It’s over. End Oslo and kick the PLO/PA out

Eden Atias, z"l. Murdered by an Arab terrorist.
Eden Atias, z”l. Murdered by an Arab terrorist.

By Fresno Zionism

Yet another Israeli Jew was murdered today by a Palestinian terrorist. Eden Atias was stabbed to death while he slept on a bus near the Afula bus station.

Security guards stopped the assailant, Hussein Jawadra, a 16-year-old Palestinian from Jenin who is residing in Israel illegally, and turned him over to security forces. Jawadra’s two cousins are both held in Israel. One of them was sentenced to three life sentences for the murder of two Israelis and for several counts of attempted murder. The other was jailed for 12 years for attempted murder.

Another news report tells us that

Northern District Police Commander Maj. Gen. Roni Atiya told Army Radio that the teen confessed to the act, saying he sought to avenge relatives who are imprisoned in Israel. “He told us he left his house this morning with a clear intent to harm Israelis because his uncles are jailed in Israel,” Atiya said.

MK Tzipi Hotovely (Likud) blamed the continuous incitement by the Palestinian Authority:

Abu Mazen [Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas] is fostering an indirect tactic of harming Israel. The killing of Jews is no longer perpetrated by the PA’s branches but by the ‘Palestinian street,’ which is fed, daily, by anti-Israeli propaganda. We cannot continue to negotiate peace when the PA clearly pursues terror.

And Meir Indor of the Almagor Terror Victims Association said,

the hand that held the knife today may have been that of a Palestinian teenager, but he was sent by Abu Mazen and his associates in the PA, who offer released murderers a hero’s welcome in Ramallah. By doing that they are raising another generation of young killers who grow up hoping to become Palestinian heroes.

Palestinian Arabs are doing their best to kill Jews every day, throwing rocks and firebombs or shooting and stabbing. The 16-year-old murderer in this case is following a family tradition, or should I say, a national one. I would go farther than Hotovely and Indor and say that Abbas and other PA officials responsible for creating these killers are themselves guilty of murder, and should be treated appropriately.

What every organ of the PA, media, schools, mosques, etc. are telling them is that the Jews stole their country and their honor, all their land is ‘occupied’, and that any action against occupiers is justified. Their greatest heroes are terrorists and the greatest honor is to become a martyr for the Palestinian cause.

Somehow, despite the fact that war is being waged against Israel, the nation is expected to respond by voluntarily giving up critical strategic ground to their enemy. This is supposedly the responsible, moral thing to do.

It is not. Suicide is not responsible or moral. I believe that it is time for Israel to say to the world “it’s over.”

The results of the Oslo experiment — which, in the best interpretation, was intended to test if the PLO could be serious about peace — are in: the PLO is a murderous terrorist gang which has never wavered from the vision of Yasser Arafat. It remains faithful to the PLO Charter:

Article 9: Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. Thus it is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase. The Palestinian Arab people assert their absolute determination and firm resolution to continue their armed struggle and to work for an armed popular revolution for the liberation of their country and their return to it. They also assert their right to normal life in Palestine and to exercise their right to self-determination and sovereignty over it.

Article 10: Commando action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war. This requires its escalation, comprehensiveness, and the mobilization of all the Palestinian popular and educational efforts and their organization and involvement in the armed Palestinian revolution. It also requires the achieving of unity for the national (watani) struggle among the different groupings of the Palestinian people, and between the Palestinian people and the Arab masses, so as to secure the continuation of the revolution, its escalation, and victory.

This charter was never revoked, and Arafat and his successors have not abandoned it.

“It’s over” means that the Oslo process, which granted the PLO authority to form the PA is over, and the Oslo Accords are dead. The PLO abrogated them in any event by applying for statehood at the UN, and now it must (finally) be recognized that it did so by making war, both in 2000 and today.

It means that the so-called ‘peace’ negotiations with the PLO are ended, and the ideas that have been promulgated in opposition to international law — that the 1949 armistice lines are borders, or that the ‘Palestinian people’ have national rights west of the Jordan, or that Jewish settlements outside the Green line are not entirely legitimate — are repudiated.

It means that the PLO is a terrorist organization, and should be treated as such.

It means that PLO/PA security forces can be disarmed. Terrorists — even (especially) PLO/PA leaders — can be expelled. Perhaps the Arab nations and EU that have been so concerned for the Palestinian Arabs will give them a home.

