Watch: PM says Trump a friend of the Jewish people, expresses hope he will nix Iran deal – and pave the way for a Palestinian state.
Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu expressed optimism about the incoming Trump administration and its ability to work with Israel on pressing matters in the Middle East, telling 60 Minutes he expected a more productive relationship with the President-elect than with his predecessor.
During the sit-down interview with Lesley Stahl, Netanyahu praised Donald Trump, saying his support for the Jewish state “is clear”, and referencing Trump’s recent statements regarding his “warm feelings” towards Israel.
“I know Donald Trump. I know him very well. And I think his attitude, his support for Israel is clear. He feels very warmly about the Jewish state, about the Jewish people and about Jewish people. There’s no question about that.”
In contrast, Netanyahu mentioned the “differences of opinion” between himself and outgoing President Barack Obama, citing the Iranian nuke deal.
President Trump, he suggested, would be far more inclined to dismantle the Iran nuclear agreement – something Trump himself claimed on the campaign trail.
But aside from signaling some enthusiasm in discussing the Iran issue with the President-elect, the Prime Minister said he also hopes the warmer ties with the White House could enable progress on the diplomatic front – and even a final status agreement including the establishment of a Palestinian state.
“I’m willing to negotiate with [the Palestinian Authority] at any moment,” said Netanyahu. “I haven’t reversed my position. I’ve said, ‘Look, we will solve this because we want two nation states at peace and with the proper security arrangements.’ Two states for two peoples…. that’s where I’m focused.”
“I’d like to have President Trump, when he gets into the White House, help me work on that. I’d like to see if the Arab states can help me achieve that. It’s a new reality. A new possibility.”
@ yamit82:
Of course the pompous ass is dumb like a brick, yet I always had a soft spot specially reserved for AB, saw it every morning as I flushed. He was and is that relevant to me.
We could have had Jewish Law applied for the whole of Eretz Israel if the Peresite-kibutznik caterva would not have blocked that. AB was always ready to mumble idiocies to help the unJews along. Netanyahu is the boy that volunteered to work for them.
Right now el fantastico is jumping all over to prevent Mr. Trump to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem.
That would mean that the trash will have to move all Israeli Government offices to Jerusalem as well.
Oh boy!
@ Economist:
Clearly, deterrence will only come as an accidental byproduct of preparations to take them out. We saw that during the Iraq and Afghanistan war, Iran suspended it’s nukes and Quadafy came over to our side; he gave up his WMDs and stopped sponsoring terror, and began helping to identify and catch terrorists. Obama/Clinton only overthrew allies with enemies waiting in the wings. This is substantive if not pro forma treason. But, the point is that if we aim for compromise we will be forced to retreat. If we aim for supremacy, we may or may not get it, but we will make gains. You always get less than you aim for. So, you should shoot for the moon. Our goal should be total war on every level. And it is no danger for us and our allies to have nukes. It is a danger for our enemies to be allowed to have even slingshots. Nukes don’t kill people, Genocidal maniacs kill people. You dont’ have well-intentioned people on both sides or all sides now, as liberal anti-cold-war propaganda would have it, back when they were defending Russia , not using her as a scapegoat and red herring (no pun intendedl)
Though they made some great movies back then:
The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming Movie Trailer (Alan Arkin, Carl Reiner, Theodore Bikel, Jonathan Winters 1966)
https://youtu.be/IEWWRbn4zG0
WarGames trailer (Matthew Broderick, Dabney Coleman (1983)
https://youtu.be/tAcEzhQ7oqA
Zorn: The most amusing thing about the article is: “Want to build your own cloaking device? Plans are available from the University of Rochester.”
@ yamit82:
“Scientists Have Invented a Real-Life Cloaking Device — And It Could Cost Less than a New Computer
Zach Noble September 27, 2014 8:05 am”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/09/27/scientists-have-invented-a-real-life-cloaking-device-and-it-could-cost-less-than-a-new-computer/
@ Economist:
I’m not sure what, if anything, to make of this. Is there an escalated danger of espionage or sabotage?
