels’ theory of working-class revolution, which is why they ended the Communist Manifesto with this call to action:
Felix Quigley Said:
History has shown McCarthy was not far off the mark. Communists had infiltrated almost every facet of American government and society.
True or false? Marx and Engels put it starkly in The Communist Manifesto, “in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.” Marxists see the progress of society toward socialism as inevitable. But there’s nothing inevitable or predetermined about the outcome of the conflict between the new possibilities for society and the old order that blocks them. That outcome depends on the class struggle.
Marx’s entire theory of working-class revolution is built around the centrality of struggle–and in all the forms that struggle takes, from the class struggle at the base of historical development to the countless ways that it is expressed in conflicts, protests and rebellions around every kind of issue.
Struggle is at the heart of Marx and Engels’ theory of working-class revolution, which is why they ended the Communist Manifesto with this call to action:
@ Felix Quigley:
Israeli politics are at a dead end, a complete dead end. Bennett is ALSO a big danger. Feiglin is a kind of fig leaf inthat he is powerless and will remain so
First part is plausible but the second is only in the mind of a brain-dead commie.
The idea that people seek and want democracy is a fallacy. People want security and basic necissities and aslittle intrusion into their personal choices as possible from the State. They do not want responsibility of decision making on their shoulders and they generally shun the requirement of choice.
“The Masses Are Asses”!!! or “der oylem iz a goylem” The golem, one recalls, is that brutish being incapable of independent thought, and keyed to the will of its master. Alas, the more things change, the less anything in the Jewish world does. The OYLEM, the Jew, remains a GOYLEM…
Israel for all intents and purpose is a quasi dictatorship already and becoming more of one every year. Israel may become a full commie dictatorship (which is doubtful or one fashioned on Mussolini.
Nothing is barred as far as I can see on Israpundit. I and you are proof.
Good question I have been asking Narvey for almost 7 years what his real position is with no success. Not sure Narvey has a real position he likes to argue from every position. He is after-all a lawyer. 😉
Commies have adopted the dictum “ordo ab chao” (out of chaos, comes order) through revolution. With Obama no need for a proletariat class revolution he is doing it from the top.
Felix Quigley Said:
Have you been taking stupid pill since 2008 or does your prescription go way back to childhood?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0PUUpa5X4E
Lots more examples at YouTube
Wake up and smell the
coffeeweedvodka!All right then, stupid stupid people. Just show me how Obama has anything to do with Marxism. Your mouths are big but show some learning here or else shut up.
Yamit
What is “Commies”? You sound like McCarthy. Remember the Nazis used that term.
All right then big mouth provide the quotes and sources for the above claim. You are a real stupido Yamit and you confuse Anarchism with Marxism in fact two opposites.
You waste time and people’s time because you are so stupid and make unlearned comments
yamit82 Said:
And how has that worked!!!!!!!!! I hear talk of armed revolt,but from the riht!!!
@ Shy Guy:
Commies have adopted the dictum “ordo ab chao” (out of chaos, comes order) through revolution. With Obama no need for a proletariat class revolution he is doing it from the top.
Felix Quigley Said:
Oh yes he is and poo on you!
People in this discussion have hidden the real danger. Ask how the 2005 evacuation was carried out
1. confusion among the patriotic people including here, wrongly called here the right
2. The Media
3. The Army and specially created by Sharon Stalinist type pólice
4. US and EU pressure
Many other factors and things happening but that was the basics
All those exist today. There is the bad experience of Gaza aftermath but that is hardly decisive
Ted says
“Bennett rightly took issue with the idea that Bibi would allow Israelis to live in Palestine rather than be evacuated. He did not say he was against uprooting any settlements. Basically he said to Bibi, don’t count on leaving settlers behind. I think he is right.”
The first two sentences are correct. The latter two are a puzzle. What is Ted meaning in the latter two?
Israeli politics are at a dead end, a complete dead end. Bennett is ALSO a big danger. Feiglin is a kind of fig leaf inthat he is powerless and will remain so
Anything is possible for Bibi and Kerry. This includes the arrest of Bennett.
Things will change and people are not prepared for state intervention and dictatorship in Israel.
But these views are barred from Israpundit….
Finally what is Bill Narvey’s real position?
Listen and f… you Obama is no Marxist
@ yamit82:
The most Netanyahu can offer the Arabs is autonomy plus – which is basically a state with limited sovereignty. Palestinian Arabs are not going to make life easier for Netanyahu. They won’t make peace on his terms.
But without peace on his terms – its going to be impossible for him to get a peace deal past the Likud. And Netanyahu has to remember there many pretenders to his throne on the Left far more credible than him.
