Ted Belman. Feiglin is quite right that when Bibi accepted the two-state solution, we lost the justice of our cause. But that is not all we lost, we lost the right to build in Area C. When Bibi accepted the 10 month freeze, I bet he didn’t know that he would be forced to continue it and apply it to Jerusalem as well.
Bennett when in conversation with Indyk said “we’re inconsistent. You can’t say that you favor a Palestinian state and then build communities there.”
Dear Friends,
It is no coincidence that I have chosen the Bar Ilan University as the venue at which to present my political platform.
In all the officers’ training courses that I completed, one rule was highlighted: If you lose direction while navigating, return to the point at which you lost your way and from there, start again.
Here, in this place, where PM Netanyahu made his famous Bar Ilan speech, we lost our political and diplomatic direction.
Here, in this place, the National Camp accepted the principle of two-states for two peoples, as it were – in the very heart of our Land.
Here, in this place, the National Camp adopted the seed of destruction that had sprouted during the sixties in the most radical leftist camps and was vehemently rejected by the Labor camp and the sane Left.
Thus, we return to here today, to the place at which we lost our direction. We return to the national ideological foundations and to the only diplomatic principle that is just, wise and realistic:
One state for one nation in one Land.
It was former Labor party PM Golda Meir who said, “There is no such thing as a Palestinian nation”. All the heads of the Labor party always pledged that they would never recognize and never hold any type of discussions with the terror organizations that vowed to liberate the Land of Israel from its Jews.
Why not?
What did the Left once understand that even the Right today does not comprehend?
Until the Oslo Accords, the entire nation – Right and Left – understood that there is an inherent difference between border disputes with neighboring Arab countries and the conflict with the PLO.
The wars with our neighbors can be ended with one type of agreement or another.
But with the PLO, the conflict is not territorial. They claim ownership of the entire Land. The PLO is the organization for the liberation of the entire Land of Israel from all the Jews. Thus, recognition of the organization is recognition of the justice of its claim.
What we lost in the Oslo Accords, which were brought to us by the Left and the rationale for which the Right adopted – is much more than parts of our heartland. What we lost is the most powerful weapon of all: We lost the sense of the justice of our cause.
Do you understand?
It makes no difference how strong you are, how technological you are, how many fences, cement blocks and Iron Dome batteries you position. It also doesn’t matter how humane you are and how cruel the other side is. What ultimately determines world opinion is very simple:
Who is the just side of the story?
When we shook hands and hugged the most nefarious murderers, when we released them from their prison cells and gave them the heart of our Land and the holiest places in our country – we lost the basic justice and legitimacy for our existence.
That is how we got to the situation in which they can fire missiles at Tel Aviv and win world approval…
They are convinced of the justice of their cause, while we merely shoot missiles against their missiles.
For when we lost the sense of the justice of our cause, all that remained was the principle of self-defense.
Yes, dear friends.
Today, they shoot at civilian population centers, we do not do so – and nevertheless world opinion always favors them – simply because the world will always take the side of the just.
As such, the first principle in any diplomatic/security strategy is to restore our lost sense of justice.
Oslo, the unilateral retreats and surrender of territory have brought us nothing but war. They have brought violent, murderous terror upon us – tens of times more than in the past.
They brought long-range missiles upon us.
They brought us the terror tunnel threat.
Today, it is already clear to all: This is not the right direction.
Prudent leadership must be willing to face reality.
Responsible leadership must strive for the only diplomatic solution:
One state for one nation in one Land.
By no coincidence, this is exactly what is clearly written in the Likud charter:
“Application of sovereignty in all parts of the Land of Israel in our hands.”
We must return to the foundations that we have abandoned.
We must act with resolve to apply Israeli sovereignty in all parts of our Homeland.
The abandonment of sovereignty, particularly on the Temple Mount, means the loss of security in Tel Aviv. It invites terror into every home in Israel.
This is our Land – ours alone!
This is our Land in the merit of the promise to our Forefathers, who rest in the Cave of Machpelah in Hebron.
This is our Land in the merit of Jerusalem and the Temple Mount, bought by our King, David.
This is our Land in the merit of the eternal covenant with our Father in Heaven, nurtured over the millennia.
This is our Land, to which we have been faithful for over 2000 years of exile.
This is our Land, which has been faithful to us and in which no other national entity has risen since we were exiled from it.
