‘Difficult decisions will have to be made’ if numbers go up, top official says, while Israel announces no teachers will be allowed in schools without proof of COVID vaccination or negative test
Unvaccinated Israelis are putting strain on hospitals, Nachman Ash, the Health Ministry’ coronavirus director-general said Thursday, as official figures showed that the 17 percent of eligible Israelis who have not received the vaccine account for 60 percent of coronavirus deaths in the past two weeks.
“Illness today is mainly among the unvaccinated, [and] they are straining the hospitals,” Ash said. The strain is mainly felt by medical workers, he said – specifically, those working in emergency wards.
“We are still finding room for everyone, but if the numbers go up, difficult decisions will have to made, and we don’t want to get to that point,” Ash stated.
He noted in particular the number of ECMO machines – which replace the function of the heart and lungs in the most serious coronavirus cases – that are in use, warning that “it’s very close to the limit of our capability.” Ash said the Health Ministry would advise the coronavirus cabinet to limit attendance at large, crowded events, particularly sporting events, later on Thursday.
On Thursday, the number of those hospitalized in serious condition remained stable with 723 people, including 197 on ventilators and 253 in critical condition, the Health Ministry said. There were 69,076 active cases on Wednesday. Since the outbreak of the pandemic, 7,592 people have died of the coronavirus in Israel.
Health Ministry figures show that the 17 percent of eligible Israelis who are unvaccinated constitute 65 percent of active serious cases, 70 percent of new serious cases, and 63 percent of deaths this week. Among those under 60 years old, the unvaccinated account for 85 percent of serious cases.
Thirty-nine COVID patients in Israel were connected to ECMO machines as of Wednesday. Most of the people attached to these machines are not elderly and suffering from a plethora of background illnesses – 29 of the 39 are between the ages of 40 and 60. Thirty-three are unvaccinated, with only four patients fully vaccinated.
- Young, unvaccinated COVID patients overburden Israel’s lifesaving ECMO machines
- This life-saving COVID drug has arrived in Israel. Who will get it first?
- Israel’s anti-vaxxers have completely lost it
Unvaccinated teachers barred from schools
Also Thursday, the Education Ministry instructed all directors and principals of educational institutions to refuse entry to allow teaching staff who do not present proof of immunity or a negative test. The letter sent to principals further said that any employees unwilling to cooperate are to be considered absent and therefore not get paid. Furthermore, they are not to be permitted to teach classes remotely.
Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said Wednesday that the first days of October are expected to be “complicated” for the school system with the coronavirus still spreading, but he stressed that the government wants to keep schools open, so the economy can function and to prevent “raising a generation of zombies here.”
Meanwhile, the Health Ministry has announced that a coronavirus drug for patients in mild to moderate condition who are at high risk of deteriorating will now be provided through health maintenance organizations and not just in hospitals and nursing homes. HMOs will provide Regeneron Pharmaceuticals’ REGEN-COV drug and each will set the criteria determining which patients are eligible to receive it. The Health Ministry has not yet set official protocol for using the drug, and the policy currently varies from hospital to hospital.
This is a very important document which is very comprehensive on all things Covid. From the scientific development, to the pathophysiology(disease process) to the treatment to the conspiracy and some possible motivations or yet discovered concerns. But of everything, the most important part of this document is the 35pages of cited documents complete with hyperlinks. The citations are all scientific or popular sites that no one could scoff at easily, except for the 2 wiki citations. It is a very useful tool which can be of use, regardless of your beliefs on the malignant or beneficial value of the vaccines. Some sections of the text include a great deal of scientific/medical discussion on the disease and treatments, but if you are not interested in these, you can skip them – there is a lot more discussed than this, again with linked sources for each of us to evaluate with our own judgement. I urge everyone to participate in such evaluations for their own betterment and the safety of their loved ones, as many lies are managed as truths by those who should have no motive to ply their opinions with obvious distortions and mistruths. Regardless of your politics, your occupation or your religion, a global propaganda with the enforcement of state borne authoritarianism has overtaken many democracies of the world in order to prove the vaccines are safe and effective and enforce their administration. We should each consider how to judge the reality behind such propaganda and state mandates using logic and information. Such are my thoughts, in any case.