If he really thought the Arabs would make him an offer he couldn’t refuse, he might try to break up his own party to pursue it. But he also knows the prospects of that ever coming to fruition are exactly zero.
The Arabs hate his guts as much and even more than his enemies in Israel. They do not want to make him the man who finally brought the Arab-Israel conflict to an end. That is already going into pure fantasyland.
yamit82 Said:
Your democracy produces government after government that won’t stand up to leftist Jew-haters.
So clearly, neither your democracy nor mine is working very well.
Ted Belman Said:
Ok — then Bibi does what? Eat crow?
Eric R. Said:
Bennett won’t apologize and won’t quit the coalition.
Ted #6 – I expect where a Minister appointed from a minority party that joined in coalition with the party that got the most votes would resign if they went rogue not only on the president or prime minister, but rogue to his own party.
That said, the critical point I made that you did not comment on was why I believe Bennett should resign.
@ yamit82:
OK, let’s say Bibi calls Bennett’s bluff, only Bennett is not bluffing and resigns. What happens?
I pose the same questions to you that I did to Ted.
Can Bennett pull off the upset and become PM?
yamit82 Said:
“If everyone pulled in the same direction,the World would tip over” A Yddish saying
A quiet moment: A doe and her twin yearlings are grazing and resting in the house yard.
Eric R. Said:
They call that democracy. Since America is almost divided equally between their version of left and right any winner will automatically have almost half the country against him no matter what.
In Israel the left can almost count on the Arabs 10 mandates to side with it and support from the knesset. The religious parties will side with who ever offers them the most money and or ministries. All Israeli so called right wing parties are far from being homogeneous there a lot of political centrists even leftists alinged to parties like the Likud but are far from being ideological except they have always been identified with the party on social issues. Even the so called settlers only about 50,000 of the half million designated as settlers are ideological right wingers. Most Settlers will leave peacfully on their own if offered compensation and or alternatives. The rest will not fight authority of the police and the IDF and will be forced out easily.
Matter of Fact it’s obvious that BB wants them to stay as they will beak Israel economically and set her back at least 20 years as did the Sinai withdrawal in 79-82. Israel will never cover the $60-$100 billion dollar cost.
The State of Judea
The most ideological Jews living in Y&S should accept living under PA but not as Israeli citizens. They should renounce their Israeli citizenship’s and become stateless requiring the UN to be responsible for them. At the same time they should be equipped with all that is necessary for them to defend themselves against Arab attacks and when attacked hit the Arabs with everything they got and even expand their territory and population, even declaring large settlement blocks autonomous enclaves, a precursor for the State of Judah. A real Jewish State unlike Israel. Those who support a real Jewish state will support them as opposed to Israel. Many Jews will join them and if they were seriously in danger by the Arabs I expect Israel would not sit idly by. There are already several contingency plans well developed to be put in operation when it becomes clear Israel is giving up any claims to Y&S and the settlements.
While these Jews won’t for religious reasons shoot or kill another Jew in the IDF or the Police they have no such restrictions or religious barriers to killing Arab enemies.
Shooting Down of Egyptian Chopper Corroborates Bennett’s Warning
Video shows terrorist firing missile at the helicopter. This is what Israeli airliners may face if Judea and Samaria fall into enemy hands.
Peres: ‘Live Under the PA, What Are You Afraid Of?’
Peres responds to Bennett-Netanyahu crisis on having Jews live under PA, asks ‘what’s this fear, they’ll kill Jews, today?’
Ted Belman Said:
OK, Ted. Let’s play this out. Bennett refuses to apologize and then withdraws his party from the coalition. Then what?
Does Bibi rule as a minority government? Or does he go to the country and risk a Likud-Left coalition – and also run the risk that Bennett takes Lieberman with him and beats him with a Habeyit Yehudi-Beitenu-Shas-other religious party coalition?
Help me out here. You are from Canada and are used to Parliamentary politics. I’m just a dumb American stuck with an Islamo-Marxist wannabe dictator as President, voted in by minority and “low-information” voters, with the help of apparatchiks pretending to be journalists and artists.
Bill Narvey Said:
Likud MK Backs Bennett Over ‘Jews in Palestine’ Storm
MK Hotovely promises Likud rebellion over Netanyahu’s ‘political acrobatics’ in interview with Arutz Sheva.
@ ArnoldHarris:
Agreed!
Is just another shabby diplomatic trick is what this nonsense is all about? Netanyahu putting up a proposal to put some or all the Jews in Shomron and Yehuda under sovereignty of el Fatah, in expectations that no Arab leader would agree to any Jews resident in their territory whatsoever?