This is our Land, also recognized as ours by the nations of the world in the Balfour Declaration and the San Remo Conference. No other significant legislation was ever passed.
This is our Land, it is ours alone. And as we have seen time and again, any other statement brings about:
More terror,
More international pressure
and more loss of legitimacy.
The Likud under my leadership will fundamentally rectify the terrible mistake of the Oslo Accords and restore security and peace to Israel’s residents.
How will we apply the one-state principle?
First, we must understand: The Oslo era is over!
Israel has no obligation to unilaterally uphold the agreement, which was abrogated by the Arab side at every opportunity and from every possible perspective.
Israel will declare that the open support of terror and the countless betrayals of the Arab side have depleted the Oslo Accords of all content and that from our point of view, these accords are null and void.
Israel will restore its full control in all the territory abandoned as per the Accords – as it did in the Defensive Shield Operation.
After restoration of its control, Israel will declare its complete sovereignty over the entire area.
The Arab residents of these areas will be able to choose between three options.
But before I elaborate, a few words on demography:
The demographic direction in Israel has unrecognizably changed in the past decade. The only woman in the world who today gives birth to more children than her mother is the Jewish woman in the Land of Israel. Yes, including the Jewish woman in Tel Aviv.
On the other side of the coin, there is steady Arab emigration from our Land.
According to these current trends and with no promotion of emigration, the Jewish majority in the area between the Jordan and the Mediterranean Sea will grow to 80% in the next 15 years.
This working assumption takes into account the projected aliyah of just half a million Jews during that time period. I have no doubt that a much larger aliyah of a million and a half new immigrants will actually take place in the coming decade: From Ukraine, France and the entire world.
In light of these statistics, there is clearly no reason for us to despair and bequeath the land that we received on a silver platter from our parents to our children – as a terror state.
Another vital statistic for understanding Israel’s next necessary diplomatic steps:
According to comprehensive surveys frequently publicized in Israel, approximately 65% of the Arabs in Judea and Samaria are interested in emigration and approximately 90% of the Arabs of Gaza would like to emigrate. They are captive to regimes that do not allow them to actualize their will. Young people in Gaza currently pay thousands of dollars for a place in a rickety boat to the shores of Italy. Sometimes they drown in the open seas.
After liberating the Gazans from the Hamas regime and the youth of Judea and Samaria from the puppet regime of terror, the will be offered one of the following three options:
Option 1: Permanent Resident Status: The condition for receiving this status is a clean record and acceptance of Israeli sovereignty.
Option 2: After a period of time to be determined, receipt of Israeli citizenship. Conditions for citizenship would be public declaration of loyalty to Israel and national service. (It is Israel’s full right to scrupulously examine a public that has fought it for years prior to offering it citizenship).
The third option, which I believe is the most fair and attractive:
Those who do not wish to accept Israeli sovereignty can receive a respectable emigration basket and generous aid to pursue their future elsewhere. The costs of this option are miniscule in comparison to the astronomical sums of money that Israel has invested in the two-state idea.
What about international pressure?
As above, the world supports the just and resolute.
Israel merited the status of ally and economic and defense aid from the US only after it conquered Judea, Samaria, Gaza, Jerusalem, the Golan Heights and Sinai in the Six Day War.
True, we can anticipate a wave of condemnation, as in the past, when we bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor.
But with resolute Israeli leadership, the world will understand that the rules of the game have changed; that the boss has returned and that we have restored to ourselves the most important weapon of all: belief in the justice of our cause!
Then, the world will once again turn a smiling face to Israel, as it did after the Six Day War.
For this to happen, we must once again believe in ourselves. To do so, we must strengthen Israel’s Jewish identity.
Israel’s Jewish identity is at the foundation of this enterprise. Jewish identity is the basis that gathers and unites Israeli society as a strong society that firmly advocates its rights and stands strong in the face of external pressure and threats.
I will act to strengthen the Jewish identity of the State of Israel.
I will act to fortify Israel’s family values.
I will act to buttress the personal liberty of every Israeli citizen.
Solid identity and true concern for the liberty and prosperity of every citizen will fill the hearts of our youth with a sense of pride and belonging to their Land.
No longer will our young people be enticed to seek their future overseas – because of the high price of chocolate desserts.
But pride and a sense of belonging are not enough. The Likud must once again raise the economic and social flag.
