T. Belman. I agree with Liberman. Bibi thwarted many right wing policies. . He should have resigned for the benefit of Likud and Israel. He put himself above his party and country. He had no unfinished business other than to constrain the right from being too right wing.
Bennett, by forming a government is shooting himself in the foot. He has little support from his party for forming a government. He is desperately trying to keep ideological ministries in the hands of the right. His future depends on it. In any event, if he forms a government, it will be stable for four years and will accomplish no right wing agenda.
I prefer a fifth election. There is no substitute for a right wing government.
Yisrael Beytenu chairman: If Netanyahu had stepped aside, the Likud would have formed a government within a week, without a rotation.
Arutz Sheva Staff , May 09 , 2021 6:41 AM
The chairman of the Yisrael Beytenu party, Avigdor Liberman, intends to take the Finance Ministry in Naftali Bennett and Yair Lapid’s unity government, and is convinced there will be a rebellion within the Likud after the party moves into the opposition.
In an interview with journalist Nachum Barnea of the Yediot Aharonot newspaper, Liberman said, “I am well connected to the Likud. I have more friends and connections there than Netanyahu has. I tell you, the unrest against him is starting to bubble. Members of the Central Committee are talking. None of the Knesset members are speaking publicly, but you need to hear what they are saying in the conversations in the lobby behind the plenary.”
“Everyone except him would understand that he is the obstacle, and step aside; everyone would understand that if he had stepped aside, the Likud would have formed a government within a week, without a rotation. Once they internalize that they are in the opposition, and not for a month but for a long time, once we pass the law that says a Knesset member with an indictment cannot form a government – the riots will begin there.”
Liberman believes that the Bennett-Lapid government will last, saying, “Bennett, a Prime Minister with seven seats, has an interest in maintaining it. Lapid, who wants to be Prime Minister in two years’ time, has the same interest. Same goes for [Merav] Michaeli and [Nitzan] Horowitz, who will be ministers for the first time.”
The Yisrael Beytenu chairman explained why it is so important for him to end Netanyahu’s time in office. “Let us take my resignation from the post of Defense Minister. He and I had clear agreements about the Gaza Strip. One day I asked someone who has known Netanyahu for more years than me, ‘Say, why is he against everything I suggest?’ and he replied, ‘Are you an idiot? If you eliminate Haniyeh, you will be Prime Minister. He will not let you.’”
“In 1995, we were in the opposition. Netanyahu decided to support the Arabs’ motion of no confidence regarding the expropriation of land in eastern Jerusalem. ‘What are you doing?’ I asked him. ‘When there is an opportunity to topple a government, you don’t ask questions,’ he replied. Take his support for the Disengagement; take the evacuation of the Bedouin from Khan Al-Ahmar. As Defense Minister, I decide to evacuate. 24 hours before the evacuation, he torpedoes it. I do not understand the connection between Netanyahu and the right: He is not right-wing – he is an opportunist.”
“The coalition of change will be formed solely thanks to him. It will include those who worked with him, Sa’ar and Elkin, Bennett and Shaked, Lapid and Gantz, Hendel and Hauser. Everyone has gained experience and learned lessons. None of them is willing to work with him: His word means nothing,” Liberman said.
@ Bear Klein:
God, you are nasty!
OK, OK, I won’t!!!
@ peloni1986:
Then why it is the “Rightist” Likud who keeps giving away territory, freezing settlements, and doesn’t mind dividing Jerusalem and creating a “Palestinian” state?
How come Begin gave away Sinai and expelled the Jews who lived there?
How come the hero of Israel Ariel Sharon gave away Gaza and expelled the Jews who lived there?
How come the extremely conservative Hareidi parties always sell themselves to the highest bidder (they love Shimon Peres – he was so good to them!), regardless of what this bidder may do to the country they live in?
How come Netanyahu keeps dangling in front of the “world community” the hope of a divided Jerusalem and a “demilitarized Palestinian” state?
Shouldn’t they have said these things are non-negotiable, period, and never raised those topics again?