Israel can’t afford to any longer.

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  1. @ yamit82:

    “In any case, those who had not sought the role were sought out not so much by other men as by The Almighty, who knew their substance & potential better than they themselves.”

    “If that be the case then the results were so so; some good leaders emerged and many bad ones.”

    Having potential is no guarantee that one will live up to it.

    “G-d even fire[d] Elijah and gave the job to Elisha.”

    “Fired him”?

    He didn’t fire him

    — He promoted him.

  2. dweller Said:

    n any case, those who had not sought the role were sought out not so much by other men

    — as by The Almighty, who knew their substance & potential better than they themselves.

    If that be the case then the results were so so; some good leaders emerged and many bad ones. G-d even fires Elijah and gave the job to Elisha.

  3. dweller Said:

    In any case, those who had not sought the role were sought out not so much by other men
    — as by The Almighty, who knew their substance & potential better than they themselves.

    The Almighty moves in mysterios ways.

  4. @ Felix Quigley:

    “By the way Yamit has no perspective of building any leadership in Israel thus he will destroy ANY comment here by a non Jew…”

    You are QUITE right about that

    — allowing, of course, for two small corrections:

    It is correct to say that he will TRY to destroy any comment here by a non-Jew, or by anybody he can re-DEFINE as a ‘non-Jew.’ (There. FIFY.)

    But that’s not necessarily so terrible, because in taking his destructive shot, he often exposes his own unfitness.

    @ yamit82:

    “The concept of a Jewish leader is different from all others: Historical Jewish leaders were those who never sought the roles.”

    NOT “different from all others.”

    Uncommon, yes — but not unique in that respect.

    In any case, those who had not sought the role were sought out not so much by other men

    — as by The Almighty, who knew their substance & potential better than they themselves.

  5. Felix Quigley Said:

    To Yamit…Cohen is simply wrong in the main, not in all but in essence…things have moved on a lot since he wrote…and especially the claim that I make above that the Bolshevik Revolution SAVED THE JEWS FROM HOLOCAUST a claim I will defend till the end of time

    2 1/2 million of the 8 million immigrants who immigrated to America between 1880-1920 from Russia and Austria-Hungary were Jews. The word Russian includes immigrants of Russian ethnicity, along with eastern Slavs from Belorussia, Ukraine, and members of the former Hapsburg Austrian province of Galicia.

    A government sponsored policy, labeled “Cold Pogrom” or “Russification Program,” was created to destroy Jewish life and designed to “stamp out the many different ethnic cultures within the Czar’s realm.” It’s official hope was that (1/3 policy in Russia)- 1/3 killed, 1/3 leave, 1/3 assimilate (conversion to the Russian orthodox Church)

    Don’t Call Me Russian: The History of a Nationality

  6. Felix Quigley Said:

    To Yamit…Cohen is simply wrong in the main, not in all but in essence…things have moved on a lot since he wrote…and especially the claim that I make above that the Bolshevik Revolution SAVED THE JEWS FROM HOLOCAUST a claim I will defend till the end of time

    Saying that Cohen in the main was wrong with no supporting evidence or even reasons for your statement is imbecilic. What did he get wrong in your opinion and what right in your opinion? Falling back on the revolution of 1917 indicates that you have nothing more, even there the only thing the Bolshevics had going for them from a Jewish point of view is that they did not for the main part take part in the Pogroms and even at times interceded in favor of the Jews but that’s it. They made up for it after they attained power. More Jews ran from Russia and your Bolsheviks than from the Tzar.

  7. Bernard Ross Said:

    Technology has changed and advanced but anti semitism has not changed
    felix Quigley said:
    Of course you are wrong. Everything is in flux (Hegel, Marx, Engels and Lenin) But if you like leave them out of it,

    You wish to be taken seriously but you make statements such as these in rebuttal. You believe that declaring me wrong and name dropping the names of 4 dead communists is an argument, for something I know not what. Furthermore, stating that everything is in flux as a rebuttal to my argument is the same as saying things have changed because the last second I breathed in but the next second I will breathe out: a waste of time.
    Felix Quigley Said:

    urgently read “the devil that never diez” by Daniel Goldhagen, or reread it.