Over the past two years, the Likud has disconnected from the citizens. The social and economic ministries – all of them! – were given to coalition ‘atmosphere’ parties. This is a mistake and fiasco that must not be repeated! We must restore economic leadership to the socially-aware Likud.
I am committed to fundamentally changing the economic situation in Israel.
I am committed to an uncompromising battle against the high cost of living and the unreasonable economic burden that rests on the shoulders of the average citizen.
Under my leadership, the Likud will not allow the food and housing cartels to charge prices that are more than double the norm in the world.
I will act to truly open the markets, to truly dissolve the monopolies and to truly create competition, which will surely lower prices.
The key to rehabilitating Israel’s economy is to create competition in the market – not to lower the Value Added Tax – not on housing and not on food.
The principle that successfully dissolved the monopoly on cellular phones in Israel must be applied in the housing market, the retail market and the financial markets.
The Likud under my leadership will drastically reduce the cost of land for construction. The State currently holds 93% of Israel’s land reserves. It could lower the price of that land immediately.
Under my leadership, the Likud will embark on a gradual process of transferring ownership of the land from the State to the citizens.
The liberation of the central mountain range in Judea and Samaria for accelerated construction will also quickly lower the prices of land and housing in the entire country.
In the retail market, we will open basic food and consumer items to competitive imports with equal conditions.
In the financial market, we will create true competition between the banks. We will ease the procedure for the opening of new banks and we will stop the robbing of our pensions by the insurance companies.
Dear friends,
I am offering you leadership with faith; leadership that is completely different than what we have become accustomed to.
I offer leadership – so lacking in these days – with a true and clear ideological path. I offer leadership of integrity and reliability; leadership that does not change course with every new survey; leadership that means what it says and implements what it promises.
I am convinced that this type of leadership will restore the many mandates that the Likud lost to parties with a better-defined agenda in the National Camp and will transform the Likud into Israel’s undisputed leadership party.
Last week, a survey showed that the Likud under my leadership would win 18 mandates. That is only the beginning.
When the National Camp will understand that it has to whom to turn, those 18 mandates will be no more than the floor from which we will achieve the mandate ceiling that will restore the Likud’s strength as in the past.
The time has come to lead the change; to get the Likud back on the right diplomatic and economic course.
The time has come to bring back our friends and colleagues who have left the Likud for other parties.
I call upon you to vote for the right path for the Likud. For honest and reliable leadership.
I call upon you to vote for me, to strengthen the Likud and to return our country – with security and prosperity – to its true course and destiny.
Thank you.
Felix Quigley Said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66SMbvoPOuA
Felix Quigley Said:
apparently this is your reason for disagreement
Felix Quigley Said:
Israel has state power controls YS and controls area C completely, all that is necessary to settle Jews in area C is to cease obstructing that settlement by the GOI. State pwoer is not the problem, the citixens of Israel are the problem in that they must first decide to make Jewish settlement of YS a goal and then request that from their gov. Even if their goal is annexation Jewish settlement will lead to that achivement. I dont care whether the state of Israel rules YS or a new Jewish state of settlers… the prime goal is Jews in ALL of Israel. After C then on to A&B and reclaiming gaza. But first deal with the easiest.
Felix Quigley Said:
Perhaps you lack imagination for the simple solutions or perhaps you are fixated on “REVOLUTION” as your goal regardless of what happens afterwards. Jews in YS is the easiest first goal to reach without war or conflict, do the first baby step without war or revolution. However, it depends on a change of mind in the Israeli citizen, as do war and revolution.
yamit82 Said:
so waiting and depending upon the pals is one of your “realistic” solutions?
yamit82 Said:
how about settling area C to start, that might bait them, and if it doisn’t you have the added bonus of Jews populating area C. It appears that you prefer to have a war with the purpose of driving them out of A&B before even making use of settling C. You dont need a war to settle C.
yamit82 Said:
why use them then after a war when you have already conqured YS, fully control area C with no physical obstruction to settling C. If you cant do it with C why bother with a war for A&B?
