T. BELMAN. On Dec 1/20 I wrote this article, Belman: Pres Trump will declare Martial Law if necessary.
Two people wrote to me to say they were horrified that I would recommend Martial Law even though I wrote, “If he fails on both counts (legislators and court), he will declare a national emergency relying on the Insurrection Act and will do so before Biden’s inauguration and if needs be, before his certification.”
On Friday Trump’s legal team got shot down in Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona and I think in Georgia and by Justice Alito.
I urge you to listen to the Zoom interview below in which I interviewed Tom Zawistowski, the person behind the movement to recommend Martial Law to enable a new election to take place.
I stand by my opinion that Martial Law is a better option than conceding defeat. What say you?
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@ Sebastien Zorn:
I actually made “predictions” in TWO, both concerning Bennett and Sa’ar. My prediction wasn’t really much of a prediction,(only one corn was aching) it was just logic and common-sense.. Assuming that you are referring to where I said that Bennet wouldn’t be PM unless Sa’ar loses popularity. After all, Sa’ar, worthy as he is, is not in the same mental league as Netanyahu, who has battled successfully with some of the most powerful Presidents and PMs in the world. I doubt if Sa’ar would have anything like that capacity. Nor Bennett. Bennett would be like a more polished Ben Gurion, I feel .(not a prediction, an opinion) Surely you do too??
Do you recall that in the dim, misty past, about 18 months ago, a person named Gantz, got about 65% more seats that are projected for Sa’ar right now-with Bennett even further down the list…And where and what is he now, and will be after the next election. { Do you remember Tzipi Livni, who has an unparalleled ministerial record, Kadima, Hatnuah?}
My reasoning is based on the fact that Sa’ar has a much larger party than Bennett, having taken some of Bennet’s members. So naturally Sa’ar is not going to vote for Bennett to become PM….unless he’s mashugga, or they band together and rotate the PM position. Even so, they’d need Lieberman, and, dedicated right winger Zionists as they are, would have to ally with extreme lefties AND Lapid, who also fancies himself as PM….. So…let’s see….where was I….Never mind, it doesn’t matter, my corn has stopped aching.
@ Sebastien Zorn:
I don’t care what the Arabs build in their towns and villages. They can build until they smother themselves with overcrowding. But I would absolutely hate to see them build in Area C, or in other open areas where Jews might want to build. After all it OUR country, not theirs.
@ Edgar G.:
You only made a prediction in one.
@ Sebastien Zorn:
I have 4 posts just above, each about a different topic, so.. If it ain’t too impolite to ask, to which one are you referring.???
Your nose seems “a little out of joint”…I hope nothing I’ve said has caused you upset. ..??
As a pointer……. I generally go by which corns are aching…..with a little bit of Ching-Chong mixed in…a dash of pepper….and VOILA…!!!!
Edgar G. Said:
Hmm. Well, yes, that was the Likud statement I read.
Likud: We are saving the Negev, not abandoning it
Likud official responds to criticism of government decision to regulate 3 Bedouin settlements in the Negev.
@ Edgar G.:
What’s your source, Edgar? I Ching, Tarot, tea leaves, pendulum, Urim and Thumim, oracle at Delphi? Something else? Dying to know. Are you taking bets? What odds are you giving?
@ Sebastien Zorn:
Bennett will never be PM, at least not until Sa’ar loses popularity and his members join Yamina. And, as long as Netanyahu is active in politics he will always be the first choice of the People.
@ Sebastien Zorn:
I have looked further into the Bedouin “communities”. They are settlements to concentrate the Bedouin, who presently are spread all over the whole Negev. This will free up land for Israelis. A new Jewish city was authorised last month in the Negev.
@ Sebastien Zorn:
It really was not his motivation-if you’re speaking of Roberts. His motivation was his goal of doing Trump in. He PRETENDED that riots were his motivation. I thought that was clear. And I agree with, “not that it matters”.
@ Sebastien Zorn:
I think Bennett is being very nasty in his smart-aleck remark about not saving Netanyahu from his trial. I’ve heard, actually read him saying countless times that the trial was faked up and illegitimate.
