T. Belman. So what if we are putting the squeeze on them by withholding funds. Once again, the IDF wants Israel to ease their condition to avoid a flare-up. I say, I hope there is an explosiion. Time we went on offensive in Judea and Samaria. We must demilitarize it and deswtroyt Hamas there also.
TV report: The military echelon explicitly warned Netanyahu and the Cabinet ministers about a slippery slope in Judea and Samaria: We may end up with a third intifada there.
IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi and senior IDF officers informed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the War Cabinet ministers on several occasions that “Judea and Samaria are on the brink of explosion”, Channel 12 News reported on Monday.
According to the report, the military echelon explicitly warned against a slippery slope in the territories of Judea and Samaria that could end in another front that Israel would have to deal with in high intensity.
The senior officials in the defense establishment told the political echelon behind closed doors, “Judea and Samaria are on the verge of an explosion. We may end up there with a third intifada because of the unrest caused by the economic hardship and the lack of workers entering Israel.”
The warning, according to the report, comes against the backdrop of the non-approval of the entry of Palestinian Arab workers into Israel, after Netanyahu’s decision not to bring the decision to a Cabinet vote.
This economic unrest, according to the defense establishment and the IDF specifically, is expected to end in a violent outbreak, and they urged Netanyahu to hold a discussion dedicated to the issue.
@Adam Dalgliesh
An update on the Chabad tunnels:
https://news.yahoo.com/illegal-york-synagogue-tunnel-leads-163031478.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
@Reader
I ask who is making the comments because I want to know. It’s not your job to answer the question, but I thought you might know more than I because I stopped following RT a while ago. RT is certainly not your responsibility, but I appreciated the fact that you posted that article from there, so I could have a refresher course on what’s going on over there.
It seems to me that RT, being a Russian government publication, is an important window into Russian culture, for those people who are interested in the Ukraine war but don’t speak Russian or Ukrainian.
I had always naively assumed that those comments were from Russians, and I appreciate your observation that Russians in general wouldn’t be able to read and comment in English.
My experience with Israeli English language papers like JPost, Israel Times, Arutz Sheva and a few others, is that indeed, many Israelis comment in English, also many foreigners. So I didn’t even think about the issue of who comments in English on English RT.
But it would be good to know, because it’s all hosted by the Russian government, and whether it’s European Nazis, a few Russians who have studied English, or other people entirely, it’s good to know, because it’s information about Russia.
This happened to lead to the end of a story that started years ago, and I’ll tell it here because it’s good news. Years ago, I had a blog, and some of my fans were white nationalists, including a few actual neonazis. I was cordial to the more intelligent ones. There was one Russian neonazi who held me up as an examplet ot his followers as a Jew who could integrate with white people.
The RT comments yesterday reminded me of this person, and I looked him up. He now has a Substack that discusses ethnic and cultural issues from a pan-European perspective, but there is a complete absence of antisemitism. He analyzes the work of some Jewish writers respectfully and doesn’t even mention they’re Jewish, i.e. he has moved on. When I interacted with him back in the day, I saw this potential and thought I was doiing valuable work in allowing myself to be used as an example for some of these people. I was right, and I’m happy he has classier content these days. I will not mention his name because my old blog is embarrassing, so let it rest.
IDF logic : Pay them to avoid another explosion
One of these IDF must have a home ; Let’s ask him what he shall do if every week-end when he is at home , some burglars break his door and steal . Shall he offer them a nice meal , a bottle of wine to buy tranquility ?
This is the IDF logic ; kick the can further down the road .
It was payed at huge price since October 7th
@ketzel2
Why are you asking me?
I am not a moderator there.
In case you are implying that these comments could not be made by the “civilized” English-speaking Westerners, know that you are wrong.
Ted, I just made a comment about the RT story about the tunnel under the Lubovitcher headquarters that has fallen into electronic oblivion. Could you please fish it out and post it in this space? It makes some important corrections to the RT story, based on the reporting by the New York Press.