I asked for a realistic solution but I beleive all of these depend on the pals and a war, which gets less for Jews than what now exists. It is unrealistic to wait for the pals to start a war as lots of wars were started and won by Israel so the same would happen again. Right now there is all the vacant land in C which Israel does nothing with and no one physically prevents Jews except the gov of Israel. after a qar for q&B they will do what they have in the past and that will once more NOT include settling Jews. Settling Jews in area C needs no approval from outside or anyone, just the GOI ceasing its war on Jewishh settlement. Jewish settlement resulted in the state of Israel, the same is true for C and anything more. Jewish settlement is the most realistic and least physically obstructed solution and only depends on the willo of the Israelis to make it happen. After the settlement ALL else wil follow. The only places that Israel wil hold onto is where Jews live, they are even willing to give land in Israel west of GL in order to keep the Jews in the major blocks. Jewish settlement now should be the focus; it is the easiest, most legal, and could start immediately after Israeli decision.
But to follow on for Israel to annex j and s then it is imperative to have a government in power, that is heading the state in Israel, that will take such measures. From where will such a government come?
B Ross says settling Jews is not dependent on annexation. I do disagree. It is of paramount importance to annex first and then follow that from that position of state power to take the next step. That is the revolutionary road. In this road the key issue is state power. B Ross puts the cart before the horse. I cannot imagine a more dangerous road to follow than that of b Ross.
Briefly I find that comments above and also feiglin do not address the Palestinian narrative issue. They are product of a parochial type group, not true nation , not truly ISRAELI though you claim that
Yamit I do not demand but seek to know your position on statement by feiglin
B Ross using a phone to write. Please make allowance. I will place name at top so context shoul clarify
yamit82 Said:
HMMM, the GOI maintains the public in ignorance and myths and avoids,restricts and limits such “highly emotive” issues, like the Mount, settlement. The Japanese beleive in their claim whereas the GOI believes the Jews deserve crap.
bernard ross Said:
Sharon agreed to a Bush demand not to expand settlement but only to build within the parameters of existing settlements in return we get XYZ? or nothing but it’s an American demand which Israel under Sharon agreed to.
Under Bush all Building over the green line was assessed by the Americans with the Help of Jewish traitors peace Now the their monetary value deducted from the aid package Israel received from the USA. I don’t know if it’s still enforced but I suspect under Obama it is.
@ bernard ross:
Either wait for the Palis to goad us into total reconquest of all Y&S or bait them into a conflict where we will reconquer all of Y&S. Then we can use you legal arguments to defend our gains and annexation.
bernard ross Said:
yamit82 Said:
Why should those arabs prevent the GOI from settling jew in YS. You are not relating your answers to my questions. Settling Jews is not dependent upon annexation in the short term.
yamit82 Said:
How do you do it NOW, and how does that prevent settling Jews in area C of YS? All I am talking about is settling Jews in area C of YS, it is being prevented by the GOI intentionally and that is why they are afraid to utter these frightening words:
bernard ross Said:
just ask the PM and FM to declare this truth in words……….. the effect will be magical as the GOI well knows which is why they are so frightened to utter the taboo 😛
If the GOI, PM and FM declared this truth and made it law everything would change. Isn’t it astounding that a Jewish gov, a Jewish PM and a Jewish FM cannot utter the words; I am not sure that passing a law declaring it legal is even necessary, perhaps its a matter of simply NOT obstructing Jewish settlement. Of course this might result in all the things threatened like sanctions and isolation but it does not require a war unless someone else starts it. I am trying to show you that the most major thing is not being physically prevented by anyone except Israel. Words of power which if repeated by israelis and their gov. will unleash the only possible results.
@ bernard ross:
Don’t want the Arabs and there is no way 50K Arabs or 100K Arabs would not in short order become a half million or more.
There is no way yu can prevent a movement from area’s A and B to C. We don’t have the manpower. There are many other reasons as well.
@ yamit82:
Israel annexed and settled Golan and has the threat of war from a militarized nation but can neither annex nor settle area C which doesnt belong to any nation and has few arabs? dont you see that israels problem is not power, not seizure and not war… it is the will to declare and allow what it finds taboo and frightening, more frightening than war.
yamit82 Said:
the Golan is a precedent, just do the same in YS or even start with area C. you don’t even have to annex, just declare Jewish settlement legal, say the words. Right now the GOI has made Jewish settlement in YS illegal and illegitimate de facto.
No force, no seizure is necessary: say the words!!!
