Netanyahu: “an historic mistake”

Following is an excerpt from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s remarks at the start of the weekly Cabinet meeting today (Sunday, 24 November 2013):

    “What was achieved last night in Geneva is not an historic agreement; it is an historic mistake. Today the world has become a much more dangerous place because the most dangerous regime in the world has taken a significant step toward attaining the most dangerous weapon in the world. For the first time, the world’s leading powers have agreed to uranium enrichment in Iran while ignoring the UN Security Council decisions that they themselves led. Sanctions that required many years to put in place contain the best chance for a peaceful solution. These sanctions have been given up in exchange for cosmetic Iranian concessions that can be cancelled in weeks. This agreement and what it means endanger many countries including, of course, Israel. Israel is not bound by this agreement. The Iranian regime is committed to the destruction of Israel and Israel has the right and the obligation to defend itself, by itself, against any threat. As Prime Minister of Israel, I would like to make it clear: Israel will not allow Iran to develop a military nuclear capability.”
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  1. @ yamit82:

    “You seem to have mastered all the christian apologetic talking points down pat.”

    Since you fail to identify any talking points in this post of yours, it sounds like you just had nothing to say, so you dragged that silly red herring across the road as a diversion.

    Frankly, I have never had time for talking points, Jewish OR Christian.

    Both species presume the talker incapable of doing his own thinking.

    Of course, in the case of PresentCompany, they’ve clearly got a point.

  3. dweller Said:

    No; you twist my words to suit your purposes. I said Paul did not lie, but instead packaged himself.

    Then Obama didn’t lie either re: his promises on Obamacare.

    PAUL TAUGHT THAT WITH Yeshu IT MEANT THE END OF GOD’S LAW:

    ROM 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

    1TIM 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

    1TIM 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

    PAUL TAUGHT THAT ONE CAN NOT BE JUSTIFIED BY GOD’S LAW BUT ONLY BY HAVING FAITH IN Yeshu:

    GAL 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

    GAL 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

    GAL 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 🙂
    IT APPEARS THAT PAUL BELIEVED THAT GOD’S LAW WAS NO LONGER IMPORTANT AND THAT ALL ONE NEEDED TO DO, TO GET TO HEAVEN, WAS HAVE “FAITH” IN yeshu — IT IS CALLED “GRACE”. BUT G-D SAYS THROUGH THE PROPHET HOSEA:

    HOS 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

    Who is right Paul the liar and deceiver (dweller) or G-d???

  4. @ bernard ross:

    Tx is not wasting his time today on the computor. Thanks to female influence. He is oping bottles and cans,reaching for items on the selves and best of all,polishing silver!!!! Being usefull

  5. bernard ross Said:

    I agree todally! But we gotta have a few laughs

    What arguing with dweller? I can think of some activities that are co-ed and much more entertaining.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. dweller Said to shy guy:

    No twiterie on this end. Much less complicated than that actually: a simple matter of shepherding most effectively what limited time is available to me online.

    As for YOUR end:
    Putting somebody else’s writing to work for you in LIEU of your own (as distinct from offering it in addition to your own) cannot make whatever point you intend, because the writer isn’t here to be questioned on followup. If you won’t (or can’t) state a position — and an argument in support of it — in your own words, then you don’t have a case:

    — you’re merely cheering a team.

    A cited author may (or may not) have a case, but he isn’t online to field grounders in relation to it. So his only value to a discourse is as source material.

    If you’re going to post, then post what you think in your own words. They may not have the fluidity & grace of an established writer, but their practical value is actually much greater: because they come with the source that produced them.

    “Intellectual twit”? — no

    — but YOU are an intellectual sloth.

    blah, blah, blah a pathetic, anal retentive, narcissistic babble,a veritable verbal diahrea. It’s pathetic to watch a grown man masturbate in front of a mirror. The gift which keeps on giving.

