By Ted Belman
A special lecture was given by Professor Edward Luttwak, USA: Senior Associate, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Washington; Chairman of the Board, AP Fleet; President, Servicios Amazonas. Author: Strategy: the Logic of War and Peace (1987/2002), The Grand Strategy of the Roman Empire (1976); The Grand Strategy of the Byzantine Empire (2009).
He made the point that before Britain entered into WWI she solved all of her long time disputes with her colonies and allies by giving them what they wanted. Because of that they remained allies and enabled her to win the war.
His point was that one should embrace one’s allies and should not jettisoning them on the eve of war.
I asked him What Israel should do with the US considering all the ways that the US keeps pressuring Israel. He said unless we have a different US in mind, we should stick with the one we got as painful as it my be.
Laura Said:
Not true, and it’s a mistake to believe it. The divestment and anti Israel movements today have the WASP churches behind them. Where are you living, Laura? Ku Klux, white power, et al, are all WASPS, the growing nazi movement, (patriot and white power) whom you could call WASP are pro Israel? or not anti semitic?
Laura, when WASPS were running the US, why did it take so long for them to even give jews the vote? You realise who brought about Jewish rights and equality? Liberals, marxists, who wanted to do away with WASP power. It wasn’t WASPS. The WASP world today, English, and even Irish, Scottish, Australian, and even Canadian are anti semitic. They’re not pro Israel. You could say they didn’t massacre us, like the British or Europeans did, but they were anti semitic none the less.
Yamit82
I cannot believe how clueless are some here. The blacks and hispanics were never the elites in the US, when it was anti semitic. It has nothing to do with WASP and whites being pro Israel.
Liberalism and it’s growth, and it’s being ‘trendy’ is the reason anti semitism became uncool. Just like being anti black was uncool. This was not the doing of the WASP elites, it was actually the ‘marxists’ who led this movement for civil rights. The WASPS opposed it, until they couldn’t.
The WASP elites in the US, Presbestryirans, Protestants, English/Irish and Scots immigrants were always anti semitic, Still are, the KOCH brothers? the oil barons? The Evangelicals are pro Israel and not necessarily because they’re white, black Evangelicals are pro Israel. It’s more to do with their jesus guy and less with them being pro Jewish which they are not. The Republican party may be pro Israel but they don’t like Jews, as Joe Lieberman found out.
@ Laura:
Laura, you’re misinformed. WASPS are anti semitic. Your WASP George Bush, colluding
What, then, was Plan B? It was “the subversion and eventual destruction of Israel.”
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/103576/the-cold-wars-arab-spring?all=1
Stroilov’s archives closely detail the Soviet mediation of secret negotiations between Washington and Baghdad during the fall of 1990. The superpowers apparently came near to agreement on rather extraordinary terms: Saddam would withdraw from Kuwait in exchange for a scheme, proposed by the Soviets, to hold a U.N.-sponsored international conference designed to result in the disarmament and dismemberment of Israel.
The documents show that George H.W. Bush agreed to that deal in principle—so long as the linkage was kept secret.
He wanted Saddam to withdraw from Kuwait as if unconditionally; the United States would then pressure Israel to join an ostensibly unrelated “peace process.”
@ Laura:
jk
According to surveys on antisemitism I’ve seen about 28% of Americans are hard core Antisemites and another 30% hold antisemitic stereotypes.
That works out in raw numbers to (discountig minors under the age of 10 )to around 120 million antisemitic Americans, mostly Black and Hispanics but not just.
@ yamit82:
I would rather hope Laura is wrong on this account.
I just hope and pray the people who will constitute the majority of America in the future are Americans and act accordingly.
We are one nation undivided.
If we are unable to act like an American then we should not be here and should return to the land of our origin.
@ Laura:
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Sounds ominous.
And as to the WASPS who have run America, at some point in the future when you see who will be running this country, you will long for the time when WASPS were in control and America was a great place for Jews. The people who will constitute the majority of America in the future won’t be kind to Jews, to say the least.
You’re naive if you think the Chinese aren’t antisemitic.
The American people are not antisemitic. Americans are the most pro-Israel. The policies of the government should not be confused with the feelings of Americans. So no, Joe Hamiltion is not right.
And no Yamit, Obama does not represent the majority of Americans. Americans made a mistake in 2008 as they did in 1976 and then rectified that.
When I first came to Israpundit, there was not so much anti-Americanism.
@ the phoenix:
A majority of the voters in America elected Obama directly and he still is polling in the high 40’s.
The likud with BB at it’s head garnered only 23% of the vote with Kadima getting a higher count than Likud.
It is a safer conclusion to state that Obama represents the majority of the American people more than the Likud with BB at it’s head, represents the Israeli people.
@ Joe Hamilton:
your right on Joe.
It’s no doubt a dangerous world and Israel has to be sure who her friends are and avoid those who claim to be her friends.
You will know your friends not by words but rather by their actions.
A friend will treat you like a friend and will support you without question.
The leadership has to consider and do what is best for Israel and her people and not be influenced by outsiders.
@ Joe Hamilton:
Your comments are excellent and well presented.
The problem, i believe, lies in the fact that the views and the actions of the leaders, do NOT reflect the true feelings and wishes of the population at large.
The bastard (literally and figuratively) that is presently occupying the w.h. Does NOT represent “America”, any more than the criminal actions of barak and bibi are a representation of the feelings and wishes of the Jewish (sorry, that ALL that counts, here) population of Israel.
In the case of Israel, the actions are totally opposite from what the ‘preelection rhetoric’ was all about….(you know, Iran is a threat, we will not allow…blah blah blah)
In the case of the half black bastard, he pretty much delivers what he said (respect Islam, we are not at war with Islam, Islam…Islam….”my Muslim faith”….). Of course in the case of Israel and the Jews (‘whom the ‘holy koran’. (spit!) tells us are the enemy of the faithful’)’, he had to do a bit of taquyia for all the useful idiots in his 2008 speech to aipac, as a then senator…..
Solution?
Dispose of the current garbage, masquerading as ‘leadership’, bring in new blood!
Littwack is a Breszinzky (Jimma the hillbilly moron Carter’s top foreign policy advisor) type who is hostile to Israel a Breszinsky lite. Therefore, who cares what he says. I would like to know what does the US provide Israel vs what problems have the “alliance” caused for Israel. The US has been more supportive of the Arabs than of Israel. Therefore, how can anyone consider the US an ally of Israel? Their military credits actually damage Israel’s weapons industry. Meanwhile, the US has treated Israel like a banana republic and attempted to install a government of traitors such Peres, Rabin, Livni and the worst traitor of all OlMUTT. They continue to force Israel to lower security measures because they offend the child and baby murdering, terrorist mafia gangs of Fakestinian trespassers,thus making it easier for these vermin to continue to murder Jewish babies, children and other Jews.Israel would have made many billions more if they didn’t have to listen to the American Nazi State Department and not sell to China. China, in my opinion , may be a better ally than the US. Chinese people, have never been antisemitic and the ones who are highly educated truly admire Jews unlike the Waspish scum who have ruled the US.The US has never been an ally. Allies don’t force their allies to negotiate their own suicide, they don’t give life in prison without parole , for “spying” when if an American had been caught spying on Israel , he would not have spent a day in jail,don’t provide more weapons to the enemies of their ally than they do to the allied country.
Is America an ally?
Wrong answer!!