Here is the link:
https://www.docdroid.net/kZZXcGS/covid-19-the-spartacus-letter-pdf#page=15
I would download it before it is removed.
Here is a list of topics covered in great depth and detail:
COVID-19 Pathophysiology and Treatments
COVID-19 Transmission
COVID-19 Vaccine Dangers
COVID-19 Criminal Conspiracy
COVID-19 Vaccine Development and Links to Transhumanism
Anyone who believes that VAERS is over-reporting the actual adverse cases, should listen to the whistleblowers coming forward. Here is just one, but there are numerous such accounts by nurses and hospital staff:
https://thehighwire.com/videos/these-patients-deserve-to-be-heard-vaers-whistleblower/
DR. ZELENKO – FORGET CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS THERE WILL BE TRIBUNALS, WHAT IF CURES ALREADY EXIST?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/8HWecIWvHBf5/
https://img.mewe.com/api/v2/photo/cv1rUJddVLFsqde00djL4bN4giTYv3Ogj9V1s4ntlWNhToGdu-v_QkD2yFc/800×800/img?static=0
Military Doctor Whistleblower Grounding All Vaccinated Pilots in Her Command and calls for heart screening for damage from the Spike….
Read the entire affidavid!!
https://cdn.locals.com/documents/640135/640135_7hp4is8t5wsbitj.pdf
Or watch the interview with Dr. Gold(10min)
https://rumble.com/vmx1on-breaking-top-medical-official-in-us-army-provides-affidavid-re-covid-19-vac.html
@peloni
@mirib
The most amazing thing to me is that the discovery of how to get the immune system to let the mRNA into human cells was treated as a one-step isolated process and not something that can have a domino or even a butterfly effect on the immune system and on the rest of the organism!
The discovery itself may be worth a Nobel but the application of the discovery should have been very thoroughly tested on lab cultures and on animals.
Devastating testimony from Israeli Cardiologist. Everyone should watch this 2min video.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1441366623764418563
@Reader
Thank you for sharing this. Whenever a Pathologist speaks, you should always listen, as they are usually the smartest people in any room they enter.
These warnings are in line with what Dr. Vander Bosshe, a vaccine researcher who worked for Pharma, warned us about just after the vaccine rollout. The dangers were immediately clear to him, and he offered to discuss his concerns with any who would listen, unfortunately, few did. He wrote a paper in March, and produced a series of videos in April for which he was badly attacked. This is related to Dr. Malone’s entry into this conversation when, last January, he saw some alarming issues arise and decided to do what all medical and research experts should do when they see an elevated risk, he spoke up – quietly at first, as he was a govt insider he expected to have a better response arguing from within the hive than without. Later, he joined the public call to consider the alarming details of Vander Boshe, many which have already come true, including premature vaccine failures, exploding vaccine-induced mutations that would create more and more resistant variants, among others issues. Especially given the alarming increases in the VAERS system.
@Reader- That’s the point! To ablate your immune system! To kill you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=125Aj7kSrrY. MSNBC reports that two of its panel of interviewers for an interview with Vice President Harris tested positive for COVID19 moments before the interview! And this even though they had been “vaccined up to the wazoo” like al MSNBC personnel. Presumably “breakthrough” cases, the MSNBC announcer said. They did not participate in the interview, being required to leave the room moments before it began. VP Harris was not endangered. As an added precaution, she was interviewed by remote camera while in a different room.
@Adam
The quotes are from the NYT article form Aug 29, 2020. The link was just under the quoted selections. Here it is again for convenience.
https://cnas.ucr.edu/media/2020/08/29/your-coronavirus-test-positive-maybe-it-shouldnt-be
The actual NYT site is here but it is beyond a paywall:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html
Yes, if they have access to the relevant info, as I noted in the last comment.
No, if they don’t have access to the relevant info.
If the vaccine card is lost, no one can enter it. Also, the family member has to know about the system and how to access it. Though this is more well known now, it is not well known by the clinical staff in the hospital, another finding of the Harvard study and something attested by many clinicians themselves.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/fbWGA1CEMK2W/
Forward to ~1hr 15 min – very important.