As for putting the Bedouin town on the agenda does not mean passing them into law. Not by any means. Netanyahu thinks in calculus whilst other think in simple arithmetic. This is most likely the reason for the jealous upsurges of animosity against him. He is no different now to what he was when they were defending and supporting
him, and they see in him, a block to their ambitions, which have grown greater, the more complex the situation has become..
Just imagine ANY country putting it’s great world class statesman on trial for faked non-crimes, whilst he’s engaged in being instrumental in having many Arab nations make FULL peace with Israel,. a thing that no one ever saw coming, not would think to happen in their lifetimes.
Bennett and Sa’ar, whilst good local type politicians, and even maybe very good ministers for the local scene, could never do what Netanyahu has done, and never will. He is several steps above them, the only real Statesman Israel has had, since Weizmann. That is two only in Israel’s history. I’ve said this before……Am repeating it, not from forgetfulness but to re-iterate my opinion.
@ Edgar G.:
Huh? I just said that that was his motivation, not that it should matter. On another matter, I have to break ranks with you on Netanyahu. Either Bennet or Saar will do. Bibi has to go.
“Bennett: My goal is to replace Netanyahu
Yamina chairman blasts Netanyahu’s conduct. “I will not support moves that will rescue the prime minister from his trial.”
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/293514
@ Sebastien Zorn:
That’s what you get from old age and rotator cuff injuries….a baaad combination. I think any riots will be localised and may break out in co-ordinated areas, but the National Guards ..with real weapons, would soon take care of them. So I don’t take “riots” as seriously as Roberts pretended he did. He was using it as a ruse to hide his anti-Trump bias. Didn’t I say that already…….?? Old age without the cuff, maybe my broken nose can substitute (twice broken in the gentlemanly game of cricket-the last time-in Israel incidentally- was a real story…ask me sometime!!)
Talking about rotator cuff injuries, they are very common in boxing, very. But I had 61 fights and never suffered anything except a slight cut under one eye, one time only, never even a bleeding nose. Amateur of course but it was like professional, no headguards or other safety precautions.
@ Edgar G.:
That was Peloni1986 who made reference to a NYT article. Confusion on my part. But, the Bretibart article I posted said that Roberts mentioned riots. It also said that Roberts had been colluding against Trump before that, which is what you said. But, my point was that the riots bit was not far-fetched.
@ peloni1986:
Assuming that such will come to pass, which is still not certain, except for the hints and prognostications of comparatively unknown commentators and tale bearers, I believe that Trump will have picked choice people and it all will be carried out with very little disturbance. The opposition have no real belief that he will do anything but have to concede after what they believe is bluster.
@ Sebastien Zorn:
I didn’t know I was referring to a NYT article believe me. As for implying that I was implying that Roberts was afraid of riots I think you read my meaning wrongly. I said that even if they were communicating by screens , if the screens were in the next room as they most likely were, then the screaming about riots could be heard in the next room., that Roberts used the fact that their discussion was remote as a way of getting around admitting that he DID shout the asserted comments.
This is not implying that I doubted it, it’s suggesting that he’d found a way to not admit it. Very much like Clinton’s famous ..”It depends on what the meaning of is, is”..
@ Edgar G.:
I meant, “ibid.” Not sure it’s worth belaboring the point but you implied it was far-fetched that Roberts said he was afraid of riots. I posted an article which included your reference to your point that he had colluded against Trump for a while but ALSO quoted the whistleblower who said that Roberts shouted “aren’t you afraid of the riots if we hear this case.”
As to President Trump’s possibly giving off a false signal to throw his enemies off, I will concede that that is possible. While he has been the most honest and transparent president I have ever seen in governance, as a political strategist, he is a proponent of Sun Tzu’s “Art of War” which counsels that wars are won through deception. http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html
I wasn’t aware of the NYT article before you mentioned it. Pretty funny, I’m in New York, and you read it more than I.