    you need first to urgently reread my argument because you have completely ignored it and have not spoken to one of my various statements specifically. It appears that your purpose is to come and make completely unsupported statements with the hope that calling the names of authors will be acceptable support. You stated nothing.
    Felix Quigley Said:

    “the devil that never diez” by Daniel Goldhagen, or reread it. It is the central thesis of his book, that Antisemitism has emerged in NEW FORMS

    NO citations from the book to support your argument???? Oddly the title infers the opposite: that the devil of anti semitism never dies. Furthermore, emerging in new forms is a meaningless statement without elaboration, relate it back to my argument please. I have already stated that anti semitism is global as a result of technological advance but the fundamentals, the libels, and the use of libels to incitement and the prime players: none of these have changed.
    I have not ridiculed your post this time although you are deserving of it. You insult me by calling me wrong without speaking to my specific submissions. You waste everyone’s time by making ludicrous statements without offering evidence, support or even a smidgen of an argument: you simply drop dead authors names and quote titles.

  8. Bernard Ross

    Technology has changed and advanced but anti semitism has not changed

    Of course you are wrong. Everything is in flux (Hegel, Marx, Engels and Lenin) But if you like leave them out of it, and urgently read “the devil that never diez” by Daniel Goldhagen, or reread it.

    It is the central thesis of his book, that Antisemitism has emerged in NEW FORMS

    To Yamit…Cohen is simply wrong in the main, not in all but in essence…things have moved on a lot since he wrote…and especially the claim that I make above that the Bolshevik Revolution SAVED THE JEWS FROM HOLOCAUST a claim I will defend till the end of time

  9. @ Felix Quigley:
    @ bernard ross:
    Why Do People Hate The Jews?

    Why has anti-Semitism been so pervasive in so many countries, in so many time periods and for so many reasons? (One begins to wonder. Perhaps there is something wrong with the Jews and Judaism? After all, there is an old Yiddish saying — “If one person calls you a donkey, ignore him; if two people call you a donkey, buy a saddle.”)

    Between the years 250 CE and 1948 CE – a period of 1,700 years – Jews have experienced more than eighty expulsions from various countries in Europe – an average of nearly one expulsion every twenty-one years. Jews were expelled from England, France, Austria, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Portugal, Bohemia, Moravia and seventy-one other countries.

    Historians have classified six explanations as to why people hate the Jews:

    Economic — “We hate Jews because they possess too much wealth and power.”
    Chosen People — “We hate Jews because they arrogantly claim that they are the chosen people.”
    Scapegoat — “Jews are a convenient group to single out and blame for our troubles.”
    Deicide — “We hate Jews because they killed Jesus.”
    Outsiders, — “We hate Jews because they are different than us.” (The dislike of the unlike.)
    Racial Theory — “We hate Jews because they are an inferior race.”

    As we examine the explanations, we must ask — Are they the causes for anti-Semitism or excuses for Anti-Semitism? The difference? If one takes away the cause, then anti-Semitism should no longer exist. If one can show a contradiction to the explanation, it demonstrates that the “cause” is not a reason, it is just an excuse. Let’s look at some contradictions:

    Economic — The Jews of 17th- 20th century Poland and Russia were dirt poor, had no influence and yet they were hated.

    Chosen People — a) In the late 19th century, the Jews of Germany denied “Choseness.” And then they worked on assimilation. Yet, the holocaust started there. b) Christians and Moslems profess to being the “Chosen people,” yet, the world and the anti-Semites tolerate them.

    Scapegoat — Any group must already be hated to be an effective scapegoat. The Scapegoat Theory does not then cause anti-Semitism. Rather, anti-Semitism is what makes the Jews a convenient scapegoat target. Hitler’s ranting and ravings would not be taken seriously if he said, “It’s the bicycle riders and the midgets who are destroying our society.”

    Deicide — a) the Christian Bible says the Romans killed Jesus, though Jews are mentioned as accomplices (claims that Jews killed Jesus came several hundred years later). How come the accomplices are persecuted and there isn’t an anti-Roman movement through history? b) Jesus himself said, “Forgive them [i.e., the Jews], for they know not what they do.” The Second Vatican Council in 1963 officially exonerated the Jews as the killers of Jesus. Neither statement of Christian belief lessened anti-Semitism.