Peloni, is it possible for relatives of the deceased after being inoculated, or an ill person who is still alive after becoming sick following an inoculation, to report this event to VAERS without the involvement of a healthcare worker?
Could you please give me a “yes” or “no” answer?
ISRAELI Testimonies of kill shot INJURIES…because you won’t find this in your media. https://www.vaxtestimonies.org/en/
“Delta variant” is code name for vaxxine injuries.
https://rumble.com/vm936v-whistleblower-nurse-destroys-delta-narrative-vaccinated-patients-fill-hospt.html
@Adam
I would agree that we will never know the harms associated with the vaccines. It is, however, due to the fact that we were never to allowed to know the harms associated with the vaccines. They knew full well that close monitoring should have been pursued, but instead left it to a voluntary system where specific fields were required for the submission of a case, such as the vaccine card issued to each individual, and without which, no entry is possible. So if a person dies, unless some family member holds the card or knows where it is, and knows how to enter the info, the death will not be recorded. Additionally, the entries take over half an hour per entry and as a patient’s condition changes, ie from injection site swelling to heart palpitations to death, the process must be redone each time to capture the resulting harm. All this by over-stretched healthcare workers in the middle of an outbreak and no time allowance for the data submissions. To balance the reasonable expectation that this would affect the reporting, we have numerous members of the medical establishment testifying that the reporting is actually being curtailed, which fits very well with the knowledge of the state directed censorship on this very topic. Additionally, we have the testimony of Dr. Rose and Dr. Malone who have each confirmed that the CDC has a mounting backlog of reports that have not yet been processed. This backlog will both cause an under-reporting in real time, and a delayed over-reporting in the future.
There was a study in Harvard some years ago which assessed VAERS to determine how many harms were actually captured by the system. They found between 10X and 100X under-reporting. This estimate is, however, not the basis of this current assessment. You can read his methods and agree or not, but I very seriously doubt the speculation that there are fewer issues than are reported. But, as I have noted in the past, the actual number is irrelevant to come to the assessment you concluded.
All the while, the CDC still refuses to accept that a single death is related to the vaccines, not even those who go into shock following the injection, which is patently duplicitous. Even as they will not fund the autopsies for a single post vaccine case and alarming results are being reported by various groups funding such research around the world, albeit in few numbers, but with serious findings. I don’t suggest that we should accept these findings at face value, but then we don’t have to, as the dead listed in VAERS alone mounts higher each week, with no investigation to ask or answer the obvious question of: “Why are these people dying so closely to being vaccinated since they have assessed that it was not due to the vaccination.”
These matters bear close investigation and all we get are statements that these are unrelated matters, as if this statement should be accepted and the deaths ignored. If they died for other reasons, why are we not doing autopsies to answer the public questioning of their association to the vaccine program.
Peloni, I think it is very unlikely that there are 100 or more times people who die and/or become seriously ill from the COVID shots than are reported to VAERS, even though a published and peer-reviewed scientist believes this to be the case. It that were true, then nearly everyhospital in all the states of the Union would be overwhelmed with patients, and the morgues and funeral homes would be overwhelmed with bodies, leading to long delays in furnerals and interments. And that would be very difficult to keep out of the mainstream media–which has reported no such thing.
On the other hand, nearly all of the well-informed physicians and medical researchers believe that the number of adverse reactions and deaths reported to VAERS iis much less than the actual number. And some physicians and nurses who work in hospitals do report an influx of patients with symptoms that could be bad reactions to the CV2 vaccines. We may never know how many people are killed by the vaccines or suffer serious illness from them. But there is no question that the Cv-2 vaccines are more deangerous than any of the other vaccines now in general use, and that their effectiveness declines more quickly than that of any other vaccine in general use.
Thanks, Peloni, for the wealth of new information that you have given us in the whole series of new posts in response to my questions.
I am still picky enough to ask two more questions: what is the date of the NYT article that you quote concerning the accuracy of the PCR tests: What is the date of this article that you have located and quote from? And where can I find it on the web? (with link). Thanks again for being willing to field so many of my questions.