Or when the Left does it , it is betrayal but when the Right does it, it is “adroit maneuvers” ?
It sure looks like the right actions don’t follow the correct labels.
@ Reader:Reader I thought you understood I do not want you to address me! You twice agreed to this.
I am not interested in your views or comments!!!!!!!!
@ peloni1986:
Then why it is the “Rightist” Likud who keeps giving away territory, freezing settlements, and doesn’t mind dividing Jerusalem and creating a “Palestinian” state?
How come Begin gave away Sinai?
How come the hero of Israel Ariel Sharon gave away Gaza?
Shouldn’t they have said these things are non-negotiable, period, and never raised that topic again?
Or when the Left does it , it is betrayal but when the Right does it, it is “adroit maneuvers” ?
It sure looks like the right label doesn’t guarantee the right actions.
@ Reader:
I would entirely agree with this statement, which is why empowering the Left is dangerous.
Perhaps, I have mistaken your point, Reader, but your comments about wanting to judge people on their actions and not upon labels placed upon them by others, but where do you think these labels came from. When entering politics you choose the party you place yourself in; you choose the phrases you shout at rallies; you choose the votes you cast – these are all your own choices and not someone else’s label. These parties have, if not a history(as Labor and Likud), they have working principles that they work to enact. Your actions by these choices are self-inflicted parameters by which the easier notion of Left/Right, Liberal/Conservative, etc are traded about with ease of conversation. So, I do not accept them as a derogatory label used by one’s enemies, by rather as a self-descriptive value each places upon themselves. I would never consider myself a Leftist, for instance, and any who would so describe me would only serve to show their great ignorance or an intended slight.
But upon what basis do you believe they would act upon the good of the country? I am open minded enough to talk with the Left and attempt to bridge this divide, but it must approach a common understanding that is in the interest of the good of the state. Butwhen they tell me they want to partition the capital and divide the nation and create another Arab state to destroy us, such principles undermine any possible compromise that would not endanger the state. Additionally, I believe the real tragedy lies with the record of the many terrible deeds carried out by the Left and the many dead and destroyed lives that were the consequence of their empowerment. So if it means trusting them with more than trash collection or yard landscaping I can not bring myself to support such measures of trust. Their terrible deeds were too many and their successes too few, if any. It would be best if most of the political forces could be trusted to judge the best interest of the state, but the defining intentions of what is considered best by these disparate parties is too distinctly revealing that the Left and the Right have different models intended for the future and these differing models have no common ground on any significant issues.
So, whereas I do admire your hopes that we should be able to trust all parties to move the best interest of the state forward, such is a forlorn hope and such trust of good motives in the face of their toxic past record is not within my nature.
@ Bear Klein:
Hareidi parties will join any government which will give them “their piece of the pie”.
They are betting on Netanyahu now and playing the waiting game.
Currently RAAM is not willing to join the Unity government due to the fighting going on, This shows why a unity government or any government that is dependent on an Islamic party is simply not viable. Even if it forms which now has serious doubts how stable can it be if one or both of the Haredi parties does not join the government or supports it.
@ peloni1986:
I appreciate your response but I don’t think along the same lines you (and Caroline Glick, and many other people) do, i.e., Left/Right, Liberal/Conservative, Obama/not Obama, etc.
I prefer to judge people by their deeds and “the content of their character” and not by a label that someone has attached to them.
It is not a tragedy to have a government that consists of disparate parties if all these parties act together for the good of the country (do I need to state here what this means?)
It would be tragic if:
1) these people put their egos and ideology first and kept fighting among themselves without accomplishing anything positive OR
2) these people banded together to betray the purpose for which the Jewish State exists.
@Ted, Israel rarely has a government that lasts 4 years. How on earth do get to the deduction that this Unity government would last 4 years. It will not even have 61 members is made up so many divergent parties whose main reason for joining is to get rid of Bibi.
Once they rid of Bibi I will be surprised if they last much more than one year.