It is precisely this kind of dishonest scam, among other traits, that the world of the goyim use to justify regrading Jewish leaderships anywhere as despicable. Any Arab leader advocating such a rotten dwindle would be killed by his own people, who would then celebrate his death. And to be perfectly candid with all of you, that precisely is a nation character trait that I strongly wish the Jewish nation to adopt.
I regard this Netanyahu as little more than a liar and a scoundrel. If, in addition to those traits, sells out the territorial rights of the Jewish nation, for a trickster’s peace that would come to nothing in any case, then I consider his a traitor as well, who merits the punishment of traitors everywhere and throughout history.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
@ yamit82:
ABSOLUTELY!!!!
“It Feels Like We’re Back to the Disengagement Days” Arutz7 INN
Attorney Itamar Ben-Gvir threw his hat into the ring in expressing suspicions that the new state prosecutor (state attorney) Shai Nitzan is prejudiced against residents of Judea and Samaria and their allies. Ben-Gvir told Arutz Sheva news “what we warned would happen is now happening today. There is a feeling we’re back to the days of [the Disengagement from] Gush Katif.”
Ben-Gvir complained that “resources and energies are directed” toward minor issues such as “three girls caught with stickers in the Old City.”
Critics say Nitzan played an active role in the Prosecution’s decision to carry out mass arrests of demonstrators against the government’s removal of Jews from Gaza and northern Samaria in the 2005 Disengagement, and to close investigations against police officers who used violence against the demonstrators.
Only the Likud can force new elections. BB is no Sharon and we have the experience of Gaza and lebanon to temper any blind messianic attachment to peace agreements.
On the other side a divided right wing block ensures the left wins in any new elections. I think BB is counting on that and always planned for the day. He is following Sharon’s play book to a tee.
Only the possibility that any BB breakaway party will not give him a majority allowing him and his rump party from forming a new government with BB as PM will give him reason to pause. The ministers that didn’t follow Sharon won’t follow BB either. In the last elections the Likud ran without a stated platform on settlements and the Peace process other than they were open to negotiations.
BB destroyed the Likud in 2000 and he is doing it again. He plays the back channel game hidden from all public purview and pushes out any potential competitor by ignoring them and sidelining them from any important decision making forum. Plays off one group against another and is always threatening to fire and replace them from the opposition.
Pundits are always rating the Obama presidency and the congress for lack of accomplishments. 6 years of BB and no apparent accomplishments. He is the biggest impediment for a real right led government.
He must be dumped one way or another. He is not only unsuited to be PM he is incompetent and outright dangerous for every Israeli. Peres should join his friend Sharon yesterday.
Bill Narvey Said:
Is that true in a minority government when the Minister is from a different party?
Please release my #3
In democracies, when a government Minister publically opposes some important government position or policy, that Minister traditionally resigns.
A critical statement in this report is:
Assuming this is true, Bennett being a Minister in Netanyahu’s government had to know what Netanyahu was up to with his public statement that some Israelis living beyond the green line would live under Palestinian governance if a TSS peace agreement could be reached.
As a calculated public relations ploy to draw Palestinians to publically reveal their intransigence and by express or implied words reveal their hatred of Jews for the benefit of Obama/Kerry and the international community, it seems it was a great ploy as Netanyahu intended, given Erekat played right into Netanyahu’s hands.
Bennett however, by his attacking Netanyahu as he did, made his attack and the tension between them the issue for the media, thus distracting attention from Netanyahu’s ploy that given Erekat’s public statement would have otherwise been a public relations coup for Israel.
This incident is now added to an almost mountainous pile of incidents that screams out for systemically reforming the Israeli political system and rid it of its inherent dysfunctionality. That dysfunction is that the current system breeds coalition governments, wherein some coalition members feel free to publically undermine their government and leader for their own political gain.
If this report is correct, personal political gain is clearly stamped on Bennett’s motives for publically attacking Netanyahu at the expense not just of Netanyahu, but Israel for his attack has lost Israel the full impact of what otherwise would have been an important public relations coup.
Bennett should in such instance resign.
NormanF Said:
Is that what Bennett is trying to accomplish here? If he brings down the government, does he think he can combine disaffected Likudniks, his own party, religious parties, and maybe Lieberman’s party into a ruling coalition?
Bennett, IIRC, was a successful software entrepeneur. Such people have to know how to read and influence people. Does he think that this is his time?
Naftali Bennett should be prepared to go to new elections.
If this is the hill to die on, its a good one.
If you’re in the right, you don’t need to apologize. If Netanyahu wants a government of the Left, now is the time to expose his true colors.
There is no shame in leaving office with one’s head held high.