More later on some of the new information that you have given us. Best wishes, Adam
its all fake news lies and propaganda no one should ever trust what the media has to say they are pure evil laiers
Nachman Ash is lying. Still pressuring more people to take the clot shot. Natural,immunity is enough unless you have co- morbidities, then take what dr. Zelenko said. Remember Modi of India sent millions of Ivermectin pills to Israel, but Netanyahu WITHHELD it from you!
No, @Chanah, the first to fall are the ones who took the bioweapon clot shot. Then the perpetrators- the heads of govt and pharma giants that manufactured the poison shots, the medical establishment killers, the health “ ministriers”, then the ones who administered the kill shots, all responsible- just following orders people, exactly what they said in Germany. Just following orders.
Someone needs to save this article to be used in a year or so from now, in a study of the many illnesses among the vaxxed, and the drain on the health system as they all clamor for services for their auto-immune diseases. Who will be the last ones standing, and who will have mud on their faces? Those who sling mud first will be the first to fall.
A real possibility:
While Israelis are being injected with a poison bioweapon, the Arab population is avoiding taking the poison. Eventually, the Israelis will realize they have been played big time when they discover they have been sterilized by the Pfizer shot. And that’s when the Arabs will take over Israel without a single shot because of the Pfizer shot.
@ stevenl. They will! Reiner Fulmich has already started it.
@Stevenl. They will! It’s in the works. Reiner Fuelmich.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/aawp4Jqzawh2/. ISRAEL TV DROPS THE BOMBSHELL – It’s not a vaxxine. It’s bs.
Those who hid Anne Frank from the Nazis were breaking the law. Those who took her to the concentration camp were upholding the law. Don’t confuse the law with morality
@peloni
I think there is a reason that these “vaccines are hoarded” by these countries.
These countries (Israel maybe not so much) have one very important thing in common – a large and growing proportion of old(er) people (“the useless eaters”) who are marked for death from the vaccines under the guise of protecting the “vulnerable” from the “dangerous virus”.
This is why (one of the main reasons) the PTB are blindly(?) and unprecedentedly pushing it on people despite the rapidly mounting evidence of the vaccines’ uselessness and danger to health and life.
@peloni
It is possible that there was more than one real reason for the rejection, and one of them was the difference in how severe illness is defined by each country which cannot be dismissed as unimportant.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221475002100161X?via%3Dihub
This article has undergone peer review and has been published in the journal Toxicology Reports, a well respected medical journal, whatever that means in 2021. I have to admit that I was shocked that this was able to be published. The findings are completely at odds with Dr. Malone’s opinion on the subject of the vaccines as I describe below. Malone is in discussion with the author over his findings, so I suspect we will hear something more at some point relating to this article which takes about 2 1/2 hrs to read, if you don’t idle(really deep dive) but well worth the time. We need to assess the reality of what has occurred with some level of confidence, so it is good that we have differing views on a topic while the parties can communicate and discuss differences on facts, math and science. It’s almost like 2019 again.
Steve Kirsch had estimated the risk-benefit of the vaccine was at one life saved for every two deaths from the vaccine as a best case scenario if no unvaccinated elderly died in the past four months, ie the reality would be worse than 1 for 2, for what it’s worth, as a point of comparison. Curious what Dr. Rose makes of this calculation – Rose is a data analyst who has specifically taken a deep dive into the VAERS data and has an article on her findings that will be published in the coming weeks/months/years who knows with the non-publishing going on.