Report: Iran owns 5% of shares of the German firm building subs for Israel
December 2, 2016 7:49am
http://archive.jta.org/2016/12/02/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/report-iran-owns-5-of-shares-of-the-german-firm-building-subs-for-israel
and
Abu Dhabi-based company to build Israel’s new fleet
An Abu Dhabi-based company that is partly owned by Lebanese businessman, Iskandar Safa, will be building four new warships for Israel.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/221318
@ Sebastien Zorn:
Yes, you’re right. Decapitation of Iranian leadership seems the only workable solution. I recall a paper published many years ago called “If deterrence fails”. See also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deterrence_theory for a useful partial discussion.
yamit82 says:
December 13, 2016 at 12:57 am
@ Economist:
“Since when do economists design naval fleets? Me thinks you are much into braggadosio without the benefit of complete truth?”
Since the 1980’s when I did it for the US Navy under defense contract to my then employer, Litton Industries, for the FDL, LHA, and DD-963 fleets. You forget that in its heyday DOD was run by Engineering Economist wonks including Secretary McNamara and my colleague Alain Enthoven. Prior to that I held a research contract from the Office of Naval Research on the Polaris nuclear missile submarine fleet, which I had the pleasure of boarding in Holy Loch, Scotland.
@ Economist:
Might be? That’s exactly what Khamenei said, using just those words. It’s on MEMRI somewhere.
We have to take these sobs out the way.we.did Saddam or some other way. Excuse me, I just reread what you wrote. you’re so civilized. He didn’t say evacuated.
Re Reliance on Israel’s deterrents: Nukes and subs haven’t discouraged terrorists or nearby insurgents driven by religious fanaticism. Even Iran, a very large country run by religious fanatics,, might be willing or even eager to pay a few evacuated cities for the destruction of Israel. Good thing we have Hashem on our side.
pilots who weighed less than 136 pounds — in other words, in good shape unless super tall, risked being killed by the eject system? Ha Ha. Sounds like a Monty Python sketch. Are these people for real?
Google Procrustean Bed
That’s what dems call supporting Israel. Jobs programs for.their constituents that tie.Israel’s hands. Haven’t they heard? Pork is treif!
SOURCE:Naharnet(Lebanon) 10 Dec.’16:Israel Readies for ‘Super-Tech’
Stealth Fighters ,Keeps Eye on Hizbullah:,by Agence France Presse
SUBJECT: Info on Israel airplane purchases
This is the problem and must be addressed and soon..We cannot continue to be held hostage to America. Maybe Trump will cut us off as a cost cutting measure??? I hope so and there are options there are always options.
Ha ha. But seriously, I think they are more worried about the Irish, the French, the Buddhists, the klingons, and the Hobbits!
@ Sebastien Zorn:
Argentina might invade Falklands again
This dumb asshole waited 20 years to admit the truth…. sure he couched his advocacy for annexation based on his leftist ideology of occupation bad for the Jews but annexation is annexation no matter the reasoning…
@ yamit82:
China probably wants to knock the Facebook satellite down again.
@ yamit82:
Who’s England afraid of? The EU? They should be worrying about the Jihadist commandos they’ve already invited in.
GAME CHANGER!!!
China prepares for anti-satellite missile test
[As defense-aerospace.com notes – The fact that Chinese authorities decided
to re-post the above article on their own military website can be considered
as unofficial confirmation.]