Why do you want too talk about new wars when you cant even settle the most relevant Jewish land that is vacant RIGHT NOW!!!
bernard ross Said:
waiting for your answer 🙂
yamit82 Said:
first, there is no statute of limitations on those acquired rights. Second, there is no case or need for a case, there is merely a need to state it to diplomats, institutions, and Israelis and teach it in schools. Then settle area C, YS which need NO FORCE of seizure as it is ALREADY under the complete control of Israel.
yamit82 Said:
LOL, I think you are missing something: Israel already acquired territory in defensive wars, some more than once. Gaza, Sinai, YS,Golan, Lebanon. Israel could have made that claim and that claim is nowhere near as strong as the acquired rights claim of the Jewish people under the relevant agreements which you already know. Of all these territories taken in defensive wars only Golan was annexed. Israel still controls YS and controls area C completely. Settling Jews in Area C which has a majority Jews and needs NO FORCE OF SEIZURE only requires a declaration that it is legal and the rest can even be left to private interests. It is funny that you want to seize territory but every time you seized it only the golan was annexed or settled. It is funnier that you want to make a legal claim under a defensive war after poo pooing legal claims. Israel does not even need to annex or claim anything, all it needs to do is make a declaration and allow settlement. You dont need a new war. If area C cannot be settled which has a majority Jews, was acquired in a defensive war, due to the unwillingness of GOI to declare it legal, then why would you even chat about seizing more territories????????
NO WAR OR SEIZURE IS NECESSARY TO SETTLE JEWS IN AREA C OF YS, THEREFORE IT IS IRRELEVANT TO SPEAK OF WAR AND SEIZURE!!!!!!
bernard ross Said:
Legal rights not pursued or affected are not rights they have been aborted by default and the longer the time between the inseption of the legal right to the present the weaker the case till it will never be considered to be relevant. too much water under the bridge too complicated. But to take advantage of a defensive war to take and hold territory is a legally justified and even embedded in International war. The Russians still holding on to the Kuril Islands is still a precedent.
yamit82 Said:
If this is the reality which you perceive then what do you believe can realistically be achieved and how can that be achieved
yamit82 Said:
This statement appears to me to be irrelevant as power which is unwilling to be employed has no value. It is even more irrelevant in the context of your first statement I just quoted whereby no one will arise to employ that power to settle Jews in YS. The power to seize has already been utilized but the will to settle is absent, therefore that power of seizing has no value except under the temporary paradigm of security. Constantly repeating that only power counts but then doing nothing, after successfully employing that power, renders that repetition valueless and moot in this context.
@ bernard ross:
The day after Israel’s 67 war finished PM Eshkol offered to return all of the territories including jerusalem to the Arabs for Peace, Thus the beginning the Land for peace Paradigm. This was reinforced with the Camp David agreements and the peace treaty with Jordan. We even signed a short lived treaty with Lebanon. Based on the embedded belief of those who controlled the institutions of government and a compliant ans supportive media and press the concept became the only game in town and the lie began to be blieved by those who previously knew it was a lie but as the saying goes if you can’t beat em join em…. So a whole cottage peace business has sprung up and are a very powerful lobby. They will not concede or relinquish their cash cow willingly with out a fight to the death.
T utter what you want them to utter would be considered a heresy in all areas of power and influence in Israel and no other options have ever seriously been offered or presented to the people other than TSS.
The average Israel rationalizes it like this.
he don’t like Arabs want Arabs in Israel but believes for better or worse we are stuck with them. They don’t want the Arabs in Y&S either and are willing to give up land if it means separation from those Arabs…
They don’t belive the Arabs are serious about peace but don’t want wars so they are prepared to talk peace if to puts off fighting with them even though they have very low positive expectations from talking.
The people are caought in a catch 22 situation and every-time they voted for what they believed to be a strong nationalist leadership we got instead the left the Arabs and wars.
Can’t blame the people for what a Clique and small cabal has
has imposed on the state and the people who by now feel quite powerless to effect any major change.
Those few in Israel who might make such a declaration you support will never be elected or gain a position where he can say it and effectively change the consensus.
Still power is the only real legality and all the rest in the final analysis Blowin in the wind. We are a tiny country and very vulnerable, too vulnerable not as weak as many or most think but we do have limitations and then there are consequences not many would want to risk incurring.
yamit82 Said:
HUH??????????????