@Reader
For what it’s worth, what I read and heard during the panel hearing, which has now been removed from YouTube though it’s probably still on Rumble somewhere, was more related to the myocarditis issue. The article below is more what I believe was the real reason while the definition was not insignificant, myocarditis was what was cited last week and what stood out in the panel discussion and interviews, I believe. Did anyone else watch it? Curious if anyone else thought the definition was the basis of their decision.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-advisory-group-rejects-covid-boosters-limits-high-risk-groups-rcna2074
@Adam
By the way, Malone is not a skeptic regarding the vaccines, not at all. He believes the vaccines should be offered to the high-risk patients with full disclosure of the many harms associated with them and not forced or coerced on them. He believes the risks are real and should be pursued. He also believes that the vaccines should not be horded by nations such as the US, UK, Israel and Europe for repeated vaccinations while third world nations have limited or no access to them due to supply limitations. He describes his views as the middle ground. He has lost any confidence that the govt can conduct a competent drug trial at this point – a rough reiteration of his words – as he has acknowledged the EUA testing was “garbage” from which you can not conclude anything. He believes the vaccines are associated with serious risks but that the benefits from the vaccines should be preserved for the elderly/overweight/diseased because at some point they will cease to be useful if we use them for everyone, and everyone other than these groups will have no serious risk with facing the disease. His two main considerations are risk management paired with bio-ethics and global needs for the vaccines. So, not a skeptic at all. But he does recognize the harms of withholding treatment, adverse events, the crap studies and the lack of any informed consent being corrupted by the govts activities. He doesn’t believe Zelenko’s views of the world being pursued by a bunch of globalists bent on genocide, but rather, what he describes as being a corrupted global class that has taken advantage of serious failings within the US govt and medical foundations, whose lead the world’s medical bodies all follow, amid either a bio-weapon attack or accidental release. It will likely upset some to hear this, but these are a fair interpretation of Malone’s views in a nutshell, I believe.
McCullough has been less elucidating and more evolving over the past year on the vaccines. He believes the vaccines are associated with very serious risks and he and his patients have taken the vaccines, but he has seen the injuries on his own patients and would not advise them to a patient, but explain the possible benefits and risks. He has stated clearly if a patient wanted the vaccine after understanding the risks, he would absolutely administer it. He tries to stay away from discussions such as motivation, but he has acknowledged that it would be pretty difficult to believe that there is not at minimum a very serious financial motivating factor behind the actions taken to withhold treatment and ignore the safety issues. He has views closer to Zelenko than Malone does, but he tries to avoid the motivation topic, as I said. He believes the govt has exercised gross incompetence in every action it has undertaken since the existence of the virus was revealed and that they are now bent on destroying American civil rights. There is probably a lot I could add to this, but this mostly covers it, or partially at least.
The two of them are strong allies, but like the US and England in WWII, they have very different backgrounds and have each been brought to this fight in very different ways, both of which have, I believe, led them to the very distinctive views they each hold. Also, I wouldn’t describe either of them skeptics, as the term suggests their views are not factually based, and they are each completely motivated by facts, I believe. For what it’s worth.
https://cnas.ucr.edu/media/2020/08/29/your-coronavirus-test-positive-maybe-it-shouldnt-be
The citation for the 94% report was in my reading earlier today or yesterday, which cited a 6% accuracy rate, but I really can’t locate the source, sorry. I will get you a source for McCullough and Malone in the next day or so, but since they are videos, it is a bit more involved. McCullough mentions it in almost all of his video chats, as I recalled, but I just watched a shorter one and he did not mention it there. Give me a day or two and I’ll get the citation for you.
The CDC did note in the source I provided below that “(Sequencing is not feasible with higher Ct values)” for Ct over 28. This was based on the research article I sourced below which stated “infectivity … is significantly reduced when RT-PCR Ct values are > 24. For every 1-unit increase in Ct, the odds ratio for infectivity decreased by 32%.” So if it is at 100% at 24Ct, by 28Ct it is 0. On April 29, the CDC ordered that vaccinated people be tested at 28Ct while keeping unvaccinated at 40. In any case, this is the best I can offer you til I locate the video from McCullough or Malone. Hope it helps.
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@Adam
I don’t think your being picky, but I hope you didn’t think I was trying to be clever either. I didn’t have access to the NYT article(paywall), so I used the Brownstone and Redstate, both perfectly legitimate publications to cite from the NYT, but I can appreciate your persistence for the actual source. I have found a copy of the NYT article, though:
“Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be”
The usual diagnostic tests may simply be too sensitive and too slow to contain the spread of the virus.
@adamdalgliesh
This COVID thing is the greatest LONG CON in the history of humanity. Whoever pulled it off must be incredibly proud of himself (or themselves)!:
Peloni, the only specific source that you site for 90 per cent is Brownstone, which is a financial services site, not a medical site. It cites an article in the New York Times as its source, but it does not provide any link to the article andThe Brownstone article itself is dated does not quote it. It does not say when the article appeared in the Times, who wrote it, etc. The Brownstone article itself says it was published in August 2020, which makes it a bit “dated.” There is a lot more recent research into COVID19.