China prepares for anti-satellite missile test
Source:The Washington Free Beacon
Editor:Yao Jianing Time:2016-12-12
http://english.chinamil.com.cn/view/2016-12/12/content_7402128.htm
Defence experts warn of ‘disaster’ for Britain after Donald Trump suggests undoing ‘out of control’ F-35 fighter jet project
Defence experts warn of ‘disaster’ for Britain after Donald Trump suggests
undoing ‘out of control’ F-35 fighter jet project
By Ruth Sherlock, Washington; Ben Farmer, Defence Correspondent and Alan
Tovey, Industry Editor The Telegraph 12 December 2016 6:33pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/12/donald-trump-pledges-cut-military-budget-criticising-control
Google Trump F35
Egypt to receive a second German submarine in June
Tue, 13/12/2016 – 10:36 Al-Masry Al-Youm
http://www.egyptindependent.com//news/egypt-receive-second-german-submarine-june
SHmuel HaLevi 2 Said:
Haaaaaaaaaa
@ Economist:
Economist Said:
I will take his opinions and judgement on these issues over yours. In any event our ultimate weapon and deterrent will be our growing tactical nuke armed Dolphin subs expensive but lots of bang for the buck and very stealthy.
@ Economist:
Not a tidbit of secret technology has been divulged here.
Open knowledge facts, yes. We leave betraying to experts such as Hussein that delivered a brand new jet drone to Iran, China and Russia, intact.
Now the good nus…
Was considering hiring you for one of my lesser programs. You know what for?
To enjoy firing yer ass a couple of weeks later.
Bottom line to your insinuendo. The F-35 is old cheese, still in development after over a decade and a trillion dollar wasted along the way. capishtah? Its coatings have been discussed at length here as well. We should have stopped that ghastly thing even before prototype.
At the very least 15 years old trash has been dumped into a tortoise with what it looks like wings.
On second thought. You people could possibly use that thing in the Navy. As a boat anchor…
@ Economist:
Hmmm are we speaking of the same product I posted or some other product developed by other sources???? Must always compare oranges to oranges right, professor? I have searched for references to the Israeli product since 2010 and have come up blank so it might have been rendered classified so who knows today what they have developed since that first blurb back then…??? Israel has successfully evaded Russian and Arab radars in many attacks and were apparently not detected or shot at so without the F-35 it seems we have mastered some forms of stealth whether such coating is now used or through electronic jamming or some combination I can’t say but we unlike America tend to be highly innovative at a fraction of the cost…. We learned a lot from the Japanese in building better mousetraps based on existing technologies and platforms.
@ Sebastien Zorn:
Google Romulin Cloaking Devices
Dunno about you, but I would not give much credibility for the guy who designs speedometers and GPS electronics to pronounce on national military vehicle acquisition policy. Give me the engineering Economist policy wonk (Bob McNamara, SecDef and Alain Enthoven (whom I once worked with) every time.@ yamit82:
Stealth paint. The black nanotube paint wears very easily and must be given a protective coat. Further, the “black hole” optical signature silhouette is easily distinguishable against a light background.@ Sebastien Zorn:
In your assertions about the inferiority of the F35I you are aware of all the classified systems to be on board, many of which must need to come as a surprise to Israel’s adversaries? @ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
@ yamit82:
“NEW STEALTH NANO-PAINT TURNS ANY AIRCRAFT INTO A RADAR-EVADING STEALTH PLANE
By Clay Dillow July 14, 2010 Popular Science Magazine
I googled: stealth paint
It’s made by an Israeli company, ‘natch. Who knows. They can probably fix whatever’s wrong. Problems in past have arisen when U.S. wouldn’t allow Israeli techs to get inside machinery and tinker.*
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-07/stealth-paint-turns-any-aircraft-radar-evading-stealth-plane
I understand the next and latest new development underway is a stealth paint that enables students to sneak into class late undetected. For which, another company is working on the equivalent of radar detectors and still another, radar detector detectors for academic stealth paint.
https://www.google.com/search?q=spy+v.+spy&safe=active&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=1014&site=webhp&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZitv50PLQAhWM7RQKHQgkC4oQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=2mFFo2PUiZ10iM%3A
Googling that also brought up a lot of irrelevant stuff. But not necessarily useless. Here’s another Hasbara site:
http://strongandresolute.blogspot.com/p/how-israel-saves-world.html
@ yamit82:
I was in charge, while working for Sperry Defense Systems, Phoenix, AZ, USA, of the initial co production Program offered Elbit by Sperry and General Dynamics for several F-16 LRU’s, including the MFD, SMC as well as the IEFCC, Israeli Enhanced Fire Control Computer. With MTLAM, a specialized firm then nearby, we controlled the co production of F-16 brake parts.