Yes, Bennett very well could be shooting himself in the foot politically. He in my mind is putting Israel first and his political career second unlike Bibi. The beauty of Bennett is that he is very rich self made man and politics for him is not a necessity.
Right now Bennett has instructed Yamina to vote for normalizing the outposts bill plus the override bill. So right-wing agenda is getting done thanks in part in Bennett before the formation of the new government.
@ Reader:
Sorry, Reader, while editing my response it seems both the before and after renditions were posted. I only meant for the second iteration to show up.
@ Reader:
Yes, Reader, I have read this, but thank you for sharing it. Reports such as these are not surprising to me as Obama has returned to power for three and half months now and I expected a move such as this during the last days of this most recent election. Such reports are the reasons that have motivated the calls of myself and many others for the early resolution to to the intractable nature of this political impasse, but the electorate has seen fit to act as if Obama was not on the ballot in Israel when, in fact, he was. Do you imagine that if Netanyahu was the trained dog of your fears, that the Left would have been devising the reinterpretation of legal definitions of bribery and the adoption of sham investigations into ice-cream purchases just to bring down their preferred stooge-candidate? No, they would celebrate their minion and extol his noble virtues as gloss over any misdeeds rather than stoop to these legal ventures they have developed for the solitary use against him and him alone.
Specifically in regards to Caroline’s report, it should not surprise anyone with ears to hear and eyes to see that what these one-world sources of tyranny are up to with their support of the imposter in the White House. It should give you even less comfort with the possible rise of an opportunity to have a Leftist dominated or even Leftist involved gov’t at a time as sensitive as this. Even if you it were true that Netanyahu is the demagogue you portray him as in your imaginings, do you also envisage that a Right wing gov’t would allow anyone to carry out your feared armageddon? It would take a Leftist dominated gov’t supported and controlled by a menacing anti-state faction which is what we are approaching with the proposed Bennett-Lapid coalition complete with the Islamist dentist’s support to bring this monstrosity to life, and even then it would fail. No gov’t with Netanyahu would support it or allow it. You speak of the riots outside the homes of politicians, but this imagined concern you harbor would bring a war to their doorsteps not riots. This will not come to pass, but if it could, it would require the dark shade of an ambitious man embroiled in deed consultation and mired in the clutches of a Leftist-non-state cabal who feared returning to the electorate for support of such misdeeds. And even then, no son of the Right would allow it.
@ Reader:
Yes I have read this and it should not surprise anyone with ears to hear and eyes to see that what these sources of are up to, and it should give you even less comfort in a Leftist dominated or even Leftist involved gov’t at this time. Even if you it were true that Netanyahu is the demagogue you portray him as in your imaginings, do you also envisage that a Right wing gov’t would allow anyone to carry out your feared armageddon? It would take a Leftist dominated gov’t supported and controlled by a menacing anti-state faction which is what we are approaching with the proposed Bennett-Lapid coalition complete with the Islamist dentist’s support to bring this monstrosity to life, and even then it would fail. No gov’t with Netanyahu would support it or allow it. You speak of the riots outside the homes of politicians, this would bring a war to their doorsteps not riots.
@ Reader:
Thank you for acknowledging my Vastly Superior Intellectual Gifts. I didn’t know you had that amount of sayechal. But again, Open that Company as I’ve advised you to do, (advice given from someone with vastly superior intellectual gifts).
Because, for the umpfth time, I am not concerned about Netanyahu’s whatever you say he’s done, because nobody knows the real reasons except himself-and he doesn’t confide in me.
What I’m wasting my superiot intellectual gifts on (obviously wasted) is your failure to understand that I’m referring to your unmitigated, utter unconsciousness, of your nonsensical crap, which at least you can’t blame Netanyahu for…oh…maybe YOU can…Maybe you DO….!! Maybe his ears are burning right this munute…!!
Get Wise…Get Smart.. i
@ Edgar G.:
Why don’t you try diverting your attention from Netanyahu’s lies and demagoguery delivered in his beautiful English with his magical baritone, and from his extremely entertaining “adroit maneuvers”, and turning it instead TO WHAT HE ACTUALLY DOES (as in his DOCUMENTED ACTIONS, not his beautiful speeches).