As for the “90 to 94%” inaccurate figure for PCR tests, you cite a number of well-known ’skeptical” physicians such as Dr. Malone and Dr. McCullough as your sources. But you don’t cite any specific interview or article by any of these physicians and/or scientists in which this percentage range is given for PCR inaccuracy. Please give us some specific interviews or articles by these very knowledgeable ladies and gentlemen, with links, in which this percentage range for inaccuracy is given.
Sorry for being so picky. But I am a scholar by training, although certainly not a medical or other natural scientist, and I am accustomed to searching for the original source for any statement that is less “common knowledge than, say, “the earth is round,” or “the Nile runs through Egypt,” or “the Mississippi runs through the United States.” Then I examine the credentials and background of this original source to determine if I think he/she is credible. Forgive me for being so picky and demanding. But that is the scholar and researcher in me.
Many victims from Western Gvts (+ MSM) blocking, disparaging the use of HCQ, Ivermectin in combination with few other components!
These Gvts (+MSM) should face a Nuremberg type of commission for crimes committed against humanity.
@Adam
This would be a red herring for the future(not the past) if they weren’t using, it and I wish that it weren’t still a point of relavence. Unfortunately, it is relavent because they are still using it exclusively til Dec. 31, even though they disqualified its use in July following Dr. Cahill’s(you probably don’t know her but she is trying to mount a revolution in Britain with the PM, I’m not holding my breath, though) move against the further use of PCR which is why, overnight, the WHO dropped their support of PCR. I will have to explain this later, it is a bit involved.
So your 3 questions would be answered:
1. Yes it is still being used everywhere because everyone is following CDC, but if you find this is wrong, let me know. I am very confident you won’t. The PCR is a large part of the problem, but only a large part.
https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html
2. Here are the testing templates that will be replacing PCR on Jan 1.
https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-emergency-use-authorizations-medical-devices/in-vitro-diagnostics-euas?ACSTrackingID=USCDC_2146-DM61940&ACSTrackingLabel=Lab%20Alert%3A%20Changes%20to%20CDC%20RT-PCR%20for%20SARS-CoV-2%20Testing&deliveryName=USCDC_2146-DM61940
3. As best I can deduce from the above page, there are a variety of tests types that are being considered and a choice will be made between testing candidates or perhaps there will be many choices chosen.
But when they change the testing method, nothing will change regarding what has been done over the past two years with the testing. This is important because everything from R0 to the quickness of spread to the rate of deaths and many other factors are all based upon the results of this crap test that will have been used for nearly 2yrs and forms the foundation of everything, everything, we know about Covid. Hence, everything I noted will still color everything we think we know about Covid. And we can then set about learning the many pitfalls of the new test/tests that will tell us if we are ill or not.
We should all recognize that the problem with PCR was not really the PCR. It was always about the way PCR was used, not the test, or not exclusively the test. There are many such tests for a variety of diseases. Unreliable testing can still be useful if employed to assist in forming a clinical judgement rather than replacing it. But illness is different than a positive test. All tests have false positives at some known variability based upon the testing sensitivity/specificity chosen for the test. Also, it is a well known fact that 1 out of every 20 tests run results in erred results, which is why we will often choose to retest a value that is alarmingly inconsistent with other known facts – for example, if blood markers for kidney function is alarmingly out of normal range, and the person is perfectly normal and seems unaffected, this would be an inconsistent finding and a re-test would be ordered. You wouldn’t set the poor patient up with a dialysis appointment because they had high lab values alone. Hope my point here is clear.
Peloni, you have not addressed two of questions that I think are important.
Is the PCR test still being used in Israel, the USA, Britain and elsewhere? If its use has been discontinued, what is the new test that is being used to diagnose cv2? And is this new test, if it is being used, accurate? (three questions, I guess).
If the use of the PCR test has been discontinued because the WHO and the CDC no longer recommend it, and a better test is now being used, then I think you willagree that talking about its ineffectiveness has become a red herring.