  11. @ mar55:

    There was a Jewish influence among the German colonies in Texas. They [ the Germam Immigrants ] were and interesting people. Vehementaly anti-salvery they make deady enemies among the pro-salvery factions in Texas bring the Klan down on them. They were lasting friends of the Comanches and Mexicans who lived among them. Unfortunaly they have been tared by the 1st and 2nd world wars.

  15. dweller Said:

    He didn’t have to defeat him. All he had to do was tempt him, even as “Seytan” tempts men.

    That is, he put Seytan in a position where he could not resist the “bait” (a cosmic “sting” operation, as it were)

    — whereupon Seytan effectively defeated himself.

    ROTFLMAO

    Try science fiction it might fly with that group.

    I thought he said: “It’s Finished”?

  17. dweller Said:

    That is, he put Seytan in a position where he could not resist the “bait” (a cosmic “sting” operation, as it were)— whereupon Seytan effectively defeated himself.

    Wow, you people sure come up with fantastic stories. I think I prefer the story where he wasn’t the Jewish messiah,like those hundreds of other “messiahs”.

  19. dweller Said:

    He didn’t have to defeat him. All he had to do was tempt him, even as “Seytan” tempts men.

    does your seytan try to tempt jews to ignore G_D’s prophesies regarding what the Jewish Messiah will accomplish and how to recognize him and instead subscribe to a narrative that the messiah wont do what G_D prophesied but will instead come back and do those things later, almost as if he never showed up the first time? Whew, its a complicated story in a painfully constructed “package”. 😛
    dweller Said:

    a cosmic “sting” operation, as it were

    the story line of the next star trek?
    dweller Said:

    So it’s pointless for you to address your question to me.

    I think her question was rhetorical, you know, somewhat like “Peek a Boo, I see you.” 😛

  23. dweller Said:

    the purpose of the Christ’s first advent

    are you talking about the time he got it wrong? How many chances should he get? shouldn’t the other messiahs get the same number of chances?
    dweller Said:

    — What’s more, packaging is a perfectly legitimate marketing instrument,

    Indeed but you refer to deception as packaging, a difference that liars apparently fail to discern.
    dweller Said:

    Nonsense. Paul packaged himself, as he had a marketing job to accomplish. There’s no packaging about me, as I have no such mission.

    You have the same mission as him, and use the same “packaging”. It is only your “packaging” which declares you are not lying. How reliable is the “packaging” of a liar. “packaging” is the method that liars use to obfuscate and misnomer their lies.
    dweller Said:

    you’re in no position to hold forth as whether it was successful or not.

    If he didn’t accomplish the clear prophesies and the feeble excuse is “he’ll be back”, that’s a pretty good indicator that he and a few million others are not the JEWISH messiah. However, I understand that he might fulfill a christian set of criteria for their Messiah. It’s a matter of astute “packaging” and getting rid of a few million Jewish witnesses over the centuries. I think you should do a trial balloon first on Jewish mental patients before trying that ludicrous narrative on actual jews. The best tested method for convincing Jews of these stories is the rack and threat of death; without those incentives I fear you will have difficulty.

  24. dweller Said:

    Nonsense. Paul packaged himself, as he had a marketing job to accomplish.

    There’s no packaging about me, as I have no such mission.

    Paul=Honest Abe’s Used Cars. Would you buy a used car from Him? I suppose YOU would. 🙂 That makes you a fool.

    No way other to look at it. Your Paul was a deceitful liar who believed the ends justify the means and his means were lies and deceit. He was a Roman so what can you expect?

  25. @ bernard ross:

    “his mind goes to where the gerbils go. a common endeavor of some professing “abstinence”. Sometimes just a cover for the other, as some priests have been demonstrating. I understand that some of them study Torah in order to missionize the jews.”

    And some of them sling slime online — as it seems to be their nature.

  26. @ honeybee:

    “… but don’t bother flinging your un-kosher pig plop here.”