Shouldn’t be too hard, should it, with your vastly superior intellectual gifts.
@ peloni1986:
And her fears are also based on some fantasy?
And they will try to push it through quickly.
@ Reader</@ Reader:
I am convinced, and have been for a long time, that you should open a company entitled “NONSENSE INC. You’d do massive business, especially with the late night talk show humourists.
Peloni is absolutely correct, without Netanyahu at the helm, Israel wuld have been close to a 3rd world banana republic, with the political dogs snarling at one another over which bone…something like they are now, although still trying to portray a show of unity to the public.
Your first item for sale in your new company is your complaint that the PM says one thing and does another. Why should he tell YOU what he really intends when deeply immersed in protecting his one and only country. Likewise with his political opponents, even his close associates, in a place that leaks info like a colander trying to hold water. DUMBO
Surely his motives must be plain to all half-intelligent people (not you) . He can announce a “palestinian state” as much as he wants, but WHERE IS IT…… What help did he provide to set it up…?
………………………..MUMBO DUMBO MUMBO. It’s a new dance -often called “The Reader Shuffle” (off to Buffalo)…..,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
@ peloni1986:
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at your reaction.
I repeat (maybe you’ll deign to read it this time):
In May 2012 [a couple of weeks after his father died], Netanyahu officially recognized for the first time the right for Palestinians to have their own state in an official document, a letter to Mahmoud Abbas, though as before he declared it would have to be demilitarized [emphasis mine]
Full record:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu
This is about his (positive) opinion on dividing Jerusalem and a few other things (11 years ago):
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/netanyahu_eng.htm
@ peloni1986:
Please open the links and READ about his actual record of “good stewardship” before replying.
Or you wouldn’t read any of it because his actual record may shatter your dearly held illusions?
You think that the actual examples I gave in my post can be described as “good stewardship”?
@ Reader:
If you would prefer such abuse against a man with the record of good stewardship that Netanyahu holds, what will you bring against the power hungry pair who stand at the ready to unseat him with their leftist sanctimonious calls of unity which belies their real policy – surrender. Even as a puppet member amongst a largely leftist gov’t soiled with the blessing of the Muslim Brotherhood, I do not believe any member of the Right would allow such an evil plan to take root in the land of Israel. Not Netanyahu, not Bennett, none of them(maybe Lieberman, he seems completely controlled if you ask me). Your fears are based on some fantasy and I would share your horror if I could even slightly follow your reasoning, which I can happily state I can not. Netanyahu would never let this happen.
Maybe it’s time to quit weeping over the poor Bibi and about how unfairly he’s been treated?
He says one thing and does another in his foreign policy, he has alienated (by his betrayals and “adroit maneuvers”) all the politicians he has closely worked with (hence the “change bloc”).
His own party can’t stand him anymore.
As far as his “services to the state”, here is a short sampling (for his full record, click on the links below):
1) Gave away Hebron;
2) Froze the settlement construction;
3) In May 2012 [a couple of weeks after his father died], Netanyahu officially recognized for the first time the right for Palestinians to have their own state in an official document, a letter to Mahmoud Abbas, though as before he declared it would have to be demilitarized [emphasis mine]
Full record:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/netanyahu_eng.htm
I am convinced that if he manages to stay in power, we will have a “Palestinian” state on most of Judea and Samaria as early as this summer.
This is why the “world community” is in such a rush to condemn the Jerusalem “violence on both sides” with the UN Security Council(!!!) meeting scheduled for this Monday 05-10-21.
@ Adam Dalgliesh:
A very fair assessment.
I am shocked at how willing everyone is to throw Bibi under the bus, despite all his services to the state. None of the Lilliputians conspring to overthrow him is capable of being a competent prime minister. No one is even mentioning the possibility of a presidential pardon for him, which would allow him to retire with honor and a competent replacement, probably Yariv Levin, to replace him.
Is rael has the non-government that its political establishment richly deserves.