    Outsiders — With the Enlightenment in the late 18th century, many Jews rushed to assimilate. Anti-Semitism should have stopped. Instead, for example, with the Nazis came the cry, in essence: “We hate you, not because you’re different, but because you’re trying to become like us! We cannot allow you to infect the Aryan race with your inferior genes.”

    Racial Theory — The overriding problem with this theory is that it is self-contradictory: Jews are not a race. Anyone can become a Jew – and members of every race, creed and color in the world have done so at one time or another.

    Every other hated group is hated for a relatively defined reason. We Jews, however, are hated in paradoxes: Jews are hated for being a lazy and inferior race – but also for dominating the economy and taking over the world. We are hated for stubbornly maintaining our separateness – and, when we do assimilate – for posing a threat to racial purity through intermarriages. We are seen as pacifists and as warmongers; as capitalist exploiters and as revolutionary communists; possessed of a Chosen-People mentality, as well as of an inferiority complex. It seems that we just can’t win.

    Now we know what are NOT the reasons for anti-Semitism.

  10. @ Felix Quigley:
    @ bernard ross:

    Trotskyism after the 1967 War: Against Zionism and Imperialism ! 🙁


    The Jews of Israel: An Oppressor Nation
    🙁

    “‘our revolutionary socialist opposition to Zionism and the Israeli state has nothing in common with anti-Semitism, as the pro-Zionist propagandists maliciously and falsely assert.'”


    “The situation of the Israeli Jews is essentially different from that of Jews in other parts of the world. The struggle against anti-Semitism and the oppression of Jews in other countries is a progressive struggle directed against their oppressors…’ [But] The Israeli Jews form an oppressor nationality of a settler-colonial character vis-a-vis the Arab peoples. … From the point of view of the Leninist concept of the right of nations to self-determination, the key fact is whether the given nationality is an oppressed nationality or an oppressor nationality. ..”

  11. @ Felix Quigley:
    @ bernard ross:

    The Paradox of Antisemitism

    From biblical times to the present day, Jews have been hated. Yet, it is paradoxical that Jewish survival and antisemitism are interrelated. Arguably Jews need enemies to survive. In the past ultra-Orthodox Jewish leaders were profoundly aware of this dynamic. At the beginning of the nineteenth century, for example, Napoleon was battling the Czar for the control of the Pale of Settlement, where millions of Jews were compelled to live in poverty. A victory for Napoleon held the promise of freedom and prosperity, first-class citizenship, freedom of movement, and an end to persecution. A victory for the Czar, however, would keep the Jews enslaved. The great Hasidic leader, Shneur Zalman, stood up in
    the synagogue on Rosh Hashanah to offer a prayer to God asking for help for the leader whose victory would be best for Jewry. He prayed for the Czar to defeat Napoleon. Later he explained:

    Should Napoleon win, the wealth of the Jews will be increased and their position will be raised. At the same time their hearts will be estranged from our Heavenly Father. However, should Czar Alexander win, the Jewish hearts will draw nearer to our Heavenly Father, though the poverty of Israel may become great and his position lower.

    “The brief legal emancipation of Jews during the Napoleonic wars released unparalleled economic, professional, and cultural energies. It was though a high dam had suddenly been breached.” (Amos Elon)

    We see the results of assimilation today. Jews are a “STIFF NECKED PEOPLE” with the pressure from Antisemitism would there be no Jews or Judaism toady and no Israel. Jews would long ago have assimilated into the great majority.

    Historian Cecil Roth noted:“The preservation of the Jew was certainly not casual. He has endured through the power of a certain ideal, based on the recognition of a Higher Power in human affairs. Time after time in his history, moreover, he has been saved from disaster in a manner, which cannot be described excepting as ‘providential.’ The author has deliberately attempted to write this book in a secular spirit; he does not think that his readers can fail to see in it, on every page, a higher immanence”…. “Throughout our history there have been weaker elements who have shirked the sacrifices which Judaism entailed. They have been swallowed, long since, in the great majority; only the more stalwart have carried on the traditions of their ancestors, and can now look back with pride upon their superb heritage. Are we to be numbered with he weak majority, or with the stalwart minority? It is for ourselves to decide.” – Cecil Roth, A History of the Jews

    There is a famous story in which the King Louis the 14th asks Pascal, “Can you prove the existence of God?” Pascal replies, “The Jews, your majesty. The Jews.” Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)

  12. Felix Quigley Said:

    I am not against learning lessons from the Bible, not in the slightest. The Bible is a body of knowledge. But the Bible is not transferrable to the present…that is the problem. We now have a set of situations int he world which are entirely new.