@ Edgar G.:
Hi Edgar,
I could not agree with you more. I look forward with a sense of dread to the coming days. I am reminded of a phrase “when you’re up to your neck in alligators, it’s hard to remember that your initial objective was to drain the swamp.” As Trump fights the spawning elements of the swamp,he is constantly surrounded by an innumerable company of swamp creatures as reliant allies in a fight that they truly would rather lose than win. Trump, some time ago, stated that he learned a lesson from Nixon about the error in firing enemies that surround you, but I it does concern me that he would have such elements present in an advisory role in a meeting as crucial as the “war council”. But as you stated he is the only leader who can steer the ship of state without losing our sovereignty.
@ Edgar G.:
Hi Edgar,
I could not agree with you more. I look forward with a sense of dread to the coming days. I am reminded of a phrase “when you’re up to your neck in alligators, it’s hard to remember that your initial objective was to drain the swamp.” Trump is constantly fighting the swamp and as he does he is surrounded by an innumerable company of swamp creatures as reliant allies in a fight that they truly would rather lose than win.
@ peloni1986:
Things seem to be rapidly heating up to some action. Until now, it has ben mostly talking ; arguing, disputing etc. And whilst this is occurring, those in opposition seem to be revealing themselves more and more, caused by situations that Trump sets up.
Trump cannot afford any more to have those in close positions ,who are opposed to his policies and acquiescent to the theft of the election, and to the glaring facts that a civil war is taking place and that he is the only leader for those who want to keep America an independent sovereign state .
@ Sebastien Zorn:
With the way Trump’s mind works, he could easily be making use of the “fake news” term to hide what he intends to do; whether is it Martial Law or otherwise. It seemed far more brief than his usual castigations of fake news.
@ Sebastien Zorn:
I don’t understand your reference. “What is the same article”??
@ Sebastien Zorn:
Hi Sebastien,
I wrote on another page on this site about this earlier. I think the reference in the tweet was a response to the NYT reporting that use of martial law was discussed at the meeting when it wasn’t – hence “Just more knowingly bad reporting” rather than that he would never use martial law. Gen. Flynn, Sidney Powell and Patrick Byrne – all who were present confirmed earlier today via twitter that this part of the story was entirely false. Flynn has been outspoken in his support for the use of martial law at the appropriate point in time (namely much later down the road) but did not discuss this at the meeting. I, myself, have been supportive of the use of martial law, if needed, but I am unconvinced that Trump will go that route even if it becomes necessary.
On another note, Patrick Byrne was very elucidating in his description of the meeting. He noted that there were several people yelling (himself included) and that Mark Meadows and the White House Gen. Counsel Pat Cipollone and the Gen. Counsel’s staff were all providing Trump with advise to give up. He also stated that three of these individuals were caught lying to the president (that must have been an interesting moment) and that the Gen. Counsel was personally responsible for leaking the story to the press. That must have been some party.
Hate to say I told you so. This really is from his twitter account, @Donald Trump. I checked. .
@ Edgar G.:
same article
@ Sebastien Zorn:
That seems to be a round-about way of getting past the accusation. That they weren’t in the room. They don’t deny that the discussion took place.
It could have been heard if the screens were open in that room. Apart from this, we KNOW that Rberts has been siding with the liberals most of the time anyway, contrary to his declared adherence to the Constitution, as his hearing for appointment.
And the phone call I mentioned of which records are there, ……….. confirms the matter. Unless it was all a faked up lie, which I doubt, because of the factual behaviour of Roberts wo is the Big Boss on that Court..
@ Edgar G.:
@ Sebastien Zorn:
No I just can’t recall what it was it was a fleeting point that came to mind whilst posting on another subject, even at the time. If it had been anything about YOU… heaven forbid, I’d have treated it with the dignity and respect that I always do, for anything concerning you…..!!!
Roberts was not just afraid of riots-that is, if he actually was at all, and not just using it as a justification for his traitorous bent.. riots have nothing to do with him, they would be damped down quickly anyway. The court is in Washington far away from where riots might occur. And the Courts are well guarded anyway.
More has been revealed about him, a recording of a phone call he made to a friend in 2019, in which he said that he would “make sure that that f****would not be re-elected”. And his behaviour, and that of the court which takes it’s “orders” from him, seems to indicate just that.