Israel already took it by force in 1967. what is clearly shown is that force alone has not resulted in the settlement of even area C. If you cant settle area C after 50 years which is not densely populated by arabs then it is obvious that the problem wrt settlement is something else. It is NOT the will to take it by force but the will to exercise the power AFTER it has been taken by force.
If they cannot even utter the words how do you expect them to implement the action, which has nothing to do with FORCE!
What prevents the settling of area C in YS ????????????????????????? 🙁
What prevents them from even uttering the words so as to take the first baby step??????????????????? 🙁
bernard ross Said:
even YOU are loathe to say the words because you are afraid that uttering those words give power to others whereas uttering those words gives power to Jews. Leave out the word legal then if you have trouble saying it. (psychobabble alert 🙂 )
All the world have no problem in uttering their opinion even when they know it is a lie, why cant Israel utter their opinion knowing it is the TRUTH! I want to hear a PM and FM unequivocally utter those words!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bernard ross Said:
It is if we take it by force and hold it by force. That is the only legality that matters. It’s the only truth that prevails. Who Empowered England and France to divide of the ottoman Empire between them???
In less than 18 years France fell to Germany like a powder puff and England only survived due to the sacrifices of the Russians in Blood and American aid first and later the full force of American economic and military might. But for that there would be no Europe as we know it today and no UN etc.
Then post Cold war release of documents have shown the duplicity of the British in their promises in writing and verbally to the Arabs contradicting the commitments made at San Remo. Nobody gave the Brits and the French rights as the then league of nations was their creation and did as it was told by their masters.
mar55 Said:
I do not see the Irish as any more stupid than leftist Israeli Jews or american leftist Jstreet Jews. Their information is filtered primarily through manipulated media and the GOI does not sufficiently repudiate the claims of the libeling diplomats and politicians wrt their false statements about Israel. In fact, I beleive that Israeli Jews have easier access to accurate media than american jews or the Irish. For example:
these words are good but unless there is Israeli action which bars any euro aid to gaza while this canard continues it is meaningless drivel.
as I have oft stated, as long as a GOI cannot bring itself to utter these words we should expect no different from anyone else, one follows the other in the natural order of things:
Felix Quigley Said:
you need to learn how to use the tools on this site
TO WHOM IS THIS ADDRESSED?
Felix Quigley Said:
use the reply or highlight button so we can know who you are addressing. feiglin does not appear to have accumulated a large enough base of support over a long period of time so I dont really know his chances for leadership or even to be a great influence in government. I am ignorant on Israels economy so I do not venture there. I support full sovereignty over all the land of Israel but I do not support citizenship for the arab enemy. I do not believe it is secure to invite your killer into your house. If any citizenship is given in the future I believe it should be at least 20 years. I believe the swiss do this wrt peace or war. In general I support arab emigration to be paid for by the arab nations who started the war and the UN who created and maintained the problem. As for their refugees I dont care, as no one did anything for the Jews expelled from arab lands. The west bank arabs had Jordanian citizenship and I believe that Jordans withdrawal of that citizenship should not be shouldered by Israel. Let them have Jordanian, UN or stateless passports with temporary residence permits until they emigrate. Those that prove their loyalty by deeds may be considered for citizenship on that basis but generally they are a hostile population that should leave. I haven’t read this statement.
However, you keep asking for my opinion but I still do not see yours expressed on this page?????
@ Felix Quigley:
Haven’t read it yet as a matter of fact and I don’t comment on every article or thread. I know what Feiglin thinks even without reading him.
I will comment if I choose to do so when I choose and not on demand by you.
Sherman disagrees with much of what you say and me too, plus Stalin was an evil antisemitic fucker
My point? It is obvious. You and Yamit are silent on feiglins statement.
@ bernard ross:
Bernard,there is no point. A shanty Irish talks for the sake of talking malarkey. One who venerates Trotsky as a hero cannot be very enlightened. An Red Irish waits for your opinion to copy it to his blog as his.
Even if he tries, could never rise enough to reach the height of the soles of yours or yamit82’s shoes.
Irish and stupid are equivalent.
@ bernard ross:
Bernard: There is no point. A shanty Irish talks for the sake of talking malarkey. Someone who venerates Trotsky
would never reach high enough to be at the height of the soles of your shoes. Irish and stupid are synonymous.
Felix Quigley Said:
what’s your point?