The RT version of events is an outright lie. Actually, the Hasidim did not build the tunnel. Instead, they were outraged when they discovered the tunnel, which undermined the entire structure, possibly causing its collapse. The reason that some (not all that many) Hasidim did not want the tunnels filled in immediately was that they wanted the police and prosecutors to first conduct a thorough investigation to determine who dug the tunnels and why. There are several theories about who dug the tunnrl, but no one knows for sure, Of course some Hasidim are concerned that the tunnelmight have been dug by people
As for the “riot.” It is true that the demonstration of the Hasidim who wanted a pause in the operation to fill in the tunnel was described in the New York Press as well as RT as a “riot,” and they made ten arrests. However, when I watched the videos of the “incident,” it was obvious that it was a very peaceful , orderly demonstration. After about fifteen minutes and some “dialogue: and negotiation: between the police and the Hasidim, the demonstrators dispersed and allowed the workers to proceed to fill in the tunnels with concrete.
I suspect that the reason why the police and the press (especially the New York Post) described this brief and peaceful demonstration by at most 30-40 people is neither the police nor the journalists are fond of the hasidim. Remember how deBlasio, when he was mayor, went so ffar as to lock Hasidic children in a small park, denying their parents and teachers access to them? Blazes exolanation for this outrage was that the children had not been innoculated for measles, and their was (allegedly) a measles epidemic in New York at the time.
@Reader
That’s right, I didn’t think of that. Who is making those comments? Europeans or what?
@ketzel2
Russian people do not read RT in English.
@Reader
RT comments are the most important part of their content. Is it not important to know how the Russian people and government feel about Jews? When we discuss Ukrainian Nazis, we need to read RT comments for balance.
@ketzel2
No one forces you to read their comments, I don’t, I know what to expect.
But the government urgently needs to bring in 170,000 foreign workers.
@Reader, thanks for the story about the tunnels. This RT article has comments! We can read beautiful philosemitic sentiments from our Russian friends who are rescuing the world from Ukrainian Nazis.
WEIRD
https://www.rt.com/news/590348-synagogue-tunnels-new-york/
And October 7 wouldn’t have occurred if only Israel sent more aid to Gaza.
Yeh, let’s follow Israel’s Miltitary elite blindly and see where that gets us.
The government “needs” to bring in 170,000 foreign workers.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/383201
What about bringing in 170,000 “foreign” Jews?!
Oh, I forgot, Jews don’t like to work.
Jonathan Pollard: The Cover Up of the Tunnels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoEQKMKjH-4
This was first published a long time ago:
This is from 1999:
@peloni1986
I agree with you.
@Laura pretends that she/he does not know what Trump did for Israel and the US. The arguments against Trump are weak. There is a long list of achievements made by Trump, and only people who do not want to know/see it can insist that Haley or DeSantis would be a better POTUS. Laura should read the bills/executive orders signed by DeSantis. Maybe then she/he understands the difference between him and Trump. Trump is a great leader and hero, and that’s why the majority of Americans love him.
I have always thought that adulation of Trump had biological basis, and I now found a good explanation (this is from a very long article, and is only one of the explanations/hypotheses there):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism
These millitary dudes are not interested in the safety of the “settlers” No rational person could think that hiring Arabs from the west bank would protect settlers from attacks, The military top brass still hasn’t figured out that Arab terrorists are motivated by religious and political fanaaticism, not by low incomes. They still cling tenaciously to the idea that giving money to the Palestinians will convince them to abandon terrorism and become friendly. The military brass supported hiring large numbers of workers from Gaza as well ass Judea and Samaria. It is unlikely that the October 7 attack would have occurred.
However, there is another important dimension to this desire to import Arab workers from Gaza,Judea and Smaria. Many Israeli businesses profited from this importation of cheap labor from the “territories.” Otherwise, these businesses, particularly those involved in constriuction and manufacturing, would have to Arab labor from inside Israel or imported foreign workers from the Phippines, Ukraine or wherever. All of these workers cost Israeli employers far more than the laborers from Yesha (Gaza, Judea and Samaria), Some Israeli businesses also made some money selling stuff to the Arabs in the “territories.” I have always suspected that the “conceptzia” that sending money to the Arabs in the territories would prevent terrorist attacks, or at least keep them to an “acceptable” or “manageable” level, was always influenced by its profitability to some Israeli businesses..
@Laura
What utter Trump Derangement salesmanship. The people who most strongly support Trump are the evangelical base, and there are an overwhelming number of them, which is why all the other candidates combined can’t get enough support to draw the ratings away from Trump when they are on the debate stage and Trump is just giving another interview. Do you really believe that there are that many antisemites in the US? If that were so, Trump, the very pro-Israel Trump with the very pro-Israel record and a Jewish favorite child and Jewish grand children, would never gain their support. I have said it before but it seems it needs repeating, MAGA is the most successful pro-Israel movement in history, bar none, and that is because of the people who support Trump are overwhelmingly philosemitic.