    This is actually an unscientific and an unimaginative point of view which is indicative of the ideology grown in russia which you aggrandize. Science and art are acceptable only is so far as it reinforces a prior belief. Social Realism instructed that art must serve the proletariat. This leads to limited thinking within the box only. Let me elaborate:
    Anti Semitism today indicates the extent of its’ own irrationality. Upon examination Jews can see that the rational, secular, scientific Europeans have been pursuing a clandestine war upon the Jews even after the holocaust and Christianity. The search for rational explanations for anti semitism has encountered a dead-end. Jews searched in order to end it, they thought marxism and the removal of religion is russia could help. They found that was wrong also. There is no rational explanation for the behavior of European antisemitism: it is obsessive, it is rabid, it searches for every possible rationalization for its pathology, it incites the muslims clandestinely and now overtly because it was reigned in from doing its own dirty work. Something is very wrong and it appears to originate and be propagated from europe. In the absence of any apparent rational explanation one must consider to think out of the box, when scientifically inducing theory. Yamits biblical argument presented formerly of the perennial nature of Esau against Israel and Esau incitement of Ishmael may be something to consider scientifically where no other rational and complete explanation has presented itself. The biblical argument appears simplistic and therefore becomes ignored in a “modern scientific world”. However, that simplicity may have been constructed for simple minds.
    Here is a possible scientific rational explanation based on current science that can present the biblical argument with the addition of current knowledge:
    The method of perennial inherited traits is through DNA; it has been proven that DNA can be altered by environment; it has been proven that propensity to disease can be transmitted generationally (perennially) through DNA. It has also been proven that there are chemical/hormonal characteristics related to emotions. Emotions can drive individuals to behave “irrationally”(or without apparent knowledge of it’s causes). There is nothing in DNA science which precludes the possibility that a propensity towards certain specific emotional behavior cannot be transmitted by DNA. Perhaps the bible is a more technical manual than thought, presented in simple language thousands of years ago. It is unscientific to exclude potential theories simply because ones current knowledge capacity is incapable of the comprehension. Capitalism is not a sufficient explanation of anti semitism. What is going on today is like the behavior of a rabid dog pretending at rational behavior. I am not saying the explanation is necessarily correct but that it would be folly to exclude directions pointed out by the bible. After all, the current big bang theory is closer to the bible than the prior theories of the universes origins: science conferred credibility on the bible. It took thousands of years of rationalization before Ptolemaic astronomy was reconsidered. Are you aware of the experiment in quantum physics which indicates that present choices can effect HISTORY? Jump out of the box, Jack.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-lanza/does-the-past-exist-yet-e_b_683103.html

  13. Felix Quigley Said:

    What strikes me as so abysmal about the above Klein correct and valuable analysis

    1.There is nothing hidden. It is all out in the open. The reality that the US and Europe back Antisemitism, and Antisemites.
    2.That the Media above all distorts and hides this reality of the Antisemitism of US and Europe by one strategy above all others…I could call this either silence by the Media like the BBC which is the expert Antisemite on the planet, or by selective reporting, or straight bias.
    3.But that Israeli Jews in their leadership play along with his Antisemitism, as if it were a normal thing
    4.And yet 80 per cent of American people and here I do not mean American Jews are also horrified by this Antisemitism against Israel and against Jewish rights

    I agree with much of these statements except the following:
    Playing along with anti semitism is the “normal” normal thing for jews. It is a 2000 year survival mechanism that kicks in when the signs of danger present themselves. It would be foolish to believe that a 2000 year habit suddenly disappears. I say this of both the survival mechanism and the anti semitism.
    Felix Quigley Said:

    We are in a new period of Antisemitism where capitalism following its own laws has produced a global world, a global capitalist world, a global Antisemitism….. You see Antisemitism changes. It has changed.

