Krugman: Death Panels, VAT Will Fix Debt Crisis

By Ted Belman

Now that I have raised concerns about Palin’s stand on abortion, its time to do the same with her position on death panels.

Krugman dropped a bombshell on ABC’s “This Week with Christiane Amanpour” during a roundtable discussion about the economy and the recent findings of the U.S. Debt Reduction Commission.

    “Some years down the pike, we’re going to get the real solution, which is going to be a combination of death panels and sales taxes. It’s going to be that we’re actually going to take Medicare under control, and we’re going to have to get some additional revenue, probably from a VAT. But it’s not going to happen now.”


When Palin first drew attention to them, the Democrat reaction was denial. It took a year before experts would acknowledge she was right. Now Krugman has taken up the issue openly and directly.

“Death Panels” is another way to describe the limitation of services regardless of whether death is the issue.

I agree with Krugman. It is rational and needed to control costs. Who are we kidding to argue otherwise. All socialized systems have them. I would imagine that private insurance also has limitations on what they cover. There are limits to what society can afford. Then again if some people can afford to pay for the total cost of say by-pass surgery, the option should be availalbe to them.


You might want to think of it as a two tier system. Society offers a basic minimum of health care depending on what it can afford. Those who can afford Cadillac Care should be entitled to purchase it.

In Canada there was great resistence to a two tier system but I believe in many ways it is in place. For example the rich come to the States to buy care when it is not readily available in Canada.

I recently had a conversation with a intelligent Jewish woman who went on at great lengths about Palin selling pie-in-the-sky. Palin, she said, wants to harken back to a time that never was, wants solutions that are unrealistic. This shinning city on a hill endorsed slavery and closed its doors to Jews fleeing the Nazi holocaust etc. When Palin talks about cutting costs, is she talking about drastic surgery or just incremental things. The more drastic the surgery the more she will lose her support.

Rush Limbaugh takes up the challenge in The Daunting Task of Seriously Cutting the Size of Government.

Real solutions will take more than a sound bite. If anyone can put them in place, Palin can. Palin, alone, can get people to swallow the medicine. You have to trust your leader before you make sacrificies. No one else has the ability to keep the people on her side.

November 15, 2010 | 8 Comments »

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  1. Our free market health care system made this the best health care in the world

    Haha are you deluded!
    Only the rich get full health services and only the superclass gets full health care.
    This is superclass propaganda ad a lie. American Healthcare ranks very low on the scale by any standard. Show me the study that backs up your case , there are many rankings that show it is not.

    Even at that “best in the world ” is nothing compared to what best in the world should be.

    As far as Death Panels go, America has death panels – they are called “Health Insurance Companies” These organizations by definition are evil and repressive. No organization should make a profit on death and suffering – they make money by restricting health care – not by providing it. The people who run these are all criminals and murderers nd deserve the death penalty for their crimes.
    In America, when you need health services and it costs the company too much they will deny your claim – you are just lambs to the slaughter.

    America has a second Death panel – ti is called the superclass – by denying the population a share of the wealth ,it condemns the North American population to poverty, misery suffering and enslavement and early death – in short this death panel denies the human race it’s natural inheritance.

  2. Usually a very sick patient is his own death panel. This term is Nazi ludicrous. There have always been discussions on a very ill person’s future treatment as to whether further treatment is required or no further treatment. I mean if the patient’s condition is terminable, pain medication to keep him comfortable should be the prescribed manner.

    It seems to me a “death panel” could only exist if this attitude is applied to a not very sick, competent, and mostly mobile person.
    Like the Nazis did.

  3. Then food and housing should also be considered a basic human “right” that the government should provide for. I’m astounded that people can still promote socialism even though its been a proven failure. As I said before, the American system has provided for the best health care. For those who are too poor there already is medicaid and for the elderly medicare. There is absolutely no need to overhaul our health care system.

  4. I believe universal health care is as much a right as potable drinking water, clean air and modern national utilities infrastructure at the basic level. Those with more financial means will demand and receive better and more extensive benefits in any case under any system even totalitarian ones.

    The real debate in America is if basic health care is a citizens and human right. I say yes. Certainly all the right to lifers should be on board otherwise they are acquiescing in the certain deaths of many who can be saved or life prolonged with the proper care.

  5. I agree with Krugman. It is rational and needed to control costs. Who are we kidding to argue otherwise. All socialized systems have them.

    The Third Reich would have also agreed.

  6. America is the greatest nation in the history of the world.

    Laura, your right on. America a great nation put together with great people from various nations of the world who came together and wanted a better life and willing to work for and defend for it.

    In addition they were seeking religious freedom of expression. As a result Judeo-Christian principals came about and we became respectful of others.

    Our forefathers put together a great Constitution and a Bill of Rights to live by that would never grow old or become outdated.

  7. I agree with Krugman. It is rational and needed to control costs. Who are we kidding to argue otherwise. All socialized systems have them.

    This is exactly why we should NOT have socialized medicine. Maybe private insurance doesn’t cover everything, but in a free market system at least you can pay out of your own pocket. Our free market health care system made this the best health care in the world. Liberals will scoff at that but its true.

    I recently had a conversation with a intelligent Jewish woman who went on at great lengths about Palin selling pie-in-the-sky. Palin, she said, wants to harken back to a time that never was, wants solutions that are unrealistic. This shinning city on a hill endorsed slavery and closed its doors to Jews fleeing the Nazi holocaust etc. When Palin talks about cutting costs, is she talking about drastic surgery or just incremental things. The more drastic the surgery the more she will lose her support.

    Who says it never was? America is the greatest nation in the history of the world. It has provided more freedom and prosperity than any society in history. America also fought a civil war to end slavery. I’m really tired of the negativity about America by liberals. Where do they think its better?

    As to solutions that are unrealistic, it is the socialists who promote unrealistic utopian solutions. Its well established that socialism has failed everywhere its been tried.