Also
For myself, I would prefer the party to return to one controlled by the American people. If this were already the case, Trump would never have been displaced. Ukraine would not be at war with Russia and Isael would be signing peace deals as Iran collapsed into economic ruin. The world would be a better place and Israel and America would each be enjoying their positions as relative leaders in the world. Supporting a stronger, more secure, more prosperous Israel makes for a stronger more secure and more prosperous America. Trump recognizes this, and so does his base. I would suggest that your bias against MAGA is misleading you to believe something which is clearly not supportable by the facts.
Unlike Desantis and Haley who ignored the election fraud which simultaneously placed the Dems in control of both the Executive and the Legislature, Trump will act to remedy the fraud being used to control the outcomes of elections. By doing so, he and he alone, will return America to be governed by the consent of the governed.
As far as your mention of Reaganites, it should be noted that Reagan was a powerful and important American president. He was able to do a great deal which aided the US and put the US at the forefront of the world, yet, his record as a powerful American leader is far less durable on the subject of Israel, and when compared to that of Trump, Reagan fails miserably.
We can discuss his efforts to stabilize the Mullahs in Iran with the sale of arms, or his demand that Israel withdraw from Lebanon, his preservation of the PLO, or the Reagan peace plan. You will not find a single action by Trump which affected Israel so detrimentally as any one of these Reagan policies.
@Ted I agree.
@ Laura. I watched the whole video.. Avi said nothing about Trump or any other individual on the right or left who was antisemitic. His message was that antisemitism was growing on the left and the right which is true but he offered absolutely no evidence to indicate how much either the left of the right is responsible. He simply expressed concern it was growing.
@Laura even though Trump I believe acts like an arrogant King. If he becomes POTUS again we will have lots of continuous drama, some caused by him and much will be caused by the DEMS who were trying to take out of office before he became POTUS in 2016 (with the Russian Hoax).
He is still better than Biden with his complete out of control border and idiot green policies, his ambiguous Israeli policies, his feeding Iran money………..etc.
I wished we had Haley or DeSantis but that is not looking likely.
I’m not saying he’s antisemitic, clearly he is not. I’m just pointing out the kind of people that he attracts disturbs me. I worry about them gaining more influence within the GOP in the future. The Trump movement has brought them into the mainstream of the GOP. I want the party to return to one controlled by Reaganites and evangelicals.
This is not going to sit well with folks here, but I must express what I’m feeling. Frankly, I’m not so sure we can trust Trump in a second term regarding Israel. He’s all about making deals. But there are no deals to be had with terrorists. He made a terrible deal with the taliban. And yes, while he revoked the Obama deal with Iran and sanctioned it, he is not as a principle opposed to making a deal with Iran, he just opposed Obama’s deal. The Iranian regime needs to be removed or at the very least their nuclear facilities need to be taken out. Trump is opposed to military confrontation, but sometimes that is the only way to deal with genocidal, terrorist regimes. There are not always deals that can be made when confronted with monsters driven by evil ideologies bent on exterminating us. Trump thinks every problem can be negotiated away.
Judea / Samaria Arabs must have their weapons removed. Including PA!
@Laura, I went to your link and wanted to force myself to watch the vid, but I’m not into it right now, because I want to enjoy breakfast. Maybe later. But right now I’ll just say, Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens are not mainstream Trump supporters, they have already been discredited. Tucker Carlson is a more complicated case, equally suspect but more polished.
Ever since Trump started his 1st campaign in 2016, I have had to defend him from these hit pieces, which Jews and Israelis lap up uncritically. Can’t they at least find something that will actually stick, like the fact that he’s old and doesn’t know how to pick advisors…But antisemitism? Everyone has followers that aren’t quite right, but what is Trump supposed to do about it? His popularity is based on the big tent, I don’t think he should jump into a pit and fight it out with opportunistic ex progressive black women and closet gay hispanics larping as white nationalists.
Deep dive into the growing antisemitism on the right. And these are the people who most strongly support Trump.
https://pulseofisrael.com/2024/01/08/right-antisemitism/