    “Oh, it’s no bother, yahnkel (nor is it treif, or anything remotely on the order of porcine manure).”

    “First gerbils and now fecal matter,where does you mind go?”

    The second line above was mine — and it was purely a RESPONSE to the first one, which WASN’T.

    So it’s pointless for you to address your question to me.

    Maybe you should ask it of the ding-a-ling who did write it.

  27. @ yamit82:

    “You obviously have no clue as to the purpose of the Christ’s first advent, so you’re in no position to hold forth as whether it was successful or not.”

    “Why would he have to defeat Mr. Seytan?”

    He didn’t have to defeat him. All he had to do was tempt him, even as “Seytan” tempts men.

    That is, he put Seytan in a position where he could not resist the “bait” (a cosmic “sting” operation, as it were)

    — whereupon Seytan effectively defeated himself.

    “There is no such animal in Jewish scripture or thought.”

    How would you know THAT?

  28. @ bernard ross:

    “You pretend to be a Jew based on the fact that you have some torah knowledge”

    I do not pretend.

    My being a Jew is not dependent on Torah knowledge, and I never said it was.

    You, for example, have zero Torah knowledge. Are you a Jew?

    “you have ‘packaged’ yourself like paul…”

    Nonsense. Paul packaged himself, as he had a marketing job to accomplish.

    There’s no packaging about me, as I have no such mission.

    … but unnlike paul do not own your lies.”

    What lies did he tell?

    “You refer to lies as ‘packaging’ which is your evidence that you are not a liar.”

    No; you twist my words to suit your purposes. I said Paul did not lie, but instead packaged himself.

    — But YOU are a liar, Bernard, for knowingly & willfully misrepresenting my words.

    What’s more, packaging is a perfectly legitimate marketing instrument, and it need not entail lying. (If you don’t know that, then I’m not surprised that you failed at business and still blame your competitors for it. Very much in character for the likes of PresentCompany.)

    ” No real jew could worship as a messiah the name most associated with Jewish persecution and suffering.”

    1. No real Jew could blame the innocent for the crimes of the guilty for ANY reason — let alone, because the two shared the same name.

    2. I don’t “worship” the messiah. My worship is reserved for the Most High — as was his.

    “didn’t get it right the first time so he’s coming back for a replay.”

    “You tried that one already, Bernard. Didn’t fly then. Doesn’t fly now either.”

    “It flies great”

    Right. (Famous last words: Icarus to Deadalus.)

  29. Shy Guy Said:

    yamit82 Said:
    I can’t recall many sequels being better than the original.
    I was hoping my sarcasm was obvious.

    It was, couldn’t resist.

  31. @ yamit82:

    “haNitzri did NOT get it ‘wrong,’ not the least little bit — not by a hair on my chinny-chin-chin.”

    “Blowing your house of lies down.”

    No lies. But blowing your NOSE might have some value; the snot seems to be dripping down & gumming up your keyboard.

    You obviously have no clue as to the purpose of the Christ’s first advent, so you’re in no position to hold forth as whether it was successful or not.

    “…no concept of a second coming exists.”

    So you’ve discovered a way of proving a negative. (Have you notified the Guinness people? — Surely there’s bound to be a reward in it for the info.)

    “Slam Dunk!”

    Dream on.

    @ yamit82:

    “And anyone who insults my messiah can expect me to return the favor.”

    “Sounds threatening, good thing your prophet isn’t called Mohamed.”

    Poor choice of words on my part.

    What I meant was: I insult the insulter.

  32. @ Shy Guy:
    You’re lazy.

    “Read pages 63 and 64?

    “There are several paragraphs of text on those pages. Make your case in your own words, Shy, and if I need verification of support for your view, I’ll check it out. But I’m not going fishing while the clock is ticking.”

    “Don’t read it for all I care, intellectual twit.”

    No twiterie on this end. Much less complicated than that actually: a simple matter of shepherding most effectively what limited time is available to me online.