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Saving the best for last. If you have difficulty understanding what I have written or what is described in the research cited above, you can read this well documenting review on Redstate, written for mom and dad to understand and discuss across the table:
https://redstate.com/michael_thau/2020/09/03/ny-times-up-to-90-of-people-who-tested-positive-for-c19-not-infected-truth-a-whole-lot-worse-pt-3-n253332
In addition to this, PCR will only test for the presence of a specific piece of the virus. PCR does not test to see if virus is intact and capable of causing an infection. If you inhale a piece of dead/non-infectious virus, you will test positive at high Ct, as it can detect a single virus at high thresholds, alive or dead – it is why Mullis opposed its use.
CDC uses Ct 40 for unvaccinated and Ct 28 for vaccinated. The data collected is all crap, as I have been saying for some time, but PCR is just part of the problem which ignores the discrepancy between vaccinated and unvaccinated on a host of issues including health status and socioeconomic , screening versus disease confirmation and the question of accuracy among other issues. I’ll explain this more Later.
Do let me know if you have trouble following any of this on the PCR failings on high Ct.
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@Adam
Lots of sources. If you watch any interview with McCullough, Malone or the physicians opposing the jabs, you will hear them discuss this, as they ALWAYS do, but this is less supportive than I can supply. The oversensitivity of 90% or 94% false positives is not a controvesial statement, but well accepted and discussed thru much of the pandemic. Kary Mullis(inventor of PCR) opposed PCR ever being used to diagnose disease and fought with Fauci specifically about this overly sensitive aspect of PCR. He noted if you use it over 20(I believe this is the correct number but you can check), it would be too sensitive – I don’t have the video citation on this but you can probably find it easily enough by searching the web.
The oversensitivity of PCR was proven last fall, and was the cause for which CDC issued the following correction in the April changes to their guidance, but for vaccinated people only:
“For cases with a known RT-PCR cycle threshold (Ct) value, submit only specimens with Ct value ?28 to CDC for sequencing. (Sequencing is not feasible with higher Ct values.)[this parenthetic statement is from CDC, not me]”. They did this due to the following research below which showed that no viral growth could be found following >24(see research in next paragraph). CDC has since deleted this statement and the link to the research which caused them to write it. Link for deleted CDC changes is below, and the research which generated it is in next paragraph.
https://t.co/Bpk8ZgiGg9?amp=1
Note that Ct=Cycle Threshold
Here is the research paper cited by CDC(link now deleted), but many may prefer the other sources:
“These results demonstrate that infectivity (as defined by growth in cell culture) is significantly reduced when RT-PCR Ct values are > 24. For every 1-unit increase in Ct, the odds ratio for infectivity decreased by 32%. The high specificity of Ct and [symptoms to onset] suggests that Ct values > 24, along with duration of symptoms > 8 days, may be used in combination to determine duration of infectivity in patients[because there are signs of illness that PCR could support, but not on its own, ie not via screening]. Positive cell-culture results in our study were most likely between days 1 and 5. This finding is consistent with existing literature [1, 2].” **If it doesn’t grow in cell culture, it means it is not infective, ie false positive.**
“The sensitivity levels of the PCR tests have been set too high. The New York Times reports that up to 90% of people testing “positive” carried barely any virus.”
https://www.brownstoneresearch.com/bleeding-edge/up-to-90-of-pcr-tests-for-covid-19-may-be-false-positives/
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While we are trying to figure out who is more correct, another Holocaust is carried out and it is being perpetrated by the Jews themselves this time.
I don’t know what else to call it.
Peloni, if both the CDC and the WHO have recommended against using th PCR test as a screening test for cover, what screening test is being used in Israel, the United States and elsewhere is this non-PCR test(s) more accurate. Are PCR tests still being widely used to screen for covid in Israel and elsewhere? Do the figures about the number and categories of covid serious cases and deaths released by the israeli health ministry come from PCR tests, or some other more accurate tests? This is an important matter that needs to be clarified.
Peloni, I find it hard to believe that 90 per cent of PCR tests for Covid are false positives. What is your source for this statement?