You have just made an excellent point about the Abraham Accords, that I never would have though of. Seeing that it’s Trump, and they way his mind works , you may be just right. It’s a very good speculation anyway.as so much good has come from it. He and Netanyahu make a great pair.
The only thing I don’t like about it is the name “Abraham” I count that name and person as absolutely belonging only to the Jewish People.
@ Edgar G.:
Then again, he may scare Roberts, who apparently intimidated the court into refusing to hear the cases because he was afraid of riots, with the prospect of suspending the constitution and declaring martial law, and into hearing the case after all. He is a brilliant negotiator, after all. I wonder if he and Kushner realized that the partial sovereignty plan would never fly politically but decided from the beginning that he could use it to get the Abraham accords through, which is what happened. The man plays 4D chess, politically, when everybody else is playing tiddlywinks. And they dismissed him as an idiot, the fools.
In any case, if limited martial law is possible to redo the election and there is no other option, I support that, despite misgivings.
@ Edgar G.:
OK, Mussolini, Mossadegh, Tojo, Petain, Wilson, FDR, Huey Long?. If President Trump does it, I will support him because I trust his judgement but I have a feeling he won’t. The whole thing makes me very nervous, but then, big parts of the country are already living under martial law, in practice, aren’t we? Doing what? and were you referring to something I said?
@ Sebastien Zorn:
Sebastien…Tchk..!! I don’t think that you should even mention Hitler in this blog. Certainly not when referring -even in an oblique sense, to a needed action which may possibly be taken by President Trump, who has shown himself to be very prescient and controlled when needed. His “tantrums” are mostly faked and used for a particular effect that he wants to create. I thought we’d been all through that scenario weeks and months ago. I know I wrote extensively on it several times. Napoleon always did it, Nixon, and others I can’t think of.
The man is likely the most seasoned employer and assessor of people in the business world, in which he has been immersed in-the-field, all his life. He transposed it very successfully into the political world, his dealing with world leaders for the past 30-40 years a great asset. He’s been able to achieve political miracles that no other ever could do, without violence and much mayhem, absolute monarchs and etc, in bygone ages.
Hitler…that blood-thirsty maniacal mamzer.
About the matter re Ted. I recall doing it but can’t think of the reason, but there was one.
@ Adam Dalgliesh:
Well said, Adam, and succinctly, too. I would just add, to that power-mad politicians. I read that Michigan legislatures are trying to undercut Witmer by repealing the State of Emergency laws that she is basing herself on. State of Emergency laws are the way that heads of state in democracies usually make themselves dictators. It’s the method Hitler used, as a matter of fact.
Edgar G. Said:
Which answer and by whom, by me? I don’t recall it.
I doubt that Martial Law may be imposed by the Executive. Not due to lack of evidence supporting such action but out of precaution for what may/will follow. I joined the President’s preparations for 2022 and 2024. 2022 and 2024.
This video is pertinent, if true. I have found Dr. Turley to be reasonably reliable; but the viewer will have to investigate this video by himself. He quotes from Axios:
“Pentagon HALTS Biden Transition Briefings as Patriot Militias Are INFILTRATING Government!!!
“Posted by Steve Turley ? Dec 18, 2020 2:49:06 PM”
— https://www.turleytalks.com/videos/pentagon-halts-biden-transition-briefings-as-patriot-militias-are-infiltrating-government
@ Sebastien Zorn: All too true, Sebastien. We seem to be headed towards a China-controlled banana republic, ruled by a weird combination of crypto-communists and wealthy monopoly capitalists with close relations to their counterparts in China.
The electoral fraud, and the courts, Governors, and secretaries of state’s unwillingness to admit it, are all very real. But as I explained in comments under other articles, the martial law solution is a fantasy that isn’t going to happen. It would completely destroy Trump and is the last thing he wants.
I also put forward elsewhere on this site my own detailed plan to save the Trump presidency. It involves mobilizing civilians, not soldiers to wage the fight. Especially the Teamsters union, which could paralyze the country’s economy, or what’s left of it, and force Congress to see reason.