@ Felix Quigley:
FQ,
Despite that I would prefer a national leadership of Naftali Bennett and Moshe Feiglin, logical understanding of the frequently illogical Israeli system of political parties, coalition-building, and elections compel me to agree with Yamit’s take on this election. Binyamin Netanyahu controls Likud and Likud is likely to be the largest party around which any Jewish nationalist coalition will be built before the coming election in Spring 2015. Which means that at least from what we presently know about the pre-election dynamics, Netanyahu will in fact remain in office as prime minister of the State of Israel.
My hope — based to some degree on sizing up the political situation — may well impel Netanyahu to implement the policies of Bennett, Feiglin, Danon and a growing number of others. We are now hearing a steady drumbeat of important voices in Israeli public life calling for a total end to freezes of Jewish construction in Shomron and Yehuda, along with plans to annex all of Area C, maintenance of Jewish military control of Area B, and separately negotiated locally autonomous regimes in the Area A main cities populated with Arabs. The smart move for a politician such as Netanyhu — and he did not achieve his present power by dint either of luck or stupidity — would be to act as though he had led this drive for annexation right from the start, and claim credit for it. Stalin played that trick numerous times during his 29 years of power over the Soviet Politburo, and it worked like a charm.
And if they really are serious about following such a policy, which, in any case, is precisely what Israel needs in order to protect the country as well as to cause the Fatah gang to implode, is that it will not be long before many foreigners in the various leadership levels, such as the Congress of the United States, will take a positive interest in it as a means of protecting the only western-style democracy in the Middle East and also starting the process toward winding down the otherwise-permanent war between the Israelis and the Arabs who presently live under the corrupt rule of Fatah and Hamas. A decisive act can sometimes provide the lever to change an otherwise embedded but totally incorrect narrative such as we have seen develop in the West in regard to Israel and the Arabs.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
When people persistently believe that 2 + 2 = 7, the problem is not that they didn’t have a teacher who taught them 2 + 2 = 4.
With Obama giving indications that the US will not oppose the PA request to the UN Security Council to force Israel to surrender Yehuda and Shomron, it would be helpful if IsraPundit’s US readers contacted their Senators and urged them to oppose Obama’s threatened anti-Israel position.
As usual Yamit and b Ross evade taking position that is here on feiglin.
meaningless poll too many names which should hav been narrowed to 2-3.
2ndly we don’t vote for PM directly but for the party. BB could say poll 35% but the Likud 23% so BB would have de-facto 23% of the vote in fact.
These polls are agenda oriented and meant to at best confuse.
1 month before the elections begin paying attention to polls.
Every act of Arab terrorism raises the total of the Likud and Bayit Ha Yehudi even Lieberman will gain and all the parties to the left loose.
I have met Moshe and hosted him in my home many years ago. Then and now, he clearly understood and stated clearly all that is missing, and is misleading by our current leadership. His plans are tall dreams, but they must be carried through though blood and sweat, based on unshakeable conviction. If Likud still has any real honest ideal aspirations to win back our just ownership to the land according to the Mandate signed by the League of Nations, and based on the San Remo Resolution, Feiglin is the man to be part of the coalition.
I hope Moshe has a strong showing in the Likud primaries. Top 5 in the list or better. Otherwise, if he finishes 15th or after, he may as well leave Likud and join Bennet
Moshe Feiglin is the breath of fresh air that Israel needs at this juncture. He is straight talking, honest and thoroughly grounded in his moral ideology. In short he is everything lacking in all the politicians in the current leadership and in fact since the birth of the nation. He is a perfect role model for strengthening Jewish identity. While he comes from the orthodox world he will work with those who are secular as well. He doesn’t believe in religion by coercion. He does very much believe in the principles of government following the Jewish values espoused in the Torah.
Moshe, well said.
For those who want to understand the issues in detail, please refer to the work from 2003 found at:
http://www.onestateplan.com/background.html
I would be happy to answer any questions.
The people of Israel have been given a clear vision for a better future. If they fail to embrace this opportunity they will insure more and more suffering. It seems that Israel must suffer terrible pain before they learn to be real Jews.
Moshe Feiglin knows what he wants. He is one of the few people in Israeli public life with integrity and who has a vision for the country. I support him wholeheartedly irrespective of whether or not he wins the Likud leadership race. No other person in Israel has so clearly outlined the stakes for the country and the course it must take if it wishes to survive. Its not a man; its an idea whose time has come.