With two terrific pros from Sperry we helped Elbit to start the HUD Program now well into 5G aircraft production. I will not visit what we know about many specifics on those Programs.
Bottom line. The F-16 remains part of my life since the late 1970’s and hold close friendship with giants of technology hailing from General Dynamics, Rome USAFB, etc.
Today’s F-16’s and F-18’s are vastly superior to the winged thing called F-35.
That is why the US Purchasing Agencies are seriously considering returning to buying those two marvels.
Guess at which USAFB the F-18’s we at times supported had a home? 🙂
Once we concluded the F-16 co pro contract I was called back home to be part of the Senior Staff in control of several F-15E LRU’s design and production. That is another dream aircraft. The MPDP LRU was later opted into several of the stealth aircraft that do work.
@ Bear Klein:
https://www.sofmag.com/f-35-vs-f-16/
Compare Stats for F-35 and F-16 then add that the plane unproven so far, is not better than F-16 when you eliminate stealth qualities and advantages which is now a fact in the New Russian S-400. Israel should have opted for the Boeing updated F-15 with semi stealth attributes. IAI could have co-produced the plane with little to no restrictions.
@ Economist:
There ya are… And fortunately you are never gonna be one of the deciders. In turn the upcoming deciders decided to have Lockheed shed 2 billion in one day with reference to the F-35 Program or whatever that abortion is.
The good nus is that Israeli pilots managed to bring that thing to take of and even land in one piece, piece of what? That is already also decided. 🙂
Economist Said:
In every category The F-16 outperforms the F-35 with the exception of stealth and for a fraction of the cost Less than $20 million per aircraft including training and ground support.
F-35’s only real advantage is that it is supposed to be stealthy but as I have explained and shown in previous comments the Russians have updated their radar capabilities in the S-400 to reduce significantly or totally any stealth advantage to the F-35 making the plane obsolete and less effective than the F-16’s latest models. Now after investing so far over a trillion dollars in a failed concept nobody involved is going to buck the party line that they have made terrible and vry costly mistakes and refuse to admit their error so they will continue to compound them. I do not want Israel to buy into the American Bullshit and mistakes….. We can do much better for a lot less. Major problem is that the F-35 was conceived over ten years ago and by the time the plane as yet unproven, was produced the enemy meaning the Russians and maybe other nations have improved missile and radar technologies so for a fraction of the cost can now counter and defeat all of the major G 5 advantages touted by developers and current advocates…. Most know the truth and the rest will sooner than later. Trump may already understand the problem and may reverse course…. That’s my hope 😛 Truth is that superior avionics and weapons systems more important than air frame platforms.
Elbit (Israel) makes the Helmets for the F-35 now Israel knows how to defeat the F-35
honeybee Said:
Really ? What do you call 1.5 million Ishmaelites??? Chopped liver???
SHmuel HaLevi 2 Said:
Fortunately the deciders use substance, not hope.
Some folk have shown us that they have been well trained to cut and glue somebody else’s predigested blabber.
Some others… have been at Luke, more than once and heard statements in classic militareeze to CTA’s as well, albeit on another aircraft that actually flew into combat and is still front line and that will be likely selected to set aside extended purchases of the F-35.
Over a trillion bucks dumped into the that black hole called F-35 and it is still not completely operational over 20 years later.
I doubt it will ever be worthy as a fleet aircraft.
A V-22 and F-111 combined and painted on cubic schemes.
yamit82 Said:
You live in a goyless nation, Silly.