    As for YOUR end:
    Putting somebody else’s writing to work for you in LIEU of your own (as distinct from offering it in addition to your own) cannot make whatever point you intend, because the writer isn’t here to be questioned on followup. If you won’t (or can’t) state a position — and an argument in support of it — in your own words, then you don’t have a case:

    — you’re merely cheering a team.

    A cited author may (or may not) have a case, but he isn’t online to field grounders in relation to it. So his only value to a discourse is as source material.

    If you’re going to post, then post what you think in your own words. They may not have the fluidity & grace of an established writer, but their practical value is actually much greater: because they come with the source that produced them.

    “Intellectual twit”? — no

    — but YOU are an intellectual sloth.

  33. honeybee Said:

    May I wish you a Goble-Tov!!

    thanks, and a happy thanksgiving day to you, Tex and all your family, and all the israpundits who celebrate it.

  34. honeybee Said:

    Has any else in Amer. Hist pulled off a palace coop, nnnnnnnnoooooooooo

    I doubt that they would tell us. Even easier to conceal before modern communication.

  35. honeybee Said to Dweller:

    First gerbils and now fecal matter,where does you mind go?????????????

    his mind goes to where the gerbils go. a common endeavor of some professing “abstinence”. Sometimes just a cover for the other, as some priests have been demonstrating. I understand that some of them study Torah in order to missionize the jews.

  36. bernard ross Said:

    What did you think?

    Has any else in Amer. Hist pulled off a palace coop, nnnnnnnnoooooooooo Great man!!!!Darlin Going off line, baking pecan pies. May I wish you a Goble-Tov!!

  37. honeybee Said:

    LBJ brought electricity to South Texas, a Great Man and a Texan.

    Hitler built the autobahn. Did you view the link on LBJ and the Kennedy assassination I sent you? What did you think? have you ever seen a video of Thomas winking at LBJ just after he took the oath for president? Apparentlyy LBJ was in serious problems especially regarding baker and Sol Estes disclosures and JFK wanting him off the ticket.

  38. dweller Said:

    You’re simply into justifying your emotionalism, as means of giving yourself a sense of purpose.

    When you are in despair, trying to cover your foolish statements with a million quotes and red herrings, hoping they will be like straws lost in a haystack, you always morph uncontrollably into Dr. Joyce Brothers.

    dweller Said:

    and I’ve YET to knowingly tell a lie on this board.

    you can just call it “packaging” just like you called paul’s. 😛

  39. dweller Said:

    “… but don’t bother flinging your un-kosher pig plop here.”
    Oh, it’s no bother, yahnkel (nor is it treif, or anything remotely on the order of porcine manure).

    First gerbils and now fecal matter,where does you mind go?????????????

  42. bernard ross Said:

    Gee the funs gone when you have to spell it all out, shall I rewrite this reply or can you remember the beginning

    Tell me about it!!!!!!!!

    LBJ brought electricity to South Texas, a Great Man and a Texan.

  45. yamit82 Said:

    The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic prophecies.

    Don’t you believe in sequels? It’s gonna be like Rocky 2!

  46. dweller Said:

    And anyone who insults my messiah can expect me to return the favor.

    By all means, go ahead and insult our messiah.

    According to your own fallacious beliefs, that puts you in a bit of a conundrum. 🙂

  47. @ dweller:

    Quite so. But haNitzri did NOT get it ‘wrong,’ not the least little bit

    — not by a hair on my chinny-chin-chin.http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/jewsandjesus/

    Blowing your house of lies down.


    What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he will:

    A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).

    B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).

    C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: “Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore.” (Isaiah 2:4)

    D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: “God will be King over all the world—on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One” (Zechariah 14:9).

    The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic prophecies.

    Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming, but Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright, and no concept of a second coming exists. http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/jewsandjesus/

    Slam Dunk!!!!!!!!