@ marcaaron:
A savvy commentator pointed out that President Trump must have realized months ago that the election would be rigged and that the courts wouldn’t want to even hear the case for fear of having to intervene and that the whole point of this is to sway public opinion through the public hearings which are convincing more and more of the public that something is rotten in the state of Denmark on so many levels. Republican legislators have submitted alternate slates of electors and Pence doesn’t have to certify Biden’s electors either. He also plays a role. The Republican base is pressuring McConnell and other Rinos to do the right thing and this could lead to corrective outcomes. In any case, if this isn’t corrected now, from the Dominion/Symantic machines to the fake absentee ballots to the last minute unconstitutional procedure changes, especially if the draconic rule of these governors under the seemingly endless lockdown continues and intensifies, we will probably have one party Chinese Communist influenced rule from here on out and voting will become superfluous. I, like more and more Americans and people around the world who are watching, have no doubts whatsoever that Trump won by possibly the biggest landslide in American history, or certainly one of them, and that Biden, who underperformed Obama and did poorly with every group everywhere but in these corrupted localities lost badly, in reality. We are being collectively gaslighted.
@ Sebastien Zorn:
I believe it is time for the R.P. to admit defeat while they can still save some face and some swing voters for the next election.
I support the idea, if nothing else works this one will.
I support the idea, if nothimg else works this one will.
@ Sebastien Zorn:
Antifa/BLM are busy barricading and occupying Portland neighborhoods, generally tearing down the place and attacking police who dare try to arrest them. That’s the state of the “peace” in Oregon’s main city.
BTW, I notice that Lin Wood is at it again, opposing President Trump and telling Republicans not to vote. He gets my Stupid Award for the day.
@ Sebastien Zorn:
I hadn’t noticed that..Good catch. Yes, although not proof for courts, it’s as potent an indicator as a picture of ballot stuffing to me. I don’t think that answer to TED on another topic was correct. He pointed out that (presumably if it goes to Congress) each state has only one vote, and asked how ballot rigging in one state affected the value of a person’s individual vote in another state. The commentators were saying that it waters down the value of a voter in another state.
A good question, he asked it of the new member; a retired lawyer with Supreme Court experience. I haven’t seen a response yet from him.
@ Edgar G.:
Isn’t it interesting how all the BLM and Antifa riots stopped as though a tap had been turned off when they thought Biden had won? Doesn’t this constitute proof positive that these are political terror arms of the Democrat party? Shouldn’t they all be arrested and sent up for a very long time along with their funders? In solitary confinement, of course. We wouldn’t want them to catch the CCP virus. What kind of a democracy can exist when the ruling party can just order street violence whenever it feels its hegemony threatened. This is beyond sedition, beyond election tampering. And, given the Chinese involvement, I would say, treason.
@ Murray Rubin:
Who did you vote for?
@ Murray Rubin:
Ge’wan you Democrat…!!
To try and annul the election is a road to violence .There is no way at this time the election can be turned over to Trump. Let the Supreme Court look over the evidence and call for Biden to b made president by the E.C.
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@ Edgar G.:
Michae[….Alas, a typo, it should read that I never turn in before about “3 a.m.”.
TED-All O.K. I suddenly got a brainwave… stupid me. I logged out and in again, the “Edit” is there as usual. I’m becoming quite a computer expert….
@ stevenl:
So nothing. I merely posted it as an item of news that others may not have had. As for the “so what” , you must surely be aware that it may have a big effect on the Trump Legal Team. Because the others closely associated with him, although not yet positive, are self quarantining…
So what….. THAT above was the so what. You sound like a verbrente Democrat;
forgive me of I’m wrong.
@ Michael S:
Ha ha…. I never turn in befoe about 2 a.m. Ever sinse kiddiehood my greatest pleasure was to read undisturbed after others were asleep. This subconscious desire stayed with me even after I was free to do as I pleased. So, as well as reading all day, I read half the night too. So feel free any sleepless night, to post to me. I may check in and see it, to answer.
I’m looking forward today to the R&R discussion on the results of Alito’s this morning deadline.. That is..if the results are also to be expected today. I don’t know.