    This is where you go wrong. the cahnage is it has become more globally organized which is due to technology. Technology has changed and advanced but anti semitism has not changed. In fact, the prime driver of anti semitism, lies and libels,are now used more extensively and in a more organized manner, by the same actors: The europeans and their descendant and related cultures are the prime drivers of these libels. Outside of those cultures, influenced by christian and its offshoot Islam, there is little millennial anti semitism. This characterizes areas of the globe colonized by christianity or Islam. this holds true for “secular” descendants also e..g communist russia. Christianity and the capitalist system was thrown off but anti semitism survived. Perhaps 2000 years of data was stronger, perhaps it even rearranged their DNA(environmental factors can rearrange DNA). Jews have learned that even giving up Judaism does not obviate anti semeitism and the rich are not exempt under capitalism nor the poor under communism. This leads to your next idea which I shall speak to in my next email.

  14. Felix Quigley Said:

    I am not against learning lessons from the Bible, not in the slightest. The Bible is a body of knowledge.

    The Torah is the Jewish People and the Jewish people are the Torah. Because you are ubable to understand, does not make it mistaken.

  15. Felix Quigley Said:

    There is a fundamental difference here and if Yamit is not exposed on this it is truly the end for Israel</blockquote

    I agree with these sentiments completaly, I want to Yamit82 fully exposed, horns and all. If this were occur, the effect on Israel would be monumental. The rush of women to Israel would solve its population problems for generations.

  16. “I defend Judaism but it is like a rabbit caught in the headlights.”

    A contradiction in terms. A perfect example of Quigley’s anti-Jewish hatred.

    I’d love to see Quigley say this to a few of my Jewish friends in person. He’d be missing his front teeth afterward. Quigley’s head is full of fiddle tunes. An Irish curse.

  17. Of all people to accuse someone of “the lack of a clear perspective.” The world has never been short of non-Jews (goyim) instructing Jews about Jewish scriptures and Jewish nationalism. Quigley is no exception. The only way the Jewish “bible” (a gentile term) is “not transferrable to the present” is when its moral absolutes are rejected outright. Quigley is not remarkable in this regard. Quigley believes that if he hates only “rich Jews” (a form of anti-Semitism in itself), his anti-Jewish hatred can be excused because he supposes this form of anti-Jewish hatred is in defence of the “poor Jew.” He understands nothing about the Jewish propensity toward “love your neighbor” (a moral absolute in Judaism) as a means of survival, that if you condemn the “rich Jew” you condemn also the “poor Jew.” Jews are not fond of such hatred. He understands nothing about Jewish existence, and he understands nothing about Jewish morality. How could he? He condemns the former as being “wicked” and the latter as having no relevance in the present world. As I said in an earlier post (which Ted wisely removed because of its overflowing expletives), Quigley’s ideas on morality exist now under animal dung on the Russian steppes. They belong there. They will never belong in a Jewish Israel. This is perspective.

  18. WARNING TO ALL SOCIALISTS ABOUT A SCURVY GROUP CLAIMING TO BE TROTSKYIST

    This is the group called the http://www.wsws.org

    It is no wonder that this group is quoted by Antisemites on the Irish Indymedia-ie site. It is because the wsws is Antisemitic and has fallen into the Antisemitic Narrative of the “Palestinians”, a word 4international never uses always “Palestinian Arabs”

    I quote from one article dealing with the death of Arafat.

    The wsws write:

    Responsibility for Arafat’s death was immediately and with justification attributed to Israel, which assassinated numerous Palestinian leaders, including Arafat’s closest collaborator, Abu Jihad.

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/11/16/pers-n16.html

    The fact that wsws claims to be Trotskyist and yet lines up with Al Jazeera in this Antisemitism is a warning to all.

    We on 4international condemn the wsws as Antisemites. They follow basically in the Antisemitism of Healy and the Vanessa and Corin Redgraves of the WRP.

    To understand the origins of this Antisemitism you have to go back far and include the significant event of the murder of Leon Trotsky in 1940 by a Stalinist Assasin, Ramon Mercader, who with his Mother was recruited out of the Spanish Civil War.

    Do not even try to use the wsws against true Trotskyism which is us on http://www.4international.me

  19. The talks between the Palestinian Arabs and Israel led by Netanyahu and Livni were forced onto Israel and Netanyahu by Obama and Kerry.

    The essence of these talks is for Israel to give up land to create a Palestinian Arab state.

    In all respects this is an outcome forced onto Israel. Even traitors like Livni! The situation is still created against Israel independent of the thinking of Peace Now people like Livni. She too is a victim.

    But victim of what exactly? Essentially of Antisemitism!