Obviously, if these numbers are correct, then we know absolutely nothing about the preveence of the disease, the number of cases, the number of both “vaccinated” and ‘unvaccinated” people suffering from it, etc. Is it really positible that the medical authorities are relying on a completely unreliable, meaningless test to determine who has Covid? If true, extremely shocking.
But again, what is your source for this information?
**An additional note to add to my ealier comment on the folly of PCR being used as screening. The 90% false positives is the reason that the CDC and WHO each have declared that PCR should never be used as a screening tool, even as many have choosen to do so. Employing the PCR as a screening tool purposefully acts to inflate false positives and places the victims of this false diagnoses in very great dangers of contracting Covid or at minimum receiving non-treatment for their actual disease and the deadly complications of Remdisivir which ~30% of people receiving it in the US do not survive the treatment, and the treatment results in a statistical certainty of both zero benefit in survival as well as extending hospital recovery, for those who do recover.
Do they really believe we are this stupid? The purpose is to control the masses! They want to reduce world population… Bill Gates said he planned to do it with vaccines… Apparently he was right! https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaers-cdc-covid-deaths-vaccine-injuries/
i dont believe a word what you writing its all lies you have no evidence what so ever its the other way around vaccine have not worked any were in the world
So, the defeating untold truth in this scenario is that among “the unvaccinated” lies an untold, ie undocumented, number of unfortunate souls who were vaccinated and were tested within two weeks following the inoculation, and were diagnosed with a positive PCR. We should note that the vaccines create a massive window of immune suppression after the inoculation. We know this because the spike stimulates such a strong immune response, which focuses much of its resources on the inoculation of spike producing factories which are swimming around the body. This limits the immune system’s ability to face off any potential infections from bacteria, fungi or viruses. It also places a great strain on the body’s ability to maintain a balance of health if there is other diseases present(whether they are diagnosed or not). Hence, the injection destabilizes established diseases and reduces the body’s ability to fight of infections. This is why so many adverse effects occurred in the first 48hrs post infection. Yet they inexplicably count these patients who have been vaccinated as being “the unvaccinated” if they exhibit health issues and are diagnosed with a positive PCR within the first 2wks.
I wrote “diagnosed with a positive PCR” specifically to indicate that they are not necessarily SARS-Cov2 positive, only PCR positive – ie, they could have flue, heart disease(diagnosed or not), cancer(diagnosed or not), other disease(diagnosed or not) or they could be completely healthy with a false positive PCR. The qualifier of “Covid patients” is based on a documented and accepted, though still employed, badly broken testing regimen of the PCR screening tool. And the diagnosis is a death sentence by itself. A positive PCR means the patient will not be treated, except with steroids(which could be terribly devastating if their is an infectious disease or heart disease, etc) and the toxic Remdisiver per CDC guidance +/- monoclonal antibodies. A positive PCR also places any false positive patient in the Covid wards to be exposed to the virus on top of anything they are otherwise fighting, heart disease, cancer, infection…
People are dying because of a lack of treatment. Treatment for Covid and treatment for anything that might have caused them to present as ill when they were falsely diagnosed with the lethal positive PCR regimen.
To treat the ill you must first correctly diagnose the ailment and then you must correctly treat the ailment. Neither of these parameters are being met or pursued. It is criminal neglect, but it is accepted policy.
The reason the unvaccinated are overly present in this group is that the unvaccinated are tested with the PCR as if it were useful as a screening tool to gain access to society or the hospital. The unvaccinated are overwhelmingly the majority of tested subjects. They are overwhelmingly not being cared for on the basis of anything but the false positive PCR(90% of screening PCR is false positive). When they are hospitalized, they will suffer and linger and overwhelm the hospitals. This would happen in any time if you were to take a patient into the hospital where they will develop diseases associated with hospitalization – some are mental and some are very serious such as Hospital Associated Pneumonia(yes this is a very real disease with hospital, ie resistant, infections).
So if the writer of this article were interested in freeing up some beds and not pursuing political propaganda, they should press for proper testing, proper treatment and vaccinating with less vigorous vaccines. I know, any one of these factors is too much to expect, but all are necessary.