@ honeybee:
Stupid or smart??? that POS is not safe to fly !!! these guys are not test pilots 🙂
No I haven’t they hire dumb goys to do that Haaaaaa
yamit82 Said:
So Sugar Pie, are the Israelis to stupid to learn how to fly the plane???? Everyone [the Goy] are helpless when come to mechanical . I mean have you ever seen a Jew try to hammer a nail !!!!
@ yamit82:
I carefully observed today’s actual flight of the two F-35’s manned by the Israeli Air Force wing commanders. It was a basic take of, low altitude loitering, very modest directional and altitude changes and landing. No clouds in the Negev… No signs of the aircraft being armed.
Operational assignments may be more than a year away. After astronomical cost simulation training and OTJ training that is.
Sperry Marine and Avionics Defense Systems and General Dynamics built some of the test and training systems for the earlier models of the F-16. Those were basic compared to the 5th generation aircraft ones.
Still no pilots candidates gained access to aircraft controls for several months.
I hope for the best with the F-35. Hope based on very little substance so far.
SHmuel HaLevi 2 Said:
It’s up to the more militant youth who never have trusted BB to stand firm. Amona residents will probably deal it’s their homes.
@ Bear Klein:
i Israelis have never flown the plane either only simulators till now.
Israel ‘Ready’ to Operate F-35s Without Ever Actually Flying Them
By: Barbara Opall-Rome, December 8, 2016
http://www.defensenews.com/articles/israel-ready-to-operate-f-35s-without-ever-actually-flying?
@ yamit82:
Yes. I remember. Total blank since then. Wonder…
I mention in my CV that I worked with Sandia on a couple of projects. One was related to extremely high voltage arcs being used to cause metal migration. The other was micro encapsulation… I have the research papers copies.
That kind of work is seldom published.
What was interesting was the application… see above.
Lets get back to don Netanyahu’s latest palabras on the TTS. He cannot help it. It is just him. And our records show that Miss Stahl is always there to do the media thing as well. Siempre it is Hussein that pressures him to be a sneak. Now he is also giving Mr. Trump a line to also “pressure” him. I got the feeling that President Trump will not take the line.
If the Amona good people place any trust on that specimen, they’ll end up like the whole mess of others betrayed by the speechster.
It will be interesting to see how the Adir actually does as an Israeli combat plane.
The people who are actually hands on like the F-35. There are many critics who have never seen the plane who profess intimate knowledge. Just those claims by people who never flown the plane or worked on it, makes their claims suspicious as to motive.
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
I posted this news 6 years ago and since then narry a word on the company and product…..Interesting!!!!
Israel’s secret new weapon?
Israeli company uses nanotechnology to develop paint that makes planes disappear off radar
New Stealth Nano-Paint Turns Any Aircraft Into a Radar-Evading Stealth Plane
Seems to me a lot cheaper and saner than spending billions on planes for their stealth abilities than no longer exist.
@ yamit82:
What? You don’t say! Will they be lying to us and the US government? I am in shock, I tell you, shock.
The F-35 joins another sock full of refuse, the V-22 and also include criminal actions and cover ups?
We may recall that somebody in out vaunted military was interested on also buying the V-22. Apparently many disintegrated and there was none for sale. I was in charge of controlling the supplier of certain structural deformation detection sensors used on a mess full of helicopters types. We could not make them ready fast enough.
@ yamit82:
Holy cow! I was called to carpet if my programs reps. invested minutes over support time assignments.
50 to 1? Might as well keep that feller parked in the shade and out of the fog and rain rather than send it up.
Problem.
Even so, many of the aircraft’s special coatings will not last anyway. At one time we went over that, remember?
Say Yamit? Must we find a way to buy more of those precious things? Even if paid with US taxpayer cash the costs are obscene.
Now this is the plane I am waiting for. From another one of my favorite war movies:
Firefox (1982) – Must Think in Russian
https://youtu.be/ky-uzsw0kqw