    We are in a new period of Antisemitism where capitalism following its own laws has produced a global world, a global capitalist world, a global Antisemitism.

    Joseph Alexander Norland on Israpundit asked years ago … Why create a 23rd Arab state. Yes that is the truth. The Arabs have wheedled the world into 22 Arab States following Balfour. Jews try to hold on to ONE.

    And that unjust set up is the essence of Antisemitism today. You see Antisemitism changes. It has changed.

    Now in reference to Aaron Klein (http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2013/11/15/kerry-to-israel-international-forces-will-protect-you-presses-netanyahu-to-sign-deal-with-palestinians-before-2016/) below, note these 2 points:

    1. There is not ONE Jewish Prime Minister since 1948 (birth of Israel) who has not caved in to pressure from the US
    2. The reason for that vital observation is twofold…one the nature of Judaism in the modern era and two the terrible power of the US Empire both physical and mental, both aircraft carrier and Media

    And Klein also rooted in US Judaism tied to US Empire even though Klein complains has no answer and provides no answer…it is a crisis of leadership

    BEGIN KLEIN QUOTE
    During his visit here last week, Secretary of State John Kerry pressed Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu to come to an accommodation to create a Palestinian state, with particular emphasis on current talks focusing on the strategic Jordan Valley, according to informed Israeli and Palestinian diplomats.

    The diplomats told KleinOnline that Kerry rejected a proposal by Netanyahu for an interim deal, instead expressing the Obama administration’s goal of a final status agreement to create a state before 2016.

    Netanyahu had proposed a five-year interim agreement in which Israel would give the Palestinian Authority sovereignty over one-third of what is known as Area C, territories in the West Bank currently under Israeli control, the diplomats said. Israel would still retain some security presence in those areas.
    Netanyahu’s proposal further called for an official PA presence in Jerusalem, the diplomats added.

    During the five-year period, the PA would be required to take steps to remove incitement from official educational and media material and fully dismantle the terrorist apparatus in the West Bank.

    The Netanyahu deal also called for the PA to lead a public campaign that would clarify that a final deal would be achieved with Israel as the homeland of the Jewish people, meaning no so-called right of return, the diplomats told KleinOnline.

    According to the Israeli and Palestinian diplomats, both Kerry and PA President Mahmoud Abbas rejected Netanyahu’s proposal.

    Kerry also asked Netanyahu to not put any obstacles in the way of a U.S. plan for the Palestinians and international forces to assume control in the Jordan Valley.

    Last month, KleinOnline broke the story that Kerry was pressing hard for Israel to give up the strategic Jordan Valley in a deal with the Palestinians.”

    The current round of U.S.-brokered talks is attempting to hash out the details of a plan for the valley.

    Kerry’s proposal calls for international forces to maintain security control along with unarmed Palestinian police forces, the PA negotiator said. Israel would retain security posts in some strategic areas of the Jordan Valley, according to the U.S. plan.
    – See more at: http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2013/11/15/kerry-to-israel-international-forces-will-protect-you-presses-netanyahu-to-sign-deal-with-palestinians-before-2016/#sthash.KLxVGmjs.dpuf

    END KLEIN QUOTE HERE

    What strikes me as so abysmal about the above Klein correct and valuable analysis

    1. There is nothing hidden. It is all out in the open. The reality that the US and Europe back Antisemitism, and Antisemites.
    2. That the Media above all distorts and hides this reality of the Antisemitism of US and Europe by one strategy above all others…I could call this either silence by the Media like the BBC which is the expert Antisemite on the planet, or by selective reporting, or straight bias.
    3. But that Israeli Jews in their leadership play along with his Antisemitism, as if it were a normal thing
    4. And yet 80 per cent of American people and here I do not mean American Jews are also horrified by this Antisemitism against Israel and against Jewish rights

    There is the basis here for a massive movement to defeat this Antisemitism but it needs a leadership which does not originate in Judaism. I defend Judaism but it is like a rabbit caught in the headlights.

    The answer is Marxism, Leninism, Trotskyism, and the inspiration is actually the 1917 Revolution, because Lenin was rock hard and did not flinch.

    Furthermore the Bolsheviks saved the Jewish people from Holocaust in 1917 (Klein through sheer ignorance) lies about this history on this very point, not an insignificant thing in Jewish history actually!